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		<title>By: locomotivebreath1901</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1012</link>
		<dc:creator>locomotivebreath1901</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we at least get dinner &#38; a movie before being shagged so hard (again)???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we at least get dinner &amp; a movie before being shagged so hard (again)???</p>
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		<title>By: jackmeijer</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1011</link>
		<dc:creator>jackmeijer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment sounds like the ultimate truth.  Are we even going to survive to see our government's lavish website.  may be they should do something like this http://www.datopia.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment sounds like the ultimate truth.  Are we even going to survive to see our government&#8217;s lavish website.  may be they should do something like this <a href="http://www.datopia.com/">http://www.datopia.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: jackmeijer</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1010</link>
		<dc:creator>jackmeijer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though a short comment.  I found your comment most apt to the post.  Your suggestion should sort of some problems in the government.  check this one another government leak... seems like http://www.datopia.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though a short comment.  I found your comment most apt to the post.  Your suggestion should sort of some problems in the government.  check this one another government leak&#8230; seems like <a href="http://www.datopia.com/">http://www.datopia.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: aposematic</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1009</link>
		<dc:creator>aposematic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smaetronix must be a union shop!</description>
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		<title>By: drealoth</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>drealoth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$18 million over five years is $3.6 million per year, which for web design work at that level I think that is about standard. That is not to say that they should be spending $18 million on a website, but I don't think that the $18 million for what would probably prove to be a very high traffic website is outrageous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$18 million over five years is $3.6 million per year, which for web design work at that level I think that is about standard. That is not to say that they should be spending $18 million on a website, but I don&#8217;t think that the $18 million for what would probably prove to be a very high traffic website is outrageous.</p>
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		<title>By: TNJim</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1007</link>
		<dc:creator>TNJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We report, they decide.</description>
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		<title>By: rcov092</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>rcov092</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you all are fooled by the one.  You are pissed about 1$18.0 for a website.  (I will do it for 250K) and missing the whole point.  Hell with such a major project, probably will not be able to go live until... say 2013.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you all are fooled by the one.  You are pissed about 1$18.0 for a website.  (I will do it for 250K) and missing the whole point.  Hell with such a major project, probably will not be able to go live until&#8230; say 2013.</p>
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		<title>By: antisocial</title>
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		<dc:creator>antisocial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>including DR fail over/ licenses/Infrastructure/maintenance and still be a millionaire after taxes......

That is another example why government can not manage anything without running into losses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>including DR fail over/ licenses/Infrastructure/maintenance and still be a millionaire after taxes&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>That is another example why government can not manage anything without running into losses.</p>
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		<title>By: bobojake</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>bobojake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take it out of obama Whitehouse expense budget.</description>
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		<title>By: JLenardDetroit</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>JLenardDetroit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
from &lt;a href="http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/07/08/the-best-laid-plans-of-mice-and-t-boone-pickens/#comment-701"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;
...General Motors now toying with the idea of becoming GREEN MOTORS, almost LITERALLY…. They are kicking about the idea of changing their logo from the Blue background to a Green background…. Yep, makes perfect sense - fits its Liberal Government Masters’ demands/desires and WA$TE$ tons more on an un-necessary change coming out of Bankruptcy.
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from <a href="http://www.redstate.com/vladimir/2009/07/08/the-best-laid-plans-of-mice-and-t-boone-pickens/#comment-701">here</a><br />
&#8230;General Motors now toying with the idea of becoming GREEN MOTORS, almost LITERALLY…. They are kicking about the idea of changing their logo from the Blue background to a Green background…. Yep, makes perfect sense - fits its Liberal Government Masters’ demands/desires and WA$TE$ tons more on an un-necessary change coming out of Bankruptcy.
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		<title>By: ddstrain</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1002</link>
		<dc:creator>ddstrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it drives me absolutely insane seeing what we are paying for.  I'm in Virginia and I spent a couple hours looking over the "stimulus" projects in Virginia.  I'd say most is completely unnecessary spending.

For example the Army art collection apparently needs some art conservation services.  Don't we already employ a battalion's worth (or more) or art conservation types at the National Portrait, Sackler and Freer Gallerieas and the rest of the Smithsonian organization.  Why do we need to spend money on outside servics when we already have the people employed.

Hell, we're paying basically $250,000 per mile to repave and do other "safety" work on a 4 mile stretch of road that will "employ" an estimated 12 people for what 2 weeks, month tops?  That sure sounds like long term stimulus there.

Also, I see all kinds of facilities looking to buy trucks.  WHY?!?!?!  This government has hundreds of "surplus" vehicles out there that they can just move.  I went to govliquidation.com and founds dozens and dozens of military vehicles that would fit the bill....on sale for $150 each.  Sure they need work, but why spend $15,000-$30,000 on a new truck when we can transfer a truck FREE and put $5,000 into it to get it up and running (at a local auto repair shop that employs mechanics and contributes to the tax base).  Same goes for office furniture, computer equipment, etc etc etc.

On most of the projects that list a dollar amount and estimated jobs, it looks like we are paying about $100,000 per short-term (less than a month) job.

I'm just fuming at the waste going on...this is pathetic.  Just cut our taxes and let's get some real stimulus moving TOMORROW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it drives me absolutely insane seeing what we are paying for.  I&#8217;m in Virginia and I spent a couple hours looking over the &#8220;stimulus&#8221; projects in Virginia.  I&#8217;d say most is completely unnecessary spending.</p>
<p>For example the Army art collection apparently needs some art conservation services.  Don&#8217;t we already employ a battalion&#8217;s worth (or more) or art conservation types at the National Portrait, Sackler and Freer Gallerieas and the rest of the Smithsonian organization.  Why do we need to spend money on outside servics when we already have the people employed.</p>
<p>Hell, we&#8217;re paying basically $250,000 per mile to repave and do other &#8220;safety&#8221; work on a 4 mile stretch of road that will &#8220;employ&#8221; an estimated 12 people for what 2 weeks, month tops?  That sure sounds like long term stimulus there.</p>
<p>Also, I see all kinds of facilities looking to buy trucks.  WHY?!?!?!  This government has hundreds of &#8220;surplus&#8221; vehicles out there that they can just move.  I went to govliquidation.com and founds dozens and dozens of military vehicles that would fit the bill&#8230;.on sale for $150 each.  Sure they need work, but why spend $15,000-$30,000 on a new truck when we can transfer a truck FREE and put $5,000 into it to get it up and running (at a local auto repair shop that employs mechanics and contributes to the tax base).  Same goes for office furniture, computer equipment, etc etc etc.</p>
<p>On most of the projects that list a dollar amount and estimated jobs, it looks like we are paying about $100,000 per short-term (less than a month) job.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just fuming at the waste going on&#8230;this is pathetic.  Just cut our taxes and let&#8217;s get some real stimulus moving TOMORROW.</p>
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		<title>By: Kowalski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>Kowalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know you have moved beyond comparable, and you have moved beyond inefficiency and moved into fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know you have moved beyond comparable, and you have moved beyond inefficiency and moved into fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Kowalski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-999</link>
		<dc:creator>Kowalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I talk about the difference in expenses between two things that should be roughly comparable, a "far cry" is something like 25%.  The difference between $20,000 and $18 million dollars is Ninety Thousand Percent (90,000%)

This is the Obama transparency calculus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I talk about the difference in expenses between two things that should be roughly comparable, a &#8220;far cry&#8221; is something like 25%.  The difference between $20,000 and $18 million dollars is Ninety Thousand Percent (90,000%)</p>
<p>This is the Obama transparency calculus.</p>
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		<title>By: ocleverone</title>
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		<dc:creator>ocleverone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>;)</description>
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		<title>By: Kowalski</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-997</link>
		<dc:creator>Kowalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You cite figures like $20,000 and compare them with $18 million and say that's "a far cry."

It's a factor of almost 1,000.  It's almost three orders of magnitude.  

You're being far too kind about the cost.  The next step is to watch the site like a hawk.  Because my guess is that for $18 million dollars it's not going to work very well, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cite figures like $20,000 and compare them with $18 million and say that&#8217;s &#8220;a far cry.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a factor of almost 1,000.  It&#8217;s almost three orders of magnitude.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re being far too kind about the cost.  The next step is to watch the site like a hawk.  Because my guess is that for $18 million dollars it&#8217;s not going to work very well, either.</p>
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		<title>By: ColdWarrior</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>ColdWarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sent an e-mail to fraudnet@gao.gov sending them the link.  

Here's some more info:

Report allegations of fraud, waste, abuse, or mismanagement of federal funds to GAO’s FraudNET.

How to submit allegations: 
Fill out a FraudNET form 
Send an e-mail to fraudnet@gao.gov 
Call 1-800-424-5454 (an automated answering system) 
Send a fax to FraudNET at 202-512-3086 
Write to: 

GAO FraudNET
441 G Street NW
Mail Stop 4T21 
Washington, DC 20548 
What information to submit:
Provide as much detail as possible. You do not need to provide your name.

http://www.gao.gov/fraudnet/fraudnet.htm

I'm sure they'll "get right on it." (Wink, wink.  Nod, nod.)

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sent an e-mail to <a href="mailto:fraudnet@gao.gov">fraudnet@gao.gov</a> sending them the link.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some more info:</p>
<p>Report allegations of fraud, waste, abuse, or mismanagement of federal funds to GAO’s FraudNET.</p>
<p>How to submit allegations:<br />
Fill out a FraudNET form<br />
Send an e-mail to <a href="mailto:fraudnet@gao.gov">fraudnet@gao.gov</a><br />
Call 1-800-424-5454 (an automated answering system)<br />
Send a fax to FraudNET at 202-512-3086<br />
Write to: </p>
<p>GAO FraudNET<br />
441 G Street NW<br />
Mail Stop 4T21<br />
Washington, DC 20548<br />
What information to submit:<br />
Provide as much detail as possible. You do not need to provide your name.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gao.gov/fraudnet/fraudnet.htm">http://www.gao.gov/fraudnet/fraudnet.htm</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ll &#8220;get right on it.&#8221; (Wink, wink.  Nod, nod.)</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: nessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>nessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millions for the Murtha Memorial Airport/Hair Care/Tire Center is fine, billions for ACORN is cool, this is another wise investment in transparency from our benevelont leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millions for the Murtha Memorial Airport/Hair Care/Tire Center is fine, billions for ACORN is cool, this is another wise investment in transparency from our benevelont leader.</p>
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		<title>By: nessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>nessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Millions for the Murtha Memorial Airport/Hair Care/Tire Center is fine, billions for ACORN is cool, this is another wise investment in transparency from our benevelont leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millions for the Murtha Memorial Airport/Hair Care/Tire Center is fine, billions for ACORN is cool, this is another wise investment in transparency from our benevelont leader.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hinz</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/jrichardson/2009/07/09/18-million-to-redesign-recoverygov/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh, yes...an unscripted moment of truth.  Nine-tenths of an iceberg is submerged below the water -- out of sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh, yes&#8230;an unscripted moment of truth.  Nine-tenths of an iceberg is submerged below the water &#8212; out of sight.</p>
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