The Republican National Committee will unveil a new website early Tuesday morning that promises to increase grassroots participation and offers improved navigability and smarter marketing and fundraising tools for the GOP, according to party officials.
Upon reaching the new GOP.com, RNC Chairman Michael Steele takes a virtual step onto the computer screen and leads users on a tour of the site’s new features.
“Notice anything different?” asks Steele. “It’s the new GOP.com. It’s a forward-looking, open-platform for the party of new ideas. If you’re a Republican activist, this is your space.”
The developers of the new website hope to capitalize on the organic activism that gave way to Tea Parties across the nation by “creating a larger, more informed, more organized, and more energized Republican community.”
Conscious of the propensity for online social networking to mobilize activists, the new website was designed with an unmistakable attentiveness to social media and blogging, having devoted a significant portion of the landing page’s real estate to Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and Flickr.
At first glance, the RNC’s new digital threads look nothing like a typical political website. From the dynamic logo featuring user-submitted pictures of supporters to the refreshingly simple navigation menu, the revamped and reorganized GOP web presence represents a commonly-preached but rarely-practiced belief on Capitol Hill: that the best ideas come from outside the Beltway.
Said one RNC official familiar with the project: “We tried to break the mold here. None of the firms we hired have ever worked in politics.”
In addition to seamlessly incorporating prominent social networks like Facebook and Twitter into their new platform, the RNC also revised their now-defunct in-house social network, myGOP. Renamed to represent Steele’s embrace of organic activism and community engagement, their new social network, dubbed “OurGOP,” allows users to organize by location, issue, or candidate slate.
And as a supplement to the new “you-centric” social network, RNC officials note an additional innovative feature: users can securely login with third-party credentials, including OpenID and Facebook rather than creating a new account.
The new website is the latest aspect of Steele’s comprehensive rebranding campaign for the GOP, who weathered two consecutive election-year losses in 2006 and 2008. The 2010 midterm elections, Steele hopes, will be different. And that difference will be fostered by surging online conservative activism.
“At GOP.com something new is happening. And that something is you,” said Steele in his video introduction.
UPDATE: As Politico’s Ben Smith points out, the RNC’s “Future Leaders” page is curiously—or perhaps candidly—blank.
The Democratic National Committee gleefully noted the error to reporters this morning, echoing the “it’s funny because it’s true” criticisms voiced on Twitter today.
Suggesting the blank page is somehow emblematic of the GOP’s withering crop of leaders, one DNC spox told Talking Points Memo “there are no future leaders in the GOP. As the GOP continues to champion the same failed policies of the past, recycle the same failed leaders of the past like Dick Cheney and Newt Gingrich, and fails to get that the American people aren’t looking for a party that just says ‘NO’ to progress, we rate this claim ‘True. So, very true.’”
Hoping to recover from their early-morning fumble, the RNC updated the page to reflect Steele’s belief that ‘action begins with the individual, and that grassroots activism holds the key to future GOP success.’
“Who are the future leaders of the Republican Party? You are — you, the people who make America work,” the new site reads.
The page does not currently feature any prominent Republican elected official or activist, but says supporters may send an email to FutureLeaders@GOP.com to acknowledge “stand-out, Republican leaders who don’t get the acclaim they deserve.”
Are they going to quit the annoying fundraising snailmails?
bk Tuesday, October 13th at 1:56AM EDT (link)Those are pretty insulting. I pretty much quit giving to any national charity or political operation. If you give some token amount they end up spending about 5x that amount asking you for more money. All my donations are local or targeted.
Tea partiers recognized global warming and cap and trade are frauds
katesmith Tuesday, October 13th at 3:07AM EDT (link)They know many in the GOP have allowed and encouraged this scam including their guy McCain. It could have been stopped a few years ago but wasn’t. That’s why people spent their finite time and money to travel to meetings in the past several months. I’m more interested in knowing why anyone who advocates cap and trade isn’t impeached.
And now Lindsey "I'm About To Cry" Graham...
RedBeard Tuesday, October 13th at 6:32AM EDT (link)…is on board with the Dems and their Cap and Tax scheme.
All the more reason to work from within to cure the sickness in the Republican Party.
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For once he should listen on McCain
bk Tuesday, October 13th at 8:51AM EDT (link)It looks like McCain is against cap and trade so far since it has nothing in it that promotes more nuclear power.
No GOP for me
10ksnooker Tuesday, October 13th at 4:05AM EDT (link)I give direct to the candidate of MY CHOICE, not the GOP.
Paleozoic
saterp Tuesday, October 13th at 7:47AM EDT (link)Dress it up or not, the Republican Part,y as it’s currently led, is a dinosaur. Just look at who is all over Fox in the numerous arguments against Dem/Obama initiatives - conservatives, not Pubs.
Then what is the GOP?
Rightshift Tuesday, October 13th at 9:25AM EDT (link)If conservatives are the only stark contrast between the Dem/Obama “initiative” rhetoric and an opposing view… then the “GOP” hasn’t differentiated itself between Dems and themselves…
…frankly with guys like McCain, Graham, and Steele acting as reps of the GOP, you now have Democrats and Democrat-Lite…
What? 2/3rds less socialism than your regular democrat?
The problem for the GOP is they don’t have the stones to change the game… we’re now playing on a Liberal playing field and ‘competing’ with the message of who can better manage this BIG government more efficiently. Small Government is a punchline for votes, not an exercised plank in the platform.
I don’t hear the GOP making any comments on the CONSTITUTIONALITY of ANYTHING being wrought in Congress these days (especially this so call Health Care reform). Its time that starts being used as the standard by which legislation is made… someone says ‘I want government freebies’ … the answer should better be ‘No sorry, not in the Constitution’ … go get a job!
Too many ‘yes’ men… not enough Reagans in the party.
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GOP.com What We Believe
AskMeLater Tuesday, October 13th at 9:47AM EDT (link)http://gop.com/index.php/learn/what_we_believe/
As someone from the outside looking into the GOP. It is hard to reconcile pages like this. With what my own eyes have seen these past two decades.
As far as I’m concerned. The above page is a lie. Either that or the Republicans that made this site. Have never watched their own party govern.
The position being taken is not to be mistaken
For attempted education or righteous accusation
Only a description just an observation of the pitiful
Condition of our degeneration
Actually, nobody asked you at all.
Moe Lane Tuesday, October 13th at 10:44AM EDT (link)Don’t make the mistake of thinking that this is a conversation. Or that I consider this to be good-faith criticism on your part (unlike most of the other critics on this thread). Or that you matter enough that my removal of you from this website will make any difference to the larger universe at all.
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Ouch, I'm so hurt Moe!
AskMeLater Tuesday, October 13th at 11:23AM EDT (link)How can you continue to believe in a party that doesn’t practice what it preaches? This isn’t a joke. You and others should take this more seriously. Is winning more important than liberty. No, it is not.
The position being taken is not to be mistaken
For attempted education or righteous accusation
Only a description just an observation of the pitiful
Condition of our degeneration
Zero for three.
Moe Lane Tuesday, October 13th at 11:31AM EDT (link)Impressive, in its way.
Bye.
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Criticism Moe?
Rightshift Tuesday, October 13th at 12:46PM EDT (link)I’m curious, Sir…
Just what does the GOP stand for these days? I frankly think I hit the nail on the head… you may differ in your point of view… but just WHAT does the GOP stand for? I hear Dems say ‘X’ and the Republican party chimes “me too - Y” Which is really X just rephrased a different way.
When the GOP runs away from the conservative platform, they lose. Are you saying that where the GOP is today is where they should be? All this “Big Tent” moderate “embrace everything, stand for nothing” rhetoric that has all the strength of a wet noodle?
I’m curious, Sir… just where should the GOP be?
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As much as I liked Reagan, and I really did...
RedBeard Tuesday, October 13th at 10:58AM EDT (link)…he, too, often failed to uphold the original intent and limited government mandate of the Constitution.
I can’t think of even one current office-holder who “gets it” in the sense of fully honoring the Founders’ wishes and unsurpassed wisdom.
Obviously, we have to play with the team that’s available, just as we did when we were kids doing pickup games and had to take the fat guy who couldn’t run to 1st base in less than a half-hour. But that doesn’t mean we stop looking for better base runners next time.
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We seem to forget something here..
Rightshift Tuesday, October 13th at 12:40PM EDT (link)… Congress has just as much a responsibility to uphold the Constitution as Congress does… don’t dismiss Congress’s lack of restraint, especially during the Reagan years.
Reagan got what he wanted from the Congress because he went straight to the people who in turn pressured Congress, but to that end, Congress porked up their bills and Reagan really didn’t have much choice, either sign or veto. Frankly at times I think he should’ve vetoed the porked up bills.
But all legislation comes from Congress, FIRST! Meaning they should invoke the restraint FIRST before anyone else.
“Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim - when he defends himself - as a criminal.” — Frederic Bastiat
Of course, that is quite right
RedBeard Tuesday, October 13th at 12:51PM EDT (link)But I still wish Reagan had used his veto pen a few more times. It’s true that his vetoes were overridden several times by an unwise Congress, but the veto is still a very effective weapon.
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I concur..
Rightshift Tuesday, October 13th at 12:58PM EDT (link).. with your assessment…
“Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim - when he defends himself - as a criminal.” — Frederic Bastiat
saterp
Neil Stevens Tuesday, October 13th at 10:52AM EDT (link)So how are your efforts doing at reforming your county Republican Party?
Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis
Would be better...
Rightshift Tuesday, October 13th at 12:59PM EDT (link)… if I can get those nitwits to either answer the phone or return one…
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Are there meetings just to show up to?
Neil Stevens Tuesday, October 13th at 1:04PM EDT (link)There should be.
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Does it make a difference?
mancjamie Tuesday, October 13th at 8:07AM EDT (link)I just wonder how much difference a fancy website makes to anything. Time will tell I suppose.
Premier League Football is my life.
Mattered for Obama
Neil Stevens Tuesday, October 13th at 1:04PM EDT (link)A good website helps organize people.
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I am more of a substance guy and this site leaves much to be desired.
Marcus_Traianus Tuesday, October 13th at 8:49AM EDT (link)The layout is kluge and too busy. Simplicity is obviously not part of the scheme.
So if I want to find the Republican health care alternative plan or jump to positions on major issues, how many clicks is that? Where in Heavens name is all the substance? Did anybody actually look at the flow?
This might be nice for the younger demographic- with a lot of patience. But for older, less technologically sophisticated voters it is a bust. The “look and feel” is too flashy with not enough content or rationalization of links.
Look at GOP.gov, that is a much better site. By the way, what is the issue with getting all sites to look ubiquitously the same? Are we afraid that having the same navigation on say, the Minority Leaders page, NRCC, GOP.gov, GOP.com. etc. might make it too easy for people to find content?
D-. If they wanted help from professionals or honest feedback, thet should have asked for it. I am always willing to help.
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Website consistency
Sean Hackbarth Tuesday, October 13th at 10:59AM EDT (link)Site consistency would be helpful, but all the sites you mention have different constituencies. Some are government sites (gop.gov) while other are party/campaign sites. While there’s a GOP, it’s made up of many different parts. Neither Steel nor any Republican in Congress can declare that all websites have to look a certain way.
Disclaimer: I manage one of those sites, Republican.Senate.Gov.
Disclaimer: I work for the Senate Republican Conference.
http://www.theamericanmind.com
All due respect Sean, but you guys should talk
Marcus_Traianus Tuesday, October 13th at 11:21AM EDT (link)Trust me, I understand none of this is easy but the same “theme” and “look and feel” should be part of the plan. That starts with everybody moving in the same direction.
Talk to each other, make contact on Linked-in or start some kind of contact group, The brainpower and experience you guys possess has to be staggering. Imagine if you set aside the differences to harness that?
People find government affairs vaunting due to the complexity and sheer magnitude of information. I feel very strongly a key to our success is decoding the mystery and putting usable information in people’s hands. They are interested like never before so we need to baby step them through the process.
I am often asked questions such as “What is the Republican alternative health care plan (quickly followed by HA!). I know enough to answer the question, but my 50 year old novice neighbor that wants to get involved in the debate can’t. But he can surf the web and complains there is not one GOP site where he can arm himself with the answer to that question in one click.
My approach has always been- throw out what you know and look at things from a novice’s perspective. You would be surprised at how much easier, intelligent and cleaner designs become.
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You want substance Marcus? Check this page out...
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 13th at 11:06AM EDT (link)http://www.gop.com/index.php/learn/future_leaders/
Oh boy beck. There is a metaphor in that link.
Marcus_Traianus Tuesday, October 13th at 11:09AM EDT (link)That is the last page that should be blank…..
“Both of our political parties, at least the honest portion of them, agree conscientiously in the same object—the public good; but they differ essentially in what they deem the means of promoting that good. One side believes it best done by one composition of the governing powers; the other, by a different one. One fears most the ignorance of the people; the other, the selfishness of rulers independent of them. Which is right, time and experience will prove.”.Thomas Jefferson
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There are problems when transitioning to a new site
James Richardson Tuesday, October 13th at 11:11AM EDT (link)Including, losing material from the last iteration. They’re aware of the error and are working to fix it.
http://www.skepticians.com
Just like the problems of transitioning to new leaders....
Marcus_Traianus Tuesday, October 13th at 11:48AM EDT (link)I only wish some of those pages would go blank.
Can somebody please send a big “404 Not Found” sign to John McCain and Mitch McConnell?
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Ouch...
leftylurker Tuesday, October 13th at 11:14AM EDT (link)Ow! t3h Irony!
But it’s total BS, the 404 should come up on “Current Leaders” and it should link to a similar page in Congress.
You guys have a lot of new leaders…it’s just the old folks who don’t get that.
I wonder how many languages that last sentence has been spoken in.
Moe Lane Tuesday, October 13th at 11:38AM EDT (link)Probably all of them.
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leftylurker, THIS post is why
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 13th at 6:05PM EDT (link)we love ya.
Dear GOP - Tone down the orange-red
Sundayjack Tuesday, October 13th at 9:04AM EDT (link)I don’t need retinal burn this early in the day. Note redstate.com - a more welcoming color.
If it's MyGOP...
unfatmatt Tuesday, October 13th at 9:07AM EDT (link)Then why is Michael Steele still running it? If it were mine, I would have fired him after laughing at Hughley’s comment about the RNC looking like the Nazi Party.
It’s gonna take a whole lot more than a fancy internet site to get me to give. I’m a registered Republican, but I’m a God-fearing, freedom loving, Constitution reading conservative first. If there’s a D running for office, and he’s more conservative than the liberal RINO, I’m sending money to the D.
As for the snailmail surveys, I always send them back with a long lecture about how the GOP only pays lip-service to the issues and hasn’t actually accomplished anything but compromise in the last several years.
And then your 'conservative' D votes in...
Moe Lane Tuesday, October 13th at 10:38AM EDT (link)…Pelosi, Reid, Obey, Dodd, Waxman, Kerry, Rangel, & Murtha to positions of power and authority.
Smart. Real smart.
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Conservative Dems are extinct.
RedBeard Tuesday, October 13th at 11:17AM EDT (link)It’s a shame, really. Way back in the Dark Ages when I first started voting, there were quite a few worthy conservative Democrats running around loose, but they’ve all been hunted to extinction.
Dodo Dems. [sorry- couldn't resist]
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Good call, Redbeard.
TNJim Tuesday, October 13th at 12:00PM EDT (link)If there is still such a thing as a conservative Democrat, He or shes been hounded into irrelevancy by the Pelosi/Reid clique. You might still find some at the local or state level but they just can’t get traction if they want to move up to the national level. See the current crop of so-called “Blue Dogs”.
The term Trojan horse comes to mind…
“No. You can’t” -Moe Lane
Oh, they can run as conservatives real well.
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 12:09PM EDT (link)Our boy Senator, Mark Begich, like his mentor former Governor Knowles can out-conservative most Republicans when they’re campaigning. Of course, notwithstanding the fact that everything the Democrat Party is about is antithetical to the interests of Alaska, he just votes in lockstep with the Caucus, though they’d probably give him a pass on a gun vote or an ANWR vote especially if he could recruit a Republican to vote with the Ds in his stead.
In Vino Veritas
It needs some work.
NeoKong Tuesday, October 13th at 9:15AM EDT (link)For example I’m not to sure I like using faces as the O in GOP. It’s kind of corny.
Also there is nothing to grab your attention when you click on it.
Maybe they could put news stories about Democrats on the front page to get people interested, you know…HuffPo style.
They need to format it more like a blog site where people can read opinions and stories from people they recognize.
For example I cannot tell what the GOP is up to today or what is an important event unless I search for it.
To much valuable front page space is wasted on useless information. The damn banner takes up a third of the page.
There doesn’t seem to be a sense of urgency or motivation to it.
It had the feel of a library. It was like clicking on to the Dept. of Motor Vehicles. It needs pictures and headlines. Where is it’s blog roll? Are they linking to right-wing sites?
Where is the star power?
It’s two dimensional.
It’s one and a half dimensional…..yaaawwwnnnn.
The opinion of a wise whitino male.
Conservative first
redpens Tuesday, October 13th at 9:17AM EDT (link)I’m a registered Republican so I can vote in the primary. I’m not giving to a party that endorses Charlie Crist(Governor Suntan) over Marco Rubio. I give to individual conservatives only, no stinking RINOs’ are getting my money.
Some quick thoughts.
Moe Lane Tuesday, October 13th at 10:50AM EDT (link)* If you have layout issues, the GOP.com site is actively calling for people to help with that.
* If you don’t believe the GOP’s intentions, the GOP.com site is actively calling for people to join up, and thus help with that.
* Complaining about the GOP on RedState actually accomplishes nothing, explicitly including getting conservative Republicans elected next year.
* This new movie Zombieland has a tagline that I can’t repeat here. Look it up, embrace it, live it.
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Still in beta
Sean Hackbarth Tuesday, October 13th at 11:06AM EDT (link)GOP.com just launch, and like any major website is a work in progress. I had some log-in problems so I know there’s work to be done. I urge people to go there, sign up, and try it out. The only way the GOP’s tech people can fix the problems is getting valuable feedback.
And remember, this is simply a website relaunch. No website will fix any gripes you might have with the party.
Disclaimer: I work for the Senate Republican Conference.
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Is the GOP EVER gonna get it right?
scottbomb Tuesday, October 13th at 1:38PM EDT (link)I tried, Sean. I tried to log in but it didn’t recognize me. I tried to “sign up” and when I entered my email and zip code, nothing happened.
Several months ago, I tried using gop.com and could never log in. I couldn’t sign up then either. Nothing I tried worked. I came here (RS) asking for help and no one had an answer. Heck, I even wrote my (R) congressman about it and all I got was a lot of nothing.
Snce you mentioned it, why in the world would anyone release a BETA version to the public at large?? Does Microsoft release Windows when it’s in BETA? Good grief!
I’ve been wondering for a long time now if this is the work of leftists infiltrating the GOP. Like the people who ran McCain’s campaign….
http://www.HowObamaGotElected.com
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Feedback page timing out too
scottbomb Tuesday, October 13th at 1:41PM EDT (link)I clicked on “Problems with the site?” link and got a “page cannot be displayed” error. Seriously, this is pathetic.
http://www.HowObamaGotElected.com
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Complaining...
RedBeard Tuesday, October 13th at 11:33AM EDT (link)…followed by constructive participation is a good agenda.
The problem is caused by people like those who complained bitterly about John McCain, stayed home on election day and handed the election to Obama, and now are back in the complaining-only mode.
Yes, complain, and loudly. But for cryin’ out loud, put down the remote control, put on a shirt, GET UP, AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
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Precisely.
Moe Lane Tuesday, October 13th at 11:36AM EDT (link)For example, we need more people doing this:
http://theprecinctproject.wordpress.com/
Which is on my list of things to accomplish at my next county GOP meeting.
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Good God,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 11:56AM EDT (link)You people are insatiable. Rather then sitting on your carcass complaining about how the GOP isn’t to your liking, why don’t you do something about it, huh ?
If you don’t like the website, then give them feedback. If you don’t like the party leadership, then get involved. Simply standing around and complaining like idiots isn’t going to accomplish your end means. That is pretty much why I didn’t like the tea parties to begin with. Because the people there vent their frustrations, and then they go home without doing anything about it. And the ones that do indeed get involved in politics are libertarians, third party people.
Whether you like it or not, the GOP is your only hope of stopping the democrats, so get up off your dainty behinds and get involved in the Republican Party.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Who the Hell are you?
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 12:05PM EDT (link)There are Party activists, officers, elected and appointed officials here. Your bio says you’re a college student studying PoliSci and you want to talk about our “dainty behinds.” College students are about the biggest waste of oxygen on the planet. My God, I’m impressed!
In Vino Veritas
Gee,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 12:29PM EDT (link)thanks for the vote of confidence. I might as well just take a razor blade on off myself, since I am just a waste of oxygen. Nevermind the fact that I maybe, just maybe, be a future conservative leader./sarc
Get real, thats the same kind of attitude the left has towards unborn children. If I relied on your, as well as a few other people’s advice, I would never get anywhere. So back off, punk. Don’t ever underestimate us college kids.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
In case you missed the point
RedBeard Tuesday, October 13th at 1:09PM EDT (link)The main problem with your first post, Lelouch, is your wrongheaded assumption that Tea Party people just “go home without doing anything about it,” unless they are Libertarians. Then you compound the problem by calling people idiots.
As Achance said, you don’t know who you are insulting here.
How about a do-over? Are you able and willing?
But whatever the case, don’t sweat it. We make allowances, I was a college student once, and needed a flashlight and a road map to find my ass.
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Thats whats pissing me off
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 1:17PM EDT (link)You guys are always patronizing college people. They are the future of this nation, you know. That patronizing spirit will turn off a lot of young people who would otherwise be interested in the GOP. The Republican party is not just for you middle-aged people, ya know.
Anyway, I take back nothing that I said. Out of all the people that I seen attend the local tea party, only 1 or 2 showed up at the meeting. And combined with some of the complainers at this site has led me to believe that people will complain, but won’t lift a muscle to help. If your not gonna help, get the hell out of our way then.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
I don't "patronize college people;" I barely acknowledge
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 1:21PM EDT (link)their existence and they have to affirmatively prove to me that they can and will do anything. Most are just spoiled little brats with lots of self-esteem and little reason to have it. You seem to fit that pattern.
In Vino Veritas
Now you
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 1:24PM EDT (link)are getting just pathetic. A good organization is one that takes younglings under their wing and instruct them, so that the organization can survive. You obviously have proven that you would never make a good leader. Begone.
P.S. We are here to stay.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
You mean like...
Rightshift Tuesday, October 13th at 2:45PM EDT (link)…MM MMM MMM, Barack Hussein Obama…”equal work for equal pay” MM MM MM…
you mean like that?
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And what
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:32PM EDT (link)do you mean by that ?
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
"Younglings"?
Third Street Tuesday, October 13th at 5:38PM EDT (link)This isn’t “Star Wars”, kid. In the real world, brand-new college grads aren’t referred to by their elders as “younglings”; they’re more commonly known as “people with no marketable real-world experience.”
When they have attitudes like yours they’re known, even more commonly, as “unemployable”.
I seriously hope you have another two or three years of college ahead of you. You could use the time to grow up a little more, and take a good hard look at how you’ll survive once you’re out of the incubator. ‘Cause you’ll have a hard time persuading someone to hire you for no other reason than “I’m the future!” even in the best of times.
Here to stay? I doubt that. -nt
E Pluribus Unum Tuesday, October 13th at 5:46PM EDT (link)Carthago delenda est
You're funny.
Steph C Tuesday, October 13th at 6:27PM EDT (link)They should keep you around for comic relief but I doubt you’ll last that long because you really don’t know anything about the people here.
First you insult everybody, then pretend you’re insulted, then you pull the “I’m young and know more than you” card. WTG, leslouch.
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The difference between you and me, Lelouch...
RedBeard Tuesday, October 13th at 1:41PM EDT (link)…is that I realize just how stupid I was back when I was in college and just how little I knew when I thought I knew everything. It’s a lesson that takes some time and maturity to learn. That’s not patronizing; it’s being honest, and speaking from experience.
Meanwhile, before accusing others of being patronizing, go back and read your first post. Really read it. If you’re willing to be honest with yourself, you will see why it was so poorly received. If not, just continue your insults, your gross generalizations, your false conclusions, and see how far that routine gets you in the pursuit of making friends and influencing people.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
I told you before, I
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:11PM EDT (link)have nothing to take back from that post. In fact I stand behind every single word. Patronize me all you want, it still doesn’t deny the fact that people are content to just sit around and complain rather then get off their butts and fix things.
And maturity and stupidity from college kids have nothing to do with this argument. Rather, both you and Achance took the opportunity to diss on us college kids, with content that was none to constructive.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Listen, punk! You came here with an insult,
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 1:17PM EDT (link)you can expect one back. Now when you’ve done something besides consume oxygen, perhaps you might be entitled to judge. I’ve actually found it pretty close to impossible to underestimate college students and recent college graduates. And you don’t show much promise so far as a future leader, conservative or otherwise.
In Vino Veritas
What I said is the truth.
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 1:20PM EDT (link)It ain’t my fault that a has-been took it the wrong way. And we college kids are the future, whether you like it or not, so get out of our way. Perhaps do something constructive like educating us on how to properly do things rather then blow us off. Until then, get out of my way.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Doesn't it just suck that there's gonna' be old guys
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 1:26PM EDT (link)like me standing between your esteemed self and the power and glory you deserve for the next ten or even twenty years? I fired a lot of young lawyers with your attitude. It isn’t something with which I am unfamiliar.
In Vino Veritas
Good thing I am not your employee.
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 1:30PM EDT (link)I bet it must be a tyrannical workplace over there. Anyway, you are completely backwards. Old people like you should be helping train new people like me, after the organization must survive. That is just practical sense, something I am convinced you don’t have.
Besides, I do not seek power and glory, Mr. Strawman. I seek a better tomorrow.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
I don't want to train arrogant little punks.
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 1:32PM EDT (link)I know how to recognize skill and attitude is a major part of skill. You failed the attitude part by shooting off your mouth about things you know nothing about and compounded your failure by failing to learn from the first failure.
In Vino Veritas
I wouldn't want to work under
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:14PM EDT (link)an old bag that would call me a waste of oxygen to begin with. I merely stated the truth, that people are much more adept to sit and complain, then do something about it. Oh, and that it applied to the Tea Party as well.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
With the attitude you just showed, I wouldn't want to work
Richard Mullins Tuesday, October 13th at 5:23PM EDT (link)around you. Really, I’d feel insulted to have you as a co-worker and with you let out here, I want so bad to work for myself again. I don’t like idiots.
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I wouldn't want to work
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:28PM EDT (link)around you gasbags either. I would refuse to work under someone that considers college kids a waste of air. That would have been an abusive enviroment.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
I think that it's you that is a waste of fresh air
Richard Mullins Tuesday, October 13th at 5:35PM EDT (link)really, you sound like the typical snot that think too highly of themselves. Well get over it.
BTW, most of those Today that blasted you are older than me(I’m only 32), so my remarks to you should make you think. Don’t you have something better to call us is “Gasbags”?
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Moron,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:43PM EDT (link)I was responding to the fact tha Achance called my generation a waste of oxygen. And it is not me that thinks to highly of myself, it is you who disparage
college kids.
And I meant gasbags. There are old folk who are wise and tends to use their wisdom wisely. And then there are old folk that believes that everyone beneath them in understatnding are wastes of oxygen. I believe you 3 are of the latter group
Anyway, you still have not proven me wrong on my statement. If you want to shut me down, then attack my statement. If your just gonna insult ,e for me insulting you, we could do this all day. Otherwise shut up.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
No, punk, I called YOU a waste of oxygen. nt
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 5:45PM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
Dude, I don't need to prove right or wrong
Richard Mullins Tuesday, October 13th at 5:56PM EDT (link)you a wonderful job proving why no one will hire you until matured. Really, you need to get over it and start learning from the only school that matters, the school of hard knocks. Until then, you should and will be rejected. I certainly wouldn’t hire you and I’m sure that there are lots of others that will not as well.
BTW, you failed your first test, you refer to me as a moron(a very stupid way handle things). Art doesn’t have the time to deal with idiots, but I’m a bit younger and haven’t learned to deal with your kind.
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You just proving my earlier assertion that
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:07PM EDT (link)you are a moron. I explicitly stated that I wouldn’t want to be nowhere near you guys. I then mentioned that only a fool would not take a youngling under his wing. As to who that youngling may be, I don’t care.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
You don't have enough brains to make an assertion. -nt-
Richard Mullins Tuesday, October 13th at 6:26PM EDT (link)For more on my views, go my wordpress site:
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Make that 4 of us, leslouch...
nessa Tuesday, October 13th at 6:19PM EDT (link)Attack your statement? Which one? First you accuse people on the site of sitting around doing nothing but bitching, when if you had any familiarity with the site you would have known that exactly the opposite is true. People on this site are active in politics, Tea Parties, the GOP on a daily basis.
Then a little later you say we are supposed to be training young people like yourself except you refuse to accept anyone’s suggestions or training.
Now we’re all biased (too bad racist doesn’t fit the categorization) against college students. Once again you haven’t spent any time reading the site, a good many of the posters here are college students, to include front pagers and moderators.
Take a knee, drink water and face out. Sorry, you don’t have enough life experience to recognize that phrase. Its a left over from when I was killing and willing to be killed. It means slow down, catch your breath and lets go again when everyone has had a chance to contemplate things a little. Map check, get it?
One other thing to consider, its old curmudgeons like the folks you have been yelling at all afternoon that hire smart a**ed little college kids after they graduate. You may not want to resemble the characters in “A Message to Garcia” so much when you’re interviewing.
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
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In my field we won't even hire college graduates
E Pluribus Unum Tuesday, October 13th at 5:42PM EDT (link)until they learn how to actually write software - and it typically takes a minimum of at least 3 years to do that, plus de-program all the bad habits, saucy mouth, and academic entitlement mentality out of them.
If they don’t learn to grow into it, they end up selling used cars or hamburgers along with the rest of the CSE grads.
Carthago delenda est
Careful, EPU, it's a sensitive little creature. You might damage its self-esteem. nt
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 5:44PM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
What self-esteem ?
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:03PM EDT (link)I f I was that sensitive, I wouldn’t be here today ?
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Sigh,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:46PM EDT (link)Did you think before you type ? I don’t care what criteria you use to hire employees. Its your business, do what you want. My problem is that your generation tends to dismiss my generation as having nothing to contribute.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
What have you contributed to this thread?
$peciallist Tuesday, October 13th at 5:49PM EDT (link)if you say ‘the Truth’, I will lmao…
I could say the same of you.
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:02PM EDT (link)What have you contributed to life, at all ?
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
I haven't read further down the thread
Hooah_Mac Tuesday, October 13th at 7:00PM EDT (link)But I assume Lelouch has already made a less than graceful exit. A note for future Lelouches of the world - you can click on a person’s name and see what they have contributed just to this site. That will keep you from making a really dumb comment like the one he made above to $peciallist.
Also, to everyone else, this guy had Hinz rule written all over him about 3 pages up, we really shouldn’t feed the trolls.
“You can call yourself a Republican, but if you’ve lost the support of Fred Thompson, you are an unholy thing that will be destroyed by a rain of fire.” -IMAO
your generation voted for Obama
E Pluribus Unum Tuesday, October 13th at 5:50PM EDT (link)we appreciate that contribution.
Carthago delenda est
Thats almost as stupid as
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:59PM EDT (link)The entire white race is responsible for slavery. Nevermind that there are individuals who were abolitionists, just as much as there were individuals among my generation that didn’t vote for Obama.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Nice analogy
E Pluribus Unum Tuesday, October 13th at 7:14PM EDT (link)Since 10% of southern whites (and 3% overall American whites) held slaves, and 66%of the age 18-29 voters voted for Obama, I can see where that’s just a perfect insight.
And since you absolutely cannot STAND not to have the last word, reply to this with whatever you wish, and I won’t respond. Wouldn’t want you to get all pouty and have a BF.
Carthago delenda est
Most of you can't pour pee out of a boot with the instructions on the heel.
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 5:50PM EDT (link)And, you want us to praise you for staring at the boot. Go figure. And, BTW, you haven’t done your generation proud today.
In Vino Veritas
You haven't done your generation proud either,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:01PM EDT (link)old man. Perhaps if you weren’t a stuffed shirt you would realize the value of youn people. You know, people you can mold.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
We "stuffed shirts" are who you're going to have to convince to hire you. nt
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 6:09PM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
and you have done nothing
kyle8 Tuesday, October 13th at 6:09PM EDT (link)to dispel our assumptions.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
If you want to be trained...
RedBeard Tuesday, October 13th at 1:44PM EDT (link)…you first have to stop yelling.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
One problem,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:15PM EDT (link)who said I want to be trained by you guys ?
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
I don't think our training will work on you
Richard Mullins Tuesday, October 13th at 5:24PM EDT (link)so on that point you might be right.
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Above you were advising us to train punks like you.
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 5:48PM EDT (link)I’m pretty certain you’re untrainable.
In Vino Veritas
Geez,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:57PM EDT (link)Are you intentionally not reading things today ? You like to dump on young people. The same young people who will eventually replace you. I could care less whether you train punks or brownnosers, thats up to you. Only a fool believes something can survive without a new generation.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Only a fool believes that just because the generation is new,
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 6:01PM EDT (link)it will be prodcutive and successful. Your generation has shown little evidence of competence at any level.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
And only a
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:08PM EDT (link)fool would leave a newer generation to rot.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
your problem is
kyle8 Tuesday, October 13th at 6:10PM EDT (link)you certainly cannot speak for an entire generation. And I am thankful that you do not.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Rot? nt
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 6:11PM EDT (link)“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Your generation has done a good job of putting the survival of this Nation
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 6:03PM EDT (link)in question. The largest demograpic supporting Comrade Obame was the ever-so-enlightened and educated under 30 set. Followed by single and never married women. I understand them; they just want baby daddies that they don’t have to be nice to. You young’uns are just stupid.
In Vino Veritas
And you old
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:13PM EDT (link)codgers are in need of a new “adjustment” on how you view people. It was your generation that left us this crushing debt. It was your generation that left us with a ticking timebomb in the middle east. It is your generation that kicked the can down the road to us, rather than manning up and confronting the problems yourself.
I could go all day with how your generation has screwed us over a barrel, but now that wouldn’t be productive now would it ?
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Ok, at this point, I call moby. This punk is no more
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 6:30PM EDT (link)a conservative or a Republican than he can rise and fly. Enough of this.
In Vino Veritas
There were these little things called communism and fascism
aesthete Tuesday, October 13th at 8:42PM EDT (link)you may have heard of them. The barely primordial backwards beasts who struggle to handle an RPG over in the Middle East are nothing in comparison.
Guilt is a rope that wears thin.
-Ayn Rand
“I am a freeman in a free state!”
-Last words of Dumnorix, chieftan of the Aedui, 54 BC
Oh, and it's also wise, when you find yourself...
RedBeard Tuesday, October 13th at 1:46PM EDT (link)…in a hole, to stop digging.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
Can't train people who are as dense as rock.
penguin2 Tuesday, October 13th at 1:51PM EDT (link)You’ve written a lot of nasty little comments. Yet you say you’ve been reading here for awhile. Ah you want a better tomorrow. Are you dreaming of some little Utopian society? I guess you are going to need to keep dreaming, because you won’t ever accomplish anything thinking you know everything now and are better than anyone else.
You are acting like a jerk, insulting everyone. As Achance said in his first response to you above; read the title to his comment. Because I am asking myself the same question about you.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
Utopia ?
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:23PM EDT (link)Utopia is and always remains a dream. When have I ever said otherwise ? Furthermore, I above all people are well aware of my shortcomings and my faults, but that doesn’t stop me from paving the way forward. I won’t ever know everything, but that isn’t going to stop me.
Furthermore, if you were insulted by my first post, its because its true. One thing I hate above all else is people who complain, and then do nothing. Could I have reworded the post to make it more easier to accept ? Possibly.
As far as the argument goes, rather than challenging my notion and proving me wrong, you decided to attack me directly as a college kid. Thats real immature from people that I expected better.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Man your on a roll today
Richard Mullins Tuesday, October 13th at 5:26PM EDT (link)you want to piss off everyone here. Really, you do get what you deserve.
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And ?
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:30PM EDT (link)At least, in order to deserve what I get, I at least did something. That is more than what you guys do.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
You really want to pick fights today
Richard Mullins Tuesday, October 13th at 5:40PM EDT (link)You’re going down the tubes fast into Troll land. Do me a favor and please either leave or understand that others here have more wisdom.
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Oh, leave it alone, Richard. All it wants is attention.
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 5:47PM EDT (link)Maybe it doesn’t know who its daddy is or something. Hinz Rule time.
In Vino Veritas
Now its it, huh ?
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:53PM EDT (link)Man, do I feel sorry for you.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Don't. My life's better than yours and better than yours is likely to ever be. nt
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 5:57PM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
You still haven't proved
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 5:51PM EDT (link)that my statement is wrong. It doesn’t matter whether you think I am a troll or not. I will not apologize until someone here decides to argue the statement, and prove me wrong.
In case you forgot, my statement is that certain individuals who posted here tend to complain loudly, and then do nothing. AANd that mentality is persuasive in the tea party movement. Protesting is fine and all, but it doesn’t have any meaning unless your willing to work for your end goals. If you don’t like the GOP, then change it. If you just sit on your hands, you have no right to complain then.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
You're a douche..
$peciallist Tuesday, October 13th at 5:55PM EDT (link)prove me wrong
Stupid punk: you made a general statement that
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 5:55PM EDT (link)people here were, what was it, sitting on our “dainty behinds.” To which I responded that many here were activists, officers, and elected and appointed officials. You have yet to respond to that or acknowledge that your generalization unfairly characterized many posters here.
In any event, you’re a stupid little punk. Since I can’t just send you to your room as you so richly deserve, I’m just going to ignore you.
In Vino Veritas
Pot calling the kettle black.
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:15PM EDT (link)In any event, please do ignore me. I beg of you, continue on your daily life, and prove that I was right in my statement.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
no ignoring you, or banning you
kyle8 Tuesday, October 13th at 6:19PM EDT (link)which I am sure is going to happen shortly, will not “prove” your so called point.
Your argument was made in complete ignorance of who we are and what we have done in life so it is worthy of exactly the level of attention it got, none.
You think you know a lot, but you obviously do not have the first clue of how to frame an argument so as not to needlessly antagonize others and immediately reveal your ignorance.
Might I recommend a book. “How to win friends and influence people” by Dale Carnegie.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
I highly doubt I'll get banned.
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:25PM EDT (link)reprimanded maybe, but not banned. And if my argument was nothing, then why do I have 6-7 people piling on me ? If you truly believed it was nothing, then why give me any attention. Just let me post my ravings as a madmen and let me be.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Oh, Moe, the little troll doesn't think he'll get banned. Your opinion? nt
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 6:32PM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
Or Neil; maybe Moe's busy. nt
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 6:32PM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
I too,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:48PM EDT (link)would like to know their opinion as well. I am worthy of getting banned, moderators ? Please let me know.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
I don't see grounds for banning
civil_truth Tuesday, October 13th at 6:55PM EDT (link)Impertinence is not a capital offense to my knowledge. However, I do hope your next foray here is more edifying.
And Rightly So!
I
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:56PM EDT (link)hope so as well.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
I dunno Achance.
Steph C Tuesday, October 13th at 6:51PM EDT (link)He’s been good for something. I’ve laughed at quite a bit at some of his little tirades.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics
WRONG!
bs Tuesday, October 13th at 10:37PM EDT (link)Troll.
Decorum is fo’ suckas
"There are Party activists, officers, elected and appointed officials here. "
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 5:58PM EDT (link)The answer to your comment was in the very first reply.
We have city councilpersons, precinct captains, campaign workers, Tea Party organizers and activists of all kinds. I am in the process of becoming a GOP precint captain.
If you spent more time here. You might have some clue.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
I have spent time here.
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:17PM EDT (link)Which is why it is pretty pathetic that Moe Lane and a few others have to continue to remind people to get involved. They shouldn’t have to do that.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Why not? nt
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 6:20PM EDT (link)“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Because,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:22PM EDT (link)when you see a problem, you fix it. That should be an automatic response, not something people have to prod you to do.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
I applaud your world class initiative!
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 6:27PM EDT (link)What makes you think that once we are aware of a problem, that we don’t take steps to correct the situation? What leads you to believe otherwise?
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
hmm, I don't know,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:30PM EDT (link)maybe the fact that your generation stuck there heads in the send rather than deal with Social Security, the debt, etc. Why has it gotten worse instead of better ?
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Okay, Lelouch, what are you doing to change the GOP? nt
Xasteius Tuesday, October 13th at 6:34PM EDT (link)Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.
When I grow up, I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be Art Chance.
~Aaron Gardner
I am eventually,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:44PM EDT (link)planning to become a state representative in the future. For now, I have made myself useful as a volunteer at the Greene County Republican Party, as well as volunteering for several political campaigns here in Missouri.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Thank you for answering about your political efforts
civil_truth Tuesday, October 13th at 7:00PM EDT (link)But please don’t assume others are not doing their part to take back our country. But we’ve got a lot of inertia to redirect.
I heard years ago that “patience is not a virtue wasted on yourth” and it’s still true, but that doesn’t apply to forebearance or not jumping to conclusions.
And Rightly So!
Did it ever occur to your pea brain
Steph C Tuesday, October 13th at 6:36PM EDT (link)that they do repetitive posts because there are always new people looking for answers on how to help get us out of this fix we’re in as a nation?
No, of course not. You already know everything there is to know, right?
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Nope,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:46PM EDT (link)I don’t know everything. But my lack of knowledge will not stop me from moving forward.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Oh yes it will.
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 13th at 8:19PM EDT (link)Especially when combined with a fatal dose of total arrogance.
You want to be arrogant, fine. But first you have to earn the right. Donald Trump can get away with it. You and Barack can’t.
I work for a political party, I vote, and I donate
kyle8 Tuesday, October 13th at 6:14PM EDT (link)What else is there for the average person to do eh sonny?
Oh yeah, and one other thing, I blog a lot. you might call that complaining, but I call it networking.
Oh one more thing, Get over yourself.
“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle
Lelouch, you really are something, and I don't think it is nice.
penguin2 Tuesday, October 13th at 6:02PM EDT (link)All of your comments were insulting. Try:
“you people are insatiable” “sitting on a carcass complaining” “then go home without doing anything” “so back off, punk” “never make a good leader” “begone” “Mr. Strawman.
Wow! You really don’t know who you are talking to around here or what you are saying. Mr Achance has had a long and distinguished career and could make mincemeat of you.
Most of the people on this site have become active off site. And if you were really reading this site, you would know that. I didn’t attack you as a college student. My remarks to you are strictly related to your boorish behavior and bad manners. It is obvious to me you are a spoiled and whinny young man who is immature. And yes, I am qualified to make that remark. I have twin boys who just graduated from college, and are wonderful young men.
You miss the point entirely, it is not about your age, it is about your behavior here.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
It was about my age, penguin.
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:21PM EDT (link)And I don’t care what kind of distinguished career he had. You “adults” created a mess in kicked down to us when you didn’t want to take responsibility, so now it will eventually be up to my generation to fix it.
However, I doubt we will. After all, we will probably kick it down the road to the next generation. We do learn from the best, don’t we ?
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Your right about that Lelouch, it will be up to your generation...
penguin2 Tuesday, October 13th at 6:28PM EDT (link)to fix it. The problem that “your” generation will have though, is a lack of skills and understanding of what it takes to be independent and motivated. If you are from our side, you will be angry at other people taking your hard earned money through government redistribution of wealth. And if you are from the other side, you will be wondering why all this Socialism/Communism has failed.
Regardless of which side you are from, you need to decide what you are going to do. The rest of us already have, despite your accusations to the contrary.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
Correction,"you're" instead of "your." Fast typing nt
penguin2 Tuesday, October 13th at 6:30PM EDT (link)Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
And the reason why
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:36PM EDT (link)we have a lack of skills is because your generation no longer believes in us, and since you don’t believe in us any longer, Why waste your time ?
Besides, I don’t need to wonder why Socialism failed. I never believed in Socialism, and I never will. I am a die-hard Capitalist. My sub-point here today is that it is useless to get involved unless your willing to pass you skills and knowledge to the next generation, which incidently, is us.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Lelouch, then you preaching to the choir here.
penguin2 Tuesday, October 13th at 6:43PM EDT (link)The people on this site are active and quite involved. Moe and others repeat that call to action all the time because we have new readers every day. Think about it from that view. You are talking to people who are already quite involved. Anyone new to the site does not know all the opportunities, the how, the what or wherefore.
Yes, there are many ,(not all) of your peers that may not have the skills and knowledge. It is not our fault. Take advantage of your opportunities. If you have peers you see this way, then educate them. The rest will have to learn the hard way.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
I knew that,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 7:08PM EDT (link)I was preaching to the choir. My original post was meant towards anybody here on this site that complained without doing something about it. If your already taking action, that post was not for you.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
When then, this thread is a case history of the old saying
civil_truth Tuesday, October 13th at 7:16PM EDT (link)…It’s not what you say but how your say it.
Something I have to remind my son of periodically (and some older folks too).
And Rightly So!
Funny you should say that,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 7:25PM EDT (link)my mother said the same thing to me too. She said that even though I have good things to say, sometimes what goes out of my mouth has the opposite intended effect.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Two mistakes in your post
aesthete Tuesday, October 13th at 8:35PM EDT (link)First, “after the organization must survive” should be “after [all,] the organization must survive.
Second, it wasn’t a strawman, it was an ad hominem.
Guilt is a rope that wears thin.
-Ayn Rand
“I am a freeman in a free state!”
-Last words of Dumnorix, chieftan of the Aedui, 54 BC
Well I guess you now have one accomplishment for your resume
civil_truth Tuesday, October 13th at 6:35PM EDT (link)Starting the biggest food fight RedState has seen in quite some time. I guess with the news headlines today,the regulars here need to let off a lot of steam. Thanks for providing the rest of us with some entertainment.
Though I must say your quality of invective has been rather disappointing. I suggest you study the masters of yore, starting with Shakespeare.
In the end, you can only learn to rule yourself. Do what is right, spend less time kvetching about what others should do, and let God sort out the rewards.
And Rightly So!
Thank you,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:38PM EDT (link)it was my pleasure. Regardless, of what has happened, then only thing we can do is walk forward. I will be sure to take your advice seriously, civil_truth.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Hey Lelouch! Sorry I missed most of the fun.
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 13th at 8:16PM EDT (link)But if happen to come back to check in, please note - and I know this is off-topic - that your signature line is utter bull stuff. I’m not going to go into detail other than to say review the early ’70’s when the biggest group of cowards ever assembled in one room voted to remove committed funding to the South Vietnamese Army and the result was the death of about five million little insignificant yellow people.
'becker, I think it is a quote from some game. Figures. nt
Achance Wednesday, October 14th at 9:46AM EDT (link)In Vino Veritas
One attempt
Hooah_Mac Tuesday, October 13th at 7:22PM EDT (link)I will make one attempt to rationally engage you.
Most of the posters here are very active. For myself, I am a state GOP delegate, I have been to tea parties, I blog, I call and I donate.
That is just me, nearly all of the active posters here have similar albeit different experiences. Your first post on this thread came off as arrogant and insulting, because you didn’t take the time to understand your audience, and you didn’t take the time to craft your argument so it would be persuasive instead of derogatory.
If you seriously want to help fix this country (and as a means to that end - the GOP), you would be well served to step back from posting and just read this site. There are are disabled veterans, single mothers, college students, career government officials, current and former politicians and others from the entire spectrum of social and racial backgrounds who come here specifically because they are activists who work in the trenches…this is just another trench.
The fact that you are a college student isn’t held against you - the fact that you made wildly disparaging comments, and all you have for a resume is college student - that is what caused the issue.
As you have been asked, what are YOU doing to fix these problems? You can’t pin it on my generation, or any generation, because the problem has been growing full force for at least 80 years and the under 30 crowd became just as complicit with there participation in the election of President Obama. At times, progress has been made to slow it down, but leviathan feeds and feeds. I know what about a hundred people that post here are doing and have done, what are you doing?
“You can call yourself a Republican, but if you’ve lost the support of Fred Thompson, you are an unholy thing that will be destroyed by a rain of fire.” -IMAO
Actually,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 7:27PM EDT (link)I am pretty much done engaging people today. I’ll come back tomorrow.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
If that is not a cop out
Hooah_Mac Tuesday, October 13th at 7:29PM EDT (link)I look forward to your response tomorrow.
“You can call yourself a Republican, but if you’ve lost the support of Fred Thompson, you are an unholy thing that will be destroyed by a rain of fire.” -IMAO
Not really,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 8:14PM EDT (link)just that I have said all that I needed to say today. Anything more is just blowing smoke.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
If the quality of your "engagement" tomorrow is no better
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 13th at 8:11PM EDT (link)than that of today, don’t bother.
Like I would ever listen
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 8:13PM EDT (link)to you, mbecker.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
lelouch, it is obvious you are just spoiling for a fight.
penguin2 Tuesday, October 13th at 8:16PM EDT (link)The moderators follow this. Why would you just haul off and attack like that? Do you want to leave and go run and tell your friends how “badly” you were treated.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
Given that I would never give you advise that I expected to be followed
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 13th at 8:37PM EDT (link)I really could care less. My only regret is that you don’t work for a company I run so I could throw you butt off a tall roof.
It’s obviously a very slow day in paradise because I’m frankly shocked that the good folks here have played with you as long as they have. On a normal day nobody would walk across the street to pour urine on you if you were on fire.
Lelouch did provide a short answer to "what are you doing"
civil_truth Tuesday, October 13th at 7:56PM EDT (link)Link here
I hope he will reflect on this thread and the advice given and that he behaves wisely the next time he comes here.
And Rightly So!
With an anime character as a screen name,
Achance Tuesday, October 13th at 8:22PM EDT (link)I’m thinking we were dealing with someone not here in good faith. And certainly with someone not here with good sense.
In Vino Veritas
Well he's a ghost now, Art
civil_truth Wednesday, October 14th at 1:00AM EDT (link)He certainly did not have the good sense to disengage in time - or perhaps it was just plain immaturity in dealing with the world outside of his college peers. Same outcome in the end.
I don’t rate him as having been a moby as 1) in dealing with me in that, he did listen and respond to my comments in what seems a genuine fashion (and even respectful); and 2) he did exhibit a sense of humor (including self-deprecation) a few times in the thread - which is not something you find among the hard left.
But for whatever reason, he couldn’t stop digging when he found himself in a hole, and got his due punishment for such behavior.
And Rightly So!
Nobody on dialup is going to be able to use this site
Finrod Tuesday, October 13th at 12:47PM EDT (link)You can’t just go throwing audio AND video at someone hitting the frontpage of a website without making it completely unusable for anyone connecting at dialup speeds– and when you consider that the strength of the GOP is in rural areas where a lot of people don’t have ‘high speed’ access, that right there disenfranchises a whole lot of people that don’t want to spend their money on high-speed access but do want to get involved in their political party.
Please, please, please reconsider this.
—
Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.
gop.com is down. returning a database error.
RJD Tuesday, October 13th at 1:25PM EDT (link)is there a contact email?
GOP.com works for
James Richardson Tuesday, October 13th at 1:26PM EDT (link)But yes, there is a contact email: ecampaign@gop.com
http://www.skepticians.com
Lelouch, you should copy, print and save this thread.
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 5:48PM EDT (link)Pull it out in ten years and read it. Then you will be able to clearly see what an ignorant asshat you are, here in 2009.
The ignorance of youth is almost as frustrating for you as it is for us.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
I don't know,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:28PM EDT (link)thanks to your generation, in ten years might not matter anyway.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Which generation is that?
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 6:30PM EDT (link)What assumptions are you making?
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Assumptions ?
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:40PM EDT (link)by the time I get out of college, the nation will more than likely be in over 15 trillion in debt. I am paying into a social security fund that I will never see again.
Who do you think I was accusing ?
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Which generation do I belong to, wise guy? nt
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 6:46PM EDT (link)“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
You need too accuse the "old guard" Progressive left
Richard Mullins Tuesday, October 13th at 6:48PM EDT (link)but they are almost all dead, so you turned your hostility to boomers(that didn’t even make this mess). As far going down hill like a snow ball headed for hell, the ones that voted for commissar Obama need to take the blame, so you need to blame yourself.
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Boomers brought us
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:54PM EDT (link)Bill Clinton. Enough said. And why should I take the blame for Obama ? If I recall correctly, I fought tooth and nail to make sure he didn’t step foot in the White House. That curiosly sounds like overgeneralization to me. I also seem to remember that yous guys said I did this to you.
Oh, wait….
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
I'm waiting Lelouch! nt
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 6:56PM EDT (link)“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
?
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:58PM EDT (link)For what ?
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
The answer to my question.
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 7:00PM EDT (link)What generation am I a part of?
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Lemme ask you a better question.
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 7:04PM EDT (link)What generation am I a part of ? I could be 18, I could 30. If I was were to guess, your generation is my generation.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Answer the question. nt
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 7:06PM EDT (link)“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Gee, are ya hard-headed or something ?
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 7:10PM EDT (link)I just did answer your question.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
No you didn't.
Vegas_Rick Tuesday, October 13th at 7:18PM EDT (link)And the reason you didn’t is because you can’t. You don’t know anything about me or any of the other people on this site that you’ve spent the last hour or so insulting and denigrating. You don’t know that many of us are veterans that fought in the wars and served in the bad places so you could grow up and live your priveledged and sheltered life. And we’ve fought many political battles, from CIR to Social Security reform. We haven’t won them all. But only the idiot young think that you can win them all.
So if you don’t like the country we’ve left behind, Foxtrot Yankee.
Fact is you don’t know much at all, and I’m done with you. So STFU!.
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
You have
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 7:43PM EDT (link)come unhinged, haven’t we ? I could say the same to you. You know absolutely nothing about me, either. For all you know, I could be lying about myself to you to keep my true self hidden. So if anybody needs to learn not to stick their nose in places they shouldn’t have, its you.
I fought hard to make sure Obama didn’t win, but he won. So why are YOU blaming me for him being the President ? Please, just go away and quit beclowning yourself.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
If I had to guess based on your comments here,
Steph C Tuesday, October 13th at 7:08PM EDT (link)I’d say about 13.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
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Hmm,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 7:12PM EDT (link)thats a lot older than what I thought you’d say.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
The assumption that the GOP is
Steph C Tuesday, October 13th at 6:41PM EDT (link)all a bunch of old white guys.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics
Well gee,
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:51PM EDT (link)if the GOP was full of old white guys, then why am I a Republican ? My assumption for your generation is that you guys stick your head in the sand when a problem arises. Now, if I was mature, I would rephrase that as there were certain members of your generation that sticks their heads in the sand. Too bad, I am just a dumb college kid, My generation is just dumb college kids.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
And you'd be wrong in your assumption.
Steph C Tuesday, October 13th at 6:53PM EDT (link)But don’t let that stop you. I’ve found the thread rather entertaining.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics
So
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 6:57PM EDT (link)have I, Steph C. So have I.
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
G'bye
Neil Stevens Tuesday, October 13th at 10:27PM EDT (link)Comments like this are zero value add, purely trolling.
Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis
Well, I am outta here.
Lelouch Tuesday, October 13th at 7:32PM EDT (link)I still stand by the words of my post. However, in retrospect I should add this disclaimer:
The words of my post are meant for the the people they apply to. If your already doing something, then don’t bother commenting as that post wasn’t refering to you.
I’ll be back later tonight, or not if someone gets his way and gets me banned (which I highly doubt)
The only ones who can kill, are those who are prepared to be killed.
Lelouch, I know you wanted the last word, but....
penguin2 Tuesday, October 13th at 7:42PM EDT (link)as entertaining as you are, try to think about why you are here. Lecturing us will only cause a lot of very smart people to be annoyed. The site is well moderated, and if you happen to get smart alecky with any of them or too many of us, well your time here will be short.
Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.
Benjamin Franklin
All this Lelouch stuff is deja vu to me this week, unfortunately...
larueladue Tuesday, October 13th at 8:42PM EDT (link)We had an “incident” with one of the younger generation in my local dog training club last week, that was eerily similar to the ratings of Lelouch… We “older” people rapidly tired of it, asked for his resignation, and got it. Problem solved, moving on…
I know that you cannot “fire” someone here, and that my little story is mostly irrelevant, but what prompted the comment was the eerily similar sorts of arguments and “conversation” by Lelouch and our guy: lack of ability to answer a single simple question, inability to articulate coherent arguments, inability to listen (read) and coherently respond to others comments and arguments, and just general immaturity in general. And the person in question was a late 20’s professional, with an advanced college degree. It was appalling (and entertaining I am sad to say) to see the “older” generation, some with barely any (high school) education, argue circles around this guy, and he never saw or understood… It made me think more than twice about how his generation will respond when it is their turn, while we were turning him out on his butt…
Hopefully, the “younglings” will live and learn….
“Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.” - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus (Vegetius) in “De Re Militari,” Book III.
Of course people at Redstate can be "fired".
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 13th at 8:47PM EDT (link)Just as Gary.
Make that "just ask"... nt
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 13th at 8:47PM EDT (link)Yeah, I forgot about the blam stick.
larueladue Tuesday, October 13th at 10:41PM EDT (link)That can be pretty permanent…
“Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.” - Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus (Vegetius) in “De Re Militari,” Book III.
Here's a new Lelouch thread, since...
RedBeard Tuesday, October 13th at 10:29PM EDT (link)…the other 15 Lelouch threads are getting pretty full.
Maybe this one could be devoted strictly to giving Lelouch repeated group hugs, in response to what seems to be his desperate cry for attention and his quixotic (and somewhat desperate) quest for relevance.
Oh, and someone toss the poor guy a better shovel. He’s getting blisters trying to dig his hole deeper with that bent garden trowel.
Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
And you have the audacity to refer to yourself as a curmudgeon.
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 13th at 10:33PM EDT (link)At least two of us will take that personally.
Oh and...
mbecker908 Tuesday, October 13th at 10:34PM EDT (link)let the little ditz dig with his bare hands.
Well I'm sure you know that the little putz is no more
Richard Mullins Tuesday, October 13th at 10:52PM EDT (link)He got blammed by Neil. No more having to deal with him.
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