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Why Herman Cain

Some may think that January 2010 may be too early to begin thinking about Presidential candidates, and if you live in Kentucky or Oregon or Georgia you may have a point.  But … I live in SC and SC has the distinction of having not only the “first in the South” primary, but we were also awarded the honor of hosting the 2012 Southern Republican Leadership Conference AND the SCGOP will be hosting the first Republican presidential debate in May.  So we’ve already seen some hopefuls making appearances in SC … Haley Barbour was at Nikki Haley’s inauguration, Rick Santorum was at this weekend’s March for Life in Columbia, and Newt Gingrich was the speaker at last month’s Spartanburg GOP Bronze Elephant event.

However … both Neil King Jr. of the WSJ and Pollster Extraordinaire Scott Rasmussen contend that it will not be one of the well-known names snagging the GOP nomination.

National pollster Scott Rasmussen told members of the Louisiana Association of Business and Industry that the search is on for a candidate to challenge Barack Obama in 2012. “I have no idea who the Republicans will nominate next year,” the keynote speaker at LABI’s annual meeting said.
He surprised some business leaders by saying “it’s not one of the big names” — Sarah Palin, Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty or Newt Gingrich. Instead, he said it will be someone who hasn’t previously been involved in a national campaign but has some national recognition.

South Carolinians will have an extraordinary opportunity to provide a tipping point for some of these candidates by our responses to and interactions with them while they are visiting our state.  Hopefully tea party patriots and liberty group members, as well as GOP voters feel empowered and excited by that responsibility!  To that end … I want to share this video of Herman Cain, who has announced the formation of an exploratory committee, as he schools Bill Clinton the last time around on health care.  When you begin to see Herman interviewed and spoken about as a potential nominee, know that he had it right on health care way back when.

COMMENTS

  • fedsocdan

    8 years of Cain followed by another 8 years of Rubio changes the electoral landscape for generations. During this 16 year reign of glory, the ranks of the Statist judiciary is decimated and we’re back to the Constitutional Republic the Framers had intended. Gosh, if we were really smart…

    It won’t be that hard, really. Levin says 80 years to get back to normal, I say 25. And one of the big reasons why I believe this is due to the fact that the union machines have sealed their own fates. They’ll be largely “defunded” in this decade. Come on Cali, you’re almost there! Come on Illinois, I know you can default! Ahem, so this, coupled with extreme awesomeness of the Precinct Project, insures eventual victory for the good guys much sooner than most could have ever dreamed just a few short years ago.

    Btw, anyone else starting to think Tom Coburn is a Chris Christie? I know, it sucks. Oh well.

    • concap

      So can I.

      I say, if you can convince and convert 75% of the Fiscal/Socials

      • texasgalt
        • concap

          Capitalism, is.
          Socialism without Capitalism, is not.

          People on the left are hoping for Socialism.

          People in the left-right wing (fiscal/social) are hoping for a capitalist economy but a socialist state.

          Either way, neither will exist without capitalism.

          http://www.econ.utah.edu/~mli/Economics%207004/Kotz-Lessons%20from%20the%20Demise%20of%20State%20Socialism.pdf

          • texasgalt

            It’s fundamental (oh, my)

          • http://westforwestwing2012.com heartlander

            In the Jan. 29 issue of WORLD magazine (it’s online right now), there’s a profile of freshman Congressman Tim Huelskamp (KS-1). He sees the total interconnectedness of fiscal and social issues. For example,

            single parenthood, often a result of people “enjoying the fruits of marriage outside of marriage,” is correlated to poverty.

            Family is what it all boils down to, in Huelskamp’s view, even as he feels the urgency of the nation’s fiscal crisis. The two are connected. “Fundamentally it’s about what you value,” he said. “We’ve lost our ways on a lot of fronts. You just can’t spend enough to replace the family.”

            In other words, ignore the “social issues” and you will quickly be in debt past your ears — as indeed we are — with all the government “social services” programs needed to try to patch up the damage.

  • brookhaven

    Why do people talk about Cain’s background as if Godfather’s Pizza is all he ever did?

    He has changed careers at least 4 times (comptuers/information-technology, buisness management, finance–pres. of KC federal reserve, and radio), and he has excelled at all of them.

    When taken as a whole, his life experience is eye popping. Cain isn’t just a smart businessman, he is a smart man period.

    • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

      It is a very very difficult thing to guide a large company successfully into higher growth and profits. Something I daresay that a majority of our elected leaders in both parties could not do.

    • concap

      Elect ability not withstanding.
      concap Tuesday, January 18th at 5:02PM EST (link)

      If one were to make the assumption that governing a company has absolutely zero in common with governing a Nation, than Cain is not ready.
      Now, if one were to make the assumption that governing a company has many things in common with governing a Nation, than one could assume that Cain with all his current attributes, would capitalize on these commonalities and do what

  • edwyrd

    revel his astuteness. his highest priority is, “stop the regulation strangulation”.

    he is the real deal.
    maybe, and i say this carefully, the incarnation and perfect realization of MLKs’ vision for america…

  • concap

    I believe:

    Herman Cain is 100% for the U.S. Constitution as written.

    He is 100% in favor of laissez-faire capitalism.

    He is 100% fiscal.

    He is a Constitutional Capitalist with personal social issue concerns.

    He believes that the closer the Government is ran in a fiscally responsible manor, the less social issues there will be left to take care of.

    He will make a 100% effort to run the Government in the way the Constitution
    intended it to be run.

    The right is now looking for someone who will be fiscally responsible.

    Why settle for someone who is Fiscal/Social and risk the possibility that person splits his/her efforts according to there personal beliefs and not the ones they ran on.

    Why risk ending up with someone like Bush who let his social over ride his fiscal?

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    people who, in effect, killed Hillarycare:

    http://www.newsweek.com/1994/09/18/the-lost-chance.print.html
    (Bolding added.)

    The Clintons would later blame “Harry and Louise,” the fictional couple in the ads aired by the insurance industry, for undermining health reform. But the real saboteurs are named Herman and John. Herman Cain is the president of Godfather’s Pizza and president-elect of the National Restaurant Association. An articulate black entrepreneur, Cain transformed the debate when he challenged Clinton at a town meeting in Kansas City, Mo., last April. Cain asked the president what he was supposed to say to the workers he would have to lay off because of the cost of the “employer mandate.” Clinton responded that there would be plenty of subsidies for small businessmen, but Cain persisted. “Quite honestly, your calculation is inaccurate,” he told the president. “In the competitive marketplace it simply doesn’t work that way.”

    The switchboard at Godfather’s was lit up with supportive calls. It was as if the small business community — a very large and politically powerful group — had been told to march on Washington. Cain, said Larry Neal, an aide to Sen. Phil Gramm, “was the lightning rod.”

    While Cain looks the part of a striving small businessman, John Motley, chief lobbyist for the National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB), looks like, well, a Washington lobbyist. But he’s one of the smarter ones. He understood that the real battle would not be fought on the TV airwaves or at the expense-account restaurants of Washington but back home, in the districts of members of Congress. Motley mobilized thousands of small businessmen, including “the Guardians” (the NFIB’s 40,000 most reliable members), to work their local representatives. Armed with computer files showing pertinent facts — like whether certain members of Congress had kids who worked as waiters in the summer — the NFIB and the restaurant association went after their targets. Rick and Ralph Tevis, owners of Tevis’s Restaurant in Topeka, Kans., talked to one of their regular customers — Rep. Jim Slattery, a member of the Energy and Commerce Committee. Slattery came out against universal coverage.

    The NFIB was also effective in lobbying other lobbying groups. They had small businessmen lean on their doctors — and before long, the AMA, dissed by the Clintons, came out against employer mandates. The NFIB pressured the Chamber of Commerce by urging small businessmen to quit in protest of the chamber’s support of employer mandates. When the chamber’s dues began to drop precipitously, the chamber, too, reversed its position in February. A day before, the Business Roundtable had also slammed the employer mandate.

    Something tells me Herman Cain would also be able to show the American people — in debates with Opuppet — what John McCain either would not or could not do: that Opuppet is a dangerous man with dangerous ideas and how those dangerous ideas, such as socialized medicine, are unconstitutional and destroying America.

    Thank you.

    For Liberty,

    ColdWarrior

  • JSobieski

    There are important positions between private citizen and President.

  • SoFiMil

    as “an articulate black entrepreneur.”

    Wonder if they’ll call themselves on this?

  • E Pluribus Unum

    (a) If find rather strange, unsupportable, and somewhat repugnant your suggestion that (forgive my oversimplifying) you support a brand of “conservatism” that preaches that if the fiscal end is taken care of, the social end sort of takes care of itself.

    I am frankly tired of the “get in the back of the bus” attitude that so many want to show toward socons and social conservatism. That is foolish, short-signted, and just plain rude. The very UNDERPINNING of free market conservatism is freedom, which completely a 100% moral construction.

    (b) I really think you need to study Herman Cain a little closer than you have so far. If you think he’s purely a fiscon with no socon, then you are grossly misinformed.

  • traversecityconservative

    There are only two people who I will spend my time and money on – Palin or Cain. Everyone else, I will vote for but that’s it. I’m not saying that I can’t be convinced or inspired by someone else but I haven’t been so far.

  • draftcain

    Herman went from “0″ name recognition to garnering 27% of the vote in a 3 man race. At that time, Herman had none of the exposure he’s had over the past few years, nor was there the technical infrastructure in place to be able to quickly mobilize and inform people, other than the traditional website and email.

    Herman did utilize some of the elements in his ’04 run. What killed Herman’s campaign was Isakson’s 72 game that involved a particular postcard with misinformation that was designed to create skepticism in the reader’s mind. It was pretty mean, but it worked. Herman only needed 2% more to force a runoff. Between the Georgia Realtor’s Association and the Isakson campaign they spent more than $10,000,000 in marketing.

    At http://DraftCain.org we’ve tapped more than 2,000 individuals, in all 50 states, We’ve teamed up with http://www.Citizens4Cain.com to build a significant ground game that will be effective.

    America needs a bold visionary leader who knows how to get things done. We believe America needs Herman Cain.

  • powertothepeople

    he would still have to go from nearly a zero name recognition level to a high enough level to win. He is more popular and well known now then he was back then, but only in certain circles. As a general rule, he is not a household name with enough recognition to have people considering to vote for him.

    I like Cain, I definitely respect him, his positions, and his accomplishments. I just do not think he can gain enough support to win the republican nomination much less beat Obama. I would be one who seriously considers supporting him should he run, but I do not think he can get himself enough out there to win enough votes.

    But stranger things have happened.

  • aesthete

    Cain is an incredibly intelligent and energetic guy: Bachelors’ in Mathematics, Masters in Comp Sci, Pillsbury VP, CEO of Godfathers’ Pizza, worked as a chairman for the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, etc. Cain knows what conservatism, free enterprise, and the American dream are all about, both intuitively and from an intellectual standpoint. For those of you who have not watched the video linked above, I would encourage you to do so: it really is fantastic, and indicative of the sort of intellectual heft and tenor you want in a President.

    The two dealbreakers for me are that 1) Cain has not been elected to anything (and failed winning the seat he ran for), and 2) he has no executive political experience. Those are two problems which should give one pause: the Presidency is unlike any job in the private sector, both because it entails control of a legitimate use of force, and because it is structured so that the President is not solely in control of the use of force. I trust Cain with the former, but the latter is something that he does not have experience with. I would like to see Erick support Cain for GA Governor, and then see how he does there, before entrusting him with the Presidency (though I certainly see what other conservatives see in him).

    As a side, Clinton is so intelligent and smooth that it’s absolutely astounding: I cannot imagine Obama giving an answer half as good as Clinton did extemporaneously in response to Cain, much less with Clinton’s trademark charm.

  • concap

    If one were to make the assumption that governing a company has absolutely zero in common with governing a Nation, than Cain is not ready.

    Now, if one were to make the assumption that governing a company has many things in common with governing a Nation, than one could assume that Cain with all his current attributes, would capitalize on these commonalities and do what

  • aesthete

    I would say that it is more a gradient than a binary answer, but yes, I would say that the case boils down to how analogous a CEO’s responsibilities are to those of a President. There is some overlap (presenting a good image, handling media, unrolling strategies, general leadership and administrative qualities), but they are not compatible as far as the decision making and deliberation process goes.

  • williamjameson

    This man could beat Obama as his discussion with Clinton is proof the man is well educated and capable of taking on serious candidates. Clinton turned Cain’s question into a joke but clearly Clinton was wrong. One thing you have to remember about voters is once they decide they like someone its hard to convince them that person is wrong, especially when they are wrong.

    Cain is a serious contender with a political background with executive experience. Time and again Obama has proven his lack of executive skills is just one of his Achilles heels.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain
    Cain worked as a mathematician for the Department of the Navy with an undergraduate degree in mathematics and a Master

  • JSobieski

    (1) Clinton was far more willing to get into the details of things than Obama is. Can you even imagine Obama giving an answer that sounded as good as Clinton’s?

    (2) Cain does absolutely rock.

  • LisaDe

    Out of the potential GOP candidates, Herman Cain seems to be the only one who has the potential to truly change the ideals, mindset, political positions and false reliance on the liberal way of thinking. He can bridge a wide gap that some hoped Obama would have done but the informed knew never would. He could raise the hopes and dreams of a certain sector that are now held down and spoon fed entitlements to insure more Dem votes. He believes in and he lives the American Dream and he is all too happy to go out and raise his voice in defense of Freedom and Exceptionalism.

    The country has relied on inside Politicians, with their shiny political words, their limelight and their swelling egos on display in technicolor on TV. They are all the same. I donated to Mr. Cain today because I would like America to see and hear him and to know his name. I want him to run. And if he doesn’t make it to the big election, well then, at least a common man with all the right mojo was given the opportunity. Lets help him get his name out there.

  • concap

    What would you say to teaming him up with someone who has been there done that.

    Someone like Gingrich. Like! Him, not him.
    Someone who knows how to watch his back till he learns how things work.

    Have all prior VP

  • brookhaven

    There have been a number of presidents that did not hold political office prior to becoming president.

    There is the famous quote from Harry Truman about how Eisenhower would take office, start giving orders left and right, and nobody would follow them (implying that Ike didn’t have the right kind of experience to be president). Ike turned out to be a very effective president, despite not having a background in politics.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Herman Cain: The UnMcCain.

    McCain for President

    As there’s no preview function, I hope that what I wrote above appears as McCain with a strikeout through the “Mc.”

    I’ve saved my McCain/Palin stickers. I think I’ll modify them to:

    McCain/Palin

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Alas, it did not.

    But, at least it worked in the body!

    McCain/Palin 201012

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

  • acat

    … and it’s very tempting to “recycle” it as you suggest.

    Just need to find a blue Sharpie….

    Mew

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    I hope some of them will use their skills and dazzle us with a few possible Cain for President” bumper stickers and campaign logos that recycle the 2010 McCain and McCain/Palin stickers and logos.

    Hint, hint.

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

  • concap

    one made that said Palin/McCain and had it on my car till the election.

    After the election I had one made that just said Palin 2012 and it

  • lineholder

    “It’s the real thing” that Coke used years ago?

    I’d love to see graphic depicting Cain as “the real thing” in comparison to Obama.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Thanks again,

    ColdWarrior

  • http://westforwestwing2012.com heartlander
  • brookhaven

    In today’s internet age, Cain would become a national figure quickly enough. Honestly, other than Romney and Palin, most of the GOP hopefuls are regional figures that have zero recognition outside of their state.

    The story of Cain’s early life would provide a clear contrast to the “victum culture” that liberals want to foist on blacks. Cain graduated high school dirt poor in Atlanta in the early 1960′s (right in the middle of the civil rights movement). Rather than look to the government to make all things right, he focused on getting and education, hard work, and taking advantage of the doors being opened to blacks by the civil rights movement.

    Contrast that with Obama’s community organizer vision of how minorities should get ahead (or should I say, can’t get ahead without government handouts).

  • brookhaven

    There is a good comparison between Cain’s and Romney’s life experiences here: http://munydews.blogspot.com/ .

    The major difference between the two is Romney held political office for four years, and Cain hasn’t. But what it points out is that Romney’s time in office was a disaster in a number of areas (not just RomneyCare). That’s why he didn’t run for a 2nd term (he only had a 30% approval rating at the end of his first term).

    How does Romeny being elected once to political office (and screwing up big time in office) make him “qualifed” to be president, but Cain (with a similar background) unqualified?

  • concap
  • aesthete

    A successful term as GA Gov would show whether Cain is or not.

  • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com Beaglescout

    Has plenty of negative associations but can be used somehow. I haven’t figured out quite how yet.

    Thinking… thinking…

  • concap

    Cain. However I don

  • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com Beaglescout

    The Mark of Cain was on Cain after he slew his brother Abel.