I mean, I understand the definition as it relates to the blogosphere; I just don’t understand the purpose. I’m not new to reading blogs and comments; however, I am new to commenting.
I joined the NRCC on Facebook when I got home from the Redstate Gathering. Just now, I received an update from them on Facebook about “targeting 70 democratic seats.” This interested me so I followed the link. The comments are horrible. There is nothing even remotely intellectual in the comments.
While I understand the perceived dangers of moderating comments too closely, this is a farce. Intelligent discussion is one thing but a pure disruption of the comment section is something else entirely. This disgusted me.
So, why does this exist?
Lefty trolls are BETTER than you.
Trelaina Tuesday, August 4th at 10:55AM EDT (link)They are smarter, better looking and yet somehow don’t get sore necks from straining to look down on you from their pedestals.
We, in their eyes, are worthless children playing around where we don’t belong.
So, adding their SO smart little talking points, insults and other trollish nonsense is perfectly okay.
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A study of those banned/blammed from here over the four years
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, August 4th at 11:33AM EDT (link)I have been here would reveal very little consistent application of any principles when the comments of the blammed and reasons given for said blamming are compared with those that regularly post here and aren’t blammed.
imho
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"pure disruptions" of the conversation are not within the power of any one person called a troll
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, August 4th at 11:35AM EDT (link)One can always choose to ignore them.
My method is to make the substantive case against their allegations so as to educate lurkers and then to ignore if they persist with asking the same question over and over.
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My preferred method is to force feed the truth into their starving bellies...
Aaron Gardner Tuesday, August 4th at 11:39AM EDT (link)and then kick them to the curb if they don’t thank me for it…;^)
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Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, August 4th at 11:51AM EDT (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
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You just contradicted yourself, GC
Neil Stevens Tuesday, August 4th at 11:57AM EDT (link)You just admitted that you let trolls manipulate you. You feel compelled to reply to them, to ‘educate’ them, despite the fact that they’re not here in good faith and aren’t going to be persuaded.
THAT is why they are able to make a disruption. People like you are suckered into taking them at face value and arguing with them all day about whatever they want to argue about.
That’s why trolls win, that’s why I’m a pain about threadjacks, and that’s why I let the blamstick fire like the cannons on the light brigade.
Theirs is not to question why. Theirs is but to post and die.
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Not really. When I said "trolls", I meant those that the Powers that Be
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, August 4th at 12:29PM EDT (link)identify as such. But I don’t see it as manipulation to rebut false arguments and try to persuade lurkers that may think the same as the “troll” to change their minds. I have been winning converts in this way, whether here at RS or cocktail parties in the 90s. Sometimes people will come up to me months and years later and tell me that I had that effect.
Now, of course, some come here with nefarious intentions, but I just try respond to the actual words on the page whether from a regular or a newbie.
Of course, I am for banning thise that use profanity or spam and after a long long time persist in asking the same question over and over and over but when it comes to the use of certain words or phrases, I don’t favor blamming or not blamming over the use of the same phrase based on longevity or credibility.
Moreover, many of those blammed are blammed for liberal talking points that we all see as ridiculous, but many not trolls lurk here and have been fed those talking points, and many can and are won over when they finally here a logical refutation of same. That is what i seek to do.
But as I have said over and over, I do pretend to understand the policy here in the way it has been applied, and being all about winning people over to conservatism to win elections so we can save this country, I will continue to do so till I take my last breath at all venues where I am welcome, and it has been a special joy of my life to have discovered Redstate soon after my conservative epiphany earlier this decade as I have made many great friends here on and off the site and my prominence at Redstate is primarily responsible for the fact that I am a conservative voice at three major newspapers and have been published in the WSJ, NYT and on Instapundit, Hugh Hewitt, etc.
I am grateful.
God bless
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5 x 5. It makes sense to refute a troll or an honest mistaken argument logically
David123 Tuesday, August 4th at 7:13PM EDT (link)Even if you don’t convert the “troll” you may enlighten someone who is just following the dialog.
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thx David123 - nt
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I tried looking a the classical internet definition
Richard Mullins Tuesday, August 4th at 11:40AM EDT (link)at Netlingo. It might help you to understand what a troll is.
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Classic definitions bear no relation to the application of the term
Mike gamecock DeVine Tuesday, August 4th at 11:52AM EDT (link)here, based on my four year study
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Then we have a special type of Troll here
Richard Mullins Tuesday, August 4th at 11:54AM EDT (link)I’ve seen plenty of them, these do take the cake.
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Disruption
Skanderbeg Tuesday, August 4th at 12:27PM EDT (link)That’s actually a difficult question, Kelly - and there really isn’t one single reason for them.
As others have noted, some just have too much time on their hands and come over to just show off their self-perceived intellectual superiority. (Never underestimate the amount of chaos that can be caused by stupid people who fancy themselves smart.)
But the main theme is probably disruption - since that’s a specialty of the other side. It’s the same kind of crud you see with creeps who stand up during speeches and just shout and yell - it doesn’t serve any other purpose than to be disruptive (and display “genuine anger” which to that lot actually means something).
And from what’s sometimes happened with the comments in some of my pieces, they seem to send people in to deposit stuff in the comments mainly to try to interfere with the author’s narrative. This seems to be defensive in nature; they’re worried that some of their less-solid folks - who may be “questioning” :O - might wander in and get a good education which will “convert” them; thus, they drop in their propaganda b.s. to try to keep those folks in line and on the(ir) reservation.
Just my experienced $0.02 worth….
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kellymch Tuesday, August 4th at 1:57PM EDT (link)Thanks for what you wrote. I wasn’t talking about Redstate comments really. I was talking about the comment section on an article about the NRCC.
Disruption makes the most sense. I just wonder why. And who would waste their time like that? I enjoy reading all views. I often wonder what makes people reach the decisions that they do. I realize that I have a completely different worldview than people who are on the “other side.” But to go to a comments section on an article about the NRCC targeting 70 democratic seats and finding all kinds of vitriol and name-calling….just WOW.
Wouldn’t gambling on ESPN.com be more fun?
Disruption
Skanderbeg Tuesday, August 4th at 10:35PM EDT (link)Sorry for messing up my communications - it does happen sometimes.
I was thinking generally about the wide world of comment sections; due to policy and aggressive policing, RS tends to keep things sane.
Some people have ego problems, or need-to-preen-my-moral-superior problems, or just like to argue.
But always keep in mind that these things aren’t just between the commenters - they stay around and amount to archival material.
That’s why I’m sure that people are “sent in” to leave t*rds in diaries in here for example - so that if/when someone stumbles in, they will be forced to read the drivel that the trolls deposit. It’s a way of keeping their own side onside so to speak, methinks.
Trust fund babies
Right_Again Tuesday, August 4th at 7:42PM EDT (link)have all the time in the world to spend daddy’s money. It’s funny how many of them appear to have no job, no life and no clue.