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Palin And Perry Running

By: keven (Diary)  |  August 22nd, 2011 at 06:38 PM  | 

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Palin running will help the Conservatives and Perry. First, anybody think the debates will be more watched with her in them. This will give Perry an opportunity to impress these new eyes that he otherwise would not have had. Also, she will help draw fire from the media away from Perry. Similar to what she did in the 2010 election. It wasn’t until a few weeks before that election the Dems realised maybe they should be going after Boehner instead of Palin. But by then, it was too late.

Secondly, she will be another voice going after Obama. The more doing this, the merrier. She will also make Perry more electable. That can’t effectively say Palin…… and Bachmann…… and Paul…….. and Perry are ALL unelectable. Or Palin…… and Bachmann……. and Paul……. and Perry are all extremists. Her running dilutes these arguments against Perry. And trust me, they will eventually start saying Perry is unelectable. They are already saying he is an extremist.

Thirdly, if Perry and Romney end up as the front runners, anybody think she would endorse Romney? Finger in the wind Romney? After South Carolina or Florida, if she is behind she can finish off Romney with her endorsement if that is the scenario.

Fourthly, from what I have seen so far, Perry needs to be sharpened up a bit. A good primary campaign with tough competition will be good for Perry and help prepare him for Obama.

Fifthly, wouldn’t a Palin grass roots organization be hugely beneficial to Perry or whoever the Republican nominee is in the general election? If she doesn’t run, it won’t be there.

Finally, Romney has been gradually fading in the polls for months, now down in the teens. Romney has already lost 5-7 points in the last 3 months. He won’t be the nominee if Palin and Perry both run. Once Romneycare goes full tilt in the national discussion, Romney will fade further.

The more conservatives in the primary the better. What do we do if Perry combusts? What if a scandal happens? Or he is a much worse campaigner then you think? Or he gets sick? What is your conservative option then? Why not let Palin potentially rehab her image by running and be a conservative option?

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  • http://www.pointofdebate.blogspot.com psu145

    I think Sarah is great, but I don’t want her to run now. In my opinion all it will do is hand the job to Romney as Palin/Perry/Bachmann split the conservative vote and the RINO vote wins again as it did in 2008. I don’t believe Sarah takes as many votes from Perry as Romney. Not for a second.

    Please Sarah, don’t run. I still have misguided hopes Bachmann can win and give us two blue states in Minnesota and Iowa.

    Stop by my blog and give me some feedback. www.pointofdebate.blogspot.com

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  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    As many have pointed out here at RedState and elsewhere, Sarah has no path to victory. So much of the opposition to Sarah has become so hard-wired that there no campaign action on her part that will change it.

    Meanwhile, increasing the point spread between Romney and the next candidate (due to fragmenting of conservative supporters) will strengthen Romney’s position. I don’t see any evidence that he is “fading” at present, unfortunately.

    I’d much rather have Sarah mobilizing conservatives (and thereby positioning for an appointment in the new administration) than having her in the race.

    That doesn’t mean that we should go all in for Perry, at least not until he’s been tested for several weeks or more. But Sarah is not the “insurance policy” we’d want.

  • kinghenry

    if she went that route, she could probably guarantee Perry’s nomination if she came out now and endorsed him.

  • http://www.usdebateboard.com usdebateboard

    I mean, besides Maxine Waters telling the Tea Party to go to hell, where is the intractable opposition from people who would not support the GOP candidate, anyway?

    Name names.

  • conservativecurmudgeon

    Palin could:

    1) Run for the nomination, WIN the nomination, and beat Barack Obama in the General Election.

    Polls, name recognition, and all the rest of this minutae means nothing until there is one actual nominee against this incredibly weak, radical, incompetent, ideological, disastrous, President.

    The Presidential campaign doesn’t really start until over a year from now. The rest is optics, atmospherics, theater, and sport.

    Which is why it is absolutely CRUCIAL we select as our nominee not someone the Establishment Operatives say “can win”, but one that will govern as a rock-solid, no-nonsense, pursuasive tradtional Constitutional conservative. It will take this sort of a person to chisel out all the damage this President has done, and it can’t be done with a squish. Period. Which is why Sarah CAN win, and must win… just as Perry CAN win and must win, and Bachmann CAN win, and must win, and Cain CAN win and must win…

    You get the point…

  • keven

    Here is the evidence that Romney is fading. The RCP average of polling on July 4th had Romney at 25.0. He is now at 20.2. A drop of 5 points. And the last 3 polls average was 18.7. Romney is fading, check the downward starecase for yourself …

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

    As for the concept that it is imposible to change the perception Palin has with the public, this might be true. However, most of the reasons people say they won’t vote for her are that she is stupid, not serious, and inexperienced. All 3 of those reasons will fade if she runs a strong campaign and wins the nomination. Name me the last nominee of a party that lost a general election for ANY of those three reasons. It has never happened because if you win your parties nomination you must be a serious person, you have to be intelligent, and the process it self gives you the perception of experience. Ask Obama about the 3rd factor.

    Not saying its certain, just saying things can change in politics and running a strong campaign and winning a party nomination changes things.

    Finally, about a month ago, one of the polls showed that she took as many votes from Romney as Perry. Personally, I think this won’t be the case in the long run or maybe even now. But that is what the poll said. Maybe I can find that poll. I will look for it.

  • onemovoter

    making an announcement to run anytime soon. IF AT ALL.

    She still has her Foxnews gig. Newt and Mike had Fox pressuring them to drop from Foxnews way ahead of time before making any announcement. Newt left permanently and Huck went back to his show. Foxnews just reported that there will be a big announcement BY Sarah Palin, on Sept 3 at the Tea Party rally, which isn’t that far off.

    Sarah has also signed up with Glenn Beck for his Oct 7 rally for the Republic event. I don’t see a declared candidate signing ahead of time for an event with someone that the left would absolutely bash Sarah as being with someone so “divisive” even though we all know he isn’t.

    Nov 22 is the absolute deadline to get in for all of the primaries and Caucasus. If she were to drag out her getting in till then, I think most casual supporters will get tired of waiting and move to another candidate that is already in. You can only drag people along for so long before they give up on you.

    Given some of the interesting clues she has left in her Facebook writings, I am with Erick in the “I’ll believe it when I see it” crowd. I just hope her supporters don’t go off the deep end if she gives her support to someone else rather than run herself.

  • keven

    I found 1 poll that has her taking 4 more points from Romney then Perry. But it was over a month old and I don’t think it was the poll I saw. Here it is anyway…..

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postabcpoll_071711.html

  • azaeroprof

    This is what baffles me about Palin and the gang of “RedState Anklebiters.” If mbecker & co are so sure that Palin is dumb, inarticulate, and incredibly disliked, then as a candidate she would fall flat on her face, make Perry et al look good in comparison, and no longer be a major player on the national stage. So why do they feel the need to repeat the same anti-Palin talking points over and over again?

    Also, I find it amusing that the same people who argue that head-to-head polling is meaningless at this early date (which I agree with) are very quick to use Rasmussen’s poll showing Palin trailing Obama 33-50 as evidence she can’t win and shouldn’t run.

  • http://www.gmsplace.com/ civil truth

    I admire Sarah as a polemicist and mobilizer

    Would these “reasonable people” ever support a GOP candidate. I don’t know for sure. But if they utterly reject the GOP candidate out of hand, then they won’t listen to the message either – and the consequences of that are much larger than the outcome of a single race.

    In other words, beyond the outcome of an important political race, we’re trying to start the process of changing people’s thinking process, which in the longer run is vitally important if we’re actually going to change the direction of our country beyond a single election cycle or so.

  • Toby Calvert-Lee

    And that is all she will ever serve as. If she runs, she would need organization, which she has none of. So I think she would lose early on and endorse Perry

  • http://www.usdebateboard.com usdebateboard

    n/t

  • http://www.usdebateboard.com usdebateboard

    and we find out.

    What are we afraid of?

  • http://www.usdebateboard.com usdebateboard

    like “kingmaker” which implies you can turn her so-called political toxicity on and of like a switch or aim it like that carnival squirt gun game.

  • gekster

    They kow only how to devoure.
    Smell blood in the sand, and strike.
    That goes for the sand guppy (ruexperienced) also.

  • GregInFla

    who voted against Palin by voting for Obama, and see now what they got. Might they now say: “Let’s see what Palin will do. We know how bad Obama was.” ?