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John McCain Should Be Ashamed

He is going to destroy Joe the Plumber

By: kowalski (Diary)  |  October 16th, 2008 at 02:51 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

John McCain made a point of singling out an individual in last night’s debate and I think he’s just guaranteed that that person is going to be completely and utterly destroyed, along with his family.

Everyone knows Joe the Plumber by now, and the New York Times is running an article about everything about him and his family. It’s really wrong to mention someone in a debate when you know they’re going to get drawn and quartered by the press as a result.

The knives are out for Joe the Plumber, and it was a mistake for McCain to single him out.

John McCain should never have mentioned this man. He not only didn’t help his case, he has destroyed him in the process.

McCain lost last night’s debate, by the way. I haven’t chimed in until now, but I shut it off after the first hour because McCain was wrecking himself. He was erratic and unprepared, because he still harbors illusions about himself about being the middle of the road in this country, but he’s wrong.

Back to the drawing board, folks. Try to live through the next four years.

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  • janis

    Don’t expect any recommends. Many of us are not willing to just roll over and hope for the best while preparing for the worst.

    Many of us are still in the fight–why have you given up so fast?

  • c17wife

    Oe the plumber has put himself out there. He’s doing interviews, impropmtu pressers, what not. The guy will be fine. And the left attacks him at their own peril.

    As for you, keep it to yourself if you can’t be positive. I had high hopes for you this AM, but not any more.

    Unrecommend.

  • kowalski

    And now he’s a target. He should at the very least have refrained from mentioning him. He’s put this guy in the spotlight and now his whole livelihood is in jeopardy.

  • janis

    so keep your disapproval to yourself. Your former liberal self is speaking, not the conservative one. Joe’s no victim, he’s a middle class working stiff who chose to stand up for what he believes–which shows more courage than those who profess to believe in principles and then lay them down when it looks too hard to live by them.

  • awtherfrd

    n/t

  • Dave_in_Fla

    Joe is much more likely to be looked back at as the turning point that led McCain to victory.

    And I’m pretty confident that Joe is going to be just fine. His Youtube segment had plenty of views prior to McCain’s comment. And now he will have an even longer moment of fame.

    For the record, I got an email from the McCain Florida operation this morning, and they have set up a hotline for other “Joe’s” to call in with their stories.

    The more the left attacks this guy, the more McCain is going up in the polls.

  • kowalski

    He used the guy to make a simple point about wealth redistribution that he should have been able to make himself. I was disgusted that McCain couldn’t stand up for himself without using Joe the Plumber to mention why Barack Obama’s tax plan is wrongheaded.

    Instead he put this guy up in front of him and now he’s getting slammed. McCain isn’t going to get slammed: Joe the Plumber is.

  • JSobieski

    nt

  • Tim_Schieferecke

    Joe will be just fine. If I were him, I’d move to Texas, Utah or somewhere in the common sense midwest and start his plumbing business right now. He’s getting all kinds of free advertising right now on Rush and Sean et. al. . He needs to strike while the fires hot. This is an opportunity for him, not a hindrance.

  • kowalski

    I hope this wasn’t the stupidest thing John McCain ever did — by singling out this guy and having the New York Times feature him on the front page so he can have his house blown up.

    So far from what I’ve seen people want to boil him in oil on the Left, and this guy is probably going to need some help.

  • JSobieski

    If Joe is “destroyed” I think we can find plenty of people willing to start a company called “That Joe Guy, LLC” and everything will turn out fine.

    Dems mention their annectdotal stories all the time. What you propose is unilateral surrender.

  • radar9597

    Joe, speaks up….Macain references this exchange….the Left is out to ruin Joe….so it is Macains fault…..just like lib to pass of the responsiblity.

  • teegolfer

    John should makea public apology to Ms. Delores Alfond ? Chair National Alliance of Families for the denigrating language you directed to her during the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. Check out his many video on Youtube that represent his anger.

  • shooflyguy68

    to the point that it became more of a gimmick than anything. Today Joe is likely to lose his livelihood for a while until he gets licensed to work in Toledo and the whole country knows he hasn’t paid his taxes in the past. I’m not sure how a tax dodging man who doesn’t bother to follow local law by getting a license is much of a hero. I agree with Kowalski. McCain could have made the point about income redistribution without bringing up Joe over and over.

  • blooch

    As C17wife said, “the left attacks him at their own peril.” Joe can take it, because Americans still root for the underdog, and Obama’s minions tend to go over the top in situations like this.

    What Americans don’t do anymore is fear the camera, and by extension, the media. Years of “reality” shows, cheap video cameras amd now cell-phone cameras have cured our culture of stage fright. Nobody looks uncomfortable in front of the camera anymore. We all mug for it now and hope for our 15 minutes. Joe’s getting his, and he and his family won’t be permanently traumatized; they know how this game is played. You can pity Joe and scold McCain, as long as you help vote Obama off the show.

  • securitymom

    Joe isn’t saying who he is voting for.

    cough although he did just bring up Ayers name on Cavuto, and said John McCain was an American hero.

    By the way this was his SECOND interview with Neil Cavuto…the first one PRIOR to the debate.

    just saying…

  • kowalski

    McCain promised that he was going to take it to Barack Obama last night and instead what he did was prop up Joe the Plumber, who is now on his way to being discredited by the New York Times and the Plumber’s Brotherhood.

    John McCain stood this guy up last night and apparently he’s still living in the fantasy world where the long knives don’t exist for everything and everyone he references.

    He was wrong to put him in that position, on a number of levels. When Obama smirked at the mention of his name it’s because Obama knew that all the research had already been done on the guy. There was no surprise there, except for this schlub who is now going to have to watch his back for the rest of his life.

  • securitymom

    Joe seems to enjoy getting his 15 minutes of fame.

    By the way…unlike you…I think Joe will be just fine. I have faith that the “Joe’s” of the world can handle the liberal media.

  • David_Hinz

    when she was good she was very, very good, but when she was bad she was awful.

    I don’t know what debate you were watching, but we were watching Sen McCain scoring points on issue after issue. I would have loved to see him hit harder, but I could FEEL Americans running to their computers and GOOGLING Ayers and ACORN and Joe the plumber.

    He set in motion a fundamental change in this campaign….

  • Jaded

    on Neil Cavuto etc before McCain even used is name…..if you don’t like McCain fine BUT find something else to beat up on him about this is just silly~!

  • MrMosis

    At any rate- the responsibility for the potential repercussions rests with first the drive-bys, and secondly with Joe.

    To whatever degree McCain is responsible, well lets just say his responsibility quotient is completely usurped by that of the media. Particularly in light of the fact that Joe has been putting himself out there- including prior to the debate.

    This might offend some- but too bad because it is as true as true can be. To put primary responsibility for Joe’s problems on McCain is like blaming the targeted terrorist killings for retaliatory bus or market suicide bombings. You gots the wrong onus!

  • MrSandman

    cause everyone is tripping over themselves to hire an unlicensed plumber.

    I’m sure the guys who actually fulfilled the apprentice requirements and took the exam will be thrilled to toss Joe all their extra work….all that construction going on and all.

    LOL

    You folks are too much sometimes.

    The desperation is demeaning to our party and our candidate. This is the stuff that makes the GOP look stupid.

  • Illinicon

    saying you dont need a license to do residential plumbing in OH. If the Faux Messiah and his 12 disciples (ABC, CBS, CNN, Daily Kos, Huffpo, LA Times, Moveon, MSNBC, Newsweek, NY Times, Time, and The Washington Post) keep attacking him it is going to back fire big time. Do you think people are going to vote for a guy that is going attack you personally if you just ask a fair policy question? It will start to sink in with people that this guy acts and talks like a Communist.

  • GregInFla

    Joe will be fine. He has many more friends looking out for him now, maybe even a law-enforcement shadow. (And lead pipes can be dangerous to one’s health.) My wife and I were going to see McCain tomorrow, and we were trying to come up with our own Joe question, but one that would give McCain a chance to say something good.

  • Putter

    has precious little to do with competence in many fields. Driving vehicles, practicing law, etc. Plumbing is not rocket science. Hot goes on the left, cold on the right, crap goes downhill. the rest is minutia.

  • Jaded

    recommended the one to HELP Joe out because the reality is Conservatives want to be able to CHOOSE whom they help with their dollars and NOT the Federal Government.

    Joe did indeed bring it on himself BUT let me say I would have taken that same opportunity to show Obama’s true Socialism if I had been asked to ask him a question and so would have you and WE would have had every skeleton in our and our families lives brought up so the media wing of the Democrat party can protect their Messiah!