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I’m A-Switchin’

I’m taking advantage of the fact that as Kowalski, who on Redstate founded the concept of making long, extemporaneous comments to oneself, I’m allowed occasionally to also write a two or three sentence post as a diary entry.  It’s short and sweet:

I’ve changed my mind.  I’m supporting Newt Gingrich over Romney for President.  It’s taken me a long time to come to this decision but all the events of the past week have changed my mind.  We need someone in office who will really help keep the momentum built with so much sweat and tears over the last two years moving forward. 

So there it is, for now.  I’ll have a longer post later explaining the change of mind, and it’s despite what I think are Newt’s legitimate flaws.  On the balance Romney’s flaws are more serious, it’s just taken me some time to come to that conclusion.

I don’t feel too badly about doing it because, let’s face it, my advocacy for Romney here has been kind of halfhearted and tepid at best.  And I haven’t given either of them any money (yet).  In the end, it really has come down to thinking hard about the people who have worked so diligently in the past several years to reinvigorate the Conservative movement in this country.  To be honest with myself I have to stand with them. 

Newt Gingrich for President!  Seriously.

COMMENTS

  • bluerose75

    Thank you for seeing that major flaws with a man that spent the majority of his life as a liberal and then trying to co-op the conservative mantle. Newt does have flaws and I agree he needs to be reminded that true conservatism wins not trying to be all for all. Romney is flipped and flopped all over the place. It is embarrassing even Rudy Guiliani the other day it is impossible to keep up with all the positions Mitt has held!! Pro-abortion, now Pro-life, Pro-Gun Control, now supports NRA, Pro-Socialized Medicine, now I will repeal Obamacare, Life-long supporting liberals…now Reagan’s biggest fan, Left Leaning Judges, now strict Constitutionalists on the bench…I mean it goes on and on and on.

    There is no core in this man! At least Obama is liberal at his core and he acts like it. Romney stands for NOTHING!! He becomes whatever and whenever and when a candidate has to spend millions to reshape his image and political beliefs than there is a serious problem. Like Rush says strongly held conservative beliefs that are articulated well can defeat tons of money. Romney has no strong conservative beliefs and he certainly has spent the money on his Cover Girl make-up!!

    • Leon H. Wolf

      And my post is rank quackery from an establishment liberal? You’re a clown.

      By the way, I have 100% trust in Kowalski’s honesty and this comment should not be construed as an attack on it whatsoever.

      • Finrod

        Gee, I didn’t see bluerose75 say one word about you or your post, Leon. So why are you interpreting that post as an attack on you?

        You’re the one that chose to endorse the lying suckweasel named Mitt Romney, after all; no one twisted your arm.

        • Leon H. Wolf

          Read the comments to my post.

        • Locke

          bluerose75 made in Leon H, Wolf’s last diary Romney Over Newt. Except that “quackery” does not appear in the comments.

          • Leon H. Wolf

            Always a good reason to use the word “quackery”

          • Darin_H

            But I also voted this morning. For Romney.

            I’m just glad my part (in voting) is over until Nov. I went from Pawlenty to Perry to Newt to undecided the last 2 weeks to actually considering Ron Paul as a protest vote to Romney this morning.

          • APA Guy

            Just can’t do it…the guy is far too liberal for me and I don’t trust a word he says.

          • gfrgfr

            There can be no doubt that if the Establishment Republicans had insisted on a level playing field Newt would be far ahead of Willard The Rat. If the contest had been fair and Willard The Rat had won I would have supported him.

            They didn’t, and I won’t.

            We need to get rid of the RINOs in the Republican party before we go after the dummycrats or it doesn’t matter what happens in the elections – they will govern the same way the dummycrats do.

          • Darin_H

            Not voting for the Republican nominee makes you one.

            Enjoy.

          • http://www.firstchevalier.com Mark Malcolm

            Just because he doesn’t want to compromise his principles for a limp-wristed establishment-backed candidate anymore doesn’t make him or anyone else a RINO. It makes him principled.

            I had this very internal monologue going on and ultimately I concluded that four more years of Hopey McChange the healthcare clown would destroy this country.

            I’m not supporting Romney now for reasons others have mentioned here, but I will back him against BHO if he’s the nominee because my children require me to stuff my high principles down my throat so they’ll have some opportunity in ten years.

          • Darin_H

            But that is because it isn’t what he said.

          • kowalski

            “Take a few relaxing steps to the south of Spain for a decadent Andalusian milk bath in our deep soaking tubs. Then, experience a new level of full body luxury with a friend or loved one precious gemstone-infused oil and ease muscle tension and stress with diamond massage oil for her and sapphire gemstone oil for him. This treatment is complete with a glass of Spanish wine for both you and your partner to enjoy. 90 Minutes”

            Heh.

          • kowalski

            And who in the world could have guessed the outcome of the endorsement?

            http://www.trumpchicagohotel.com/Trump_Spa/couples_treatment.asp

          • demsaresatanic

            when Mitt does not return her affections. Ms. Coulter is smitten now, but Mitt will come to regret her affections, as he will, btw, those of Mr. Trump. One arrogant multi-millionaire who enjoys firing people endorsing another won’t help Mitt much.

          • kegan05

            Why would anyone who professes to be a Conservative support Newt Gingrich? Newt is on YouTube Video describing himself as a “Wilsonian Progressive,” and a “Progressive Republican.” Anyone who has done any reading on the Woodrow Wilson era knows that a “Wilsonian Progressive” is NOT a Conservative.

            Furthermore, on the same Video, Newt declares that our sacred Constitution is OBSOLETE! What?? Really? This is not a Conservative idea. Comrade Obozo says the same thing!

            Newt criticizes Mitt Romney for being a flip-flopper but he has done some major flip-flops. Unbeliev able!

            Here is the link, if you can stand an hour of Newt:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?f…

            There are many Video’s with Newt bloviating and it proves what a conflicted, undisciplined person he is. No thank you. We need someone who is more stable to lead this nation. Newt is not the guy.

          • demsaresatanic

            or does it just come naturally? Always with the sound-bite of Newt not sounding conservative, never a mention of Newt’s voting record when he was in Congress ( down the line solid conservative) and of course never, ever, a mention of Romney’s record as Gov. Have you ever heard of actions speak louder than words? Of course you have, that’s why you never dare speak about Romney’s pure Rino record in Mass.

            When you have a record to be proud of, you run on it. When you have nothing but cheap talk, you try to tear the other guy down.

          • kegan05

            Newt Gingrich a Conservative? I don’t think so!

            In the 1990′s Newt Gingrich endorsed and wrote the Forward for a book by Alvin and Heidi Toffler entitled “Creating a New Civilization.” The book called for our governing system to “die and be replaced.”

            Newt thinks our Constitution is Obsolete! That sounds like Comrade Obozo who also called for the “fundamental transformation of America.”

            No thank you. There are many, many video’s on YouTube of Newt Gingrich bloviating about being a ‘Progressive and a “Rockefeller Republican” as well as a “Wilsonian Progressive.” Anyone thinking
            about supporting this character should read up on his background and what he truly believes. It is frightening.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XLIPtCXy8

            This is just one link….There are dozens.

          • demsaresatanic

            posting the same Newt-bashing over and over, on multiple threads, no less. You are the real deal.

          • http://www.firstchevalier.com Mark Malcolm

            N/T

      • scottishjew

        I didnt read one persuasive reason to vote for Romney in your post. Only that he was a governor. You ignored the fact Romney was a liberal governor who passed Romneycare.

        Romney’s not even a Republican. And Republicans who vote for him are not paying attention or are liberal/moderate Republicans.

        If I voted for Lenin, I’d be a socialist.

    • kegan05

      Dear Speaker Gingrich:

      I would like to get your explanation of the content of several YouTube Video’s that show you describing yourself as a Progressive Republican and a “Wilsonian Progressive.” I am confused because you profess now to be a Reagan Conservative. Curious. Everyone who has studied the Woodrow Wilson era knows that a “Wilsonian Progressive” is NOT a Conservative.

      You also baffled me when you stated on these Video’s that our sacred Constitution is “obsolete.” What did you mean by that? Comrade Obozo has said the same thing! This idea is NOT embraced by most Reagan Conservatives. They revere our Constitution and think it is the most perfect Document every conceived by man. Explain to me why you feel it is “obsolete,” please.

      I also need to know how you can declare so firmly that you are the only REAL Conservative, a Ronald Reagan Conservative, in the race for President. Could it be simple hyperbole or something more sinister, like a LIE? I am really baffled by your fluctuation in ideologies over the years. Quite a drastic change. And yet you have criticized Governor Romney for his “flip-flops.”

      Of course these are all rhetorical questions because I know you will never give me a satisfactory answer. Maybe you have seen the light? Or maybe you are just an Opportunist who grabbed hold of “lightning in a bottle” and rode it out as far as it would take you.

      Oh well, as long as you don’t worm your way into our nation’s highest office under false pretense, I don’t have a problem with it. I really don’t think that is going to happen, do you?

      Sincerely,
      A REAL Reagan Conservative

  • ptamom

    I am deeply concerned about what I believe to be the misrepresentation of Romney as a conservative and as a moderate Republican in the current presidential race.

    The stark difference between Romney’s views now and his record as Governor of Massachusetts should give us pause.

    As a PTA mom from Maryland and a Republican volunteer in our county, I have followed Massachusetts politics via email news from www.MassResistance.org since the 2003 court redefinition of marriage in Massachusetts. Living in a “blue” state with 2 children in public schools, I have been concerned about the impact of the redefinition of marriage on public schools.

    In their comprehensive report of Romney?s record entitled, “The Mitt Romney Deception”, the grass roots pro-family group Mass Resistance states “Indeed, this report will demonstrate that Romney was probably the most pro-abortion and pro-gay rights Republican official in the nation for the last decade.” The evidence is carefully documented by newspaper accounts with all sources listed at the end of their report.

    Romney’s record as Governor in Masschusetts from 2003-2007 and his actions while a presidential candidate have not shown a committment to good government and have shown a willingness to exert undue influence on the media in my opinion. We are so in need of good leadership to take on the politically motivated decisions that harm so many Americans and benefit only a few. I do not feel that Romney’s record as Governor indicates a willingness to govern in that way.

    I am also concerned about Romney?s choice of judges and the state of the Republican Party in Massachusetts after his tenure as Governor.

    For more information, please refer to the details under the subheadings below.

    Thank you for your consideration of this material.

    **************************************************************

    www.MassResistance.org/romney

    ***************** the subheadings below are copied from The Mitt Romney Deception Report The 26-page comprehensive report describing how Gov. Romney ran for office and governed as a liberal, despite his claims to the contrary. This covers a wide range of topics and is an essential read.

    Romney supports abortion in general, and believes in sustaining Roe v. Wade.

    Romney campaigned for Governor of Massachusetts as a pro-choice candidate, and was endorsed by a pro-abortion political group

    Romney is willing to support some embryonic stem cell research

    Romney Approves of Abortion Pill and Supports the Legalization of RU-486

    Romney signs “Right to Privacy” Proclamation celebrating birth control availability

    Gov. Romney has a long history of promoting and furthering the homosexual agenda, and working closely with leading gay activists

    Romney twice sought and received the endorsement of the homosexual Log Cabin Republican Club

    Romney’s campaign distributed pro-gay rights campaign literature during Boston’s “Gay Pride” events

    Romney supports homosexual “anti-discrimination” laws

    Romney advocates homosexual couples’ adoption rights be recognized by the government

    Romney supports homosexual domestic partnerships

    Romney supported and promoted legalizing homosexual civil unions

    Romney Opposes the Boy Scouts’ Ban on Homosexual Scoutmasters

    Romney barred Boy Scouts from public participation in 2002 Olympics

    Romney appointed prominent homosexuals to key positions in his administration

    Romney appointed prominent homosexual activists and Democrats as judges

    “Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans, has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced, instead tapping registered Democrats or independents — including two gay lawyers who have supported expanded same-sex rights, a Globe review of the nominations has found. Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show. In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters, and 14 registered Democrats.”
    - Boston Globe 7/25/2005, “Romney jurist picks not tilted to GOP; Independents, Democrats get call”

    Romney Rewards one of the State’s Leading Anti-Marriage Attorneys by Making him a Judge

    Romney announces he won’t fill judicial vacancies before term ends

    Romney’s Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth used huge taxpayer funding to promote homosexuality in the public schools

    Romney’s Commission organized public gay “Youth Pride Day” parades and “transgender proms” which promote unhealthy and risky behavior

    Romney issues a proclamation celebrating gay “Youth Pride Day”

    Romney’s Department of Education promotes the homosexual agenda

    Romney’s Department of Public Health (DPH) cooperates with the homosexual activist movement

    Romney opposed federal legislation that would stop public schools from promoting homosexuality

    Romney’s Dept. of Social Services honors homosexual “married” couple as adoptive “Parents of the Year”

    Romney refused to endorse the original 2002 Mass. constitutional amendment absolutely defining marriage as one man and one women

    Romney unnecessarily (and unconstitutionally) implemented homosexual marriages in Massachusetts

    Romney had marriage licenses changed to allow same-sex marriages

    Romney administration ordered Justices of Peace to perform homosexual “marriages” when asked – or be fired!

    Romney administration’s training of Town Clerks (on how to issue same-sex marriage licenses) states that marriage statutes were not changed

    Romney signs bill eliminating Sexual Transmitted Disease (STD) testing requirement for marriage

    When requested of him, Romney personally issues special one-day certificates to allow otherwise unqualified people to perform homosexual “marriages”

    Was Romney’s public opposition to homosexual “marriage” based on expediency, not principle?

    Romney favors “Assault” Weapons Ban

    Romney Favors Waiting Periods

    Romney supports minimum wage laws

    Romney Balances Budget with $500 Million in New Fees

    Romney imposes “socialized” health care on Massachusetts

    Romney’s dismal record as the Republican leader in Massachusetts

    Romney pledged to build the Massachusetts Republican Party, but in fact he did almost nothing. During his tenure there were two elections for the entire Legislature (2004 and 2006). In each election the Republicans lost seats. Republicans now hold the fewest seats in the Legislature since the Civil War.
    During the four years of Romney’s tenure, the number of registered Republicans in Massachusetts fell by 31,000. During that same period, the Massachusetts Democratic Party gained 30,000. “…… That means Republicans now make up 12.5 percent of the state’s voters, … according to the data released by the Secretary of State’s office. When the state elected Romney, a Republican, in 2002, the GOP made up 13.4 percent of the electorate. ”
    - Boston Globe, 11/2/2006, “GOP ranks dropped by 31,000 since state elected Romney”
    In the 2006 elections, most offices were not even challenged by Republican candidates. In the November general election for the six statewide Massachusetts constitutional offices there were more Green-Rainbow Party candidates on the ballot than Republicans!
    The party’s slide has been so precipitous that Republicans yesterday did not contest 130 of 200 legislative seats, fielded a challenger in only three of 10 congressional districts, and put up fewer candidates for statewide office (three) than the Green-Rainbow Party (four).
    - Boston Globe, 11/8/2006, “For Republicans in Mass., a feeling of out and down”

    **************************************************************************

    Comments from the head of the Massachusetts Republican Party, James Rappaport, who was Chairman while Romney was Governor.

    ?…James Rappaport, former head of the Massachusetts Republican Party held a press conference recently to announce his endorsement of Rudy Giuliani. ….. Rappaport, who served when Romney was governor, said Romney ?has a strong record of showmanship as opposed to actual performance.? On his relationship with the State Legislature, ?His word is no good ? Mitt Romney would say one thing in a meeting and literally go out of the meeting to the press and tell the opposite story. There was no desire in the legislature to be accommodating to him because they couldn?t trust him?. Romney will be clear today on what he believes today, and he?ll be clear tomorrow on what he believes tomorrow, but they may be different things.?

    http://www.townhall.com/columnists/SandyRios/2007/12/10/mitt_romney_may_have_had_no_choice,_but_i_do

    **************************************************************************

    Conservative media has a conflict of interest with Romney.

    I believe that some conservative media, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levine, Rich Lowry, Hugh Hewitt, and others perpetuated a false idea during the 2008 campaign, i.e. the idea that Romney is conservative. Their scrutiny of Huckabee and McCain’s conservative credentials during the 2008 campaign was often emotional and full of highly charged, derogatory terms, while they were more silent about holes in Romney’s conservative credentials.

    On Nov 16, 2006, Clear Channel Communications agreed to be acquired by Bain Capital and Thomas Lee Partners for nearly $19 billion. Bain Capital is the private equity firm founded by Mitt Romney in 1984; that he left in 1999 to head the 2002 Olympics; that he sold his majority interest in, in 2001 to run for Governor of Massachusetts; where he is still a silent partner. The sale was completed in Dec 2007 after 1 year of pending negotiations of the leveraged buyout agreement. Clear Channel owns more than 1,100 full-power AM, FM, and shortwave radio stations, twelve radio channels on XM Satellite Radio, and more than 30 television stations in the United States.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/16/AR2006111600537.html

    Premiere Radio Networks, which is the largest syndication company in the United States, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Clear Channel and is home to Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, FOX NEWS Radio and many other talk radio shows. Premiere Radio Networks is transitioning to a new CEO Charlie Rahilly from Kraig Kitchin. Sean Hannity recently signed a large multi-market contract with Clear Channel.

    The early Bain Capital team included Romney’s campaign advisor, Robert F. White. According to CNN/Money magazine’s Dec 10, 2007 article entitled “Millionaires-in-chief”, some 43% of Romney’s portfolio is currently invested in Bain Capital. On the Bain Capital website it says “Our principals are the largest single investor in each of Bain Capital’s funds,..”
    (http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2007/moneymag/0712/gallery.candidates.moneymag/6.html )

    **************************************************************************

    Other informative reports:

    Report on the true pro-life views of Gov. Romney – Written in reaction to the controversy over Romney’s various pro-life stands.

    How Mitt Romney brought “gay marriage” to Massachusetts – Complete report with comprehensive legal analysis. The Supreme Judicial Court made a ruling and ordered the Legislature to act. The Legislature did nothing, so Romney stepped in and ordered same-sex “marriages” to begin — essentially violating his oath of office.

    A new book, “Mitt Romney’s Deception — His Stealth Promotion of “Gay Rights” and “Gay Marriage”in Massachusetts” Contrary to Governor Romney’s claim that he defended marriage, the Constitution, traditional values, and religious freedom, he actually undermined them.

    • Finrod

      And thank you for explaining your reasoning. We will have no perfect candidate this election, it’s just a question of which flawed candidate will do the best at getting our values and our philosophy into the government.

      • kowalski

        I think of all the people who I know have worked so hard for the things I believe, who have done more than I have to shake up and reinvigorate Conservatism in this country, and in the end I just have to be on their side on this one.

        Romney is a good man. I wish all the character attacks would stop, I think they’ve gone well beyond the tasteful and veered off into the lurid and vengeful. But both these guys have been doing it and arguably Romney started it. And besides all that, I have a conscience, and my conscience tells me: “You have to keep supporting the people you said you believed in, even if something else seems fleetingly more attractive.”

        So that’s that for now. Wasn’t an easy decision to make. But there was no pressure from anyone – it was all the result of things I’ve read from many, many sources, not merely Redstate. In fact I’ve ignored most of the pro-Newt stuff I’ve read on Redstate and came to this decision in a lot of cases despite it.

        • http://www.tooncesthecat.wordpress.com tooncesthecat

          is someone climbing ON a sinking ship.

          • WillWong

            Kowalski….You just hit the nail on its head!

            Grassroot supporters for small government, fiscal conservatism, and lower taxes have poured in sweat equity for the last two years….nominating Romney means all ourv efforts for the last two years are in vain….Just too much at stake!

            Romney bussed in his supporters….Newt’s supporters pour in their sweat, tears, and in some cases blood!

          • Ann_W

            And yet somehow they were a majority of the voters in the Florida primary. Things that make you go hmmm…..

          • WillWong

            Romney’s bussing in supporters is a well known fact….see Iowa 2008 straw polls, SC 2012 primaries, etc

          • Leon H. Wolf

            You have to be registered for 29 days in Florida before you can vote. The idea that Romney bussed in 100,000 people a month ago, registered them with fraudulent addresses, and had them vote is ludicrous.

            There is apparently literally nothing negative that can be said about Mitt Romney that is so stupid that some people will not believe it.

          • WillWong

            Go back and read it please! Thanks!

          • Leon H. Wolf

            I just mistakenly assumed you had a point. Every successful campaign that has ever existed has bussed in out of state supporters to help with GOTV and phone banking. They do not vote and thus are not responsible for Mitt Romney winning anything.

            Also, Newt bussed in supporters to IA, SC and FL so I’m further flummoxed as to what you’re trying to prove. If your point is that Romney bussed in MORE supporters then that is yet more evidence that Romney has more die hard support. Which sort of contradicts your point.

          • gfrgfr

            Good point – I wonder why that is?

            Possibly if Willard The Rat had a reputation for integrity people would trust him more. Instead they see an individual who will say and do anything to get elected. Mybe Willard The Rat didn’t bus 100,000 people in to vote but I’m pretty sure he bussed in campaign workers from all over the US. Newt doesn’t have anywhere near those resources.

          • http://opinionator.blogs.com/the_opinionator/ The_Opinionator

            Whose fault is that?

          • WillWong

            A campaign rising from the ashes a few times….
            A campaign on a shoestring budget beating another with Establishment support and megabucks…
            A tin suit running against an incumbent with a similiar platform….

          • traversecityconservative

            I’d rather be on what others perceive as a sinking ship with lifevests and rafts..than a luxury yacht fully staffed with gas and wine going full steam ahead into Rinoland.

    • Bill S

      STOP reposting the same stuff over and over on different threads. This is not permitted.

      Failure to heed this warning will result in revocation of your posting privileges.

      Mgmt.

    • Green_Lantern

      But yer spammin’ the boards.

      • creinstein

        Right on Romney, wrong to Spam.

        Be creative, be one who hand types responses for variability.

  • kowalski

    It’s not going to satisfy everyone but dang it, nothing you say on a blog ever does:

    Every few years for as long as I can remember, Newt Gingrich has been getting up on television or writing in a book, or saying in an interview, that we have a serious, fundamental crisis in America that needs to be reckoned with. And every few years, I’ve listened and thought: “Well, yeah, but not so much.”

    Except this time, he’s right. We do have a serious, fundamental crisis in America that needs to be reckoned with. Part of it is moral, and a very large part of it is fiscal and involves how we define ourselves as a Republic. You look at the CBO numbers and commentary that’s coming out and you look at the rate of taxation that’s going to be required to meet the ever-mounting obligations we’ve saddled ourselves with and think about the entitlement mentality that created it all, and you know he’s right.

    You know he’s right in your mind and in your guts. We need a budget hawk as the President. Not just a “dig into the problem” manager who will snip away here and there so as not to offend anyone too deeply, we need a fighter and a budget hawk.

    • avagreen

      * *
      &
      [+++]

      (and I hope the lurkers bust a gut)

    • Common_Cents

      Hopefully Santorum will now quit and endorse Gingrich.

      That will close the gap and a 2 man race will bring out the sideline money/support for Gingrich. Romney has already had his DC establishment support all along and isn’t going to pick up much more.

    • falconrap

      more people realized this. I can’t believe Romney won so many votes in Hillsborough. I guess too many here just listen and watch the ads and just vote. I do see a silver lining though. Romney is getting pounded in the more conservative areas in the state. I think he will lose the conservative states big time. The question really is, are there enough delegates in the conservative states to win the nomination? I think states like Georgia and Alabama will go Newt by as much or more than SC. I only hope Newt can pull in some of the other iffy states like Ohio. The good news is that only half of Florida’s delegates count.

      I only wish people would just look at the actual records of these two and see that Romney is not a conservative. I wish to God he was, because I wouldn’t have too worry as much. Newt needs to just tighten up and focus on a few core issues and stop trying to tag all the bases an make putts in every hole. Just hit the big stuff and pound the message home that he’s the conservative who will fight the spending and repeal Obamacare while Romney is not. Leave it at that.

      • Juggernaut

        than true red states that want someone who is more conservative. The Tea Party strong states will lean towards anyone but Mitt as this group is picking up steam once again. Romney’s record in office and his questionable deals at Bain make him less electable. His successes at Bain do not outweigh medicare scandal nor taking a fed bailout. Obama will pound Romney on his past and it will disenfranchise more voters to either vote Obama or stay home.

  • Viet71

    Romney. I’d just cut and paste those set forth by bluerose75.

    The real question it seems, however, is: Would Romney stand a better or worse chance of beating Obama than Gingrich?

    Don’t know about the rest of the country, but here in the northeast, Romney is surely the most acceptable R-candidate to voters whose main concern is the economy. I.e., most voters here.

    So, yes, he flips and flops and is not a reliable conservative.

    Would he be be better than Obama? No doubt.

    Is he more electable than Newt? Probably in the northeast, at least.

    • WA_Cowboy

      I agree that governors make better candidates and usually better presidents — advantage Romney.

      I agree that both Romney and Newt’s records leave much to be desired – advantage Push

      I agree that Newt seems more willing to fight today for Tea Party type values – Advantage Newt.

      Here’s where I sit. I think Romney will lose to Obama, BUT he has less to overcome to be able to beat him. I think that Newt CAN beat Obama, but has to overcome a mountain of obstacles. Romney has the lower floor, Newt has the higher ceiling. Romney the “safe” pick, Newt has more “upside” but could also bust immensely.

      I’m on the record as not being for Romney. I do like Newt better, but would prefer a governor and one without some of the baggage that Newt brings.

      if only Gov Perry did better in early debates…can’t stop thinking of that.

    • kowalski

      And I have a ****LOT**** of respect for Chris Christie in New Jersey, who has proven that he’s committed to taking on really serious, difficult and entrenched challenges head on.

      But a lot of the Northeast needs a wake-up call. There is so much money being wasted here in government that could be done better and cheaper by private companies. We have a shrinking tax base, a burgeoning entitlement obligation, and a large cohort of people who just refuse to accept the Wall of Reality until they are smashed into it.

      One thing Gingrich will do as the President, I’m quite sure, is to work with northeastern governors like Christie and give them his utmost support. He knows what an uphill battle they’re facing. We need someone in the Oval Office who will say: “I’m not going to sign anything that keeps saddling you with mandates you either have to raise taxes even more, or cheat people more, to afford.”

      This country is in serious fiscal trouble and it looks like we’re going to be in serious fiscal trouble for the next decade or more, even with the most pluperfectly pollyannish projections possible. We need someone in the Oval Office who is going to help Governors around this country say: “Our people cannot afford this and I’m not going to sign this.”

    • texastaxpayer

      What’s the advantage? If we nominate Romney how many of those blue northeastern states are going to turn red in November?
      New York?
      Massachusetts?
      I have personally never given a d@mn what the northeasterners thought because their opinions are moot. The democrats own the region. The southern and midwestern states make up the GOP base so why should we care??

      • Viet71

        Just tryin’ to be an honest reporter.

      • http://redmerrimack.blogspot.com/ charliebravoNH

        1. Contested down ballot races in Northeast keeps Democrat campaign dollars in the Northeast. US Senators and Congressmen in the NE who run unopposed or against weak candidates often amass huge campaign war-chests. Their campaign committees often donate to Democrats running in Red States like Texas. Barney Frank and Chuck Shumer do this all the time.

        2. Blue states like MA, NY, NJ and RI are hemorrhaging people. High taxes, massive government spending create a poor business climate. People leave and move to states like Texas looking for jobs. How many New Englanders would you like in your neighborhood? I will tell you this New Englander can adapt to the Texas heat. I did it before when I was active duty Air Force I can do it again.

        Is this a reason to support Romney? No. I didn’t support Romney this year, I wouldn’t ask anybody else to either.My disagreement with you is writing off the Northeast. We are a nation that is $16 trillion dollars in debt. Writing off the most populous region of the Country as unwinnable is a bad idea considering what we face.

        • texastaxpayer

          I do see the merits of your arguments, certainly in regards to contesting senate and congressional seats. As for migration, hey the more the merrier. We have a lot of transplants in the DFW area and all that I have met have moved here for opportunity. I have personally lived all over the US. Alabama, Washington state, northern California, Bizmark North Dakota and in all these places I have found good honest hard working people. So if y’all want to come to Texas all we ask is you don’t vote for the same liberal BS that destroyed your previous home.

          The point I was trying and apparently failing to make is this. Picking a candidate for the GOP nominee based on the northeast doesn’t bring out the base in the south and Midwest. Consider Romney, to get elected apparently he had to move so far to the left that frankly he is more liberal than most Texas democrats. How does this help us when Texas not Massachusetts is the largest most important red state? Assuming Texans will just drone to the polls and pull the republican lever is a mistake. Frankly I will be voting against Obama if Romney is the nominee and many many people I speak with daily a resigned not to vote. Just seems like a bad strategy to me.

          • Juggernaut

            so called leadership in this country and the media are at fault for not vetting candidates and they are at fault for focusing on the small stuff while ignore the debt, education decline and the eroding job problem just to name a few. Cheap soundbytes and drama is what they seek while not spending time on what will fix this nation. I don’t expect the media to solve government problems they have become part of the problem and they have caused more fights between the parties while the political class decided the future. The rest of us haven’t seen the kind of candidates who want to work to solve problems, Newt offers real solutions and the establishment types don’t get it.

          • http://redmerrimack.blogspot.com/ charliebravoNH

            Elected Republicans are lucky to be disruptive never mind govern. If you asked me 15 years ago if the leading candidate for the Presidential nomination would be a MA Republican I would have laughed at the thought. In MA 13% of the voters are registered Republicans. What I don’t understand is why Romney didn’t take his millions and call another state home. He could have moved back home to Michigan or he could have moved into his lake front spread in NH or gone to Utah. Romney could have become Governor in any of those states and not have to carry the baggage he carries now. He could have ran as a Democrat for Governor in MA and could have gone on to be President in 2008 with Romneycare as his biggest asset. In my opinion Mitt Romney’s long road to the WH is the equivalent of running a 26 mile marathon in a 50 MPH headwind.

          • texastaxpayer

            Since 1914 14 of the 26 governors of Massachusetts only 12 have been democrats. Further the people of Massachusetts hadn’t elected a democrat since 1991 as governor.

            William F. Weld 1991 – 1997
            Paul Cellucci 1997 – 2001
            Jane Swift 2001 – 2003 *Cellucci became ambassador to Canada*
            Mitt Romney 2003 – 2007
            Then Mitt Romney and his 34% approval rating changed this.
            Deval Patrick 2007 – Present DEMOCRAT, first one in 16 years.

            Romney was a failure in his attempt to lead a government. You can’t blame the liberals for Romney’s choices.

          • http://redmerrimack.blogspot.com/ charliebravoNH

            bailed out as Governor. Weld didn’t serve his entire second term. Cellucci became ambassador to Canada after he stiffened the already ridiculous gun control laws in MA. Jane Swift had no chance at re-election. Swift had been plagued by gaffes, using the state police helicopter too much and the whole fiasco with firing the Massport director following the 9/11 and the hijacking of Flights 11 and 175 at Logan Airport.. There is nothing fun about being a Republican Governor of MA. If all they loved it so much they would have stayed on.

            Yes Romney would not have been re elected in 2006. Most Republicans in the Northeast got beat badly mostly because of Bush. Santorum got smoked in PA despite beating his opponent in every debate.

            Texastaxpayer thanks for bringing back all the memories of all those former MA Governors LOL. I am so glad I don’t live in MA anymore.

          • Juggernaut

            from the 1990′s and as governor. The big masquerade is the media refuse to cover his negatives in detail so its up the people online to get the word out yet so many buckle to fear from tv media hype. Is it no wonder George Soros says we’ll be alright with Obama or Romney.

          • texastaxpayer

            I can’t figure any other reason he isn’t a democrat either. He would have an easier time in their party. They have so much in common he would win in a walk.

          • Juggernaut

            then George changed his mind so did Mitt. This guy changes with the wind to suit whomever he’s around just like he was against the Ohio union bill till he got jumped and flip flopped for it. No telling who he’d be as president but with the record number of changes the media and democrats could bully this guy into anything.

      • http://opinionator.blogs.com/the_opinionator/ The_Opinionator

        And possibly Pennsylvania. The Philly burbs could go Romney but will never vote Gingrich.

    • scottishjew

      Here’s a breaking news flash. Christie is NOT a conservative. I live in New Jersey. He is marginally better than the last governor. But he is not a conservative. He once ran on the democratic ticket. How many of you knew that.

      • Juggernaut

        wonder MSNBC likes him so much. He runs with the NYC crowd that circulate around Mayor Bloomberg’s party friends.

      • streiff

        Christie has only run for office as a Republican

        Freeholder Morris County 1994
        NJ General Assembly 1995
        Freeholder Morris County 1998
        NJ Governor 2009

        • scottishjew

          After Chris Christie lost to Murphy in the Republican primary, he tried to get on the democratic ticket.

          • streiff

            you said he ran as a Democrat. It was a lie, as you now admit. So we’ve established that you have a rather callous disregard for the truth. That, at least is something.

            Now the second challenge for you. Produce documentation of Christie’s efforts to become a Democrat. I’m really interested as how that could happen as he lost in a Republican primary which simultaneously selected the Democrat candidate.

            This is not an arcane task. The banning committee has weighed and measured you and found you wanting. Absent media reports, etc., documenting your claim you have two choices: a major mea culpa for your lack of integrity or banning.

          • jakeofalltrades

            heh

          • tristan57

            Anyone who knows anything about American history should already know something about this.

            Here’s Romney’s REAL reason for running: http://politics.salon.com/2012/01/29/mitt_and_the_white_horse_prophecy/

            “Smith?s insertion of religion into politics and his call for a ?theodemocracy where God and people hold the power to conduct the affairs of men in righteous matters? created a sensation and drew hostility from the outside world. But his candidacy was cut short when he was shot to death by an anti-Mormon vigilante mob. Out of Smith?s national political ambitions grew what would become known in Mormon circles as the ?White Horse Prophecy? ? a belief ingrained in Mormon culture and passed down through generations by church leaders that the day would come when the U.S. Constitution would ?hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber? and the Mormon priesthood would save it.
            Romney is the product of this culture. At BYU, he was idolized by fellow students and referred to, only half jokingly, as the ?One Mighty and Strong.? He was the ?alpha male? in the rarefied Cougar pack, according to Michael D. Moody, a BYU classmate and fellow member of the group.”

            Read the entire article. Scarey ain’t it!

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          • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

            I mean clearly going with the “how prophetic could these men be back in 1840′s…”

            Coming up with ideas like…

            1. Only people with values would support the Constitution
            2. That if members of the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints should remain free to practice their religion, they should embrace the Constitution and fight for the clarity of such a God-Given rule of law among mankind…
            3. That such the culture of Mormonism is that we should recognize who gave us the Constitution by His divine guidance of good and honorable men… and we should fight to maintain this precious God-given document and what it will inspire in all mankind for a better form of Governance than what 5000 years of human history was not able to produce…

            I’m just shocked… shocked that a religious group of people would try to preserve Constitutional Principles because they were taught it’s their DUTY!!!

            FOR SHAME MORMONS! FOR SHAME!

          • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

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          • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

            I’m sure you’re just plumb proud of yourself there aren’t you?

          • Ausonius

            …but the MORMONATI!

            Well, if a white-horsed Mormon wants to save the Republic and preserve the Constitution, fine with me! :)

          • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

            We’re some religious secret society attempting overthrow the government to install a “theodemocracy”, or
            We’re some religious secret society attempting to save the constitution…

            Really we’re just divided by those born on odd days are with the first and those born on even days are with the latter.

          • acat

            I think I’d prefer Mormons to Jehovah’s Witnesses. Not sure about Catholics, kinda depends on what century we’re using as the model.

            Mew

          • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

            But I think the J.W.’s, Mormons, and Catholics would all agree, that the only “Theodemocracy” that will ever exist is the one Jesus Christ sets up himself

            It’s all that other business we disagree about that makes for the lively discussions.

            Maybe the scariest thought to a non-Mormon of any faith/non-faith position… is that we might be correct in our theology… which might suggest some unpleasantness for folks that are “jerks” and “think that only their religion ‘gets it’ “.

          • lineholder

            They are as lefty as they come, and have been on a “dominionism” kick for months. Seriously. They used the “theodemocracy” meme to try to attack both Bachman and Perry with. Now Mitt.

            They HATE religion of any kind. Period.

          • aesthete

            As is, Romney ain’t gonna do a gorram thing to save the Constitution, and as President would probably do his level best to help dismantle it.

          • kegan05

            Why would anyone who professes to be a Conservative support Newt Gingrich? Newt is on YouTube Video describing himself as a ?Wilsonian Progressive,? and a ?Progressive Republican.? Anyone who has done any reading on the Woodrow Wilson era knows that a ?Wilsonian Progressive? is NOT a Conservative.

            Furthermore, on the same Video, Newt declares that our sacred Constitution is OBSOLETE! What?? Really? This is not a Conservative idea. Comrade Obozo says the same thing!

            Newt criticizes Mitt Romney for being a flip-flopper but he has done some major flip-flops. Unbeliev able!

            Here is the link, if you can stand an hour of Newt:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?f?

            There are many Video?s with Newt bloviating and it proves what a conflicted, undisciplined person he is. No thank you. We need someone who is more stable to lead this nation. Newt is not the guy.

  • brand

    than all the other failed moderate candidates the Republican’s have offered in the past 100+ years. And, in no particular order…

    It’s not just McCain and Dole. It’s Ford (lost the one time he was nominated), Bush Sr., Dewey (twice), Hoover, Wilkie, etc.

    Romney’s only ever WON one election. He’s winning by attacking, not based on his own merits, and posit, Levin’s recent Facebook post, his nasty attacks are exactly why I cannot support him.

    Yes, Newt is easily more conservative, but Romney has been laying down cover fire for Liberals since the 90′s, at least. Why all the friendly-fire, Mitt? How on Earth can you talk about how trivial Newt was to Reagan when you came out and denounced the guy? It’s mind numbing/head scratching stuff.

  • Common_Cents

    and get big support. Just from talking about one issue, not Paul’s foreign policy or any other “lunarcy” :)

    It’s legalizing marijuana. LOL.

    Obama had an online town hall on google plus and 18 of the top 20 questions from a total of 133,000 questions submitted were about legalizing marijuana. Gee, wonder where that came from?

    Why not do a deal w/ Paul and whisper a few sweet nothings to his supporters. They’d go crazy fighting for Newt. hehe.

    ***************************

    “According to the White House’s YouTube page, 133,216 questions were submitted for the discussion (voting is now closed). YouTube visitors could give the questions a “thumbs up” or “thumbs down” rating, and more than 1.6 million votes were cast.

    Sorting the questions by popularity reveals that 18 of the 20 most popular questions, according to YouTube, have something to do with marijuana policy, including the legalization of marijuana use, the cost of the war on drugs and other related issues.”

    • georgehenry85

      Newt wants to go to the moon and offer other big government “IDEAS”

      Newt is seen as a BIG government guy, by Ron Paul supporters, promising programs that will only expand money supply not conserve money supply.

      I think Newt already tried to get Ron Paul supporters on board and it might have worked when he started talking about the Gold Standard and always saying things like “Restoring America” back to the constitutional roots.

      If you look back to the 2000 GOP campaign when George Bush ran on a Non-Interventionist Humble Foreign Policy, I am pretty sure these are the views of the GOP Ron Paul supporters. They don’t see 9/11 as a foreign job but rather a domestic job. So don’t want to Police the world and rather put the focus on big government “IDEAS” as the root cause to many problems.

      So to get Ron Paul supporters to support him, Newt would have to change his Foreign Policy to resemble what Bush’s GOP campaign talked about in 2000. And then just flip flop when he gets in office.

  • JSobieski

    NT

    • aesthete

      would be Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney, and Ron Paul all ganging up on Newt in the next debate, driving him out of the race, and splitting his PAC, endorsements, and infrastructure amongst themselves.

    • http://opinionator.blogs.com/the_opinionator/ The_Opinionator

      I have to agree wholeheartedly with Rules 1-3.

      • kowalski

        Did anyone here ever really SERIOUSLY think a real Conservative was going to get Donald Trump’s *anything* except to promote himself?

        Check out the price list at the spa…

        http://www.trumpchicagohotel.com/_files/_pdf/FinalPriceList.pdf

        Remember, you’re Christians. You’re too poor to afford or appreciate that stuff.

  • acat

    I’m not happy with the state of the race, but I think – given these four dregs – Gingrich has the most potential to be a solid candidate and president.

    Mew

  • Benta_Nordstrom

    If Romney becomes the nominee, our family of 8 voters will not vote for him.
    The only indication that Romney is a Conservative is that he says he is.
    His record tells an entirely different story. Romney is a flip-flopper. His stated position changes depending on who he’s trying to woo. Obama is terrible but Romney is not far from him.
    Republicans lost to Clinton in 1996, but we had President Bush for two terms and looking back, if a Dole loss in ’96 meant a Bush victory in 2000…..It was worth it!

    • The_Rebel

      voters will not vote for him”.

      I’ll be sure to ignore your postings once Romney becomes the nominee.

      • http://fourthgenerationamerican.blogspot.com jensington7

        IF Romney becomes the nominee I will not vote in presidential race.
        I don’t want four more years of Obama, but I think it’s time the GOP paid a price for it’s liberalism.
        The United States needs another cowboy in the white house, not a bartender.

        • Filibuster Keaton

          Be interesting to see what this site looks like if only Romney supporters are allowed here.

        • Martin Knight

          … partial birth abort our children, seize all our guns, ban Christianity, surrender to Al Qaeda and socialize the entire American economy?

    • Ann_W

      At this rate. You can sit and watch happily.

  • demsaresatanic

    I am a newcomer here and haven’t had the benefit of reading your prior posts but I am curious, how could any conservative have ever supported Romney. Not somebody like Coulter and her crush on a wealthy good-looking husband-figure, I’m talking about a reasoned decision.

    Prior comments have pointed out how, when he was compelled to act rather than merely talk, Romney consistently governed liberal. He is our version of Kerry, he was against Reagan before he was for him, he was against the Contract with America before he was for it, and on and on regarding virtually everything that distinguishes a conservative from a liberal. In other words, what has Romney ever done for the conservative cause besides say nice things about it after he began running for President?

    I hope you will address this question in a future post, I am sincerely curious, and please not some vague notion about bringing over the independents; the Republican most successful in bringing over independents and Democrats was Reagan.

    • kowalski

      I came to Redstate as a Leftist. I wasn’t a Liberal in the classical sense; initially I was much more extreme. I was a Z-Magazine subscribing, Baffler-reading, Howard Zinn/Noam Chomsky acolyte. I have a stack of Harper’s Magazines that I haven’t used for toilet paper that I’m going to be burning for the the rest of this winter in a stove that I use, dating back to 1996.

      I wasn’t a Conservative when I came to Redstate and despite the idea that people have “Saul of Tarsus” moments when they have major epiphanies, if anything my “epiphany” has been stretched out over several years, watching everything I’ve seen unfold in the fullness of time. I doubt I’m as gifted as Paul was in any case. I’ve certainly never walked the road to Damascus, but I have lived in Chicago, if that counts for anything. And I was very supportive of the politics I believed in for most of the time I was there.

      And it occurred to me that I was wrong, and I was. It’s taken me a long time to sort that out and God is still working on me.

      As far as Independents go, I believe people can make up their own minds as I have. It takes time, people go through changes in life and the most important thing they should do, regardless of all the influences trying to make up their minds for them, is try to be true to their own experiences, their own minds, their own selves – all their comprehensive life experiences. They should also realize that simply existing as themselves without ever serving something larger is a tiny and selfish existence indeed.

      In once sentence, I look at the balance of things that need to be done in America to return us to prosperity, I look at the recent attack on the Catholic Church and Catholic hospitals by the Obama Administration, I know that we have a lot of Republican governors who need a Conservative President in office, and to put the icing on the cake I know that I deeply care for many of the people who founded this blog and write on this blog as Conservatives here today. I’ve told them in the past that I support them, and I’ve been here long enough to know that you can count your true friends on only a few fingers of a hand (or maybe two.) I’m not walking away from them, despite my own eccentricities.

      More later…

    • kowalski

      “What has Romney ever done for the conservative cause besides say nice things about it after he began running for President?”

      As far as I can tell, nothing of substance. Talking about it is a good thing in itself – let’s not go bananas here and say he’s lying about that because I don’t believe that – but in terms of specifics, in terms of real policy things, he’s done nothing. And he really could do nothing.

      If you want to say anything, you can say: “He’s moved to the right a long way in terms of his rhetoric” and being credible instead of mendacious you could say: “That’s a good thing.”

      But concretely? C’mon, we’re watching here and we all know nothing he’s said has been done yet.

      • kowalski

        Just to cast this in a slightly darker shadow, I’ll say this:

        I think every professional politician in America who rises to the level of national politics knows one thing and knows deeply in their bones:

        “You can talk a good game, but ultimately you want to be judged as clueless or helpless or both.”

        The rest of the country is the “shock absorber” for the purported cluelessness and helplessness of the politicians we elect. That is our job as Small People.

        • demsaresatanic

          K, I appreciate your taking the time to answer.

        • kowalski

          P.J. O’Rourke famously wrote that the “Whores are Us” but even that isn’t quite right because anyone who isn’t a nationally esteemed writer knows that in reality we’re not the whores, we’re actually the mattress. Most people supply the springiness on which the hot political action takes place, and when it gets too soiled for anyone to stand, the mattress gets thrown out and replaced with a new mattress. In the meantime, our career politicans are clueless or helpless or both. OK enough for tonight.

  • Juggernaut

    He’s not going to win 1144 delegates, so its better to join with Newt as a potential VEEP than cost us the future of the conservatism with Romney who has shown no respect for conservative ideals nor tea party reform ideas. This man thinks the middle will win the primaries, not so, the general maybe but that’s 6 months off.

    • Flagstaff

      would WANT Santorum for VP? (In fairness, when Newt wasn’t expecting to even be close by now, he offered himself as VP to the rest of them.)

      Our BEST chance to win is if they ALL stop slamming each other, fight it out based on how each would fight Obama, and then to UNITE around the winner. I see at least one of the candidates who doesn’t seem inclined to join in that effort. I just hope he doesn’t decide to go third party.

      Until Romney makes enough mistakes to convince his supporters that he isn’t more likely to beat Obama than is Newt, Romney will remain ahead.

      I have long maintained that I don’t know who is “most likely to win” and therefore I shouldn’t vote that way, but rather should vote based on the characteristics of the candidates. That’s what I intend to do. They all have warts.

  • nepanyrush

    Santorum is the much more consistent conservative than Newt. Newt has been all over the place — supporting global warming, supporting the individual mandate, calling Ryan’s plan right-wing social engineering, supporting Rockefeller over Goldwater, etc. And add to this, Newt extreme ethical baggage. It is not surprising that he has a huge gap with women and runs way behind Obama in national polls. Can you even imagine his wife, who cheated with Newt for 6 years and slept with Newt in his wife’s bed, as first lady?

    Santorum has been the lone adult in the debates, standing above the fray, and not making nonsense statements like Newt that look bad in the light of the day (crazy social security plan that would break the budget, moon colony statehood, etc.). Santorum won a statewide election twice in a democratic state, beat democratic incumbants three times in elections, and is very articulate on conservative values.

    Newt has zero chance of winning a general election. Zero. I could easily see Santorum winning a general election, having watched him in Pennsylvania bring the Reagan Democrats home (until he ran against the popular, “prolife” Casey.

    It is not Newt against Romney. Conservatives should be behind Santorum, not a person (Newt) for whom it is an embarrasment to support and I could hardly hold my nose long enought to pull the level for. Already I have relatives berating me as a hypocrit on ethics because I dared to say that I might be able to hold my nose long enough to vote for Newt if I had to. Newt is just an embarrasement.

    • http://twitter.com/michael_s_grant msgrant

      Obummer… Repubs have 3 (ish) imperfect candidates. Perry, my favorite, barely showed up for the party but any of the 3 (or so) guys we have now should be able to slow or stop the fiscal hemorrhaging and descent into Grecian status.

    • demsaresatanic

      on the Ryan Medicare plan. Maybe Newt should not have said it like that, but the Ryan plan had no chance in the Senate, not to mention over an Obama veto. It was poor politics, futile grandstanding which merely made Democrat “Republicans want to kill Medicare” rhetoric more credible. It probably cost us some seats in the last election and will do so again this time.

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