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Grass-roots organization proposes citizens build AZ-MX wall

Since the Feds have failed miserably to protect the 389-mile Arizona-Mexico border to keep drug traffickers and illegals from the US, a grass-roots group has proposed citizens take efforts into their own hands and build a wall themselves. The name of the group is The Great Wall of Arizona.

I have been in e-mail contact with Mr. David Garretson who is heading up the project, and I agree with him in the wake of a border patrol agent being shot and killed it is even more imperative to have a physical barrier. From their website:

“TheGreatWallOfArizona.org is dedicated to getting as many people as possible to the Arizona Mexico border to build a wall. Recent polls show that 68% of Americans think that there should be a physical barrier between the US and Mexico. TheGreatWallOfArizona.org is a grassroots movement to get that physical barrier built. Americans have a lot of different personal reasons for wanting to build a wall. Instead of getting caught up in all the different reasons TheGreatWallOfArizona.org strives to emphasis the common goal of building the wall. If you want to be a part of an American community that values actions more than words and you want to build a wall between Arizona and Mexico then join us here at TheGreatWallOfArizona.org by clicking on the Join button at the top right and let’s get the job done.”

Below are some questions asked and answered via e-mail by Mr. Garretson and can also be found on the site:

“Who actually owns the land?

The land on the Arizona-Mexico border is comprised of private, state, federal, and Indian Reservation ownership as well as Drug Cartel & Human Smuggler occupation.

How can private citizens just build a wall?

As annoying as the answer is how can we not? The Arizona State Government has stated that this is a Federal Government issue and actively pursues the issue as long as voters are watching. The Federal Government, through Janet Napolitano, has stated they have done their job securing the border and done it well! Yet we have all seen the signs warning American citizens not to travel in areas of Arizona due to safety concerns about the drug and human smuggling activities in the area. I think the last stat I read was 80 square miles of Arizona has been taken over by these invaders. If its not the States problem and the Federal Government doesn’t think its a problem then it is time for American citizens to stand up, take back some of the power they have lent to the government, and get the job done.

The border patrol agents, the local/county/state law enforcement agents, and citizens that have died because of our unsecured borders have lost their God given rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Since government is a reflection of the governed I can’t help but think “We The People” are responsible for those lives. Please don’t misunderstand me. I’m not suggesting a coup d’etat although some might right now.

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.” – Thomas Jefferson.

What I am suggesting is a little healthy Civil Disobedience “Let every man make known what kind of government would command his respect, and that will be one step towards obtaining it.” – Henry David Thoreau

I admit this isn’t planned out to the Nth degree and wrapped in a pretty bow but my heart, my mind, and through prayer my soul agrees that it is altogether necessary. As of right now the plan is to ask the private citizens and the Indian Nations for the necessary land. As far as government owned lands the political pull of a few million people will hopefully be enough to allow us to build. If not we’ll re-evaluate our options.

How would you coordinate 2 million people?

We would use the talent of those that have volunteered. There are bound to be many military, law enforcement, and construction/engineer volunteers. We will tap them and their experience organizing large groups to come up with a game plan.”

This plan sounds reasonable to me. After all, this person tried to do something about it:

Jan Brewer signing AZ IM Law

Then this person sued her:

us-attorney-general-eric-holder1

And then this person castigated her in front of the whole world:

Obama & illegals

And this person, instead of protecting our borders:

janet-napolitano

Gave us this:

tsa

I won’t pretend to know, guess or understand what the feasibility of citizens building their own wall would be, but I applaud any one group or individual attempting to Advance Freedom, protect our nation and bring about the “change” we so desperately need.

And if you have any doubts that one person can make a difference, remember this: because of this one person:

We had this:

Any interested citizens who want to participate in this project can sign up here, ask questions or make a phone call.
You can follow them on twitter: @GreatWallOfAZ
Facebook

When our own government fails to protect us, it may be time to take matters into our own hands.
And FYI they are not asking for money, only people to assist.
Crossposted at Conservative Outlooks

COMMENTS

  • http://www.redstate.com/etcartman Kenny Solomon

    ……and in a sane environ, all that would be needed are design and print, get a contractor and build it. But then, we’re not in any kind of sane environ and the permitting process alone has gone ICLEI all the way in many towns and counties.

    On any of the government-owned land – especially Federal – good luck. You’ve got a better chance of being struck by lighting twice on a clear day, plus hitting the state lottery and national power ball that evening.

    • texasgalt

      don’t worry about permits to build tunnels to the American side.

      You’d think American citizens might be allowed to build a fence . . . in their own defense. A legitimate government wouldn’t ignore such a basic duty.

  • http://thesandsinstitute.org Vassar Bushmills

    But these days it’s good for dreamers to step forward. That’s how this whole shootin’ match got started. Hat’s off again to your ability to find these little stories tucked away out of sight. Happy Christmas.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    Here’s another reason that the *regular* people of America are going to have to take it upon themselves to build the fence.

    • E Pluribus Unum

      I do appreciate how often you end up exchanging email or phone conversations with some of the people directly involved.

      • ladyimpactohio

        The gentleman who is trying to organize this, David Garretson, fixed my personal website when it went bananas and “broke apart.” I didn’t ask, I just mentioned in passing it was messed up. He volunteered and voila! fixed.

        What a nice guy.

        • http://www.TheGreatWallOfArizona.org thegreatwallofarizona

          Happy to help!

    • dudette

      BTW? Thanks

      • E Pluribus Unum
        • E Pluribus Unum

          I just very much liked the way it was labelled :)

      • E Pluribus Unum
  • Scope

    and I am never against any organizations that take our border security seriously. There has also been another group, The Minuteman Fence Project, I think it is called. They have been building border fencing for the past few years, as they receive donations from the public. Maybe these two organizations could work together. On the Minuteman site, they are actively looking for property owners along the border to build the fencing on. Every foot is a step in the right direction.

    • http://www.TheGreatWallOfArizona.org thegreatwallofarizona

      Looked into the Minuteman Fence Project (MFP) and they seem to have a different ideology but I think some synergy could be accomplished. The MFP collects money and puts that money towards building a fence where as TheGreatWallOfArizona.org are trying to get a community involved in building the wall. Getting people involved in the building will hopefully create ownership in the ideology behind building the wall. This ideology could be passed down to the next generation around the dinner table just like President Regan talked about in his farewell address. I will contact the MFP and see if we can work together.

      Thanks Scope for the info!

  • georgeinla

    to support it and provide permits on private land, you could maybe get somewhere. You still might have a conflict with the feds though, if they assert some kind of federal jurisdiction over even construction permits as they affect the border. It would be a good issue though, to force them to stop private citizens from building walls on their own property.

  • Leon H. Wolf

    That neither the federal government, the state government, county or municipal governments, any of the Indian Reservations, or any of the dozens (if not hundreds) of private individuals who own land on or near the border have any objection to a giant makeshift wall being built on their land by random private citizens with no experience in construction. Because otherwise this is a giant exercise in Internet self-stimulation.

    It does not matter how many people you get together; if you do not have the legal permission to be on and erect a structure on land the only thing you’re going to accomplish is a bunch of people in jail for trespassing and also facing private trespass suits.

    Shorter this comment: You cannot just build a giant freaking wall on property you don’t own, no matter how many volunteers you have. And unless you have the proper licenses and permits, you can’t even do it on your OWN land.

    • http://seekingliberty.wordpress.com fmaidment

      We can’t just go down there and build a wall, much as we might like to. The rights of the property owners trump our desire to do what we feel the government ought to be doing.

      However, if the individual land owners invite people to come and build on their land, I don’t see any problem. And frankly, I don’t give a damn about permits on private land. If I want to build a fence on my own land, then the government shouldn’t be able to stop me, unless it gets so tall that it becomes a hazard to aerial navigation, is so massive that its structural integrity becomes a public concern or somehow physically obstructs a waterway or right-of-way…

      So if the land owners invite or give permission to private citizens to come and build a reasonably strong fence along the border at their own expense, who are we to argue? But if they just want to go over there and do it, they are simply beligerent.

      • Leon H. Wolf

        Is that it takes exactly one landowner to bollox up the whole plan. What is the point of a wall with holes in it?

        For that matter, what is the point of a wall that does not close off the whole border? Allow me to answer that:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maginot_line

        Of course, there is no way in hell the Indian reservations are going to allow this, much less the feds. So the point is moot.

        • Leon H. Wolf

          Also, the reason you need a permit to build on your own land, particularly if this project is going to involve people who have no expertise in, you know, building things, is that the people who own the property around you are entitled to some level of protection from the possibility that the crap you build on your land will not fall over onto theirs.

        • http://www.TheGreatWallOfArizona.org thegreatwallofarizona

          This is actually a self fixing problem. Lets say land owner Joe doesn’t want a wall built on his land but all of his neighbors do. The gap will be on Joe’s land and where do you think all the armed drug runners and coyotes are going to cross the border…that’s right Joe’s place. How long do you think Joe will allow thousands of people many of which are armed and dangerous to trample his land. My guess would be not long. It wouldn’t surprise me if in a couple of months we get a call saying hey can you come down here and finish the wall. Even if Joe doesn’t cave it will be substantially easier for border patrol to monitor the gaps in the wall than if there is no wall at all.

  • marshmom

    I would LOVE to see this come together. Even if our fauxderal government tried to stop it, wouldn’t that make great headlines??? It’s one thing for the DOJ to sue Jan Brewer and the “State of Arizona”, but to sue millions of American’s who only want to protect our country? What a PR nightmare!

    Our country was founded on big dreams and quashing tyranny–I say Long Live American Dreams!

  • tex41lb

    Valid limits are only opportunities to be overcome. Any thoughts for solving the problems you bring up?