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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1808</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agrees that there are times when "extreme measures" are justified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agrees that there are times when &#8220;extreme measures&#8221; are justified.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1807</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is not only counterproductive to call waterboarding "torture," it doesn't stand the test of logical examination.

Nobody (except a masochist) volunteers for torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is not only counterproductive to call waterboarding &#8220;torture,&#8221; it doesn&#8217;t stand the test of logical examination.</p>
<p>Nobody (except a masochist) volunteers for torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1806</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 00:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no one volunteers for the latter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no one volunteers for the latter</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1805</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 00:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1804</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 23:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But my suggestion that some of us should volunteer to be waterboarded was answered by Ann Coulter Wednesday night.  She claimed that many news people have already dones so.  I wish I had some confirmation and video to prove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But my suggestion that some of us should volunteer to be waterboarded was answered by Ann Coulter Wednesday night.  She claimed that many news people have already dones so.  I wish I had some confirmation and video to prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1803</link>
		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's what I say to that:

Screw "moral authority".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what I say to that:</p>
<p>Screw &#8220;moral authority&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 13:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...</description>
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		<title>By: LibRick</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1800</link>
		<dc:creator>LibRick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 11:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>over 50 years as Catholics...only been married for 30 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>over 50 years as Catholics&#8230;only been married for 30 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1799</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 07:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"waterboarding is not torture."

But I still say that it's also key to not let the misstatements and outriight lies get by without correction.  By accepting the statement, he left the impression it was valid, which it wasn't.  That's not the first time I've heard that claim, either, and it was challenged that time, which is the only reason I knew it was wrong.

I did like the woman, Pamela Geller, of Atlasshrugs.com.  She was brief and to the point.  Greg Buttle was pretty good, too--"Cane 'em."  And I missed the name of the Democrat.  It was Steve Murphy.

I would also like to see one of us, whether Sean or Glenn or anybody, volunteer to be waterboarded on TV.  It would pretty much shut up the claims of both being "chicken-hawks" and that waterboarding is torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;waterboarding is not torture.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I still say that it&#8217;s also key to not let the misstatements and outriight lies get by without correction.  By accepting the statement, he left the impression it was valid, which it wasn&#8217;t.  That&#8217;s not the first time I&#8217;ve heard that claim, either, and it was challenged that time, which is the only reason I knew it was wrong.</p>
<p>I did like the woman, Pamela Geller, of Atlasshrugs.com.  She was brief and to the point.  Greg Buttle was pretty good, too&#8211;&#8221;Cane &#8216;em.&#8221;  And I missed the name of the Democrat.  It was Steve Murphy.</p>
<p>I would also like to see one of us, whether Sean or Glenn or anybody, volunteer to be waterboarded on TV.  It would pretty much shut up the claims of both being &#8220;chicken-hawks&#8221; and that waterboarding is torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 05:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a) to compare waterboarding to The Rack and other real tortures

and b) that us special forces train by being waterboarded and that no one volunteers for actual digit removal, disfigurement and excruciating pain for hours

and Hannity needs to quit comparing waterboarding to killing enemies in custody

concentrate on how waterboarding is not torture

and even if we had once mis-defined it as such, that should not bind us now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a) to compare waterboarding to The Rack and other real tortures</p>
<p>and b) that us special forces train by being waterboarded and that no one volunteers for actual digit removal, disfigurement and excruciating pain for hours</p>
<p>and Hannity needs to quit comparing waterboarding to killing enemies in custody</p>
<p>concentrate on how waterboarding is not torture</p>
<p>and even if we had once mis-defined it as such, that should not bind us now</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 05:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean Hannity let an easy one get by him this evening.  Democrat Steve Murray claimed that "we prosecuted the Japanese for waterboarding [after WWII] because we thought it was torture, and it was."  Sean just ignored it and went on with his own talking points.

What &lt;b&gt;should have happened&lt;/b&gt; was for Sean to point out that what the Japanese did during WWII was far removed from the procedure we do now that is called waterboarding.  Until we start correcting the misstatements, obfuscations, and outright lies of the unscrupulous or uninformed left, we are simply abdicating the field and letting them win without a fight.

Conservative spokesmen &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt; get all the facts, study the claims that have been made in Democrat talking points, and learn how to refute them.  The ones that are based on falsehoods of one kind or another should be easy to counter.  It's unconscionable to let them go without protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean Hannity let an easy one get by him this evening.  Democrat Steve Murray claimed that &#8220;we prosecuted the Japanese for waterboarding [after WWII] because we thought it was torture, and it was.&#8221;  Sean just ignored it and went on with his own talking points.</p>
<p>What <b>should have happened</b> was for Sean to point out that what the Japanese did during WWII was far removed from the procedure we do now that is called waterboarding.  Until we start correcting the misstatements, obfuscations, and outright lies of the unscrupulous or uninformed left, we are simply abdicating the field and letting them win without a fight.</p>
<p>Conservative spokesmen <i>must</i> get all the facts, study the claims that have been made in Democrat talking points, and learn how to refute them.  The ones that are based on falsehoods of one kind or another should be easy to counter.  It&#8217;s unconscionable to let them go without protest.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1796</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>weekend update editorial.  Too bad they'd never use it.

Great job, Leon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>weekend update editorial.  Too bad they&#8217;d never use it.</p>
<p>Great job, Leon.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagstaff</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1795</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagstaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I'm against torture, and I'm &lt;i&gt;for&lt;/i&gt; waterboarding.  I think they both should be "safe, legal and rare," under the right circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I&#8217;m against torture, and I&#8217;m <i>for</i> waterboarding.  I think they both should be &#8220;safe, legal and rare,&#8221; under the right circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1794</link>
		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 02:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to answer your question :-)  OBTW thanks for the kind words I appreciate it! and WOW 50 years that is something to CROW about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to answer your question <img src='http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  OBTW thanks for the kind words I appreciate it! and WOW 50 years that is something to CROW about!</p>
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		<title>By: LibRick</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1793</link>
		<dc:creator>LibRick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perhaps a bit of a thread jack but since I regularly read and respect  your views I'd like you to know: 

I'm personally against abortion of any kind at anytime. My family is too, as is my extended family. To my knowledge no one in my extended family or whole family tree has ever even considered abortion as an option. We're Italian-Roman Catholics and we live our faith. My wife and I, for more than 50 years. 

Just thought you might like to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps a bit of a thread jack but since I regularly read and respect  your views I&#8217;d like you to know: </p>
<p>I&#8217;m personally against abortion of any kind at anytime. My family is too, as is my extended family. To my knowledge no one in my extended family or whole family tree has ever even considered abortion as an option. We&#8217;re Italian-Roman Catholics and we live our faith. My wife and I, for more than 50 years. </p>
<p>Just thought you might like to know.</p>
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		<title>By: LibRick</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2009/05/05/safe-legal-and-rare/#comment-1792</link>
		<dc:creator>LibRick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stating the intention of the piece as I perceived it in order to be clear. I expressed no opinion on the matter, just took it  as a simple logical exercise.  

I try to be clear, maybe sometimes simplistic., I am lib and I like this site and respect all the opinions on it so I'd rather be perceived as a simpleton than a troll . 

"Simpleton," now there's an opening for everyone to take shots :)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stating the intention of the piece as I perceived it in order to be clear. I expressed no opinion on the matter, just took it  as a simple logical exercise.  </p>
<p>I try to be clear, maybe sometimes simplistic., I am lib and I like this site and respect all the opinions on it so I&#8217;d rather be perceived as a simpleton than a troll . </p>
<p>&#8220;Simpleton,&#8221; now there&#8217;s an opening for everyone to take shots :)!</p>
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		<title>By: bk</title>
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		<dc:creator>bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never noticed the connection.

(* rolls eyes *)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never noticed the connection.</p>
<p>(* rolls eyes *)</p>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
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		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>terrorists with waterboarding!  I personally would love to kill the terrorists but it seems the federal government does not.  I might also get you to see the difference vis a vis the innocent and the murderous.  You know those infants don't get a chance to beg for their lives now do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>terrorists with waterboarding!  I personally would love to kill the terrorists but it seems the federal government does not.  I might also get you to see the difference vis a vis the innocent and the murderous.  You know those infants don&#8217;t get a chance to beg for their lives now do they?</p>
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		<title>By: dgulla</title>
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		<dc:creator>dgulla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gonzo55:

Your post is absurd. I am all for a big tent, but a political party has to have a few non-negotiable pillars. To be a Republican, you must be strong on life, pro-freedom, for family values, and for a strong national defense. You are proposing allowing those who would weaken America to have a voice in the party. Not on MY watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gonzo55:</p>
<p>Your post is absurd. I am all for a big tent, but a political party has to have a few non-negotiable pillars. To be a Republican, you must be strong on life, pro-freedom, for family values, and for a strong national defense. You are proposing allowing those who would weaken America to have a voice in the party. Not on MY watch.</p>
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		<title>By: LibRick</title>
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		<dc:creator>LibRick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is that by plugging in waterboarding for abortion, a clear dissonance of argument made by the left is well illustrated.  

If that is the case then to be pro-abortion would mean you would be pro- waterboarding, for consistency's sake. So by the same reasoning shouldn't those that are pro-life be anti-waterboarding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is that by plugging in waterboarding for abortion, a clear dissonance of argument made by the left is well illustrated.  </p>
<p>If that is the case then to be pro-abortion would mean you would be pro- waterboarding, for consistency&#8217;s sake. So by the same reasoning shouldn&#8217;t those that are pro-life be anti-waterboarding?</p>
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