You have helped to inspire a column I am working on concerning who is to blame for the 49 murders/day in America…

Turns out he was a socialist.

It doesn’t surprise me a much since the Nazi’s are avowed socialists.

Further proof that lumping conservatives and Nazi’s in the same political arena is a lefty smear against conservatives.

Now shoo.

I had no idea that the Daily Kos had this much influence on the contributors to this site.

What’s happening to the conservative movement? Limbaugh rants that the Holocaust shooter was really a liberal and everyone caves and nods in agreement. Gaffneny writes that Obama is really “America’s First Muslim President” and cites a bunch of lame reasons for his claim and not one conservative with any horsepower expresses anything related to common sense regarding his article in the Washington Times. What’s going on? Are Conservatives doomed to be the laughing stock of the nation with their hairbrained declarations? And you think Daily Kos is off the wall? Come on now, pick yourselves up, dust yourselves off and get with being a responsible movement.

The right believe in the individuals liberty, not that of one group, religion, sex, party, race etc; therefore, it is the left wing extremists that are responsible for hate groups and that includes Rev Wright and this wack job from yesterday whose name I will not commit to memory.

There it is cased closed, I have decided to change the lexicon and there you have it, left wing nut job murders one at the Holocaust museum.

The Nazis and Fascists and racial hate groups have no relation to us. Rather the Nazi’s and Fascists have their ideological basis in the socialist camp. The white supremacist groups are either Nazi’s or KKK related with the KKK being a splinter of the Democrat party.

And yes it does use the standard lefty smear.

The Nazis hated Jews, Communists, Homosexuals, Capitalists, Catholicism, and pretty much anything else that wasn’t “The German People.” It was a disgusting hodge-podge of hatred, and despite my best efforts (studying insane religious and political views are a bit of a hobby of mine) I have yet to find an intellectually coherent strand tying the movement together. I suspect that this is because Hitler essentially invented the movement, one based on solidarity through hate, and he was bat-stuff insane.

The reason Nazis are usually lumped in with the right is that both of their allies fit much more neatly into far-right ideology and that the far right-wing aspects of Nazism (supremacy and nationalism) were both more extreme and more horrifying than the far left-wing aspects (emphasis on the rights of the workers), which while prominent especially in Hitler’s early speeches, were rarely if ever turned into actual policy. In addition, Neo-Nazism picked up the supremacy and nationalism of Nazism, but (except in the case of the weirdest political philosophy I’ve ever encountered, “The Libertarian National Socialist Green Party), rarely adopts what are traditionally identified as “left-wing” extremist elements.

Now, as to the DHS report, I would opine that it’s not confusing me in the least. I just read what it said. In my reading, the DHS report does not equate conservatives with Nazis, Fascists, racists and similar groups. In fact, the DHS report doesn’t even mention conservatives at all. It pretty much only talks about “rightwing extremists,” who, as described by the DHS report, we know categorically, are not adherents to conservative values. They are, well, “extremists.” (Incidentally, the term “neo-Nazi” comes up only once in the report, and “fascists” not at all.)

Thus to suggest that “the report uses the standard lefty smear of equating conservatives with the Nazi’s Fascists, racists, and similar groups,” well, I just don’t get that from the report. I think that the only way to get that is to conflate all right of center groups into conservatives–or, to put it another way, to say that all right wingers are alike–and that’s clearly a ridiculous proposition.

So, yes, I’m totally with you that conservatism is an ideology based on individual liberty. I just disagree that the DHS report said anything at all about conservatives.

Having said that, I think that there are some on the left who conflate “conservative” and “rightwing” to the point where conservatives (and especially neocons) are considered “extremist.”

Likewise, I think that there are some on the right who, having heard these lefty conflations so often, have come to think that every time someone mentions “rightwing extremists,” they’re talking about conservatives.

But, I’d say they’re both wrong.

Thus, I’d argue that all of us (and I’m including my occasionally hot-headed self in this) ought perhaps to be more careful with our rhetoric. We should listen more to the other side(s) and try to figure out exactly what everyone is saying rather than jumping to conclusions based not on fact but on our own projections. I really do think that we would then find more commonality than disagreement in the totality of our beliefs.