NRSC Communications Director Brian Walsh Attacks RedState for Reporting Facts.


Right up front I want to say that unlike a lot of people, I don’t want to see the NRSC burned to the ground wholesale. They perform an important function that couldn’t  easily replaced by others at this moment in time. But they are receiving some bad advice and making some bad calls. Apparently, they did not learn from the mistakes of 2006 and the Lincoln Chafee debacle, and are determined to make these mistakes. However, the errors of this cycle will be even more egregious because this time, the NRSC does not even have defending incumbency as an excuse.

In any event, earlier this afternoon, I received a polite (if clearly frustrated) email from someone in the NRSC’s communications department. I have reproduced that email in its entirety (with one editorial note I could not resist) below the fold. We discovered later today, however, that NRSC Communcations director was responding to this story by personally attacking RedState, going on the attack on the DeVore campaign, and belittling California activists who dared to connect the dots in the same (eminently logical) way we did. A San Francisco activist sent Mr. Walsh a polite email asking for clarification of the matter, and Walsh sent this astonishing email in response:

From: Walsh, Brian [mailto:bwalsh@nrsc.org]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 4:53 PM
To:
Subject: Re: new DeVore web video and Carly’s Twitter Delight
 
it’s remarkable that you ask me if it’s true and then attack us in the last graph making clear you already believe it to be.

A few points though -

1) The allegation made in that RedState post is 100 percent false. It would be laughable if not for the fact that folks like yourself actually believe it to be true. I can assure you we have far more important things on our plate than trying to add twitter followers to one of the 30 races we have this cycle. Bottom line, it’s completely false. And btw, if we were that successful at adding twitter followers don’t you think we would start with our own @nrsc account? Like you though, we only want real followers.

2) The blogger from RedState never contacted us before posting it – presumably because facts unfortunately do not matter for some.
3) Our new media director Katie Harbath contacted this blogger when we saw it ourselves and gave him an on the record denial. Hours later, we are waiting for him to post it as he told us he would.

4) I further noted that Mr. DeVore’s surrogates spread this false attack online this afternoon over Twitter. Like RedState, they never contacted us to verify whether it was true or not. I would also note this is not the first time his campaign has spread distortions about the Committee. It’s a questionable and unfortunate political strategy to say the least.

5) I have since noted on twitter that Mr. Ramirez himself must have noticed this false rumor because he posted a tweet clarifying that he was referring to us having provided the room, tables, and chairs for his reception. That was it.

6) I agree with you that some are using “acorn-esque” tactics. I can assure you though that it’s certainly not on our end.

You ask below – “Aren’t we supposed to be focusing our energies on Barbara Boxer?”

Again, I agree – but would respectfully suggest you instead pose that question to Mr. DeVore’s campaign and to this RedState blogger.

You can believe me or not but those are the facts. Have a good weekend.

- Brian

Ladies and Gentlemen, your NRSC communications shop at work! This email deserves fisking below the fold.

Mr. Walsh says:

1) The allegation made in that RedState post is 100 percent false. It would be laughable if not for the fact that folks like yourself actually believe it to be true. I can assure you we have far more important things on our plate than trying to add twitter followers to one of the 30 races we have this cycle. Bottom line, it’s completely false. And btw, if we were that successful at adding twitter followers don’t you think we would start with our own @nrsc account? Like you though, we only want real followers.

I agree! It is laughable. I would not believe it myself if I did not see the dots connected right before my eyes. As I said in my post earlier today, the error is a venial and silly one, which is part of what makes it so disturbing and unforced.

2) The blogger from RedState never contacted us before posting it – presumably because facts unfortunately do not matter for some.

The other explanation is that the blogger in question has experience working in comms himself and knows good and well that the comms shop of a political organization is not the place one goes for unvarnished “facts.” The media goes there because they feel an obligation to print the spin the political comms guys put on things in an effort to appear objective. I’m remarkably unconstrained in my profession (the one for which I am entirely unpaid) by any such need to either seek out or treat as respectable the horseapples spun by political comms people.  Again, I don’t begrudge them doing their job, it’s just that their work product is not that interesting to me.

3) Our new media director Katie Harbath contacted this blogger when we saw it ourselves and gave him an on the record denial. Hours later, we are waiting for him to post it as he told us he would.

This is true, Ms. Harbarth did indeed contact me, and we had an email conversation. As Ms. Harbarth can surely verify, all of the emails ended, “Sent from my Verizon Wireless Blackberry.”  See, going along with the whole “I’m not paid to do this” thing, I have a job and a family life that sometimes take priority over promptly getting to a computer to reprint a denial which I flatly do not believe (I told Ms. Harbarth that I did not believe her denial but I would print it anyway).  When I *did* return to my computer, I was informed that Mr. Walsh was sending out emails like the one above, and I thought it was necessary to print a more complete picture of what the NRSC comms shop is up to tonight.

4) I further noted that Mr. DeVore’s surrogates spread this false attack online this afternoon over Twitter. Like RedState, they never contacted us to verify whether it was true or not. I would also note this is not the first time his campaign has spread distortions about the Committee. It’s a questionable and unfortunate political strategy to say the least.

If I understand this correctly, their complaint here is that a political campaign spread an attack against their opponent without contacting their opponent to get their side of it… in the interest of fairness, I guess? Really, I think I’m just going to let that one sink in on its own.

5) I have since noted on twitter that Mr. Ramirez himself must have noticed this false rumor because he posted a tweet clarifying that he was referring to us having provided the room, tables, and chairs for his reception. That was it.

I have since noticed that the “clarifying tweet” in question was posted almost immediately after Ms. Harbarth initially emailed me. I wonder, indeed, how he “noticed” that the rumor was spreading. Unfortunately, Mr. Ramirez’s “clarification” simply does not pass the smell test; he specifically thanked the NRSC for their help and attributed his thousands of new twitter followers to the help of the NRSC.  The “clarification” that he really was just thanking them for tables and chairs and has no idea how he got all those twitter followers is… well, frankly, it’s what I’d expect out of a political comms shop. See now why I don’t even bother to ask?

Since beginning this post, I have learned that Walsh continues to send out emails blasting RedState and DeVore! His latest offering:

From: Walsh, Brian [mailto:bwalsh@nrsc.org]
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 5:45 PM
To: [redacted]

Subject: Re: new DeVore web video and Carly’s Twitter Delight
 
You cannot possibly be serious. What personal attack did I make exactly?

I’ve not only been a gentleman but I’ve been more than fair and forthcoming in taking the time to address a series of false accusations.

So I understand this though – a blogger with RedState posts a false and unsubstantiated story. With no proof and without even taking the time to ask the very party they were making the false attack about.

Surrogates for the DeVore campaign then spread that false attack – similarly, without taking the time to determine whether or not it’s actually true.

Yet, in your view, instead of questioning those tactics you instead suggest the onus is on us to disprove it? That it’s our responsibility to find out who is behind this? How do you propose we do that exactly?

Respectfully, this is ridiculous. If there are those who want to create – and spread – false rumors against fellow Republicans, they can do that. We have more important things to do though – like focusing on winning elections against the Democrats next year.

I laid out the facts for you. Like I said, whether or not you want to believe it or not is up to you. I do hope you have a good weekend though.

Brian 

Let me get this straight – my story was “false” and “unsubstantiated” and was submitted with “no proof.” I suppose, in the mind of Brian Walsh, that the open admission of one of the principals that NRSC was helping him get thousands of twitter followers constitutes “no proof.” In the land where real people live, this constitutes “dispositive proof.”

Furthermore, given that Al Ramirez attempted to blackhole the tweet in question (remember that we only have it at all due to a screencap) it doesn’t seem that it would have been very fruitful to seek a straightforward answer from Mr. Ramirez. And as far as seeking a response from the NRSC? Well, we’ve seen how they respond.

Below, I will reprint all of Katie Harbarth’s initial email to me, as I initially promised to do. But somewhere along the line it might be worthwhile for the NRSC to ask whether lashing out at honest activitsts who are volunteering their time and money for the cause of electing Republicans is a productive use of their time; And if they find themselves beseiged on all sides by people who don’t trust their word and are conspiring against them, maybe they ought to consider whether their organization has earned this distrust over the last several yaers, and whether they are engendering yet more with their interference in Florida and California now.

From: “Harbath, Katie” [redacted]
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:09:06 -0400
To: Leon Wolf [redacted]

Subject: Your post about the NRSC
 
Leon,
I wanted to respond to your post about the twitter followers in California. You are pulling this out of thin air ["thin air" being used here as a euphemism for "Al Ramirez's twitter feed" - LHW]. On the record, we had absolutely nothing to do with this. If I can answer any questions at any time please contact me day or night. All of my information is below.

Katie Harbath



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Wow.

sacody Friday, October 30th at 10:55PM EST (link)

Honestly, this story is so bizarre; I am not sure what to make of it. I hope that the NRSC is not wasting time and money doing stupid things like this. If they are, somebody needs to do some restructuring of the NRSC immediately. We cannot go into 2010 with this type of garbage occurring and losing seats as a result of sloppy work and pointless projects like this!

 

It's called tough love.

NeoKong (Diary) Friday, October 30th at 11:06PM EST (link)

Leon wouldn’t do it if he didn’t care.

Follow me on Twitter.

 

Me thinks he doth protest too much. nt

Xasteius (Diary) Friday, October 30th at 11:10PM EST (link)

Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!

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The NRCC and NRSC are having a very bad week.

janis (Diary) Friday, October 30th at 11:10PM EST (link)

And they richly deserve it for acting in such dishonest and utterly stupid ways when the evidence was obtained fair and square to hang the lot of them. Figuratively speaking, of course.

Again, they need to know that “business as usual” is dead and buried. And RedState is leading the way in making that point. Apparently the good old boys need to have it made daily at this juncture. When Erick and Leon only need to smack them around twice a week, then we’ll know that they have learned something.

Idiots do that

Tbone (Diary) Friday, October 30th at 11:30PM EST (link)

52 times a year.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 

I wouldn't even compare the NRSC and NRCC here

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 6:31AM EST (link)

What the NRSC is doing, and has been doing, is so far bey ond the one big mistake the NRCC made so far this cycle, that it demeans our accusations against the NRSC even to bring up the NRCC.

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Disagree somewhat.

NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 8:56AM EST (link)

Certainly this case is all about the NRSC, but there have been instances this year where they’ve worked together to push out a conservative candidate to make room for a moderate. One example is the Senate race in Colorado It just hasn’t gotten the same amount of attention.

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Well, then write a diary about it

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 9:52AM EST (link)

This post is about the NRSC, not the NRCC.

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You made it about the NRCC.

NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 10:49AM EST (link)

By saying what the NRCC made “one big mistake” this cycle. They’ve made more than one, as I just pointed out and previously wrote a diary about. But it’s not NY, CA or FL, so it doesn’t get a lot of attention.

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I was replying to Janis

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:08AM EST (link)

That may have been a mistake. But regardless, threadjack over.

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NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:16AM EST (link)

:-)

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I did it right though :-)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:19AM EST (link)

Follow the lines.

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Oh, right.

NightTwister (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:21AM EST (link)

I misinterpreted what you wrote. Ah well, all is good.

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They have no clue

JoeG Friday, October 30th at 11:11PM EST (link)

Who they are up against here. Just how many eyeballs are on this website? What’s more, of the highly active, money donating folks in the Republican base, what percentage are here?

 

Dear NRCC. Get. Back. To. Your. Job.

acat (Diary) Friday, October 30th at 11:33PM EST (link)

You know, the one where you recruit candidates in districts where they don’t currently exist, the one where you help existing candidates.

Stop creating candidates in districts that already *have* candidates.

This is not the mandate.

Get. Back. To. Your. Job.

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5555! They all think they are so much smarter than the "little people"

ColdWarrior (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 12:16AM EST (link)

who embrace the quaint notions that are set forth in the Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and the Republican Party Platform.

And who realize that if you run on those quaint notions, as Reagan did, you might. Just. Win. Every. Time.

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Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 9:54AM EST (link)

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This isn't about the NRCC (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 6:31AM EST (link)

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Carly's Delight?

caconservagirl Friday, October 30th at 11:49PM EST (link)

Why do you even call it Carly’s Delight when it seems that you have a beef with Al Ramirez? Carly isn’t even a candidate and he is!

This afternoon I signed up for twitter. Al Ramirez came up as one of my “suggested people to watch” as did Carly Fiorina. Most people out there just click finish instead of unselecting people (like I almost did!)

This is not the doings of the NRSC but Twitter itself. Hal just likes Al better than Chuck and Chuck just needs to quit crying about it.

So caconservagirl, are you really saying that 4000+ people signed up for twitter yesterday and all of them followed Carly and Al?

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 12:27AM EST (link)

Not that 4000+ new twitter accounts being created is odd, but it might be a little odd for 4000+ republican leaning individuals to all sign up and also all get the same recommended profiles.

“Suspension of disbelief” comes to mind.

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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It has nothing to do with being republican!

caconservagirl Saturday, October 31st at 4:56AM EST (link)

Probably more than 4000 signed up for Twitter yesterday, however, not all of them know that you can unselect the suggested 20 when you first sign up.

Just because, I signed up yesterday and they gave me 20 random twitter people to follow. I don’t care one iota about Nick Cannon, GMA or John Mayer but they showed up the first time along with Carly Fiorina. Al Ramirez has been showing up in this suggested 20 when you sign up as well. (I know because he came up when I refreshed my browser on that same suggestion page!) I never said if I was republican, democrat, liberatarian or communist. Those were the 20 that were suggested to me.

I mean can you rationally think that the NRSC is going out and doing this sort of thing? It is twitter for goodness sake! With only 140 key strokes at a time things can totally be taken out of context because rarely is there a complete thought posted.

I would think NRSC had better things to do with their time. Do you really think there is some grand conspiracy here? I think not. And those that do think so just have too much time on their hands.

Ok lets try this again caconservagirl...

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 12:26PM EST (link)

What I am saying is that it would seem to be a bit suspicious that 8000+ now, would all follow both Carly and Al. As you just stated in your last post the two were on separate lists of recommendation.

So it is your belief that 8000+ random people signed up for twitter and chose to follow Carly and then refreshed their browser until Al showed up so they could then follow him as well.

Totally random.

All of this despite the fact that some of us are on actual group lists that contain tens of thousands of tweeters, and still haven’t reached the followership that Carly and Al managed to garner, randomly, in a matter of 48 hours.

If that is the case I have a deal for you….you see, I won the South African Lottery and just need a bank account to cash the check. 15 billion is how much I won, if you give me your bank account number I will cash the check through your bank and give you 10%….deal?

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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ROTFLMAO....nt

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 12:29PM EST (link)

Aaron, that's gonna leave on heck of a bruise. nt

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Sure caconservativegirl going with it made me click it

Richard Mullins (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 12:44AM EST (link)

and see where that gets you. Absolutely Nowhere. Yeah, I don’t think that Al Ramerez would get all that followers(that’s what they call them in the Social Network world?) with someone starting it off. It probably started with spam followers and grew from there on out. I really don’t there could be anything else in the Social Network world unless you have a name that recognized. I think might to rethink what you’ve said.

For the record, I have yet to even signup for any social network. These things are ripe stuff like this to happen.

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Yeah, you just registered

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 6:35AM EST (link)

You know how you operate your own Twitter account? That’s what Chuck DeVore does, and what Carly Fiorina doesn’t do.

Nobody talks about Al Ramirez because Al Ramirez is a candidate that nobody cared about until the NRSC decided to use him as cover. He has no chance to win, has taken in what, $100 in donations, and is just another also-ran.

This is a two person race between Fiorina and DeVore. Have you read any of the polls?

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Yes it is a 2 person race

caconservagirl Saturday, October 31st at 2:52PM EST (link)

How can Chuck be in a two person race with a person who isn’t even a candidate? Fiorina isn’t a declared candidate and hasn’t filed her FEC paperwork. Therefore, she isn’t a candidate. Ramirez is.

Yes, I have read the polls. One Rasmussen poll a few weeks ago had Chuck at 21%, Carly at 20% and 59% undecided. Frankly, I am banking on the 59% undecided.

And honestly, who really cares about Twitter? Is popularity on Twitter going to win you an election? I think not.

Then why are you even in this thread?

Neil Stevens (Diary) Sunday, November 1st at 9:32AM EST (link)

If you don’t care about the porn/spam twitter follower scandal, why reply to this post to begin with?

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Tom Harman for AG

caconservagirl Monday, November 2nd at 5:23AM EST (link)

Did anyone here notice that the same thing is happening to Tom Harman? He went from having just a few hundred followers to over 16K in the same amount of time. The NRSC doesn’t have a vested interest in this race at all. Most of the follwers are the same as Fiorina and Ramirez.

Is it a conspiracy now? Is it really a scandal? Think not.

Way to not answer my question

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, November 2nd at 10:09AM EST (link)

Makes me think you have a vested interest in shilling for Fiorina or something.

Since the idea that the NRSC has no interest in this race is laughably wrong.

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Fiorina? I think not!

caconservagirl Monday, November 2nd at 4:35PM EST (link)

I haven’t made up my mind in the race as a republican and a resident of Califorina. But I will tell you this, I won’t vote for Carly Fiorina!

As a Young Republican, I hear alot of stigma about the party being that of the “old/middle aged white guy,” and frankly I am tired of it. Califorina is a diverse state and it is about time the party had more diverse candidates. Kudos to Al Ramirez for running and even being able to hold an event at the NRSC. I have heard him speak a few times, and I would like to know more about him before I make up my mind going into the primary.

What upsets me more, is that there is a logical explanation for this. I found it, as have others.Twitter is listing Fiorina, Ramirez, and Harman (amongst others) on it’s 20 suggested list. If you do not deslect those 20 random people they suggest then Twitter automatially adds them to your following feed. They are not porn or spambots or anything – they are just new users that don’t know any better!

However, some of the followers of these 3 candidates are legit. Even if just 10% are legit, that is still impressive for such a short amount of time.

This isn’t some grand conspiracy, and I didn’t say that the NRSC has no interest in this race. Boxer is weak, so they should take interest in what is going on in California! I just believe the NRSC has better things to do than come up with some grand scheme to ask one candidate to run, throw an event for another in the same race, then spam both candidates accounts with random Twitter followers then come out and deny the entire thing. It just seems too absurd!

 
 
 
 

Here's an equally idiotic question as yours, caconservagirl

civil truth (Diary) Monday, November 2nd at 10:24AM EST (link)

How can Gavin Newsom be in a two-person race with a person who isn’t even a candidate?

And a follow-up question.

How is that Gavin Newcom dropped out of the running for governor when he was the only declared candidate in the race?

And those questions with some good-faith effort and you find you won’t have a leg to stand on in this thread.

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NRSC, NRSC.

antisocial (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 12:31AM EST (link)

Stop this nonsense. Stop interfering in primaries. Get to real work folks. NOW.

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I kind of wish you were wrong

aesthete (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 1:40AM EST (link)

It would mean that the NRSC is not squandering its time and reputation on something as frivolous as adding twitter followers. However, their account makes no sense, and their dispatches, while civil, do little to clear up the record or to mend fences among online activists. Very poorly played on their part.

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“Aren’t we supposed to be focusing our energies on Barbara Boxer?”

redtillimdead (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 2:01AM EST (link)

Gotta agree

Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.

 

Typical of the Beltway mentality

Adjoran (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 3:00AM EST (link)

It’s the allure of power, privilege, and prestige which sucks in even many of those who go the Washington sincerely seeking a restoration of sanity. The trappings of power are intoxicating indeed, and being drunk with power leads to an insufferable arrogance.

“WE’re in DC and you are not. WE have the reins; sit down, shut up, and send in your checks like good little soldiers. When WE need something else from you, WE will let you know!”

Naturally, the syndrome comes with a disability to EVER admit you were wrong.

 

How is this any different than Obama vs Fox News?

bk (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 6:27AM EST (link)

Doesn’t it boil down to: “We hate you for catching us in lies”?

And you’ve got to love how when they get busted for fiddling in primaries trying to shoot down a Republican, they whine that you are not focused on defeating the Democrat. How is that any different than Dan Rather’s attempted (and equally unsuccessful) “fake but accurate” diversion when he got busted?

Isn’t this exactly the mentality that got the GOP from where it was in 1994 to where it was in 2008? They start out trying to break up the inside the beltway bunch and then over time become just another inside the beltway bunch themselves.

 

why shouldn't every NRSC member and consultant

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be terminated?
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Because they'd be firing themselves

Neil Stevens (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:09AM EST (link)

Not likely.

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Looks like we need to take back the NRSC

Darin_H (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:25AM EST (link)

the NRSC clearly has a case of the stupids.

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This is a battle the NRSC cannot win!...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:26AM EST (link)

They had better get to work for 2010 and stop playing like children around the internet. They obviously are paying some extremely unintelligent people and are WASTING money. I would think they would find it in their best interest to 1) hire bloggers and 2) have those bloggers give the straight and honest truth.

Games will NEVER work on the RIGHT side of the divide because WE deal in the FACTS not the emotions that the left deals in. Chuck DeVore has made a name for himself by being active & honest on the internet and the NRSC could do themselves a big favor by doing the same.

And that, folks, is a grand slam...'specially this line:

eburke (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 12:48PM EST (link)

“Games will NEVER work on the RIGHT side of the divide because WE deal in the FACTS not the emotions that the left deals in”

Make sure you touch ‘em all, Jaded.

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I wasn't for the dissolution of political orgs...

becolt (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 11:54AM EST (link)

…until this year. Now I see yet another argument for making candidates stand on their records, bios, and principles to get elected without ANY caucuses or large groups like the NRSC. I say lose the party and find stand alone human beings we can choose to believe will or will not represent us.
hmm, close to what Hoffman has done.

Groups like this are useful for one thing as far as I can tell, as an example: The Cong. Prog. Caucus. We know that if the politician is part of this group, they are either full members or ideological brethren of socialist organizations.

 

NRSC? NRCC? GOP? NAACP?

harlan Saturday, October 31st at 12:02PM EST (link)

I don’t give a damn which letters you use.

obama would not currently be dismantling the United States of America if in the last twenty years, elected republican politicians had acted like the principled conservatives that they’re supposed to be.

Power corrupts…

...and absolute power corrupts absolutely. nt

eburke (Diary) Saturday, October 31st at 12:48PM EST (link)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

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You know what?

Neil Stevens (Diary) Sunday, November 1st at 9:34AM EST (link)

If you can’t be bothered to know who the players are, then none of the above groups are really going to care about your opinion.

Being an informed critic has so much more weight than being an ignorant one.

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