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Well Done, NRSC

So Rudy Giuliani made it official today that he will not challenge Gillibrand for her NY-Sen seat.  For those who have not been keeping track, polls have shown Giuliani consistently leading Gillibrand by a relatively comfortable margin. By way of contrast, Gillibrand and Pataki (who will almost certainly get the GOP nod with Rudy out of the race) are currently neck-and-neck in polling. So, the NRSC’s failure to recruit Giuliani into this race, given NY’s partisan tilt, moves this race effectively from toss-up to leans dem territory.

Also today, yet another poll was released showing that North Dakota Governor John Hoeven would crush Byron Dorgan in a hypothetical matchup for Dorgan’s Senate seat.  The poll also showed Duane Sand (the presumptive GOP nominee in Hoeven’s absence) trailing Dorgan by a healthy margin. In other words, if the NRSC successfully recruits Hoeven, this race instantly becomes “Likely R” – if not, it remains “Likely D.” The problem here is that Hoeven said in 2008 that he would likely make a decision on his entrance into the race by September or October of 2009. That time frame has come and gone, and not a peep from Hoeven. Thus, while the time for Hoeven to enter the race has not passed (the official filing deadline is in next April), the signs do not look promising for Hoeven’s entrance into the race.

So, to recap, in 2 races where the NRSC could have recruited a candidate who polled better against the Democrats by double-digits, they are thus far 0 for 2.

On the other hand, they have succeeded in recruiting two completely unnecessary candidates in FL/CA who don’t poll better than the conservatives who were aready in the race, and in so doing, piss off activists in the respective states and conservatives nationwide.
 
So, you know, well done.

A personal note below the fold.

In the middle of the fracas last week with NRSC communications director Brian Walsh, I developed a severe GI virus which made concentration difficult, and decided on the advice of some people whose judgment I trust that the point had been made, and to drop the whole matter.  I have been told that Walsh showed up in the comments here and accused me of posting things here at RS that were ghost-written by Josh Trevino. This, of course, is something I cannot allow to go unanswered.

Although Mr. Walsh is presumably unfamiliar with my body of work at RedState and other sites, I assure him and anyone else reading this that I am perfectly capable of writing a series of fairly pedestrian posts criticizing Walsh’s efforts all on my lonesome.  As it happens, I thought the last post about Walsh was important enough that I sought the input of several writers whose judgment and editing skills I trust to provide their input on the piece.  I sent them emails with draft versions of the piece hours before it went up, and they are eyewitnesses to my craftsmanship of the piece in question. None of these individuals were Josh Trevino.  Additionally, I enlisted the help of our own Aaron Gardner to utilize Google Wave’s live editing service to allow people to edit the piece simultaneously. If Mr. Walsh desires, I can provide him with a screenshot of this Google Wave session.

Thank you for your indulgence in this personal matter.

COMMENTS

  • Aaron Gardner

    I will hook Brian Walsh up with a Wave invite so he can interact with other base voters on Wave.

  • http://www.erickerickson.org Erick Erickson

    Josh was not involved and it was a cheap shot to suggest he was involved.

    More than just Josh disagree with the NRSC’s arrogant behavior.

  • Thomas Crown

    Actually, I’m just an old-timer around here who happened to be one of those to whom Leon is referring. He speaks the truth.

    Walsh, if you’re reading this, writing styles are fingerprints, copain. Surely you’ve been subjected to enough of Josh’s writing by now to be able to tell the difference.

    More importantly, making Josh your bete noir is not a good way to say you’ve got this under control. Just a thought.

    • haystack

      mine, too, is on the list to which Leon and Thomas refer. This is not a Trevino story-it’s a Walsh/NRSC story, and Walsh is either lying or foolish-neither one of which bodes well for a “committee” talking us out of our money to put people in office we don’t even want there.

  • paint_it_red

    If the NRSC is not going to get it done, is there something we can do in the conservative blogosphere? Didn’t the liberal blogosphere draft Howard Dean into running for party chairman when Tim Roemer had been all but annointed?

    This is the third time I thought Giuliani would run for Senate and been disappointed, but I thought this time would be the charm. Still, we haven’t heard it yet from the horse’s mouth.

    If it is too late to do anything about Giuliani, what about Hoeven? Hoeven is a solid conservative, and I’d hate to see us lose out on him as well.

    • audax

      candidate meetings…

    • audax

      …Are you a precinct delegate? Are your like thinking friends precinct delegates? Precinct Captains? Are you electing each other to County, District, State, National Conventions?

    • gemimail

      Patty Murray and Russ Feingold would also be history but not with Republican candidates that could not get elected dogcatcher let alone against two entrenched incumbents. Control of the Senate is possible but not without top tier candidates in races like these in addition to North Dakota and New York.

  • Ben Domenech

    Who is Brian Walsh? Seriously, I’m not kidding. I’d like to know.

    I have no idea where this guy came from, but I am regularly surprised at the amount of time he spends throwing crap around online at the people who’ve done most of the grassroots legwork in his own party over the past several years.

    I assume he’s getting paid for the time he spends doing so? Paid with money raised from NRSC donors? Next time I see my old boss, Senator Cornyn, I’ll ask.

    In any case, add me to the list of people who saw Leon’s post and the process in which it was written. The idea that Joshua Trevino has to be secretive about his disagreements with anyone online is pretty ridiculous — he’ll tell you exactly what he thinks of you, and he’s not so weak as to need to send around sockpuppets to do his bidding.

    • fpete13527

      ….:http://www.politico.com/click/focus/brian_walsh.html

      .When I saw Tom Ridge in his background it said a lot. His actions since absolutley confirm he needs to go. Sen Cornyn’s judgement lately with respect to managers for candidates campaigns has been questionable

    • Sean Davis

      Ben,

      Brian Walsh is Bob Ney’s former hack. The guy is apparently as good at picking Senate candidates as he is at picking bosses who don’t go to prison.

      When Michael Scanlon plead guilty to corruption charges related to the Abramoff case, Scanlon’s plea agreement made numerous references to “Representative #1,” widely known to be Rep. Bob Ney. But Brian Walsh would have none of it.

      “Any allegation that Rep. Ney did anything illegal or improper is false,” Walsh told the LA Times on November 22, 2005, shortly after Scanlon entered his plea.

      Ney, who according to Walsh never did anything “illegal or improper,” plead guilty to conspiracy and fraud charges on September 15, 2006, less than a year after Walsh made his proclamation of innocence.

      • Ben Domenech

        Ah, the picture is clear as can be now.

        Thanks very much, Sean.

  • Sean Davis

    …reading stuff that Walsh writes makes me sick to my stomach, too.

    • bs
  • DavidSage

    I was a huge fan of Giuliani, and I’ve lost a lot of respect for him to just walk away from a Senate seat that this country really needs.

    In general, conservatives don’t seek elected office like liberals do. It’s consistently a problem on our side, and it’s the biggest reason why the Democrats have such lopsided numbers in Congress. The Senate should have a permanent Republican majority since Red States far outnumber Blue ones, but too many electable Republicans pass on the opportunity. I really don’t know what to do about it, but it sickens me.

    Conservatives need to look at this as their duty as patriots to run for office, especially with the the current stakes. I understand there are many sacrifices to holding public office, but that’s what a patriot does for their country.

    • http://charlemagne-the-hammer.blogspot.com/ DerKrieger

      When the people, and not the party or its arms, are asking you to run then I think you should run. Why would Giuliani NOT run? If he doesn’t run I don’t want to hear a word from him. Not one.

      • proudgop

        It is not NRSC fault that Guiliani balked nor will it be if Hoeven does ( I hope he runs PLEASE)

        They have made it simply clear they want both to run

        Send an email today to Gov Hoeven encouraging him to make the run

        governor@nd.gov

        • forscigrad

          I sent the Governor an e-mail begging him to run a couple of weeks ago.

          Byron Dorgan’s been representing himself and the liberal special interests since his days of passing bad checks in the House of Representatives. I really don’t understand why Duane Sand isn’t beating him senseless in the polls as well.

          My big regret is that we weren’t able to get former Governor (and Junkyard Wars finalist) Ed Schafer to finish off Kent “Tax Cuts Are Stealing From the Government” Conrad two years ago (or sooner).

        • acat

          Given they backed Crist even though the primary was so far away?

          Given they all but ignored DeVore?

          Given their inability to enunciate any sort of consistent conservative message?

          Maybe they didn’t say “Rudy, we want you to run (wink wink, nudge nudge) …” but .. does Rudy think he’ll get the backing he needs?

          Maybe Hoeven’s thinking “with friends like those …”

          Mew

          • RedBeard

            Proudgop, you seem to think we’re trying to damage the NRSC, for some evil reasons you haven’t been able to articulate. Do you not understand that it is already damaged, and we want it to be FIXED?

          • proudgop

            They want to elect Republicans and I think you don’t even consider yourself a Republican

            NRSC is not damaged they are raising a lot funds for 2010 cycle. They want to win seats you guys want to tear them down everyday its sad

            Focus your hate on Democrats

          • RedBeard

            I am a conservative and patriotic American who believes the Constitution means precisely what it says, and not one iota more or less. I do not have a GOP tattoo on my backside, and I follow no political banner blindly.

            The goal, Proudgop, is to defeat smarmy leftist Dems and replace them with proper representatives, as envisioned by the Founders. The goal is not to replace smarmy leftist Dems with slightly less smarmy Republicans.

          • penguin2

            Proudgop consistently has the mantra that the NRSC is right no matter what. Her constant pinging on our attempts to improve the choices the NRSC ultimately makes, always strikes a sour note with me. Clinging to what has been failed tactics and strategies, and giving us the Republicans we have in Congress now, has brought the party to this state. Her touting of same, is a non-starter for most of us here.

          • proudgop

            Even what you people call RINo’s like Dewine or lets say we have a Kik of Castle would have stopped Obamcare in Senate

            Letting your opponents get over 60 seats is not winning for us

          • penguin2

            how we start out. Our goal here at RedState, is to promote candidates that embody conservatism as a foundation. There is a wide difference between ideal and a candidate who is nothing more than a Dem masquerading in Republican clothing. The goal is to find the best candidate closest to our ideals and work toward making that candidate the winner. And I guess I’ll quit sounding like a broken record, as you are here to promote other than conservatives in our Republican party.

          • RedBeard

            To say that fighting to get true conservatives elected resulted in Obamacare is a pretty careless bit of “if this, then that” illogic.

            This just isn’t difficult, it’s really not. It’s only a two-step process:

            1. Find conservatives who can win a general election, work to get them the party’s nod, and then work to get them elected.

            2. If #1 fails, and we wind up with Lindsey Graham-type Republicans in the general election, then switch gears, hold nose, and work to get them elected in order to kick out far worse Democrats.

            Failing to do #1 is what got us second-tier candidate John McCain, and failing to do #2 is what got us Barack Obama. We cannot afford to make those mistakes again.

          • acat

            What I’m saying is that the GOP needs to take a more hands-off approach in the primaries. Remember those? The way the Republicans select candidates, unlike the smoke-filled rooms the Democrats used, back in the day?

            As I see it, you’re talking about the general election and the primary all at the same time, but the GOP role in both is very different.

            Mew

          • proudgop

            I don’t

            bloody primaries only help Dems. Leave nominee cash strapped and leave Republicans unable to unify

            just look at whole bunch of Dems in Republican districts and u see why

            I just don’t like attacking Republican ( we have difference of opinion here) ; just seems like every gop senator minus Coburn, Inhofe, and Demint are attacked on this site

          • RedBeard

            Please refrain from telling me what I want, particularly when you’re dead wrong.

          • acat

            There, we can both make stupid assumptions.

            Seriously, I don’t want bloody primaries, but I do want primaries that bring the best candidates to the forefront.

            I make a point of watching who releases what during the primaries and, if any of the Repubs are in attack mode against their fellow Repubs, violating the oft-cited 11th Commandment according to Reagan, I will not support them. In the primary.

            By the way, this is one place the Party really can make a difference – demand non-bloody primaries as the price of support in the general – and do it in public.

            Mew

          • JadedByPolitics

            They are SICK in their SOULS from too much “moderation”.

  • yankeedoodledandette

    Can I just say, OMG!

    RNC/GOP/NRSC hasn’t gotten the message in 20 YEARS?
    First call: Perot- NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-TWO!!!!!
    Wake up call: 2006
    EMERGENCY SIREN: 2008

    Yes, indeed, with friend like these….UGH! STOPPIT!! People like me haven’t worked our butts off all year long to be undermined by IDIOTS!

    GOOD GRIEF! What did Einstein say about insanity?

  • http://www.barrypopik.com barrypopik

    It’s too bad about Giuliani, but really, a solid party should be able to convince New Yorkers that Gillibrand and Schumer are not in their best interests.

    New York’s brilliant Democrat “representatives” only now realize that Obamacare is a complete disaster for New York?

    From Tuesday’s New York Post:
    A cipher in the Senate
    Posted: December 22, 2009
    Where were New York’s two US senators over the weekend, while Majority Leader Harry Reid was buying votes for his health-care bill?

    Standing by while New York taxpayers’ pockets were picked — that’s where.

    It’s obvious that Reid never would have secured the 60 votes he needed to pass his version of ObamaCare without bribery on a scale that would have made Boss Tweed blush.

    Nebraska, Louisiana and Vermont got theirs — hundreds of millions worth.

    But what about New York?

    Bupkis.

    To cite one example, Gov. Paterson warns that the state will lose between $1.1 billion and $1.25 billion a year under the Medicaid funding formula in the Reid/Obama bill.

    From Tuesday’s New York Daily News:

    Gov. Paterson, Mayor Bloomberg and other NY pols: Health care bill is prescription for disaster
    BY Erin Einhorn and Kenneth Lovett In Albany and Michael Mcauliff In Washington
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS
    Tuesday, December 22nd 2009, 4:00 AM
    The Senate health reform bill is packed with lumps of coal for New York’s Christmas stocking.

    Gov. Paterson, Mayor Bloomberg and other officials warned the Senate plan would:

    - Force the city to close 100 health clinics.

    - Blow a $1 billion hole in the state’s budget.

    - Threaten struggling hospitals, nursing homes and other facilities.

    “It is really a disgrace and we’ve got to make sure that we fight before the bill is finally passed,” Bloomberg fumed.

    New York ended up on the short end as Senate brokers showered cash on states whose senators were among the last holdouts before Democratic leaders locked up the 60 needed votes.

    New York’s best hope now is emergency surgery to undo the shafting before the bill becomes final.

    A health care overhaul passed by the House last month is more generous to the city and state, and negotiations over the differences start in January.

    Under the Senate plan, the biggest rewards go the states that, unlike New York, have been Scrooges to the poor in need of medical care.

    “We are in a sense being punished for our own charity,” Paterson said Monday.

    Paterson was also bitter that states like Massachusetts and Vermont, which were also generous, got last-minute deals that erase their extra costs.


    Bad medicine for N.Y.: Health bill provision that socks state for $1 billion must go
    Editorials
    Tuesday, December 22nd 2009, 4:00 AM
    (…)
    But Schumer and Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand came up short in fine-tuning the Medicaid expansion to be fair to New York. What should be a shared, national effort to cover uninsured Americans is turning into another example of Washington hitting up New York for taxes and shortchanging New York on benefits.

  • earlgrey

    The person that answered the phone asked me to email her why I wanted to governor to run. The number for his committee is 701-323-7660. I did and asked to be on the mailing list to make donations to his campaign if he decides to run.

    She said the Governor wants to hear from the people that want him to run. If you have some time, I would suggest calling or emailing to encourage the governor.

    • proudgop

      Thanks

      Not ND voters but pledge 2000 if he runs right away