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		<title>By: itrytobenice</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lukematthews/2009/07/10/michelle-antoinette/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>itrytobenice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you honestly think, after the past two cycles, that there is any large subset of voters that care only about substance? Even the so-called “moderates” who supposedly do so, but are really just sanctimonious know-nothings, mostly went out to vote for Obama.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Precisely.  We have to hit them where the people who voted for him will listen.  They don't care about 'socialism'.  Socialism sounds just great to them.  They don't care about 'nationalization'.  Nationalization sounds fine.

But blatant hypocrisy?  That will make some of them notice.  

And like Martin says, make them live up to their standards.  It's the new rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do you honestly think, after the past two cycles, that there is any large subset of voters that care only about substance? Even the so-called “moderates” who supposedly do so, but are really just sanctimonious know-nothings, mostly went out to vote for Obama.</p></blockquote>
<p>Precisely.  We have to hit them where the people who voted for him will listen.  They don&#8217;t care about &#8217;socialism&#8217;.  Socialism sounds just great to them.  They don&#8217;t care about &#8216;nationalization&#8217;.  Nationalization sounds fine.</p>
<p>But blatant hypocrisy?  That will make some of them notice.  </p>
<p>And like Martin says, make them live up to their standards.  It&#8217;s the new rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lukematthews/2009/07/10/michelle-antoinette/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Martin's right.  The Democrats are not interested in dialogue, bipartisanship, or mutual admiration societies.  They are interested in making the determination of American policy issues a purely internal matter among the several factions of the Democratic party.  They will only &lt;I&gt;stop&lt;/I&gt; being interested in that when we &lt;I&gt;make&lt;/I&gt; them stop being interested in that, and that means going after the faux-populist, elitist SOBs hammer and tongs.

Us or them.  Everybody reading this can make their own choice, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Martin&#8217;s right.  The Democrats are not interested in dialogue, bipartisanship, or mutual admiration societies.  They are interested in making the determination of American policy issues a purely internal matter among the several factions of the Democratic party.  They will only <i>stop</i> being interested in that when we <i>make</i> them stop being interested in that, and that means going after the faux-populist, elitist SOBs hammer and tongs.</p>
<p>Us or them.  Everybody reading this can make their own choice, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hinz</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lukematthews/2009/07/10/michelle-antoinette/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to bookmark this comment and trot it out anytime some "Moderate" chimes in with the Rodney King type "Why can't we all just get along" claptrap.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But if you refuse to help, can’t you at least be silent?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to bookmark this comment and trot it out anytime some &#8220;Moderate&#8221; chimes in with the Rodney King type &#8220;Why can&#8217;t we all just get along&#8221; claptrap.</p>
<blockquote><p>But if you refuse to help, can’t you at least be silent?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah!</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lukematthews/2009/07/10/michelle-antoinette/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After I tried to be nice in &lt;a href="http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/07/11/backers-of-sotomayor-lets-get-the-firefighter/#comment-756"&gt;my warning&lt;/a&gt; to you, too.

Good-bye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After I tried to be nice in <a href="http://www.redstate.com/hogan/2009/07/11/backers-of-sotomayor-lets-get-the-firefighter/#comment-756">my warning</a> to you, too.</p>
<p>Good-bye.</p>
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		<title>By: NickinOz</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lukematthews/2009/07/10/michelle-antoinette/#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>NickinOz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, deep breath...

Firstly, read my user ID Doofus. I live in Australia, and I grew up in New Zealand. I am not a democrat. In my 12 years as an eligible voter I have voted for both left and right wing parties in Aussie and NZ. Just FYI New Zealand (where I did my politics degree) has a more complex and nuanced political system than the 'them or us' system which basically operates in the USA, involving a variety of 3rd parties that have a substantive impact on governing the country. Pigeonholing, well, it just doesn't work so well.

So, why am I here? Because I am a hard core political junkie. I read Redstate and TPM for most of my US political gossip / views / etc. I generally enjoy just reading the comments, but it really does push my political irony button when I read threads telling the obamas what they should / shouldn't do with their wealth on a site that ostensibly holds a libertarian position on economics.

Also, does anyone know how I can sticky this post in my profile so I won't have to go through this again (I suspect it may come up from time to time).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, deep breath&#8230;</p>
<p>Firstly, read my user ID Doofus. I live in Australia, and I grew up in New Zealand. I am not a democrat. In my 12 years as an eligible voter I have voted for both left and right wing parties in Aussie and NZ. Just FYI New Zealand (where I did my politics degree) has a more complex and nuanced political system than the &#8216;them or us&#8217; system which basically operates in the USA, involving a variety of 3rd parties that have a substantive impact on governing the country. Pigeonholing, well, it just doesn&#8217;t work so well.</p>
<p>So, why am I here? Because I am a hard core political junkie. I read Redstate and TPM for most of my US political gossip / views / etc. I generally enjoy just reading the comments, but it really does push my political irony button when I read threads telling the obamas what they should / shouldn&#8217;t do with their wealth on a site that ostensibly holds a libertarian position on economics.</p>
<p>Also, does anyone know how I can sticky this post in my profile so I won&#8217;t have to go through this again (I suspect it may come up from time to time).</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lukematthews/2009/07/10/michelle-antoinette/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals have no problem telling everyone how to spend their money, when and where educate their kids, what they should eat, etc. 

So are you protesting because it offends you or because you don't want anyone else in on the act?

PS: Where were you when your fellow Democrats were bawling about the clothes the McCain Campaign used its own money to buy for Sarah Palin to wear at campaign stops?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals have no problem telling everyone how to spend their money, when and where educate their kids, what they should eat, etc. </p>
<p>So are you protesting because it offends you or because you don&#8217;t want anyone else in on the act?</p>
<p>PS: Where were you when your fellow Democrats were bawling about the clothes the McCain Campaign used its own money to buy for Sarah Palin to wear at campaign stops?</p>
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		<title>By: NickinOz</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lukematthews/2009/07/10/michelle-antoinette/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>NickinOz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn't that, umm, 'socialist'.

Ok sorry, I am baiting OP, but I just find this too funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that, umm, &#8217;socialist&#8217;.</p>
<p>Ok sorry, I am baiting OP, but I just find this too funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Knight</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/lukematthews/2009/07/10/michelle-antoinette/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Seems to me the other side’s thing is class warfare and not a Republican thing, and this complaint is about issues of class/status and not substance.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My question is; do you honestly think the American people give a ****? Do you honestly think, after the past two cycles, that there is any large subset of voters that care only about substance? Even the so-called "moderates" who supposedly do so, but are really just sanctimonious know-nothings, mostly went out to vote for Obama.

This is not about class warfare - this is about highlighting "their" hypocrisy. This is about hitting back. Remember Alinsky's Rule 4: "&lt;i&gt;Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.&lt;/i&gt;"

This is a fight on all fronts, Steve. No one is saying we should ignore substance. In fact, speaking for myself, I would be happy if substance were all, but that's not the case.

Bush spent 2005 to 2009 ignoring the media, being "above the fray" - how'd that work out?

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;But hey, go with what you’re good at.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Look ... you "moderates" are not known to be fighters. You don't like getting your hands dirty. And that's okay. That you want to be treated as being key to victories hard-won by conservatives, quite often in spite of your opposition instead of your support when it counted is also okay.  

But if you refuse to help, can't you at least be silent?

It really is a bit much to sanctimoniously insist on us following the rules while studiously ignoring the flagrant flouting of those same rules by the other side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Seems to me the other side’s thing is class warfare and not a Republican thing, and this complaint is about issues of class/status and not substance.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>My question is; do you honestly think the American people give a ****? Do you honestly think, after the past two cycles, that there is any large subset of voters that care only about substance? Even the so-called &#8220;moderates&#8221; who supposedly do so, but are really just sanctimonious know-nothings, mostly went out to vote for Obama.</p>
<p>This is not about class warfare - this is about highlighting &#8220;their&#8221; hypocrisy. This is about hitting back. Remember Alinsky&#8217;s Rule 4: &#8220;<i>Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a fight on all fronts, Steve. No one is saying we should ignore substance. In fact, speaking for myself, I would be happy if substance were all, but that&#8217;s not the case.</p>
<p>Bush spent 2005 to 2009 ignoring the media, being &#8220;above the fray&#8221; - how&#8217;d that work out?</p>
<blockquote><p><i>But hey, go with what you’re good at.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Look &#8230; you &#8220;moderates&#8221; are not known to be fighters. You don&#8217;t like getting your hands dirty. And that&#8217;s okay. That you want to be treated as being key to victories hard-won by conservatives, quite often in spite of your opposition instead of your support when it counted is also okay.  </p>
<p>But if you refuse to help, can&#8217;t you at least be silent?</p>
<p>It really is a bit much to sanctimoniously insist on us following the rules while studiously ignoring the flagrant flouting of those same rules by the other side.</p>
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		<title>By: Erick Brockway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erick Brockway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is exactly why we point it out when they show their true colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is exactly why we point it out when they show their true colors.</p>
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		<title>By: SteveLA</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin

Seems to me the other side's thing is class warfare and not a Republican thing, and this complaint is about issues of class/status and not substance.  But hey, go with what you're good at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin</p>
<p>Seems to me the other side&#8217;s thing is class warfare and not a Republican thing, and this complaint is about issues of class/status and not substance.  But hey, go with what you&#8217;re good at.</p>
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