Why We Home School


A mind is a terrible thing to indoctrinate

My wife and I have 4 children. Two of them are currently in home school. The other two will join the class when they reach kindergarten age.

I admit that I was originally lukewarm on the idea of home school. It was my wife who sold me on the concept and it is she that gave up her career to become a full-time, home school teacher.

My wife can wax poetic about the benefits of home schooling. She’s a positive person and is naturally inclined to discuss the joys and outcomes of home schooling. I, on the other hand, am a bit more cynical and suspicious. The benefits of home schooling are indeed worth trumpeting from the highest tower. Equally worth noting, however, are the progressive “educational” theories that are being avoided by not sending children to public schools. This is the flip side of the coin, and it takes a good cynic to wax poetic about it. So fasten your seat belts and grab a stiff drink, because you’re not going to like what’s being peddled in public schools.

There are two educational theories (aka “pedagogies”) that should give every conservative parent of a school age child great pause and substantial dread. They are “Critical Pedagogy” and “Multiculturalism.” Both theories are eagerly and broadly embraced by schools of education throughout our nation.

It is the job of schools of Ed to train future teachers. Those teachers, in turn, are set loose in the public schools to teach not only reading, writing, and arithmetic, but also progressive political ideology. They’re even trained to teach hard sciences, such as chemistry, within a progressive political bent.

In a nutshell, Critical Pedagogy trains teachers to become activists for social justice. It assumes that the United States is an oppressive culture deeply in need of socialistic revolution. Talk of hegemony (either corporate/capitalist or white/racial, take your pick) is to be liberally sprinkled throughout lesson plans. Here are some of Critical Pedagogy’s tenets from Joe L. Kincheloe, author of, “Critical Pedagogy.”

  • All education is inherently political and all pedagogy must be aware of this condition.

  • A social and educational vision of justice and equality should ground all education.

  • Issues of race, class, gender, sexuality, religion, and physical ability are all important domains of oppression and critical anti-hegemonic action.

  • The alleviation of oppression and human suffering is a key dimension of educational purpose. Schools must not hurt students–good schools don’t blame students for their failures or strip students of the knowledges they bring to the classroom.

  • Education must both promote emancipatory change and the cultivation of the intellect–these goals should never be in conflict, they should be synergistic.

  • The politics of knowledge and issues of epistemology are central to understanding the way power operates in educational institutions to perpetuate privilege and to subjugate the marginalized–”validated” scientific knowledge can often be used as a basis of oppression as it is produced without an appreciation of how dominant power and culture shape it.

  • Education often reflects the interests and needs of new modes of colonialism and empire. Such dynamics must be exposed, understood, and acted upon as part of critical transformative praxis.

Pretty wordy, eh? Welcome to higher education. Any carbon cap and trade schemes should be limited to muzzling the gaseous emissions of education professors. The world would be a better place. Also, as a further aside, I’d like to see the word, “pedagogy,” fall from the common vernacular of higher education. “Pedagogy” is one of those 50 cent words that I’ve come to truly loath, mostly because it drips constantly, like a leaky faucet, from the mouths of education professors.

OK, sorry for the tangent. Back to the topic . . .

Multiculturalism falls under the umbrella of Critical Pedagogy. It’s a specialization focusing mostly on race and gender, but more and more so, it also features sexual orientation (i.e. gay rights). Multiculturalism also assumes an oppressive American system that is rigged from top to bottom to benefit white people at the expense of “people of color.” (Or men at the expense of women; or heterosexuals at the expense of homosexuals . . . take your pick). Multiculturalism also features a good sized dollop of moral relativity. No non-western culture is seen as superior to another. However, the common denominator is that western culture is always the oppressive bully in the world neighborhood. Everyone else, culturally speaking, is equally good. It’s America that’s the problem (hegemony, colonialism, racism, blah, blah, blah, etc.). Multiculturalism is truly a definable subset within the world of Critical Pedagogy, with its very own corrosive theories such as “White Privilege” (for a better explanation of White Privilege, see my previous post on the topic from November 21, 2008).

Home schooling effectively avoids the extremely wacky educational theories of Critical Pedagogy and Multiculturalism. And, both are running rampant in public schools. In and of itself, home schooling’s benefits are legion (low student to teacher ratio, cross-generational exposure, flexibility, reinforcement of a healthy family dynamic, etc.). But, avoiding the socialistic indoctrination of the public schools is nothing to shake a stick at either.

Another side benefit of home schooling is that it likely drives William Ayers (distinguished professor of education, washed up domestic terrorist, and friend to Barack Obama) into a blind fury. Surprise! Ayers is a champion of Critical Pedagogy. Home schooling puts children outside the reach of Ayers’ efforts to bring his revolution from the streets to the schools. In some way, being a thorn in Ayers’ side also strikes me as a good thing; it’s another home schooling perk!

Perhaps in a future post on reasons to home school, I will discuss some of the other serious maladies within the public schools: twisted sex/health education and the teaching of evolutionism (mind you, this is not the teaching of the science of evolution. I don’t have a problem with that. If, however, evolution is used to make a case for atheism, then I do have a problem with that. The scientific method is incapable of proving or disproving the existence of God. Evolutionism does not belong in public schools).

Finally, Happy Thanksgiving to one and all here on Redstate! I’m fairly new to blogging on Redstate (or for that matter, blogging at all). But, here at Redstate, my wife and I have found an excellent community of thoughtful and respectful individuals. I’m honored to be a small part of that and I’ve learned much from reading the posts of fellow diarists.


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Great Post

jyalai (Diary) Wednesday, November 26th at 4:33PM EDT (link)

You have hit the nail on the head. Home schooling is a viable and preferrable option to more and more people, a choice we made eight nine years ago. We sacrifice a second income, but it is the best choice we ever made.

Our school system has been co-opted by Columbia University communist secular humanists. Unfortunately, large numbers of good conservative people who participate in the educational system don’t even know it.

As I keep saying, get your kids out of the system.

jyalai,

mailloux (Diary) Wednesday, November 26th at 4:54PM EDT (link)

Thank you for the comments and the recommend.

We’ve also given up a second income and it’s been worth every cent of it. We live frugally, but at least we live in peace knowing our children are not in the talons of America-hating extremists and their disciples.

From our home school to your home school, good luck and God Bless.

Have a Great Thanksgiving, mailloux

 
 

Right On!

WHAT (Diary) Wednesday, November 26th at 5:42PM EDT (link)

I sent my children to private schools and kept a sharp eye on what they taught, but if I had to raise children now I’d definitely opt for home schooling.

 

Long story: but I once got in a heated disagreement with my middle son's principal. . .

wag (Diary) Wednesday, November 26th at 6:44PM EDT (link)

After calling me a liar–and my husband and I heartless because our complaint to the school board caused them to close down his extortion tactics; bring $10 for Amusement Park to school and play all day OR don’t bring $10 and be stuck in the gym doing busy work. He pointed out because of our complaint many of the deserving kids wouldn’t be able to go to on the fun field trip, and for some of them it would be their only out-of-town excursion of the year. My husband said, “Let their parents take them. My middle school never took me to Disneyland.” To which the principal replied, “So, just because your school never took you, nobody should go?” And my husband said, “It is the school’s main job to educate our children–not to amuse them.” The principal replied, “No. It is NOT the school’s main job to educate the students. The school’s main job is to socialize the students.”

The next year we began home schooling.

Diary's worth a rec for this comment alone

Neil Stevens (Diary) Thursday, November 27th at 1:14AM EDT (link)

This is such an important topic.

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Nice post

Mark Malcolm (Diary) Thursday, November 27th at 5:52AM EDT (link)

My wife and I do not home school, but we considered it. She suffers from depression (under treatment and doing well, thanks0 so we decided to place our son and daughter in private christian school. We too are VERY happy we made that choice for all the reasons mentioned in the post and comments above. Vouchers would help eliminate the aforementioned issues but would also close down the main liberal recruiting and training centers so they’ll probably never happen.

I may not agree with what you say but I’ll defend your right to say it to the very death.

 

Excellent post and I hope that the home schooling...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 27th at 10:35AM EDT (link)

community grows. It is beyond belief what 40 years of liberalism has wrought on the public school system. I had to fight my children’s schools on Family Life Education opting them out of “different families” and my kids are in their twenties now….it is without a doubt indoctrination.

I love how the schools take out the candy machines and yet forgo 45 minutes of gym each day instead having “social” learning classes….you want to end obesity in children put their butts in gym everyday. We didn’t have obesity in the 70s and we had gym everyday!

It just goes to show how how bad schools have become when you are learning how bad America is but getting fatter and fatter while you learn it!

 

Additional bonuses:

aesthete (Diary) Thursday, November 27th at 11:51AM EDT (link)

Homeschooled kids, on average, have much higher SAT scores than public schooled kids. More interestingly, the disparities between whites and minorities in SAT scores all but disappear among homeschooled kids.

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We homeschooled both of our boys for several years

Bill S (Diary) Thursday, November 27th at 12:30PM EDT (link)

We switched them to private Christian school when they were in 6th grade. Both were far, far ahead of the other kids when they entered “regular” school. We had them take the Stanford achievement tests every year, and they scored far, far above grade level.

And to the tired meme about “socialization” – my homeschool kids were exposed to much more in the way of extracurricular activities than most public or private school kids. They were in “after-school” sports, 4-H, gymnastics, clubs, etc.

The teaching lobby just cannot bear to see that many (most?) parents can out-teach the “professionals” by a mile.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 

Pedagogy is an interesting word.

Nobama (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 12:44AM EDT (link)

Anyone who can tell me where the word “pedagogue” comes from will get special props and kudos from me.

The Romney Revolution has already begun. Only Mitt Romney can bring sanity back to Washington.

Here

Bill S (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 12:51AM EDT (link)

pedagogue

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 
 

Excellent Post

Kevin Welsh (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 9:27AM EDT (link)

My family consists of one child (age 2) and another coming from China soon. We are planning on home schooling and are fairly nervous that we might screw up our children. Every time we find a post or a story such as this one it just adds support to our decision.

Thanks for the excellent insight.

 

On the moral relativism part...

RoxannaDanna (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 10:50AM EDT (link)

Multiculturalism also features a good sized dollop of moral relativity. No non-western culture is seen as superior to another. However, the common denominator is that western culture is always the oppressive bully in the world neighborhood. Everyone else, culturally speaking, is equally good. It’s America that’s the problem (hegemony, colonialism, racism, blah, blah, blah, etc.)

It’s great to see someone bring up moral relativism. I think it’s at the root of a lot of the misdirection in our society today. And I keep finding that many of my friends have no idea what it means.

This is a really good diary. Thanks for posting it.

Wag, your post really gets to the point

RoxannaDanna (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 11:16AM EDT (link)

“No. It is NOT the school’s main job to educate the students. The school’s main job is to socialize the students.”

This, I think is the real thrust of the problem with public education.

What’s happening is that they (public educators) are so concerned with promoting a hard socialist line of thinking that they are no longer fostering the magic of curiosity and encouraging a hunger for learning in our children. They’re so busy pushing a secular and moral relative propaganda and ignoring the true nature of children: to be curious and to question and to want to learn. They are force feeding our kids the socialist agenda and everything and everyone who doesn’t follow their political bent is wrong and unjust and simply stupid.

It’s scary what’s happening in our schools. These kids are our future leaders and voters.

Wag, your post really gets to the point

RoxannaDanna (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 11:17AM EDT (link)

“No. It is NOT the school’s main job to educate the students. The school’s main job is to socialize the students.”

This, I think is the real thrust of the problem with public education.

What’s happening is that they (public educators) are so concerned with promoting a hard socialist line of thinking that they are no longer fostering the magic of curiosity and encouraging a hunger for learning in our children. They’re so busy pushing a secular and moral relative propaganda and ignoring the true nature of children: to be curious and to question and to want to learn. They are force feeding our kids the socialist agenda and everything and everyone who doesn’t follow their political bent is wrong and unjust and simply stupid.

It’s scary what’s happening in our schools. These kids are our future leaders and voters.

 
 
 

mailloux, very well written and thought out

Wubbies World (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 11:28AM EDT (link)

I served as a technology coordinator in a school district for six years. I have seen what you have written about first hand.

I had the joyous experience of being told strait to my face by a teacher that I do not deserve to be paid as much as I was paid. I wasn’t worth it, because teachers were more valuable and should be paid more than me. This came even though I willingly took a pay cut of almost a third to take the position initially. After that I became less willing.

I taught for two years a computer repair class (CompTIA A+) and found myself having to tell kids basic history and civics, and historical context of that history and civics.

I grew exceedingly tired of “that is not fair”, and then having to explain to them that when they graduate, nobody is going to care about what is fair, and that they were not entitled to anything, except what they earned. The bewildered look on their faces was simply amazing.

Needless to say, my wife home schooled for a few years.

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Kevin,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 11:54AM EDT (link)

Thanks for the comment.

Home schooling can be a bit daunting, but whatever mistakes are made in the home will pale compared to the potential damage done by the multiculturalists and their ilk.

In our household, my wife is the teacher. I will encourage her to write up a post on best practices and good resources. She’s done a lot of research on the topic.

Take Care, mailloux

RoxannDanna,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 12:05PM EDT (link)

Thank you for commenting.

Moral relativism is doing a lot of damage and you’re right, many folks don’t even know they’re embracing it!
Also, utilitarianism is another philosophy that’s doing great damage in our culture (see Hermes diary for a great write-up of utilitarianism).

Take Care, mailloux

Mark,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 12:08PM EDT (link)

Vouchers would be a great thing. We have to assume all of our home school costs and it would be nice to get some of our tax money back to educate our children (rather than seeing go down the black hole of public education).

Thanks for commenting.

Take Care, mailloux

Jaded,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 12:18PM EDT (link)

Thanks for the comments and the recommend.

It’s downright frightful that many elementary and middle schools have effectively removed competition from gym class. The “everyone’s a winner” mentality set up kids for a shocking disappointment in the future. In the real world, there are winners and losers and not everyone is equally good at everything (some kid who’s lousy at gym may excel in music or math).

One of my favorite childhood gym games, dodge ball, has been banned from many an elementary school. Apparently dodge ball may hurt some kid’s feelings if he’s eliminated too quickly, never mind the real life lesson that you can’t win everytime.

Take Care, mailloux

Wubbie,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 12:24PM EDT (link)

Thanks for the comments and the recommend.

The “it’s not fair” mentality is rampant. Working for a college, I’ve witnessed the fruits of public education first hand. Students can be bewildered why on earth they’ve failed a class. Unfortunately, administration is getting in on the act and is starting to blame faculty for not teaching well enough to compensate for less prepared students. In other words, it’s still not their fault (the students, that is). When they graduate, the real world can often be a crushing shock.

Take Care, mailloux

Wag,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 12:28PM EDT (link)

Thanks for the comments.

A main mission of socializing is a quite the revealing comment . . . it probably explains why the need for math remediation is skyrocketing at the post secondary level.

Take Care, mailloux

bs,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 12:33PM EDT (link)

Thanks for the comments and the recommend.

We are part of an informal group of home schoolers. We sometimes get together as a group and one thing I’ve always noticed is how well each age group is able to get along with those both older and younger.

Home school is more like real life. It’s intergenerational, whereas public school is more artificial (always being surrounded by only your own age group).

Take Care, mailloux

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Good diary.

NightTwister (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 12:56PM EDT (link)

I especially appreciate that you didn’t get into the moral superiority argument that some homeschool supporters do. Homeschooling is not for everyone, but it is a great option for some.

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NightTwister,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 1:08PM EDT (link)

Home Schooling is not for everyone . . .No truer words.

For my wife, it’s a full time job that takes a lot of committment and genuine interest. If one is not willing to do it right, then one should look at other options (for us, it would have been the local Catholic school).

Vouchers would greatly help those who cannot home school for a variety of reasons. For the next 4 years, though, it looks like vouchers are probably off the table.

Thanks for commenting.

Take Care, mailloux

Vouchers are a bad idea.

NightTwister (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 1:16PM EDT (link)

Once you let the government in, they will take control. It’s only a matter of time. I used to be a supporter of vouchers, but realized homescholers and private schools would eventually have to eschew them if they wanted to retain control over their childrens’ eduation.

We homeschooled two of our kids for a short time with limited success. It wasn’t a viable long-term solution, so we enrolled them in public school. We have school choice here, which helps provide some accountability.

Private school isn’t an option because of the cost, and personally I don’t think many of them are better than the public schools, and some are worse with a different sort of indoctrination.

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Our two youngest kids went to a charter school

wag (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 2:50PM EDT (link)

We home schooled during a window when California allowed charter schools to be a resource to homeschooling parents. In our view, it was the best possible solution. Our (mostly) home schooled son had access to once a week teachers, an orchestra class, PE (cross country), a library, and all sorts of benefits difficult to schedule for many home schoolers.
This option was done away with by the State of California seven years ago (I believe) and our little charter school was given two options go full time or close. It has not been an easy transition. But we stayed with them. My daughter is a junior and I am pleased with her education.

Very true.

NickLevi86 (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 3:02PM EDT (link)

As one who was homeschooled all the way, I can’t agree more. I’ve seen fellow Homeschool students both succeed and fall flat on their faces when hit with cold hard reality outside their parents’ protective bubble.

In regards to the above quote, social networking can be important as well. The “can they socialize?” argument still applies to some famiies. I’ve seen them first hand. Like an Ivy League education, it’s not what you know any more. It’s who you get to know and the connections they have.

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NightTwister,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 4:03PM EDT (link)

Good points . . . I hadn’t considered that the voucher could be established in such a way that it included numerous government mandates in addition to restrictions. That really could be a poisoned chalice for home schoolers.

I remember Milwaukee had a pilot program for a time. I should do a little research and see what the details of the program were. It could make an interesting post and a good warning to always read the fine print on any voucher programs.

Take Care, mailloux

 
 
 
 
 
 

A few additions to your fine piece

David Hinz (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 5:27PM EDT (link)

and a look into the whats and whys of Public Education. First of all, to add to your thoughts on Presidential sidekick, William Ayers, there is this from the man’s own lips when speaking before an educational forum in Caracas, Venezuela:

We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution, and I’ve come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both the Venezuelan and the international struggle—I look forward to seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and deeply humane. Thank you, Luis, for everything you’ve done.

–snip–

I walked out of jail and into my first teaching position—and from that day until this I’ve thought of myself as a teacher, but I’ve also understood teaching as a project intimately connected with social justice.

–snip–

Totalitarianism demands obedience and conformity, hierarchy, command and control. Royalty requires allegiance. Capitalism promotes racism and militarism – turning people into consumers, not citizens. Participatory democracy, by contrast, requires free people coming together voluntarily as equals who are capable of both self-realization and, at the same time, full participation in a shared political and economic life. (emphasis mine)

Now, you might ask yourself why this indoctrination? Two youtube videos of defector Ex-KGB Uri Bezmerov explaining the process of taking over the minds of the young are particularly interesting.

This has all been done before……..

 

Multiculturalism in the schools is much worse that you think.

LMC_in_GA (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 9:28PM EDT (link)

As a fellow homeschooling family, I appreciate your diary. As the wife of a public school teacher,I can tell you that the public schools (at least my husband’s) is much worse than you believe. Lately, his administration has mandated that he assign homework nightly, however, he is not allowed to grade it because he “cannot expect our students to actually do their homework.”

In terms of multiculturalism, he has witnessed assemblies where the “Black” National Anthem is sung yet the same school will not play the US National Anthem.He has been in assemblies where the speaker advised non-white students that white people could never be their friends. They were told that white people were always their enemies. Yet when my dh was asked by a student how he would feel if his children wanted to marry a black person and he replied that he would counsel them that they could expect difficulties in such a relationship but that if that is what they wanted then we would support them….the administration opened an investigation to determine if he was being racist.

And those examples are only the tip of the iceberg…

We have been truly blessed in being able to keep our children at home and out of that environment.

....thaN you think.

LMC_in_GA (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 9:49PM EDT (link)

Sorry. It’s been a long busy week. Time to go to bed now.

David,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 11:06PM EDT (link)

Thanks for the comments and links. It puts Ayers in more context and most importantly, it highlights the idea that we’re condemned to repeat the past when we’re ignorant of it.

History and social sciences have been particularly corrupted by the multiculti crowd. Hence, so many ignorant of the history of the cold war and the horrors of the Soviet Union.

Take Care, mailloux

LMC_in_GA,

mailloux (Diary) Friday, November 28th at 11:28PM EDT (link)

It’s disheartening to hear the extent of the multiculturalism at your husband’s school.

The very same mindset has besieged colleges as well. I have sat through presentations to faculty and staff where I learned that all white people are racist and, fundamentally, can never really change. As a Catholic, this is an affront to both human free will and its root, which is being created in the image of God. I am told, though, that any offense that I experience can be explained away by my underlying racism. It’s much like the Newspeak of Orwell’s 1984. These are strange times . . .

Good luck to you and your family.

Take Care, mailloux

 
 
 
 

Great Post

Illinois_GOP_Network (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 3:33AM EDT (link)

Thanks for contributing. My wife and I have homeschooled now for 4 years now. We have a 7th grader, a 1st grader and a kindergartner.

If anyone is interested in Homeschooling they need to check out HSLDA.org. The Home School Legal Defense Fund. If you choose to homeschool and join their group and then run into trouble with the local politburo School Board they will provide you legal counsel up and to flying a lawyer to your area to file a lawsuit against the school board.

The freedom of parents to not to be forced to choose government run schools must be protected. I would not be surprised to see action on this with the Obama administration. The going trend is to not allow it unless the parent has a teachers certificate.

And for those not familiar, the media has done a doosey on making home school folks religious nuts, backward and produce kids that are social morons. Be ware of those force feed stereo types. Our kids have interaction with kids in the neighborhood, church groups, private art and foreign language classes and field trips put together by other home schoolers in the area.

Home school parents want one thing for their children. A education based on strong educational principles. Something that this blog post shows that we have abandoned in public education.

Strong language, writing, and math skills. The ability of the internet provides an amazing amount of opportunity for home school parents. It’s challenging but when you realize that you taught your son or daughter to read or diagram a sentence and watch the progress from there it is a true “family moment”.

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Great Article

Amy J. Saturday, November 29th at 9:46AM EDT (link)

As I work full-time, I am unable to homeschool, but my husband and I made the decision when the kids were born that they would not attend the public school system. They attend a private Christian school. I have often said that if I didn’t need my job, I’d quit and homeschool. I’d quit and homeschool before they’d set foot in a public school. With that said, there are several homeschooled kids who attend our Christan School for one or two classes. One of them is a good friend of my oldest daughter. There is nothing wrong with these kids. They are smart, well-adjusted, and able to interact just fine with their peers. They participate in team sports, the music program, and the dramatic productions. I’m more than impressed with the parents and children that are part of the homeschool community. This article was great, and I applaud you and your wife’s efforts. They will go a long way. I’ve seen it :)

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Every student needs homeschooling in addition to

FrankAtl Saturday, November 29th at 1:34PM EDT (link)

whatever else is offered at public or private school.

Our local Christian school was great for socialization; the kids are forced to treat each other well. But there was almost no phys ed, no foreign language until 10th grade, and less than grade level math offerings. But we amended the curriculum with our own home tutoring and fitness activities.

 

This May Be The Most Important Movment of Our Time

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 1:52PM EDT (link)

Cheers to you for homeschooling your kids and talking abou why. You can neve rreally get to the poltical problems or even teh media problems if you dot understand what is going on in our classrooms.

 

Are you alright swamp?

Cowboy (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 2:18PM EDT (link)

You been drinking this morning?

 

Question on Socialization......

DC71 (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 5:25PM EDT (link)

I want to thank you for your article on home schooling. I’m not completely familiar with it outside of the home-schooled kids I knew growing up. What I always wondered is how you allow them to socialize with other children. Knowing two kids is a bad sample size of course, but the two I knew had a difficult time fitting in with everyone else. I was wondering what you guys do to expose them to working with other children? I also wondered how you exposed them to children of different backgrounds. Do you feel it’s important to expose your children to kids outside your social group. For example, my best friend when I was growing up was a black Muslim child. I learned a lot through knowing him, especially in working with others from a much different background than me. Do you do things so that they can meet people of different racial or economic backgrounds? How do you go about this? Do you feel it is important? It’s the question I’ve always had about this. I know that the way multi-culturalism is taught in many schools is crap. However, I do think there is value in the friendships formed with the different types of people you children meet in the public school system. How do you socialize them into being able to work with folks of difference religions, races, or sexual orientations that they are bound to encounter as adults? I hope this doesn’t come across as judgmental or anything, but I have always wondered how parents do this, or if they feel it was important. Thanks.

 

"I hope this doesn't come across as judgmental or anything, but" ....Fail, dc71.

stang (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 7:15PM EDT (link)

Really? How about really condescending?

If you’re so curious, why do you answer each of your own questions?

Do you feel it’s important to expose your children to kids outside your social group. *For example, my best friend when I was growing up was a black Muslim child. I learned a lot through knowing him, especially in working with others from a much different background than me. *

…well I feel it’s important and if you don’t, that just proves that you are my moral inferior.

Your only point here is to cast aspersions on anyone who doesn’t share your enlightened views. Due to your life experience, of course.

Take your multi/culti PC crap and peddle it somewhere else.

I leave you with this excerpt.

Theodore Dalrymple:

Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any farther obedience, and are left to the common refuge which God hath provided for all men against force and violence.”

John Locke

First of all, let's establish a baseline.

mbecker908 (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 7:21PM EDT (link)

The purpose of “schooling” is to educate. Not to socialize. The system of public schools in this country is failing miserably at educating. Until we address THAT, any other discussion is simply mental masturbation, which is precisely the state of “diversity”.

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I'm sorry.....

DC71 (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 8:21PM EDT (link)

I really didn’t mean to be condescending. I mention that story only because as a kid from a town of 4000, it showed me that not everyone was the exact same as me. It was an important experience for me as a child. Didn’t think that would somehow be a big deal. I have been blessed to have been able to live in many places across this country, and spent some time abroad. I was able to learn a lot from the people I met in all these places. I;ve seen schools as a way for kids to meet different children. My question was really wondering how the parents of home schooled children introduced there children to different people, and if they thought it was important to do so. I really am wondering since I don’t have experience with home-schoolers. That’s it. No judgment. Many people are passionate about homeschooling, and I want to know how they do it and what makes them successful.

I like though how somehow if I am interested in meeting different people, that somehow makes me a communist. Great argument.

If you would spend just five minutes...

Bill S (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 8:31PM EDT (link)

…doing a little research on homeschooling, you would discover that the “socialization” meme is utter crapola propagated by the public educrats. As I mentioned above, my kids were involved in more outside activities with other people than most public (or private) school kids.

Throwing out the “socialization” accusation is just as disingenuous and misleading as me accusing the public schools of being filled with drug pushers, gang-bangers and sex-crazed teachers. Both are based on misinformation.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

I wanted personal stories....

DC71 (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 8:47PM EDT (link)

I think they’re much more interesting than any research I could do. People here are very enthusiastic about their support for home schooling. I want to know how they did it. I missed you post earlier BS. How did that work? Could they play high school sports, or did they only play on travel club teams? Could they partake in school activities. Were there town dances and stuff for their to meet other kids? Did they have any trouble getting to know the kids in school? I really want to know.

I’m sorry you are suspecting the worst from me. I just wanted to learn from you guys, since you are vocal advocates. You say the socialization stuff is BS, that could be true. I just wanted to know why. I have no background in this at all. Like I’ve said, my only experience were with 2 kids growing up. I want to know how you did it better. That’s all.

Many ways

Bill S (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 9:51PM EDT (link)

1) Sports – American Legion baseball, primarily, and YMCA basketball. We lived in a community that was probably 99% WASP, but they had a black BB coach. Great man…and they could tell.

2) 4-H – the community was in the middle of corn country, although was > 100K population. 4-H was huge, absolutely huge. Much leadership training in 4-H. There were dances and other kinds of events in 4-H that they could have done, but my kids were more into the projects for the fair and the normal meetings…they were too young for some of the other activities.

3) Home school “enrichment groups” – much like “regular” school, but with large groups of kids. Did PE class, science labs, etc. This augmented regular home school.

4) Summer classes at the University – both of my kids took extra classes outside the home for fun.

5) Home school support groups – in many communities, homeschool families meet together for the kids to play and for the moms (and dads) to share ideas and experiences about their schooling.

6) Church groups – my kids have always been very active in church youth groups, including mission trips to work with inner city poor, disaster relief in places like New Orleans, etc. I’d say my kids have seen more in the way of other cultures and economic conditions than most kids who were in public school their entire lives, primarily because of their church involvement.

This is not atypical. Most homeschool families do this precisely so their kids have experiences outside the home. One does not have to attend government education to get a broader view of the world.

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

That sounds great.....

DC71 (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 10:15PM EDT (link)

I applaud what you did with you children. You are obviously a very good and involved parent. This is the type of thing I wanted to know with parents who home school. Thanks a lot for the information. I would love to learn more from other parents.

DC71,

mailloux (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 11:37PM EDT (link)

Thanks for your comments and my apologies for being late to the party. It’s around 10:15 pm and this is the first time I’ve sat in front of the computer today.

I agree with mbecker908 that the primary purpose is to educate in the classical sense. That said, bs did an excellent job detailing the many social opportunities for home schoolers.

I wanted also to point out one other thing we teach our children with respect to getting along with others. We teach them the lesson St. Francis of Assisi demonstrated when he kissed a leper. St. Francis saw past the horrible disease and the danger of contagion. He was responding instead to the image of God that all humans have. It’s what makes us different from mere animals. Our children understand this. It helps them to respond to all others with respect and love. It also protects their sense of virtue; in other words, they treat others respectfully, but they are not afraid to stand up for truth, even when it means disagreeing with others.

This, I believe, is the best preparation for getting along with people of all races and cultures.

Thanks, again, for commenting.

Take Care, mailloux

Illinois_GOP_Network,

mailloux (Diary) Saturday, November 29th at 11:57PM EDT (link)

Thank you for your comments and especially for pointing out The Home School Legal Defense Fund.

I believe that you are correct in pointing out how liberals will attack home schooling. It will be done by requiring that teachers, even home school ones, be certified. This, if enforced, would effectively shut down most home schools. We are watching California to see how that situation plays itself out.

I’ve never been the sort to run immediately to an attorney, but to protect my children, I would eagerly lawyer up. I would welcome the help of the HSLDF. With an incoming Obama administration (and a full Democratic takeover of Wisconsin), my wife and I will certainly be looking into the HSLDF.

Home schooling is a thorn in the side of public education. I have no doubt liberals would eradicate it if they had the power.

Take Care, mailloux

My wife and I homeschool each

DGaines (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 12:56AM EDT (link)

of our children. In my area we have hundreds of homeschooling families. For sports options we have two different basketball teams that play full schedules against public and private school opponents. There is a golf team, tennis team, girl’s volleyball and varsity baseball as well as varsity, JV, and eighth grade football teams. This is the organized option – obviously there are many unorganized and/or less competitive options.

My older children (16 and 14) have traveled to South Africa, Honduras, London and multiple states throughout the U.S. I would guarantee they have a broader multicultural experience than than 90% of the public educated children you will meet. In addition I am confident that it is a multicultural experience based on a correct world view not the drivel that passes for multicultural in today’s public education system.

My kids attend weekly cooperative classes with other home school families. My older ones take college courses which double as high school credit and allows the enterprising student to get a jump on their post secondary education.

Most of my children have zero trouble making friends.(In fact, I wish they had fewer; friends are a lot of work). Although I would argue that if you have a child who is quiet, brainy and finds it hard to relate to others, sending him or her to public school is likely to make them a bully magnet rather than provide socialization.

Finally, my children assist at nursing homes, work at soup kitchens, help in the community and have a host of other huge experience advantages over most public school kids.

I won’t lie to you. Homeschooling is hard work, but in my view the results are worth it. Sure you will always have the anecdotal example of the strange, un-socialized, home school kid but spend some time at your average public school and the occasional quiet nerdy kid won’t seem like such a bad deal.

Peace.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

People who home school should be

Joel Farnham (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 1:36AM EDT (link)

Interested in this link.

http://www.hslda.org/Default.asp?bhcp=1

It is a website devoted to the lawyer aspects of Home Schooling.

I have no problem with home schooling.

I have no children, but I think that there is a movement out there which is designed to stop home schooling.

It is in it’s infant stage, but……….

Call me what you want, just don’t call me late for dinner.

High recommendation for HSLDA

Beaglescout (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 2:52AM EDT (link)

HSLDA membership is pretty cheap, slightly under $100 annually, and gives you 100% legal coverage for a year. If you had an important case that might affect a lot of others, HSLDA might help you out even if you weren’t a member. But if you can afford it it’s worth supporting them. I’d also recommend joining your state homeschooling organization. Here in Mississippi we joined the MS Home Educators’ Association and we got our HSLDA membership through them at a discount.

We started homeschooling our children this year using an eclectic curriculum based on A Well Trained Mind. My wife is a certified secondary teacher, and is homeschooling instead of teaching at a private or monopoly school. The kids are in 4th and 2nd grade and are learning science, history (ancient period this year), mathematics, handwriting, and Latin. The 3 year old is learning Latin right along with them. Both of the school age ones are already excellent (English) readers compared to grade level.

We actually pulled them from school because of the school’s unacceptable socialization. Our boy is the kind of kid who reads the Encyclopedia for fun. He was beginning to hate school. He was being bullied by other children who had IEPs (individualized educational programs, basically a license to slack off earned by claiming some disability); the teachers were prevented from doing anything to protect him, and instead punished him for his angry responses. The girl is a natural-born social butterfly. She was getting some friends who were bad influences (in first grade they were always talking about boys, and discouraged signs of intelligence). Both of them hated math after doing 20-30 Saxon worksheets every day and learning everything to the NLCB test. In other words, the socialization and education that school was providing was the worst sort possible. Our kids could probably get better socialization hanging out under a bridge with hobos than from their school. And they could get better education from simply talking to someone with a brain.

Both of the older kids have friends from other activities. We’re active in scouting, both cubs and brownies, soccer, and dance. Our biggest challenge is keeping the boy from spending all his spare time playing video games. I’d like to get him to try baseball this year, before he is too old to start. And of course I’d like to introduce them to golf. That is a game that can last a lifetime.

“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”

–Alexander Hamilton
 
 

Homeschooling Helps Save Kids from Becoming Another Jesse Dirkhising

GENE_LALOR (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 2:56AM EDT (link)

**DIRKHISING AND SHEPHARD VERSUS SHEPARD: WHAT CONSTITUTES NEWS?
Published in November 30th, 2008 | Edit
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Jesse Dirkhising
BORN: May 24, 1986 AD
DIED: September 26, 1999 AD

Jesse Dirkhising would have been 22 in 2008 had he survived his torture at the hands of two perverted homosexuals, Joshua Brown, then 22, and his live-in “partner/lover” David Don Carpenter, 38. Instead, the Prairie Grove, Arkansas boy never lived as long as Brown. He died a slow, painful, awful death at the tender age of thirteen, bound, gagged, after being repeatedly and viciously assaulted.

Should anyone care to read the lurid details of the attacks on Jesse, please refer to http://www.armyofgod.com/JesseDirkhising.html. Warning: Those details, which I refuse to print here, are repugnant and not for the faint of heart. The trial judge understandably felt shivers up his spine listening to them.

That website also includes an abundance of other material concerning the case, including information on the trials and convictions of Brown and Carpenter and various articles on homosexuality. None are endorsements. And none are politically correct.

Why write about Jesse Dirkhising today? Because of the recent rape and murder in Philadelphia of a young North Dakotan man, Jason Shephard, who was the subject of my previous article, and whose case, as with Jesse’s, is being purposefully ignored by the mass media.

The history of homosexual violence is repeating itself.

The question is, Why? Another question is, How many other, similar attacks never “make the news?”….
(Read the rest of this article at http://genelalor.com/.)

OBAMA XLV

June 22nd, 2008

Ok, we’ve been told Obama is the new JFK, brainy, handsome, eloquent, etc. etc. etc. Well, I don’t know about any of that, especially about his eloquence when he doesn’t have his script. Take a listen to a few examples o

 

Dear Husband--great post!

janalice (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 3:30AM EDT (link)

I read your diary and everyone’s comments with great interest. (I especially appreciated the comments regarding legal matters and protection. I have been fearing what an Obama presidency/democratic majority could do to our freedom to homeschool.) When possible, I may post a diary on one individual’s (my) perspective on homeschooling. I happen to be in early labor right now, which is why I am at the computer at 2:30 a.m.–it’s probably not the best time to write coherently on the topic. :-) For all who make the critical decision of how to best educate their children, I wish them well!

Catholic Homeschooling by Mary Kay Clark

mom2oneson (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 5:09AM EDT (link)

DC71 -
A good book is called Catholic Homeschool by Mary Kay Clark. It is written to Catholic parents but she is very articulate and it would give you a good introduction to it. There is a great chapter on socialization. She has experience with both running a private school and directing a home study program.
setonbooks.com sells it.

public schools were successful at first too

mom2oneson (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 6:06AM EDT (link)

The reasons they started compulsory education laws are bad, nothing good will come from it long term. It’s socialism.

Conservatives will say how the test or pilot programs work but look public schools were successful at first too. Night are you right, we have a great deal of independence with private schools in some states under religious freedom having vouchers will lose that. Also many homeschoolers are expempt from public school because of these private school exemption type of laws so we stand to laws the ability to have private schools and homeschool indepdently. Once the gov starts paying the private schools will not be private for long and then they will add more laws and so forth.

I do not understand why conservatives take the we are paying for it anyway so we are entitled to vouchers approach or vouchers are needed for the low income to have a choice. The child’s fate does not have to be left to the government. I don’t know why conservative push for vouchers and “school choice” which means goverment funding instead of pulling the children out of the system and educating them at home indpendent of government money and oversight. To me it sounds like the liberals do when they distort a situation and present like people are helpless and lost without government help but in reality that is not the case at all. That is my big question with all of this, why do we take this approach like parents are helpless and need the government.

Apart from the dangers of socialism and the child’s mind there are the two sides of this entitlement menatlity one the giver controls the recipient and two the recipient expect it and will act helpless. The best way to help the situation if for parents to pull their kids from public schools and utilitze private schools or homeschools. (I know there are very involved parents now in public schools and disinterested parents who homeschool too) but if parents took their kids out, it would almost force them to become interested in their child’s education if they were not previously. The kids would also be free of liberal indoctrination for 6 hours a day.

God bless you!

mom2oneson (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 6:15AM EDT (link)

I hope you are holding your little one soon. :)

In addition to bs's post

LMC_in_GA (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 11:05AM EDT (link)

I would like to add that most homeschooling families have learned how to be very flexible and how to “think outside of the box” in regards to opportunities for their children.My own personal theory is that homeschoolers have so many opportunities because they do not have access to a school system to provide activities for their students. Most of the support groups that spring up are to give kids the opportunity for group activities i.e. spelling bees, field days,geography bees, camping trips, banquets, honor days, graduations, etc. Moms in my group decided that we could replicate these “school” offerings and do them better. Since homeschoolers do not have access to organized school sports, some dads in the Atlanta area decided to form their own teams. Their league has been very successful and has greatly expanded in the past 4 or 5 years. My own sons got us involved in competitive archery which brings us into contact with kids and adults all over the United States regularly. I have a friend that started his own competitive swim team (that even includes traditionally schooled children)which competes throughout the eastern US.

My children have also held many jobs where they have come into contact with many different kinds of people. (My 2 youngest even help bus tables for a family friend’s seasonal restaurant.)They have always been complimented on how well they relate with all ages and how respectful they are. Again, my theory on this is that they see people as, well, people. They don’t class people as older, younger, black, white, rich or poor. They don’t view the world in the same false age-segregated structure that teaches kids to pigeon-hole people the minute that they meet them.

My oldest son just went to college. The transition has been pretty painless. His room mate turned out to be polar opposite to my son (openly-gay, messy, smoker, democrat, atheist and a yankee) yet my son has no problem with him. He has hoped to be a good influence. Which is my other point, by homeschooling my children, I have been able to “manage” a lot of the peer pressure that my children have received. They have learned how to establish their own boundaries and how to stand up for their own beliefs because they have been guided in how to deal with situations from adults who truly care about them (their parents.) I am so proud of my son in his ability to tell his friends that he’ll drive them around but he’s not going to hang out at the frat house getting toasted. (Doubly proud because when I was in college….let’s just say UGA was in the top party schools.)He’s not “holier-than-thou” about it and his friends respect him because he stands by his principles with out trying to force them on others. My second son, however, needs more work. :o )

I guess the point of this post is that homeschoolers do have many opportunities outside of the home. Yet, many of the important lessons that we teach them come from living life and learning how to deal with real life situations instead of ones manufactured in a classroom.

Fine

Swamp_Yankee (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 12:00PM EDT (link)

Politics can only take you so far if youve lost the culture and the kids. I live in Massachusetts and political activism is useless. We have to recapture hearts and minds before we can talk policy up here. I think education first and then the media are the twoo biggest issues for the future of our Republic.

I think he means your spelling/typing issues.

itrytobenice (Diary) Sunday, November 30th at 8:01PM EDT (link)

You’re usually pretty precise. These two posts look more like IM. :)

Proper grammar saves lives.

Let’s eat Grandma.
Let’s eat, Grandma.


Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

Right that is it

Cowboy (Diary) Monday, December 1st at 1:52AM EDT (link)

My grammar and spelling sucks but it is out of character for swamp.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A PENNSYLVANIA HOMESCHOOLER SPEAKS OUT

GENE_LALOR (Diary) Monday, December 1st at 5:45PM EDT (link)

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The following comment was posted today on my website in response to a previous article titled, “Joy Behar and the NEA,” http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/index.php?s=JOY+BEHAR.

The writer eloquently and passionately makes an excellent case for the merits of homeschooling. Even better, she ignores Joyless Behar and the N.E.A.

Carrie said, December 1st, 2008 at 9:42 am:

I have 2 boys who are 4 & 5 years old. I feel that if I sent them to school in our district, I would be failing them as their mother. We live in one of the worst test-scoring districts in PA.

It is not the state’s responsibility to teach my children, nor its right. It should be its privilege. The state has lost that privilege, by my standards.

I have utilized a home-based schooling program called PA Cyber Charter School. It is considered a public program and is paid for by tax dollars. Every student in PA, and several other states as well, receive EVERY necessary book and tool to make a child’s education top-notch, from computer equipment to crayons and internet reimbursement!

My children are intelligent, with eager, fertile minds. I am able to choose their curriculum and tailor it to their interests. My boys are able to work ahead and, if they master their grade-level skills, they are allowed to move on to the next grade level without having to wait for other students to catch up or until the next school year.We regularly attend church and extra-curricular activities. There are organized field trip events available all over our state as well. There are rules, regulations, and requirements for home-based education. …

(Read the rest of Carrie’s commentary at http://genelalor.com/.)

OBAMA XLV

June 22nd, 2008

Ok, we’ve been told Obama is the new JFK, brainy, handsome, eloquent, etc. etc. etc. Well, I don’t know about any of that, especially about his eloquence when he doesn’t have his script. Take a listen to a few examples o

 

Hey Neil...

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, December 1st at 5:54PM EDT (link)

You warned this pinhead about doing what he’s doing.

Please leave his body by the roadside. The vultures are hungry. Thanks.

vultures

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And I should know that "Reply to This" is my friend.

mbecker908 (Diary) Monday, December 1st at 6:00PM EDT (link)

This should have been attached to GENE_LALOR’s comment.

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