With yesterday’s announcement from the Congressional Budget Office that the fiscal year 2009 federal budget deficit is projected to be $1.2 trillion dollars, Republicans in the House and Senate should realize that the time has come for them to pull their support for any economic stimulus package proposed by the incoming Obama Administration. The CBO’s budget numbers don’t include the as yet unseen stimulus bill, which is rumored to carry a price tag of anywhere between $600 billion and $1.2 trillion on its own. By this time next year, the government could be carrying a balance sheet that is as much as $2.5 trillion in the red. As the once and future party of fiscal responsibility, Republicans should not want to be anywhere near those numbers.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Minority Leader John Boehner were making conciliatory noises on Monday after President-elect Obama went to Capitol Hill to lobby for his stimulus bill. Obama said that the deal would include $300 billion in “tax cuts” with which he hoped to buy Republican support. McConnell and Boehner expressed pleasant surprise at the alleged size of the tax relief in the plan – alleged because some of the tax relief is slated to go to people who don’t pay federal income taxes in the first place – and hinted that they could support a stimulus bill this focused on reducing taxes.
But more than their support for passage, which he does not need, Obama was attempting to buy political cover from Republicans, which he wants. Obama wants to insulate hmself from blame when the post election afterglow fades away, his stimulus plan inevitably fails, and the American people get stuck with the bills. McConnell and Boehner doubtlessly know this; but they lack the political courage to stand athwart the new Administration and yell “Stop!” If they want to rebuild the Republican Party’s image as the party of fiscal restraint, however, that is exactly what they must do.
Right now, Republicans generally are operating on the theory that they must appear to be working with President Obama to avoid the wrath of the voters, who elected Obama to change Washington. The hope is that in being nice to Obama, Republicans will share in some of the credit for his initiatives, and win back the trust of the voters. The problem is that Republicans have played this game before, and it never ends up the way they hope. Americans don’t want a Democratic Party and a watered down Democratic Party, which is what Republicans who counsel going along to get along would have the party become. Americans want choices, and conservatives want a Republican Party that stands on principle. That is why Republicans should walk away from the proposed economic stimulus completely.
If they do, they will catch criticism in the short term for their lack of “caring” and their “obstructionism.” But the fact is that the Democrats don’t need a single Republican vote to pass the stimulus. So let them do it on their own. The Senate should not filibuster, but not one Republican should vote for the deal. Only in this way will Republicans be properly positioned when the stimulus fails. Of course, the risk is that the stimulus will not fail, and Republicans will not have had a hand in crafting it. But that is not really much of a risk at all. As the minority party, Republicans will not receive any credit for a successful turnaround in the economy. If they go along with Obama’s plans, Republicans will not be able to criticize Democrats if the stimulus fails. That is a risk that Republicans simply cannot take if they wish to get back in the majority anytime soon. No amount of temporary tax cuts Democrats may offer is worth mortgaging the Republican Party’s future.
Since Republicans cannot lead on the stimulus, they should not follow. It’s time to get out of the way. Let Obama and the Democrats be responsible for the results of the massive increases in government spending their plan envisions; and don’t sell out principles just to stand in Obama’s aura.

It's gonna be a rough 2 - 4 years. nt
CJB68 Thursday, January 8th at 9:58AM EST (link)Delusional and Arrogant. The 2008 Democratic Presidential Ticket.
AS Said Elseswhere: Vote for Tax Cuts, But Against The Bill
IJB Thursday, January 8th at 10:08AM EST (link)That’ the best political option for the GOP:
Vote for any reasonable tax cuts (they shouldn’t be on record as supporting “give outs” to non-taxpayers, but they should be on record support tax cuts that are good ideas at any time).
Then they should vote against the whole bill, saying that it’s laden with too much “pork”, will not stimulate the economy sufficiently, and will disastrously increase the deficit and the national debt.
It’s the best of both political worlds.
Agreed
Kyle-MI Thursday, January 8th at 11:27AM EST (link)Republicans should offer and voter for any amendments that would improve the final bill, but vote against the final package. As long as there is no filibuster threat Democrats do not need a single Republican vote for this mess. They are just looking for political cover to use in defense against Republicans in 2010 and beyond.
Agree absolutely...
Praying Thursday, January 8th at 2:06PM EST (link)… and if you are so fortunate as to have a GOP congressman, please WRITE, PHONE, or EMAIL them to let them know your opinion. I don’t know who Obama’s “all but one leading economists” that say Washington MUST do something IMMEDIATELY are, but they are obviously different from the 50+ economists who have contacted John Boehner to express their skepticism for the Obama’s economic stimulus package. As Senator Alexander said, we don’t need to spend money we don’t have for things we don’t have to have… This economic “stimulus” plan is like a drug - just say NO!
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Vote "Present"
AnnaD Thursday, January 8th at 11:35AM EST (link)Just like Obama has so many times. Let the Dems own this piece of junk lock, stock and barrel.
5555, AnnaD... Just like the GOP stood up to the Dims in 1993...
RedWhite_and_Truth Thursday, January 8th at 12:12PM EST (link)Indeed, let the Dimbulbs own the fiasco lock, stock, and two smoking barrels. And then let see how 2010, and ‘12 shapes up for them.
No Bailouts for Liberal States!
Spartan4Life Thursday, January 8th at 12:20PM EST (link)I find this aspect especially distasteful. These states have no fiscal responsibility and then want people who don’t even live there to bail them out.
Our founders must be spinning in their graves.
No more bail-outs period
izoneguy Thursday, January 8th at 12:22PM EST (link)Everyone is acting like a spoiled 12 year old.
You spent your allowance.
If you want more money - do some extra chores.
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
Better yet, No Bailouts.
briang Thursday, January 8th at 8:23PM EST (link)Not sure why any states should be getting bail-outs.
Besides, if this guy is correct, eight of the top ten states that take more federal funds than they give are “red” states.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2004/09/red_states_feed.html
This is typical of the washington Republicans...
AceInTX Thursday, January 8th at 12:42PM EST (link)In return for $300 billion in tax cuts…half of which are in the form of direct welfare checks to people who don’t pay taxes…they’ll sign off on $400 Billion to $900 Billion in additional spending…
So 2/3 of this travesty increases spending and the size and scope of the government in exchange for 1/3rd of it that lowers taxes on people who don’t pay taxes…We to go guys…
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Very Funny Stuff...
parliament Thursday, January 8th at 8:13PM EST (link)When you say…”Republicans should not want to be anywhere near those numbers.”
The Republican Party OWNS the 1.2 TRILLION dollar deficit. Kinda unrealistic to say you don’t want to be any where near them when you caused them! This is funny!
So much for "accountablility," eh, parliament?
Moe Lane Thursday, January 8th at 8:25PM EST (link)Kid, if you can’t keep track of what who you find most expedient to blame at any given time, don’t expect us to, either.
Ciao.
PS: The war in Iraq? Not in your name, parliament.
Not then, not now, not ever.
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OccamsRazor Thursday, January 8th at 8:41PM EST (link)Funny...
rbdwiggins Thursday, January 8th at 9:14PM EST (link)I was one of those McCain voters who could correctly identify which party controlled the 110th Congress.
I have to assume from your response, that you must fall somewhere among the 57.4% of Obama voters who, according to Zogby, could NOT correctly say which party controls congress.
Hint: It’s the same party that’s responsible for the $1.2 Trillion budget-deficit.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
If we're going to be honest here...
Jim Friday, January 9th at 12:36AM EST (link)…the Bush administration cannot be absolved of TARP and has basically primed the pump for everything the Democrats are licking their chops at spending now. The Treasury secretary for the administration has been a disaster throughout all of this.
Republicans need to offer a paradigm shift in thinking. How much of a contrast would it be if the GOP leaders in Congress came out against any type of so-called “stimulus” and instead proposed massive spending cuts to balance the budget and provide real (not borrowed) tax relief. I don’t think it is sufficient to just sit on the side and wait for bad things to happen in hopes the American people will come running back to the GOP. A positive, bold, radically different prescription needs to be offered to lay the groundwork for when this “stimulus”, like all the others before it, crashes and burns.
As Mises once said, “Middle-of-the-road policy leads to socialism.”
“On the free market, everyone earns according to his productive value in satisfying consumer desires. Under statist distribution, everyone earns in proportion to the amount he can plunder from the producers.”
Murray Rothbard
Let's do be honest...
rbdwiggins Friday, January 9th at 3:41PM EST (link)Had the Democrats and their allies not blocked all of the Bush Administration’s attempts to reform Freddie and Fannie, but allowed the reform measures to be enacted in a timely manner, we would not be in the middle of the current financial crisis and TARP would not exist.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
I really miss the preview feature...
rbdwiggins Friday, January 9th at 3:49PM EST (link)Blockquote and paragraph tags left open immediately following Reid’s quote.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
"Borrowed" tax relief
Jim Friday, January 9th at 8:09PM EST (link)I agree with everything you said about the Democrats and their slavish devotion to providing loans to people who could not afford it. But that does not absolve the Bush administration of completely abandoning free market economics in order to save free market economics, whatever that means. The Bush administration chose the politically expedient and/or the wrongheaded Keynesian view of economics instead of fearlessly defending the private sector and economic liberty.
Borrowed tax relief is simply providing tax cuts without accompanying cuts in spending. In small amounts this is manageable (though bad policy). On the level that the government is spending these days with budget deficits approaching $1 trillion, the call needs to be for both massive tax AND spending cuts.
Take the concept of providing tax cuts while maintaining or increasing government spending to the extreme, and you have a governement entirely financed by borrowed money or printed money. Either way this will come back to bite the American taxpayers in the end when the “credit card bills” come due and their wealth is diminished through inflation.
“On the free market, everyone earns according to his productive value in satisfying consumer desires. Under statist distribution, everyone earns in proportion to the amount he can plunder from the producers.”
Murray Rothbard
I'll give you the Big-3...
rbdwiggins Friday, January 9th at 8:45PM EST (link)The bailout was a classic case of government interference in the free market. Although, government certainly caused a significant part of the problem facing the domestic automakers.
The current financial crisis was not caused by our free-market economy. It is the direct result of failed government policy. The government had no choice but to attempt to stabilize our banking system, because our free-market economy relies on the liquidity and transparency of our banking system. That said, I certainly differ with the path chosen by the Bush Administration.
Tax cuts pay for themselves. They do not have to be “paid for.” It’s that simple.
Budget deficits are the result of deficit spending. They can occur regardless of, and independent from, the tax rate.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
No, they don't have to be "paid for" but...
Jim Friday, January 9th at 10:38PM EST (link)…let’s take a reducio ad absurdem. I am able to convince the Congress to lower all taxes to zero while maintaining the same level of government spending. The governement, in an effort to cover the extremely large $3 trillion deficit, borrows as much money as possible, raising the national debt. When that fails, the Federal Reserve prints new money to cover the shortfalls. In this scenario, does not the taxpayer carry a burden through a) the debt liability that will need to be repaid and b) the diminished purchasing power of the dollar due to inflation of the money supply? Are we not paying a price and losing wealth even though it is not being confiscated through taxation?
I am just saying that “tax cuts pay for themselves” is predicated upon a growing economy. But the shortfall can be more quickly closed by the contraction of government spending. Should not we as conservatives be just as focused on contracting the size and scope of government? I’m just saying we cannot forget about that side of the equation, as the GOP has done for the last 8 years.
“On the free market, everyone earns according to his productive value in satisfying consumer desires. Under statist distribution, everyone earns in proportion to the amount he can plunder from the producers.”
Murray Rothbard
I'm a firm believer in enumerated powers...
rbdwiggins Friday, January 9th at 11:32PM EST (link)Sadly, the size and scope of the federal government will continue to grow until control is wrested from government schools, and the rehabilitation of our public schools is well underway.
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.” – Ronald Reagan
Here's another reason to get out of the way..... It's focus group time in the O's world.
Kenny Solomon Thursday, January 8th at 8:33PM EST (link)From Bloomberg News……
Obama Uses Poll, Focus Groups to Sell Stimulus Plan to Congress
President-elect Barack Obama’s top political aides are transplanting their campaign tactics to the policy arena, using data from polls and focus groups to shape the debate over a stimulus plan that may cost at least $775 billion.
David Axelrod, Obama’s chief political adviser, along with campaign media adviser Jim Margolis, are encouraging lawmakers to use the word “recovery” instead of recession, and “investment” instead of “infrastructure.” Those recommendations came from focus-group research indicating that such framing would make the package more appealing to voters.
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Can we vote these people off the island now or do we have to go through a civil war to deal with this ?
Of course you can have my guns……. Bullets first.
I didn’t say rounds, shells or magazines……
I said bullets first.
Why, how Clintonian...
cookcountyconservative Thursday, January 8th at 10:09PM EST (link)in fact I think I smell Dick Morris.
Do we have to go through a civil war to deal with this ?
izoneguy Thursday, January 8th at 8:37PM EST (link)I vote for civil war. We can take them out in no time…
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
works for me
DerKrieger Thursday, January 8th at 9:16PM EST (link)Yes, if we Conservatives don’t fight then we will become indentured servants even slaves to our fellow Americans who seem to be unable to understand what liberty is.
“In questions of power, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” - Thomas Jefferson
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence (OBAMACARE – mine), the money of their constituents.” – James Madison
Well written. Now just post it again and again
icbm Thursday, January 8th at 8:44PM EST (link)every day, in different words maybe, but with the same message, to make it as clear as possible to Congress that Republican voters do not want any part of a bailout / stimulus / fake tax cut.
This should have more recommends than it does.
itrytobenice Thursday, January 8th at 11:06PM EST (link)I know our recommended diaries doesn’t work, but people on the Hill still read RS. This diary (and its comments) should be recommended by every conservative on this site.
The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?