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		<title>By: randy streu</title>
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		<dc:creator>randy streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if we're supposed to be getting paid, evidently the USGOP hasn't gotten the memo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we&#8217;re supposed to be getting paid, evidently the USGOP hasn&#8217;t gotten the memo.</p>
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		<title>By: red4ever</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you know there are Obamites who truly believe that conservative organizations are paying people to go on blogs and newsppaper websites in order to post negative things about The One.   Unlike, the true believers who proselytize for free.   Nope, the only way to get counters to the Message is to pay people to do it.    And of course, no one would do it on their own, it must be at the direction of the right wing conspiracy.    To this I have just one thing to say --- Where's my check???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know there are Obamites who truly believe that conservative organizations are paying people to go on blogs and newsppaper websites in order to post negative things about The One.   Unlike, the true believers who proselytize for free.   Nope, the only way to get counters to the Message is to pay people to do it.    And of course, no one would do it on their own, it must be at the direction of the right wing conspiracy.    To this I have just one thing to say &#8212; Where&#8217;s my check???</p>
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		<title>By: AKSteveB</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and yes like all of you, I had a lot more freedom than my daughter.  We went to school, hung with our friends, definitely drank and partied our share in HS, didn't have our lives organized by adults and were generally "good kids."  

The thing for me was the realization from the first time my parents started taking me on trips to the rest of the country (and for those who don't know ..even upstate New York is a VERY different world from the NYC area), I knew I wanted out.  Even at that time I knew I was meant to be in a less urban place.  My teenage rebellion if you want to call it that was to want to be on my own as young as I could and not just follow the "Nice Jewish Boy from the burbs" path of "go to a good college, then move on to become a doctor or a lawyer."  Politically I was Alex B. Keaton.  I hated the Sing Kumbaya Orthodoxy even back then.  My first activism was as a Student Govt. member at SUNY Stony Brook working to remove the forced "activity fee" payments to NYPIRG, the Ralph Nader PIRG there.  We lost btw.

When I got married, it was with the condition that we be out of the NYC area within 3 years.  When that time I came I told my wife I was going with her or without her.  She eventually showed up :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and yes like all of you, I had a lot more freedom than my daughter.  We went to school, hung with our friends, definitely drank and partied our share in HS, didn&#8217;t have our lives organized by adults and were generally &#8220;good kids.&#8221;  </p>
<p>The thing for me was the realization from the first time my parents started taking me on trips to the rest of the country (and for those who don&#8217;t know ..even upstate New York is a VERY different world from the NYC area), I knew I wanted out.  Even at that time I knew I was meant to be in a less urban place.  My teenage rebellion if you want to call it that was to want to be on my own as young as I could and not just follow the &#8220;Nice Jewish Boy from the burbs&#8221; path of &#8220;go to a good college, then move on to become a doctor or a lawyer.&#8221;  Politically I was Alex B. Keaton.  I hated the Sing Kumbaya Orthodoxy even back then.  My first activism was as a Student Govt. member at SUNY Stony Brook working to remove the forced &#8220;activity fee&#8221; payments to NYPIRG, the Ralph Nader PIRG there.  We lost btw.</p>
<p>When I got married, it was with the condition that we be out of the NYC area within 3 years.  When that time I came I told my wife I was going with her or without her.  She eventually showed up <img src='http://www.redstate.com/mark_i/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: olsmithie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because he said his finances always did better under Demoncratic administrations...

Haven't heard much from him lately..

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because he said his finances always did better under Demoncratic administrations&#8230;</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t heard much from him lately..</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When school was out I left after breakfast, maybe came home for dinner and supper and came in at dark or later.  Nobody worried about us and if anybody was armed, and we usually were, it was for snakes and for hunting squrrils or rabbits or birds.  Bicycles through the woods, later motorcycles, and old cars and trucks.  When we got older, if the cops caught us with beer or with some girl we shouldn't have been with, the most that happened is you got told to go home and they took your beer or gave you the "you know what her daddy would do to you" lecture.

My daughter was raised mostly as an urban creature in ATL and Anchorage but we still got out in the woods a lot.  We both worked so she was a latchstring kid and if she was supposed to be home by 3:30, if she hadn't called by 3:40, I took off and was headed home.  That's one thing I really liked about Juneau, you didn't have to worry about her safety here other than the things you worry about with any teenaged girl.  When you have a boy, you worry about one boy in the neighborhood, when you have a girl, you worry about ALL boys in the neighborhood.

Now, my step kids are another story; you couldn't get them out of the house with a cattle prod!  They all had to have 21 speed mountain bikes but the only time any of them ever saw dirt was for a couple of years there was about a three foot dirt gap between the end of my  paved driveway and the paved road.  Hated camping, hated going out on the boat - no TV.  Now that they're older they like the boat, especially if I'm buying the gas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When school was out I left after breakfast, maybe came home for dinner and supper and came in at dark or later.  Nobody worried about us and if anybody was armed, and we usually were, it was for snakes and for hunting squrrils or rabbits or birds.  Bicycles through the woods, later motorcycles, and old cars and trucks.  When we got older, if the cops caught us with beer or with some girl we shouldn&#8217;t have been with, the most that happened is you got told to go home and they took your beer or gave you the &#8220;you know what her daddy would do to you&#8221; lecture.</p>
<p>My daughter was raised mostly as an urban creature in ATL and Anchorage but we still got out in the woods a lot.  We both worked so she was a latchstring kid and if she was supposed to be home by 3:30, if she hadn&#8217;t called by 3:40, I took off and was headed home.  That&#8217;s one thing I really liked about Juneau, you didn&#8217;t have to worry about her safety here other than the things you worry about with any teenaged girl.  When you have a boy, you worry about one boy in the neighborhood, when you have a girl, you worry about ALL boys in the neighborhood.</p>
<p>Now, my step kids are another story; you couldn&#8217;t get them out of the house with a cattle prod!  They all had to have 21 speed mountain bikes but the only time any of them ever saw dirt was for a couple of years there was about a three foot dirt gap between the end of my  paved driveway and the paved road.  Hated camping, hated going out on the boat - no TV.  Now that they&#8217;re older they like the boat, especially if I&#8217;m buying the gas.</p>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
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		<dc:creator>redneck_hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too, I guess. I was a Kansas transplant to the Chicago suburbs in '60. That was enough of a culture shock to keep me from needing any more. Married one year out of high school and never took any interest in politics until '92. Had Perot signs all over my car--the same car I drive today. Didn't glue them on, so I guess it's still safe for me to drive in Missouri (see Blue Collar Muse's Diary of today).

No mink habits and only one joint which my hippie brother-in-law talked me into. Not that I didn't have plenty of opportunity for both, heh heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too, I guess. I was a Kansas transplant to the Chicago suburbs in &#8216;60. That was enough of a culture shock to keep me from needing any more. Married one year out of high school and never took any interest in politics until &#8216;92. Had Perot signs all over my car&#8211;the same car I drive today. Didn&#8217;t glue them on, so I guess it&#8217;s still safe for me to drive in Missouri (see Blue Collar Muse&#8217;s Diary of today).</p>
<p>No mink habits and only one joint which my hippie brother-in-law talked me into. Not that I didn&#8217;t have plenty of opportunity for both, heh heh.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>remark.  ~~Smile~~  But I also figured that you would pretty much agree with me about the rest of it.  Being raised in Nashville during the 50's and 60's was not too much different than being raised in a small town in the South of that time.  I have memories of farmers bringing their produce to town to sell on wagons pulled by horses or mules back in the late 50's in Nashville.

It is such a shame that my son, and now his children, never knew the joy of running around on a dusky summer evening with a crowd of other neighborhood kids, catching lightening bugs, playing Red Rover and Hide and Seek with not a single parent worried about where we were or what we were doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remark.  ~~Smile~~  But I also figured that you would pretty much agree with me about the rest of it.  Being raised in Nashville during the 50&#8217;s and 60&#8217;s was not too much different than being raised in a small town in the South of that time.  I have memories of farmers bringing their produce to town to sell on wagons pulled by horses or mules back in the late 50&#8217;s in Nashville.</p>
<p>It is such a shame that my son, and now his children, never knew the joy of running around on a dusky summer evening with a crowd of other neighborhood kids, catching lightening bugs, playing Red Rover and Hide and Seek with not a single parent worried about where we were or what we were doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no imagination these children.

I sorta went back and forth; too freak to be a Greek, too Greek to really be a freak.  But I was a musician and had a bit of a taste for "recreational substances"  and that like a mink thing janis was talking about.  Never was much into the politics.  Didn't want to go to Vietnam, but not so much that I did anything to keep from going other than stay in school.

Unless you went through it, you don't know what small town draft boards were like; my hair was just long enough that every time I went home somebody would see me and the Board would reclassify me 1-A and I'd have to go through the drill to get my 2-S back.  That'll give you an attitude!  But, nevertheless, I was still way to much the "Country Boy" with all that entailed to get into what was essentially an urban culture of the counter-culture.  Anyway, I just stopped going home and when I wasn't in school, I was in Atlanta or NO or down in FL making music; there'll forever be a place in my heart for FSU coeds!  Anyway, I hated school and when the lottery came along and I had a high number, I quit.  By that time I was married (Georgia coed, not FSU), soon had a kid, and all that stuff just faded to gray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no imagination these children.</p>
<p>I sorta went back and forth; too freak to be a Greek, too Greek to really be a freak.  But I was a musician and had a bit of a taste for &#8220;recreational substances&#8221;  and that like a mink thing janis was talking about.  Never was much into the politics.  Didn&#8217;t want to go to Vietnam, but not so much that I did anything to keep from going other than stay in school.</p>
<p>Unless you went through it, you don&#8217;t know what small town draft boards were like; my hair was just long enough that every time I went home somebody would see me and the Board would reclassify me 1-A and I&#8217;d have to go through the drill to get my 2-S back.  That&#8217;ll give you an attitude!  But, nevertheless, I was still way to much the &#8220;Country Boy&#8221; with all that entailed to get into what was essentially an urban culture of the counter-culture.  Anyway, I just stopped going home and when I wasn&#8217;t in school, I was in Atlanta or NO or down in FL making music; there&#8217;ll forever be a place in my heart for FSU coeds!  Anyway, I hated school and when the lottery came along and I had a high number, I quit.  By that time I was married (Georgia coed, not FSU), soon had a kid, and all that stuff just faded to gray.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>parents, but it was fairly mild all things considered.  Throughout the 70's and 80's, I argued with them about the Republican party and, at least on the surface, held to liberal beliefs.  Having a child and seeing him grow up in the Clinton years changed a lot of my fuzzy-headed thinking, probably because it was theoretical previously, but now I could see how morally bankrupt and unlivable those "beliefs" actually were when confronted by reality.

As I have said here before, September 11, 2001  finished the job and, like AKSteveB said last night, I completely fell off the fence and never looked back.  Once that happens, everything else falls into place and life becomes so much easier.

Now my parents can't believe how involved in politics I have become and how ardent a conservative I am.   Funny, that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parents, but it was fairly mild all things considered.  Throughout the 70&#8217;s and 80&#8217;s, I argued with them about the Republican party and, at least on the surface, held to liberal beliefs.  Having a child and seeing him grow up in the Clinton years changed a lot of my fuzzy-headed thinking, probably because it was theoretical previously, but now I could see how morally bankrupt and unlivable those &#8220;beliefs&#8221; actually were when confronted by reality.</p>
<p>As I have said here before, September 11, 2001  finished the job and, like AKSteveB said last night, I completely fell off the fence and never looked back.  Once that happens, everything else falls into place and life becomes so much easier.</p>
<p>Now my parents can&#8217;t believe how involved in politics I have become and how ardent a conservative I am.   Funny, that.</p>
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		<title>By: redneck_hippie</title>
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		<dc:creator>redneck_hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never revolted against the government in the 60's either. I had no reason to revolt against even my parents, really. Their values guided me then and they still guide me now. Don't lie, cheat or steal and love thy neighbor. Those who were deep into the counter-culture then are not much different from the kook fringe of today, only their slogans have changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never revolted against the government in the 60&#8217;s either. I had no reason to revolt against even my parents, really. Their values guided me then and they still guide me now. Don&#8217;t lie, cheat or steal and love thy neighbor. Those who were deep into the counter-culture then are not much different from the kook fringe of today, only their slogans have changed.</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although we haven't seen any of them for quite some time in this neighborhood.  I really would to sit down in person with you, gamecock, and Achance and just throw topics out there for discussion.

Goodness, wouldn't that be one for the books?  Or, perhaps, as the line goes, "Goodness had nuthin' to do with it."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although we haven&#8217;t seen any of them for quite some time in this neighborhood.  I really would to sit down in person with you, gamecock, and Achance and just throw topics out there for discussion.</p>
<p>Goodness, wouldn&#8217;t that be one for the books?  Or, perhaps, as the line goes, &#8220;Goodness had nuthin&#8217; to do with it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you get this one.  (I so wish I had other options for internet service other than the local one that holds us all hostage.  :-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you get this one.  (I so wish I had other options for internet service other than the local one that holds us all hostage.  :-))</p>
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		<title>By: janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>assume that all Boomers were hippies, doing drugs, protesting the Vietnam war, and copulating like minks instead of going to school, looking for a job and getting married.  Many of us, probably the majority, looked upon the protests as something that other people did and were ashamed to have our soldiers treated as baby-killers.

While many of us participated to one degree or another in the drug culture, most who did so left that behind to work, marry, have kids, and just grow up.  To blame that generation wholesale for every single bad thing that is happening now is ridiculous.  For most of us who grew up then, we knew an America that was much more free than it is today, and political correctness was just a distant malignancy on the horizon.  We were allowed to take all kinds of chances growing up, from tree-climbing, to having BB guns, to bike-riding without a helmet, to running all over the neighborhood or countryside with siblings or friends.  If you deserved an F on something at school, you got one.  When you made an A, you knew that you had earned it.  Self-esteem was earned by working for it.

So for that generation, I will speak for them here:

We are sickened beyond belief by what is happening to our country.  And we are willing with everything we have and are to fight to stop this destruction of everything we hold dear.  And you can be assured that it will be Boomers who are more than prepared to do exactly that---put it all on the line and bleed if that's what it takes to save this land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>assume that all Boomers were hippies, doing drugs, protesting the Vietnam war, and copulating like minks instead of going to school, looking for a job and getting married.  Many of us, probably the majority, looked upon the protests as something that other people did and were ashamed to have our soldiers treated as baby-killers.</p>
<p>While many of us participated to one degree or another in the drug culture, most who did so left that behind to work, marry, have kids, and just grow up.  To blame that generation wholesale for every single bad thing that is happening now is ridiculous.  For most of us who grew up then, we knew an America that was much more free than it is today, and political correctness was just a distant malignancy on the horizon.  We were allowed to take all kinds of chances growing up, from tree-climbing, to having BB guns, to bike-riding without a helmet, to running all over the neighborhood or countryside with siblings or friends.  If you deserved an F on something at school, you got one.  When you made an A, you knew that you had earned it.  Self-esteem was earned by working for it.</p>
<p>So for that generation, I will speak for them here:</p>
<p>We are sickened beyond belief by what is happening to our country.  And we are willing with everything we have and are to fight to stop this destruction of everything we hold dear.  And you can be assured that it will be Boomers who are more than prepared to do exactly that&#8212;put it all on the line and bleed if that&#8217;s what it takes to save this land.</p>
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		<title>By: olsmithie</title>
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		<dc:creator>olsmithie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for the organizing drives I have dealt with in the past.

When you get tired of threats and having children shot while sleeping in their bed, you will sign.
(All documented by our New Yawk Lawyers.)

During 2 organizing drives that I dealt with,the Stealworkers got plenty of cards signed, then mysteriously, when the secret ballot occurred, they always came up short.

Imagine that.

Card check is a free ride in anywhere they please. 
Threats and intimidation work fairly well.

Card check is a bigger deal than most folks think.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for the organizing drives I have dealt with in the past.</p>
<p>When you get tired of threats and having children shot while sleeping in their bed, you will sign.<br />
(All documented by our New Yawk Lawyers.)</p>
<p>During 2 organizing drives that I dealt with,the Stealworkers got plenty of cards signed, then mysteriously, when the secret ballot occurred, they always came up short.</p>
<p>Imagine that.</p>
<p>Card check is a free ride in anywhere they please.<br />
Threats and intimidation work fairly well.</p>
<p>Card check is a bigger deal than most folks think.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the mid-Sixties, 40% of the Country's population was 19 or under.  Americans had purchasing power and affluence never before even contemplated.  Frankly, the "adults" were simply overwhelmed by the demographic tsunami.

The Sixties weren't nearly as wild as they are portrayed.  None of the acid rock or political bands ever dominated the charts.  The Billboard #1 song of '65 was Barry Sadler's "Ballad of the Green Berets."  The Beatles and Stones had some hits once they moved to more political themes but by the late Sixties their heyday was behind them.  Only the hardcore listed to the hard core or went to the demostrations or burnt draft cards or any of that stuff; its just that even a very small percentage of such a large group is still a very large group.  Most of the children of the sixties finished high school or college, got married, got a job, had kids and tried to make it in the world of 20% mortgages and 10% inflation; the Seventies and early Eighties were hard on both marriages and attitudes.

The overwhelming cultural changes came after the Sixties and only somewhat because of them.  The draft kept a lot of people in college and got lots of people degrees they shouldn't have and wouldn't have gotten under other circumstances.  A lot of those people who stayed in school to dodge the draft and got those PhDs were dedicated Lefties and they've become moreso in the ensuing years, they just dress better and can talk longer without dropping an F-bomb.  There were enough of them to fundamentally change the educational system and academic culture, the results of which you are now seeing in Obamunism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the mid-Sixties, 40% of the Country&#8217;s population was 19 or under.  Americans had purchasing power and affluence never before even contemplated.  Frankly, the &#8220;adults&#8221; were simply overwhelmed by the demographic tsunami.</p>
<p>The Sixties weren&#8217;t nearly as wild as they are portrayed.  None of the acid rock or political bands ever dominated the charts.  The Billboard #1 song of &#8216;65 was Barry Sadler&#8217;s &#8220;Ballad of the Green Berets.&#8221;  The Beatles and Stones had some hits once they moved to more political themes but by the late Sixties their heyday was behind them.  Only the hardcore listed to the hard core or went to the demostrations or burnt draft cards or any of that stuff; its just that even a very small percentage of such a large group is still a very large group.  Most of the children of the sixties finished high school or college, got married, got a job, had kids and tried to make it in the world of 20% mortgages and 10% inflation; the Seventies and early Eighties were hard on both marriages and attitudes.</p>
<p>The overwhelming cultural changes came after the Sixties and only somewhat because of them.  The draft kept a lot of people in college and got lots of people degrees they shouldn&#8217;t have and wouldn&#8217;t have gotten under other circumstances.  A lot of those people who stayed in school to dodge the draft and got those PhDs were dedicated Lefties and they&#8217;ve become moreso in the ensuing years, they just dress better and can talk longer without dropping an F-bomb.  There were enough of them to fundamentally change the educational system and academic culture, the results of which you are now seeing in Obamunism.</p>
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		<title>By: $peciallist</title>
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		<dc:creator>$peciallist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we need a Million white, male, professional construction worker March!

A Caucasian is a terrible thing to waste...

how about a United white, male, professional construction worker College fund?

Dick cheney the doberman...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we need a Million white, male, professional construction worker March!</p>
<p>A Caucasian is a terrible thing to waste&#8230;</p>
<p>how about a United white, male, professional construction worker College fund?</p>
<p>Dick cheney the doberman&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: furious</title>
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		<dc:creator>furious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...in support of Our Leader's policies, or shall we tear up your ration card and residency permit right now?"

You think I'm joking?  The Block Safety Committees are forming now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;in support of Our Leader&#8217;s policies, or shall we tear up your ration card and residency permit right now?&#8221;</p>
<p>You think I&#8217;m joking?  The Block Safety Committees are forming now.</p>
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		<title>By: spedteacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>spedteacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This chapter would have made a whole movie on its own. Perhaps one day it will. There would have been no way to include it into the Return of the King. The content was too large. My personal opinion.
But, can't you just see it: Sharkey and his goons are the president and his goons. The Hobbits are the Republicans - Conservatives who have come back only to see their country being trashed, and thus decide to take it back their way. 
We can do it. We are becoming one in our thinking, good thinking. The story of the Hundredth Monkey also comes to mind.
The behavior of President Sharkey and his goons cannot go on for long before people of character and loyalty finally say "enough" and begin to form battle lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This chapter would have made a whole movie on its own. Perhaps one day it will. There would have been no way to include it into the Return of the King. The content was too large. My personal opinion.<br />
But, can&#8217;t you just see it: Sharkey and his goons are the president and his goons. The Hobbits are the Republicans - Conservatives who have come back only to see their country being trashed, and thus decide to take it back their way.<br />
We can do it. We are becoming one in our thinking, good thinking. The story of the Hundredth Monkey also comes to mind.<br />
The behavior of President Sharkey and his goons cannot go on for long before people of character and loyalty finally say &#8220;enough&#8221; and begin to form battle lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike gamecock DeVine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike gamecock DeVine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has the potential to greatly increase unionization and cause violence if its tried among non-receptive audiences.

Both aspects are very bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has the potential to greatly increase unionization and cause violence if its tried among non-receptive audiences.</p>
<p>Both aspects are very bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word was that Costco, Starbucks, and some other company would support card check if the threshold for recognition was upped to 70%.  Those are both Democrat/union friendly companies, so I don't know what this means.

In reality, the 50% recognition piece is the less important piece of the legislation.  First, a union needs either overwhelming support or overwhelming apathy in the membership.  A union needs compelled dues as quickly as possible after recognition: it costs a lot to organize a unit and negtiate the first agreement.  If they only have 50% of the employees on board with them and try to put the whole unit under a compelled dues system, they have a built in dissident group that can make the leadership miserable and make it difficult to ratify agreements.  I've held all along that the big companies won't oppose this legislation so long as they can be assured that their competitors will be organized as well.  They don't care what labor costs so long as it costs their competitors the same.

The important part of EFCA is the compelled arbitration.  Any union would sacrifice the card check piece in a heartbeat to know that if they could win an election, they'd have an agreement undoubtedly with a union security clause within 120 days or so and security for the next two years.  That takes away the employer's primary tool for decertifying a new union; dragging out the negotiations until the current one year insulation period is over.  Then if after a year there is no agreement, nobody much is paying dues, and if the employer has been smart, the workforce has lost its ardor for the union, the employer moves to decertify the union as the exclusive representative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word was that Costco, Starbucks, and some other company would support card check if the threshold for recognition was upped to 70%.  Those are both Democrat/union friendly companies, so I don&#8217;t know what this means.</p>
<p>In reality, the 50% recognition piece is the less important piece of the legislation.  First, a union needs either overwhelming support or overwhelming apathy in the membership.  A union needs compelled dues as quickly as possible after recognition: it costs a lot to organize a unit and negtiate the first agreement.  If they only have 50% of the employees on board with them and try to put the whole unit under a compelled dues system, they have a built in dissident group that can make the leadership miserable and make it difficult to ratify agreements.  I&#8217;ve held all along that the big companies won&#8217;t oppose this legislation so long as they can be assured that their competitors will be organized as well.  They don&#8217;t care what labor costs so long as it costs their competitors the same.</p>
<p>The important part of EFCA is the compelled arbitration.  Any union would sacrifice the card check piece in a heartbeat to know that if they could win an election, they&#8217;d have an agreement undoubtedly with a union security clause within 120 days or so and security for the next two years.  That takes away the employer&#8217;s primary tool for decertifying a new union; dragging out the negotiations until the current one year insulation period is over.  Then if after a year there is no agreement, nobody much is paying dues, and if the employer has been smart, the workforce has lost its ardor for the union, the employer moves to decertify the union as the exclusive representative.</p>
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