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	<title>Comments on: Topinka&#8217;s last ad against Blago in 2006.  She knew.</title>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_kilmer/2008/12/11/topinkas-last-ad-against-blago-in-2006-she-knew/#comment-2563</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Four out of Five Illinois Governors recommend Joliet State Prison!</description>
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		<title>By: dld1717</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is why I have zero sympathy for Illinois voters and now all these Dems shocked by him are full of crap and bad manners

Topinka not perfect had proven herself as Treasurer and yet they still voted for a man who they knew deep down was corrupt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why I have zero sympathy for Illinois voters and now all these Dems shocked by him are full of crap and bad manners</p>
<p>Topinka not perfect had proven herself as Treasurer and yet they still voted for a man who they knew deep down was corrupt</p>
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		<title>By: IL_Glock21</title>
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		<dc:creator>IL_Glock21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eisendrath is a he not a she... had a "her" typo in there instead of a him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eisendrath is a he not a she&#8230; had a &#8220;her&#8221; typo in there instead of a him.</p>
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		<title>By: IL_Glock21</title>
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		<dc:creator>IL_Glock21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the 2006 election where Blago was re-elected, with strong support of Democratic leadership, and continued endorsements from his Chicago cronies (Obama included), in spite low popularity among voters that drove a relatively strong Green Party showing by defecting Dems:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Overall the GOP had over a 14% drop from their previous governor vote totals.

Blagojevich had a 6% drop.

The number of people who actually voted for governor only dropped 1.5%. The explanation was the relatively strong showing by the Green Party candidate, Whiney, who more than tripled the 3rd party showing from 2002 even before figuring in the others. Blagojevich came up over a 110,000 votes shy of his earlier totals and a more liberal 3rd party candidate picked up over 360,000 votes. Meanwhile the GOP bled off more than 220,000 votes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A county by county breakdown showed the most dramatic percentage drops of Republican support in traditionally conservative counties, and though the Chicago area is generally considered liberal, it also contains a significant portion of the Republican voters too, the Chicago area bled a great deal of Republican voters as well.

2006 was a double hit against the IL GOP with the national backlash against Republicans having a coattail effect in State/local elections, but worse with a further "RINO" effect against Topinka who had some notoriously socially liberal views.  And even worse in that Topinka was smeared for her association with George Ryan directly in attack ads... which increased the doubts that a Republican would be less corrupt, especially as Ryan, the last Republican governor, was on his way to prison.

2006 was the year the IL GOP lost every state-wide office to the Dems and the Dems gained a supermajority in both houses of the General Assembly here.

Not sure if anything could have changed the 2006 general election results.  Everything was working against the GOP that year.  It doesn't get the Democratic leadership off the hook for swinging their support to Blago over Eisen in the primaries though.  Eisen actually had a fairly decent showing under the circumstances (no dem leadership support and running against an incumbent of her own party).

The Dem primary in 2006 was, for all intents and purposes, the governor election that year, and Democratic leaders demonstrably backed a well known corrupt yahoo they didn't like that much out of fears they wouldn't achieve a full strangehold on power.  Instead they didn't get the power (Blago, as expected, continued to run his office as a petit dictator in spite of their desires for policy) and they got themselves a far more embarrassing corruption black eye.

Granted, I was frustrated by the GOP infighting in the general given how much I despised King Rod, but while that was a significant factor, it was driven by frustrations with the national party and previous problems with the State party as well.  The primary blame must be laid at the feet of the Democratic leadership, especially the Chicago machine politicians and those in bed with them, who looked the other way or personally gained at the expense of our State's image and prosperity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the 2006 election where Blago was re-elected, with strong support of Democratic leadership, and continued endorsements from his Chicago cronies (Obama included), in spite low popularity among voters that drove a relatively strong Green Party showing by defecting Dems:</p>
<blockquote><p>Overall the GOP had over a 14% drop from their previous governor vote totals.</p>
<p>Blagojevich had a 6% drop.</p>
<p>The number of people who actually voted for governor only dropped 1.5%. The explanation was the relatively strong showing by the Green Party candidate, Whiney, who more than tripled the 3rd party showing from 2002 even before figuring in the others. Blagojevich came up over a 110,000 votes shy of his earlier totals and a more liberal 3rd party candidate picked up over 360,000 votes. Meanwhile the GOP bled off more than 220,000 votes.</p></blockquote>
<p>A county by county breakdown showed the most dramatic percentage drops of Republican support in traditionally conservative counties, and though the Chicago area is generally considered liberal, it also contains a significant portion of the Republican voters too, the Chicago area bled a great deal of Republican voters as well.</p>
<p>2006 was a double hit against the IL GOP with the national backlash against Republicans having a coattail effect in State/local elections, but worse with a further &#8220;RINO&#8221; effect against Topinka who had some notoriously socially liberal views.  And even worse in that Topinka was smeared for her association with George Ryan directly in attack ads&#8230; which increased the doubts that a Republican would be less corrupt, especially as Ryan, the last Republican governor, was on his way to prison.</p>
<p>2006 was the year the IL GOP lost every state-wide office to the Dems and the Dems gained a supermajority in both houses of the General Assembly here.</p>
<p>Not sure if anything could have changed the 2006 general election results.  Everything was working against the GOP that year.  It doesn&#8217;t get the Democratic leadership off the hook for swinging their support to Blago over Eisen in the primaries though.  Eisen actually had a fairly decent showing under the circumstances (no dem leadership support and running against an incumbent of her own party).</p>
<p>The Dem primary in 2006 was, for all intents and purposes, the governor election that year, and Democratic leaders demonstrably backed a well known corrupt yahoo they didn&#8217;t like that much out of fears they wouldn&#8217;t achieve a full strangehold on power.  Instead they didn&#8217;t get the power (Blago, as expected, continued to run his office as a petit dictator in spite of their desires for policy) and they got themselves a far more embarrassing corruption black eye.</p>
<p>Granted, I was frustrated by the GOP infighting in the general given how much I despised King Rod, but while that was a significant factor, it was driven by frustrations with the national party and previous problems with the State party as well.  The primary blame must be laid at the feet of the Democratic leadership, especially the Chicago machine politicians and those in bed with them, who looked the other way or personally gained at the expense of our State&#8217;s image and prosperity.</p>
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		<title>By: WHAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>WHAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people of Illinois can't say they weren't warned about Blago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people of Illinois can&#8217;t say they weren&#8217;t warned about Blago.</p>
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		<title>By: RandomGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>RandomGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That there was a LOT of people saying "Topinka is a RINO!!!  I'll never vote for her!  I'd rather vote for a third party/sit on my hands" etc.

I think you people are every bit as complicit as the people who voted for BigLieOvich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That there was a LOT of people saying &#8220;Topinka is a RINO!!!  I&#8217;ll never vote for her!  I&#8217;d rather vote for a third party/sit on my hands&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>I think you people are every bit as complicit as the people who voted for BigLieOvich.</p>
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		<title>By: KyleH</title>
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		<dc:creator>KyleH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This situation should be the poster child for negative campaigning.  Take a good look all you people (probably not any Redstaters) who want to restrict political free speech because you feel that campaigns are just too negative.  Next time a politician complains that his opponent is too negative, better dig a little deeper into his history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This situation should be the poster child for negative campaigning.  Take a good look all you people (probably not any Redstaters) who want to restrict political free speech because you feel that campaigns are just too negative.  Next time a politician complains that his opponent is too negative, better dig a little deeper into his history.</p>
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		<title>By: renegade</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mark_kilmer/2008/12/11/topinkas-last-ad-against-blago-in-2006-she-knew/#comment-2554</link>
		<dc:creator>renegade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The immortal words of H.L. Mencken on full display,

"No-one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people".  It looks like the people in Illinois and the all the Obama supporters are in the front of that line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The immortal words of H.L. Mencken on full display,</p>
<p>&#8220;No-one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people&#8221;.  It looks like the people in Illinois and the all the Obama supporters are in the front of that line.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Kilmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Kilmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is a liberal, but he's not a latter-day lefty.  He cares for his country and is not nuts.

He's a professional.

(Oh, man, I hope I haven't just written the man's obituary!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is a liberal, but he&#8217;s not a latter-day lefty.  He cares for his country and is not nuts.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a professional.</p>
<p>(Oh, man, I hope I haven&#8217;t just written the man&#8217;s obituary!)</p>
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		<title>By: Kowalski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kowalski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a follow up to this, &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/10/AR2008121002946.html?hpid=opinionsbox1" rel="nofollow"&gt;David Broder has a good article in the Washington Post.&lt;/a&gt;  Broder's one of the columnists I respect, and this is one of those occasions when I can imagine us looking at each other from across the aisle and just shaking our heads.

In particular, we're on the same wavelenth inre: Blagojevich's ascention to power, as well as the feelings he generated later on:

&lt;blockquote&gt;[Flash back to 2002]:  When I went to Chicago to cover their pre-primary debate, Blagojevich, a boyish-looking young congressman who got his seat thanks to the clout of his father-in-law, an influential Chicago alderman, was by far the least impressive candidate. He had made no particular mark on Capitol Hill, and he seemed much less informed on Illinois issues than his rivals. 

I was inclined to dismiss his chances, but a longtime Chicago reporter friend told me, "Don't write him off. He's a money machine.

[Fast-forward to 2007-8]:

On a visit to the Lincoln Library in Springfield, I was told by leaders of both parties that "this is the worst" they had ever seen. 

Republicans or Democrats, they readily confessed that their heartfelt prayer was that something would occur to rid them of Blagojevich. "&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a follow up to this, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/10/AR2008121002946.html?hpid=opinionsbox1" rel="nofollow">David Broder has a good article in the Washington Post.</a>  Broder&#8217;s one of the columnists I respect, and this is one of those occasions when I can imagine us looking at each other from across the aisle and just shaking our heads.</p>
<p>In particular, we&#8217;re on the same wavelenth inre: Blagojevich&#8217;s ascention to power, as well as the feelings he generated later on:</p>
<blockquote><p>[Flash back to 2002]:  When I went to Chicago to cover their pre-primary debate, Blagojevich, a boyish-looking young congressman who got his seat thanks to the clout of his father-in-law, an influential Chicago alderman, was by far the least impressive candidate. He had made no particular mark on Capitol Hill, and he seemed much less informed on Illinois issues than his rivals. </p>
<p>I was inclined to dismiss his chances, but a longtime Chicago reporter friend told me, &#8220;Don&#8217;t write him off. He&#8217;s a money machine.</p>
<p>[Fast-forward to 2007-8]:</p>
<p>On a visit to the Lincoln Library in Springfield, I was told by leaders of both parties that &#8220;this is the worst&#8221; they had ever seen. </p>
<p>Republicans or Democrats, they readily confessed that their heartfelt prayer was that something would occur to rid them of Blagojevich. &#8220;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: 10ksnooker</title>
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		<dc:creator>10ksnooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And can't figure out why.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love 'em.  They do the same thing in NJ.  "Oh, a Democrat.  I'll vote for him.   What?!  There's a budget shortfall in the tens of billions and they want to raise property taxes?!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love &#8216;em.  They do the same thing in NJ.  &#8220;Oh, a Democrat.  I&#8217;ll vote for him.   What?!  There&#8217;s a budget shortfall in the tens of billions and they want to raise property taxes?!&#8221;</p>
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