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Dear Sen. McCain … Go Suck A Lemon.

By: Martin Knight (Diary)  |  December 14th, 2008 at 07:41 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

Echoing his silly attack on the NCGOP during the campaign, for no reason other than ingratiate himself with the hacks travelling with him in the so-called Straight Talk Express, McCain has decided to once again take aim at his party, this time the organization is the RNC, and pull the trigger.

McCain suggested the Republican National Committee’s calls for the Obama team to publicly release their conversations with Blagojevich and his people aren’t helpful.

“With all due respect to the Republican National Committee, we should try to be working constructively together,” McCain said.

And with all due respect, Sen. McCain … kindly shut the #@$! up. We tried it your way and it didn’t work. Remember? It was only few weeks ago? There was a nomination, a convention and an election? Does all that ring a bell?

At this point, one has to face the facts, McCain is a one-trick pony. It’s always “Bipartisanship” – he really has nothing else to offer. On policy – “Bipartisanship.” Politics – “Bipartisanship.” Picking judges – “Bipartisanship.” Diarrhea? “Bipartisanship.” The cure for cancer? “Bipartisanship.”

I don’t care how senior or respected he is, I think McConnell should sit him down and promise to strip him of any semblance of seniority if he so much as frowns in the general direction of another Republican.

Son of a …!

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  • janis

    It was worth every click, too. Would that McConnell would take your suggestion under advisement!

    • RedWhite_and_Truth

      nt

      • Joliphant

        but it was well worth the effort.

        You’d think a man with McCain’s war record would understand there are some people you just aren’t going to get along with.

    • Brad Smith

      The reality is that Senator McCain can’t be handled in such a matter. Can you imagine how much play the press would give that? “Right wing Republican caucus strips only bipartisan, common-sense respectable senator of his seniority.” At least that would be the message. Having been safely defeated in the presidential election, McCain would again become the media darling. And how do you think McCain would react?

      To suggest that McConnell could strip McCain of his seniority or committee assignments is to fail to understand either Senator McCain or the politics of the matter.

  • mbecker908

    Unfortunately Martin we both know Mitch won’t do that. But I’d gladly pay to see it happen.

    • AzaMatteroFact

      We had an asshat promote illegal immigration and reaching across the aisle to raise taxes.

      Damn that John McCain…

      Oops…sorry. That was Ronald Reagan who did that.

      • mbecker908

        The net result of Reagan’s term was significantly lowered taxes and a significantly stronger economy.

        As far as “promot[ing] illegal immigration” he didn’t do that and you’re showing both your ignorance and your total stupidity with that comment. Reagan signed off on an amnesty program for just over a million illegals with great trepidation. His rationale for signing it was the codified commitment by Congress to drastically increase border security on the southern border, to strengthen immigration law generally and to significantly toughen employer sanctions for hiring illegals. Congress did exactly none of those things.

        • Diogenes314

          Missed this before:

          His rationale for signing it was the codified commitment by Congress to drastically increase border security on the southern border, to strengthen immigration law generally and to significantly toughen employer sanctions for hiring illegals. Congress did exactly none of those things.

          Actually illegal immigration was sharply down from 87-92 due to enforcement efforts against employers. It was when the Caligula Clinton administration dropped investigating said employers and started threatening them with civil rights sanctions for ‘profiling’ their employees that the floodgates reopened.

      • mbecker908

        nobody reads your blog. Starting with the demonstrated and proven fact that you’re an ignorant raving idiot.

      • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

        _

  • Jaded

    nt

  • NightTwister

    In the course of an interview when you are confronted with the statement from the reporter that says,

    Well, Senator McCain said…

    you are forever required to immediately cut them off and respond thusly,

    It is the sense of the Republican caucus that Senator McCain does not now, nor for a very long time represent our views.

    Yours truly,

    Your Constituent (you know, the guy that pulls the lever for your election….or not…)

    • AceInTX

      BOOYAH

  • loftdweller3

    McCain is back in his comfort zone where he is attacking Republicans and the darling of the press in that role. Unfortunately, the RNC and Republicans in general fail to learn the basic lessson of nominaing candidates like Dole and McCain who are more interested in their version of “honor” than winning an election.
    I haven’t given money in years to the RNC because of it’s ineptitude bu would gladly contribute to a conservative challenger to McCain in Arizona in 2010.
    McCain’s campaign mantra should have been “McCain first, not country first”.

  • Kenny Solomon

    Senator McCain.

    I wish to honestly thank you for two things and advise you regarding a additional matters.

    First. Your service to The United States Of America as an officer of The United States Navy and going into harms way more than anyone should ever be required to do. Your fortitude under unspeakable conditions as a P.O.W. is beyond reproach.

    Second. It is an honor to know your dedication to The United States Of America is at the forefront of everything you do.

    Now then, in all honesty, I can’t believe that you believe that you can still “reach across the aisle” and work with people like Harry Reid and “The One”. They are dangerous at minimum and quite possibly traitorous in their words and actions.

    On to another subject……… With all due respect Senator, don’t you ever and I mean DON’T EVER think of running for any other office again. In fact, I’d take it as a personal favor if tomorrow, you’d announce you’re not seeking re-election to The Senate. If you do decide to attempt another term, or seek another office, you haven’t the slightest idea what ‘The Wrath Of RedState’ will bring down upon thy personage in rebuttal of oratory and counter-campaigning in positive concert with your primary opponents.

    In the matter of Governor Palin, how dare you, Sir….. HOW DARE YOU be part of besmirching such a fine American. The sole reason you received more than (I think this is a good guess) 25 percent of the popular vote was because of Governor Palin. If anybody ever again asks you about Governor Palin, please simply say, “A fine American, a true patriot and she will indeed be on the national scene restoring America to greatness.”

    When in doubt of the seriousness of all this, please re-read the previous items and understand I have ‘a slight affinity’ for my country as well. You and I just see things a tad differently.

    Thank you for your time and God Bless America.

    • GregInFla

      Love the comment on Sarah Palin; it is quite true.

  • Diogenes314

    We need more dividers, fewer uniters.

    With all due respect for those who believe that McClown is unassailable in the 2010 primaries, he needs a stiff challanger anyway. Just for the principle, if nothing else. I’d be willing to predict that either Shaddegg, Flake or Hayworth would set a record for contributions, in state and out.

    • AceInTX

      nt

      • Diogenes314

        To work for Shaddegg or Flake.

    • youthgrunt

      I just finished Ayn Rand’s Fountainhead. I think the term used there was “unite and rule”. The movement to become united is a movement to dominate the individual.

    • PopulistConservative

      the Dems don’t reach 60 in 2010. Let’s primary everyone who doesn’t fit Redstate’s idea of an ideal Republican. Maybe we can even get down to 30 Senate seats!

      • mbecker908

        • PopulistConservative

          Of course to be fair, I didn’t really come up with the idea of driving out all the moderates, just concuring with the genius of you guys.

      • Diogenes314

        Populist Conservative? Who’s next, Principled Moderate?

        • PopulistConservative

          Principled moderate most certainly is not. As a matter of fact everyone who support the American form of government are moderates in a sense.

          • Alberta

            Im serious, Im quite interested to know what you think moderat means.

            Also, if you hadnt noticed, the man who is to be president, the guy who won, began his long march to the white house as a hard left guy. He won the primary as a hard left guy. His money comes from hard left sources.

            You will recall, however, that he campaigned on ‘lowering 90% of American peoples taxes*’. Not a hard right move, but certianly a move associated with conservatism. Really, I dont see a lot of ‘moderate’ in that.

            *yes I know it was to be a tax hike. One its looking more and more he will renege on.

          • baseketball

            Moderates are either people who have principles that don’t line up 100% with conservative ideology, or people who compromise on their principles (even if their principles are 100% conservative) for the sake of getting an imperfect solution that is more viable (this second group is more often referred to as “squishes”).

          • aesthete

            Given that that descriptor fits McCain better than the other. The other one would better describe Repubs like Guiliani and Romney (although Romney fits into the squish category as well), while Thompson would be a conservative. In case you ask about Huck, he would qualify for the “idiot” descriptor.

  • tankertodd

    I would hope that Senator McCain would have more to say about the culture of corruption in Illinois than in speaking out against those who would call out Democrats for said corruption. I assume he did that, and the press simply ignored the comments and ran with the red meat.

    A lot of assumption here… Not going to spin up… Must not get ticked at McCain…despite a completely inept campaign…

    • Martin Knight

      I would hope that Senator McCain would have more to say about the culture of corruption in Illinois than in speaking out against those who would call out Democrats for said corruption.

      You could hope so. But this is McCain the “Bipartisan” we’re talking about and we all know that attacking Democrats violates the sacred high tenets of “Bipartisanship.”

      I swear I can’t stand to hear his name.

    • mbecker908

      Hear ‘em…

    • AceInTX

      the man hasn’t ever earned the benefit of the doubt from Me, Conservatives, or the Republican Party.

      He’s scum and it’s a first rate travesty that he was ever in the running to be our standard bearer let alone become our standard bearer…

      Mad ticked doesn’t even begin to describe what I feel toward him!

  • jbolaw

    Oh good grief, Martin Knight. Did you forget to bring your brain with you again today? And by the way, please respect the no profanity rule here. ( kindly shut the #@$! up.) This is soooooooo unRepubnican. Did your mom never wash your mouth out with soap?

    jbolaw

    • Martin Knight

      So you can go (and not so kindly) #@$! yourself.

      Have a nice day. :-D

    • randy streu

      A lefty troll admonishing a respected RS member about our rules? He didn’t even use actual profanity, you idiot.

      Now, piss off.

    • E Pluribus Unum

      Your commentary in the last 36 hours gives us all a pretty good idea of how valuable your input is.

      Bub-bye now.

    • mbecker908

    • AceInTX

      Huh…!!!

    • gclaghorn

      Moron. If you wanna see profanity, I’ll show you profanity. Now run home to your mother.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    That is all.

  • AceInTX

    BTW…he is a one trick pony, and he threw his rider into the rocks (Conservatives) with his one and only trick!

    Time to send hom to the glue factory!

    :>)

    • aesthete

      When did this happen?

  • Aaron Gardner

    I think you are being to nice Martin….he should suck rotten eggs at the least…;^)

  • fisk2521

    What McCain just did is why we lost the election. He doesn’t understand the people that he represents and really just doesn’t care. I’m guessing it was not the outpouring of youthful voters racing to the voting booth that put Obama in office, but the Republicans who decided it wasn’t worth a trip.

    Obama played McCain – - talking about bi-partisanship, while al the while he was allowing his people to do just the opposite. You have to give him credit for his successful methods – - Chicago style.

    McCain’s ‘reaching out’ is why he wouldn’t unleash Sarah….who brought his numbers up to a respectable level. He really should ask himself why that was.

    ?You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.? Winston Churchill

    • Flagstaff

      Johnny Mac might have made a fine President, but he made a terrible candidate. And to think that there were many people who said, “McCain is the ideal candidate to defeat Obama. He’s the only Republican who can.”

      As it turned out, it seems that almost ANY of the others would have done no worse, and some would have done far better.

      Speaking as one who was never gung ho about McCain, but who supported and defended him once I was forced to, I can only claim that the results of the election are exactly why McCain was second-from-the-bottom on my preference list, and I think that the next guy down (Huckabee) would have campaigned better than McCain did.

      My heaven, Johnny Mac, at least show the common decency to support and defend the woman who put her own political career on the line to support your lame-axxed attempt to become President. Was she too effective for you?

      Great job, Martin.

      • GregInFla

        n/t

  • midnightduck

    or was that Colin Powell?

  • http://conservative-and-proud.blogspot.com/ eschristian

    We all know McCain is not as quick as Bush. I am tired of these RINO’s going on tv as if he is the spokesperson for the GOP. Kind of like Obama supporter Colin Powell – Powell you know your not really a Republican – you just reaped the benefits from Republican you unloyal man!!!

    I would hate to be one of John McCain’s “my friends” because he takes his friends and undermines them and beats them down and works hard to promote the liberals and help them in any way he can!!!

    McCain you lost, now go away!!! Because of you McCain we got Obama – for goodness sakes Arizona please please do not reelect this man, let him retire and retire soon like 2010 or sooner!!!

  • jeffreywturner

    I have to point out this incredible contrast.

    How can someone who has shown such valor in his fight to defend America be so incredibly weak in defending his ideology? My only conclusion is that it isn’t his ideology. He claims to be a Reagan Republican, but I think it would be more fitting to call him a Reagan Democrat, because the reason he aligned with Reagan was his patriotism, not his ideology.

    • Martin Knight

      Was he?

      • spainishirish

        McCain couldn’t become Obama’s sycophant quickly enough to put a Republican face on legislation that the Democrats want and Americans hate. I mark that as the moment McCain jumped the shark and was no longer taken seriously. McCain had remained mute in a completely dishonorable and despciable manner as his staff verbally raped Sarah Plain for weeks. He didn’t wait a nanosecond to agree to betray his party so Obama and the Dems could push reprehenisble legislation and claim it to be “bipartisan.”

        Like most one-trick ponies, though, McCain finally jumped the shark. There was some banter here a few weeks ago about whether McCain would wield great power. I don’t believe he will. He long ago marginalized himself with the GOP, and now his Democratic Senate colleagues laugh at him either openly or behind his back. That doesn’t mean he won’t still turn tricks for them and further blur the lines between the GOP and Democratic impulses that infuriate the public. But his days are numbered, and if the Democrats are good at anything, it is smelling blood in the water. McCain probably will put a Republican face on some very bad bills for some good ink, but Democrats know he can’t deliver very much any more. Look for them to send Napolitano back to Arizona around this time in 2009.

        • spainishirish

          As if it weren’t obvious enough, Obama further showed his Democratic credentials today when he had his staff release records of their contacts with Blago. I haven’t heard McCain’s condemantion of Barack just yet.

          Poor Johnny Mac. Even a hooker grows old and useless. Maybe self-immolation will get some ink and airtime when the time comes.

        • roscopico

          McCain-sponsorship. While it seems credible that the McCain-Feingold bill was well-intended, the law of unintended consequences applies everywhere in the universe. That includes the US of A. Meanwhile, back here at the outhouse, it seems like McCain did little (if anything) to shield S. Palin when the snakes in his own office started spitting venom.
          This is unforgivable.

          Poor John may face Napolitano in 09, and his only hope is his renown for having well-handled hips as he grabs his ankles in the presence of liberals.

          Merry Christmas, and may G-d have mercy on us all.

  • Joe_Cor

    belong to a class that seems to believe in the moral inferiority of their own ideology. They all have incredible personal valor, but seem embarrassed to fight for their own ideology. We need to cultivate a class of politicians who care more for advancing conservatism than they care security guest spots on Letterman.

    • OneAmericanChristian

      43 hardly belongs on this list, he has maintained his principles and honor to the bitter end. Surely you don’t believe he’s attempting to gain a guest spot on Letterman. Just because his views are different from yours doesn’t mean he’s an ideological wash.

      • mbecker908

        43 not only belongs on the list, he heads it. You must have missed the whole point of Joe_Cor’s comment: …but seem embarrassed to fight for their own ideology. Bush sat by and let Dems and the media tell outright lies about how policy was developed, how policy was implemented, and he not only didn’t speak up in defense he actually agreed with some of their criticisms – see the 16 Words.

        Hiding under your desk when leadership is called for is not honorable nor is it principled. It’s stupid. It’s a sell-out. It’s political cowardice. And those are the character traits of GWB that have given us a nearly filibuster proof Democratic Senate, a solidly Democratic House with dozens of Democrats sitting in what should be solidly Republican seats and a Marxist wannabe President who’s suits are as empty with him in them as they are hanging in his closet.

  • john8032000

    we should never forget everything mcCain says like this, and i hope that someone challenges him for his seat, thanks to mcCain we ended up wiht hopebama as president. i hope the leadership slaps him down and now we have to keep our eyes out for things such as comprehensive imagration reform code for amnesty. please stay in touch with your rep or congressman.

  • hunter

    You fraud, you poltroon, you pompous twit.
    Give me my money back.
    With all respect due you,
    ‘hunter’

  • Vegas_Rick

    I really, really tried to be enthusiastic about McCain’s candidacy. But when I tried to convince someone to vote for McCain, I always found myself talking down the messiah rather than talking up McCain. Whenever I tried to talk him up, I felt like phony.

    But, I had no trouble explaining why Sarah Palin was good for America!

    McCain disappointed in so many ways.

    I want my money back too.

    • 1SGinTN

      “McCain disappointed in so many ways” should be “disappoints in so many ways”. He’s a gift that keeps on giving. I now dislike him much more than I ever did because of post-election behavior.

    • janis

      to point out why Obama would be a disaster for America if elected, but when it came to pointing out why McCain would be better, it was a really uphill climb.
      But it was no hardship to point with pride to his Veep pick versus the Veep pick on the other side.

      I know people who campaigned and sent money for the first time ever, and all on account of Sarah Palin. not John McCain.

  • johnt

    of the NY Times, just like the good old days. All is forgiven on both sides, the honorarium “Maverick” taken off the shelf and dusted, and uncountable appearances on the Sunday talk shows. What a relief to our hero Senator, and what a return gift to the media.

  • Rod_Patrick

    First time to return to RS and things seem to have changed so much already.

    Telling McCain to suck a lemon seems so harsh… and yet so appropriate.

    I support any effort that will destroy the “lies of bipartisanship”!!! Corruption by Democrats and RINOs as well as the bailout epidemic in America must be immediately stopped!

  • Orion_Blastar

    nominating Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee as President and Vice President picks. Both could keep the other one in check and win the 2008 election.

    John McCain has turned into a Democrat in Republican’s clothing once again. No longer the Maverick, had he been the Maverick once again he might have won the election.

    Even Barack Obama is more of a Republican than John McCain is, no wonder Obama won the electrion.

    • OneAmericanChristian

      But let’s make it Huckabee/Paul instead.

  • Kitty

    how the left felt about Lieberman

  • joshleguern

    …is why we are loosing elections and why we will continue to.

    Why should we stoop to McCain’s level? Why don’t we just ignore flaring infighting and work together with moderates to build a coalition that can win again.

    • mbecker908

      we haven’t stood for anything but “We’re not THEM!” since 1988.

  • PopulistConservative

    Great parody of angry conservatives who get so mad they could spit when ever they encounter a different opinion. What? This isn’t parody? This post is serious

    • roscopico

      Isn’t parody?
      I’m not sure I understood your post.
      In good conscience I can assure anyone interested that different opinions have value.
      But what value?
      If someone were to tell me there was no moon, their statement would still have value (if scaled from zero to 10).

      Thank you.

      • PopulistConservative

        that you swear, is so laughable, one would think it was parody. Quite frankly, I think its ridiculous to waste so much emotional energy on what any politician says, I think you should all save your anger for other things, but since being angry at McCain is what a good Rushbot does, I guess it has to be done.
        Also the idea that we should start chasing people out of the senate who aren’t perfectly loyal Republicans when we are almost down to 40 senate seats, is the idea that only a dumb idiot who is a raving lunatic would come up with.

        • roscopico

          Why bother pointing fingers if you do not understand that bipartisanship is the source of ALL our frustrations. Lose your ideology and you have nothing.
          Just as you do not negotiate with terrorists, you DO NOT cave to “progressives” or “moderates”.
          Period.

  • PopulistConservative

    like terrorists and not comprimise, than you’ll see no progress, and that’s something anybody with two brain cells ought to be able to figure out.

    • NightTwister
      • JustLeaveMeAlone

        That was priceless!

      • PopulistConservative

        Tried treating Democrats and Moderates like terrorists and didn’t comprimise? if we did that of course it would fail, but nobody who’s actually in politics is stupid enough to do that. Or maybe what you mean is that we tried comprimise in 2008, and since it didn’t work in a year in which everything was stacked against Republicans we should now try the no comprimise method, but you’re not that stupid, so what are you saying?

        • NightTwister

          Ford (1976)
          GHWB (1992)
          Dole (1996)
          McCain (2008)

          Perhaps you’re young and went to public school and never learned history.

          • PopulistConservative

            And he would have gone down to the same defeat as John McCain, only probably worse, and we could have put an end to this nonsense. Anyway I’ve never said John McCain was the guy we should have nominated ( not in this thread that is), i’ve merely been speaking out against the nonsense that we should punish anyone who speaks in favor of bipartisanship. Personally, I don’t care to let the Dems have free reign of this country, just because we want to prove a point.

          • NightTwister

            Bipartisanship is what’s gotten us into the mess we’re in.

            Bipartisanship gave us empty court seats that Obama and Congress will be only too willing to fill.

            Bipartisanship gave us eight years of unresponsiveness from the White House so the Democrats and MSM could paint the landscape their way.

            Bipartisanship gave us McCain/Feingold which allowed rich Democrats, Unions, and foreigners to buy the election.

            Do I really need to go on with this?

            The last time the Republican Party was successful was when Ronald Reagan was President. He was clear. We will not compromise our principles for even one vote. If you want to join us, fine. If not, have a nice day.

    • mbecker908

      You freaking idiot.

      1. We want terrorists killed.
      2. We want libs and moderates marginalized and ignored.

      I’m not at all surprised that you’re too stupid to understand the difference.

      • PopulistConservative

        Mbecker, don’t let the fact that you would be several times older than most of the participants make you feel stupid. Someone up above just said that we shouldn’t compromise with moderates just like we shouldn’t compromise with moderates and liberals just like we shouldn’t compromise with terrorists. And that’s not the only thing you have trouble reading. You have trouble reading the little “Be respectful, or be banned. No Profanity.” Just because you act like a raving lunatic and and an idiot, doesn’t mean everybody else is. Anyway, I’ve just spent my alloted time with idiots, so I’m done speaking with you.

        • mbecker908

          Stuff it.

          • PopulistConservative

            Getting worked up about you disobeying the clear posting rules of this site is like getting worked up about a Dem raising taxes, its just one of those things a person expects. And I apologize for stooping to your level, you may or may not be an idiot, you are a jerk, but its silly to get worked up over people being jerks on the internet, so I apologize for not being respectful.

          • aesthete

            n/t

          • janis

            .

          • PopulistConservative

            I call Mbecker an idiot after he calls me one, than repeatedly apologize, and I’m the one that’s condescending, not the person who called me a ” freaking idiot” and who worried about how dumb I was. We were both disrespectful and wrong, one of us apologised, but apparently if you’re not the right person making any kind of insult is the unforgivable sin on this blog.

  • PopulistConservative

    as Mbecker, how do you expect to marginalize and ignore the super majority in Congress and the White-House, planning on rebelling from the government?

    • NightTwister

      Perhaps, after many years of untold suffering, enough voters will get a clue. That is, if they’re still allowed to vote then.

    • Michael Dugas

      You berate one guy saying “He” should read the rules about being Respectful and then insult him about his intelligence yet through out
      this entire string you’ve been nothing but a rude jerk insulting people over and over.
      You tell one guy his opinion “…is so laughable” and then call him a
      “Rushbot” as if he has no thoughts of his own. Then you tell him his opinion is one only “a dumb idiot who is a raving lunatic would come up with.” Who needs to learn respect? You do sir. How about when you acted like you couldn’t understand why he didn’t understand why “…that?s something anybody with two brain cells ought to be able to figure out.” Or telling mbecker that I ‘m sure you can still register for a reading comprehension class” and then call him a raving lunatic and idiot.
      You call all kinds of people stupid and idiots then ask THEM to be respectful? You are the mentally deficient one here sir.
      You tell us all we have to work with the left, compromise with the left, seek the lefts assistance and bipartisanship yet you treat what are supposed to be your own party’s members like trash…..are you sure YOU aren’t McCain? You act like him,…no loyalty and you look down on fellow conservatives. You think the term populist in front of your name means something special? It means I kiss ass
      at every turn and can’t make the tough decisions cuz I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings…that’s a populist….follow the polls and kiss butt. No wonder your breathe stinks.

      PS: If I offended anyone OTHER than Populist Turd I am sorry but man people like him chap my hide. Wishy washy two bit %$@*&!^%

      • PopulistConservative

        I was simply stating that the idea that we should not compromise, or that we should be conducting a purge when we’re allready down to 40 Senate seats is idiotic. I apologize for saying that the people who think that would be idiots, as its possible to think an idiotic idea and not be an idiot. And to NT, Reagan compromised, as a matter of fact we’re still living with the nagative consequence of his compromise with judges, but I suppose it was the best he could do with a Dem senate.
        And as to my exchange with Mbecker he was being the typical jerk that he often is, and I don’t apologise for being honest that he’s a jerk. I do, and did apologise for the inapropiate insults I hurled at him, that was a lapse of kindness and respect on my part.

        • NightTwister

          So is your rhetoric. So Reagan compromised, and we’re suffering. You freely admit compromise is a bad thing. You completely negate your entire argument.

          I’m not surprised though. People like you stand for nothing. I don’t expect you’ll be standing by me either when necessary. You’ll have already turned and run, just like all the moderates and independents that said we needed to nominate someone in the middle that could work across the aisle. When election day came, they stayed home, or voted their guilt.

          • Diogenes314

            But no still less true.

            Are all the Kosmonauts this weak? Personally I always thought trolls were like cockroaches-either step on them or ignore them. Don’t try to reason with the little bugs.

          • NightTwister

            I’m just bored. There’s nothing good on TV.

        • Michael Dugas

          “I never called any person an idiot before Mbecker called me one .”

          Nice, that makes it all hunky dorey! I mean for sure now your not a lamer asking others to be respectful when you aren’t….it’s ALL ok because someone else did it first, murder, lieing, cheating
          no problem anymore, who needs values and morals now right.
          I mean it’s ALL been done before so that makes it ok now.

          Oh and by the way you were being rude LONG before mbecker
          got upset with you…..you were inciting as much discord as you could
          and you got a nibble…hell a bite even. But it was all you brother…
          swing batter batter swing.

          And saying you apologize for calling someone an idiot… that they were just having idiotic thoughts , is NOT an apology. But thats
          ok man…. don’t sweat it. We know where you stand now and as long as we don’t climb down there with you it’s all good.

          BTW the Republican party’s problems have been their lack of adherence to their own stated beliefs and not standing up for them.
          Bi-partisanship is the stuff of myth. And as of late our representative democracy is a myth because Washington sure isn’t doing what the people want. What we need to do IS get rid of those Republicans who aren’t republican and replace them with believers in our cause and our country. Professional politicians are a curse.

  • PopulistConservative

    Look, maybe you ought to follow the advice of Jesus when he says, Judge not. You won’t find anyone more against abortion than me, I have a strong belief in originalist judges, and a deep love for this country. I will live, and by God’s grace would die for my faith. I have many faults, not standing for anything is not one of them.
    “don?t expect you?ll be standing by me either when necessary. You?ll have already turned and run, just like all the moderates and independents that said we needed to nominate someone in the middle that could work across the aisle. When election day came, they stayed home, or voted their guilt.”
    Well, unless the dems nominate someone who’s good on judges and is pro-life, I think I’ll be with you on election day.

    • NightTwister

      …that wants the government to fix all the sinful woes of society using my money. The only difference between a populist and a liberal is which part of my life they want the government to control.

      I’m all for conservative government involvement in social issues where it benefits society, but I’m no more interested in a Theocracy than I am in a Dictatorship.

      Oh, and Reply to This is your friend.

      • PopulistConservative

        Does supporting originalist judges, and being pro-life , and being patriotic, mean being a theocrat to you? I would expect this kind abuse of the word theocracy from a liberal, but not from a conservative.

    • Michael Dugas

      Where did faith come into this? Abortion? Man you are on TILT big time. Whats wrong can’t respond to the statements made? You gotta jump off on some other tangent, change the subject, run away?
      Set Loose The HOUNDS!!!! I smell blood.

      I stand for nothing you say! Ha! Keep it coming. I AM a Conservastive brother…through and through. I stand for smaller government, strong defense, free and open markets, the right to bear arms, and the right to believe in a God of my choosing. I believe in the Constitution of the United States of America and I believe that judges should serve that constitution and uphold our laws not create them. And I believe that many of these base conservative beliefs are right for our country and that they shouldn’t be weakened with compromise but supported by politicians who believe in them and can share them with the people.
      You bring up Abortion, very emotional subject and one that you toss out there hoping to turn the attention away from you. Well let me tell you what legalized abortion is, it’s the result of compromise.
      It’s people LIKE you who have brought us to where we are.
      Also, about judgment, you were the one making judgments calling people idiots and the like, and then you wanna speak the name of Jesus and tell ME not to judge? You are truly LAUGHABLE sir.

      • PopulistConservative

        And responded with some of the things that I take my strongest stand for, this may be a tangent, but its not one I’ve started. As to calling people idiots I’ve already apologized. And I think its perfectly acceptable to call an idea idiotic or bad, as some ideas certainly are, but we should be repspectful of people and I wasn’t and I apologized- I’m sorry if that isn’t enough for you.

        • Michael Dugas

          Apology noted.

          But as far as Bi-partisanship and moderation and compromise these
          are the things that brought us abortion and activist judges , two of your issues. All of them suck. If you believe in conservatism than you believe in IT! You speak truth to IT, you live IT and you toss NONE of it aside to appease anyone else or you are not being faithful to your beliefs.

  • PopulistConservative

    if you mean I will probably never vote for president or congress someone who is pro-choice or supports non-originalist judges. But I thought you were for not compromising and standing up for principle. I do take other issues into consideration so in that way I am not a SIVV.

    • NightTwister

      …we need to welcome the fiscal moderates, but not the social moderates.

      So I have to ask (I know I’ll regret this), did you vote for McCain? If so, did you do so because he chose Palin as VP?

      Would you have voted for Romney if nominated? Giuliani?

      • Michael Dugas

        One minute he sounds like a Bob Barr supporter and the next a Giuliani supporter but then he tosses in this abortion thingy. Now he just sounds like Bush….yep a populist…..nasty description no?

      • PopulistConservative

        Well it depends on for what area you’re talking about, in NY, or CA it would be a wild dream true to have a social moderate as Senator, so I guess we should count our blessings. Even if they’re a social liberal, its probably good to have them if they’d be a vote for victory in the wars we fight. If they’re neither a DefCon, or a SoCon, I’d probably be hard pressed to support them, except for the fact that they’d be one more vote in congress. For President I wouldn’t see any reason to vote for a Someone who wasn’t at least either a Defcon or a SoCon.
        “So I have to ask (I know I?ll regret this), did you vote for McCain? If so, did you do so because he chose Palin as VP?”
        I voted for McCain twice ( but don’t get too upset I live in Nebraska so he’d already won). I would have voted for McCain without Palin, a pro-choice VP would have made me think twice but I probably would have still voted for him.

        “Would you have voted for Romney if nominated? Giuliani?”
        Romney, Definitey yes. Guiliani would have made me think twice, but the promise of good judges probably would have tipped me over.

        • Michael Dugas

          n/t

          • PopulistConservative

            NT.

          • NightTwister

            We know exactly why. Senators who ran as conservative but spent like liberals weren’t re-elected. No sense electing a Republican when they act just like a Democrat. Might as well have the real thing and let them fail. Then people will realize Democrat-Lite will no longer do.

            And list time I checked we have 41 (with one still undecided).

          • Michael Dugas

            We are down to 40 because we didn’t stick to our principles and conservative beliefs as a party. That is the truth.

  • Moe Lane

    Closing it now.

    Yes, I’m disappointed in all of you for it.