The Campaign To Bankrupt The Palin Family


From just September till now, Sarah Palin has accumulated a personal dept of over $500,000 in legal fees defending herself against fake/false/frivolous ethics charges. That’s Five Hundred Thousand Dollars.

A group of Alaska liberals, with the apparent cooperation of members of the Alaska Democratic Party have been filing ethics charge after ethics charge against Sarah Palin. The aim? Not to get her impeached and booted from office, because every single one of the charges are frivolous, baseless and even fairly deranged - one was even filed in the name of a soap opera character - but something far more personal.

These people want to bankrupt the Palins and leave them destitute. They want to empty their bank accounts so that they cannot afford the basics and necessities of life after Governor Palin leaves office.

With the exception of the partisan ethics complaint filed against Palin because her husband (a private citizen) made it clear (as was his right) that he didn’t think a policeman (now a hero to liberals) who used a taser on a ten year old child should continue to keep his gun and badge, all of these ethics charges were filed after John McCain tapped her to be his Vice-President.

David Bonoir, as the House Democratic Whip pioneered this tactic in the mid-1990s after the Gingrich Revolution swept Republicans to their first Majority in forty years. Immediately after Congress resumed, Bonoir began filing ethics complaints - frivolous, partisan complaints that even Democratic members of the ethics committee mostly laughed away - against Newt Gingrich on a weekly basis, week after week like clockwork and sending out press releases to friendly press outlets. It was a despicable tactic, but Republicans and Newt dismissed it as a desperate loser antic and ended up being blindsided when liberal talking heads began to use the talking point of Newt being the Speaker with the most ethics complaints filed against him … ever.

But at least, Bonoir’s aim was political, and politics ain’t beanbag, after all.

These people’s aim is most assuredly not political. Frivolous charge-filers Andree McLeod, Zane Henning, Linda Kellen Biegel, etc. are affiliated with a group of liberals (how many on the “Journolist”, I wonder?) who went to Palin’s hometown of Wasilla immediately after she was tapped for the VP spot and dubbed themselves the “Wasilla Project” with the sole purpose of ensuring any and all manner of slander, innuendo and libel against Palin was publicized on YouTube and from there would hopefully make it into the mainstream media. Henning (who claims to be a “conservative”) and McLeod (who is a “registered Republican”) feature prominently in their videos in “interviews” repeating the Alaska Democratic Party’s campaign talking points on Palin on cue.

McLeod, Henning, Biegel and others like them have discovered, however, that no matter how frivolous their charges, no matter how far-fetched, no matter how bone-headed stupid, the Governor would still have to legally defend herself against them - meaning she’ll have to pay attorney fees as she goes before the Personnel Board. And so they have gotten down to business, and like David Bonoir against Gingrich, they’ve been filing ethics complaint after ethics complaint against Governor Palin, but this time with her bankruptcy in mind.

Palin is now owing the law firm she has been forced to retain to answer this storm of ethics charges over half a million dollars since September - and note that her annual salary as Governor of Alaska is only $125,000 with Todd Palin making about $86,000 as both a fisherman and an oil worker - with more of these suits and ethics charges being promised by these bottom feeders and others like them.

After bearing with these attacks, Palin finally let the situation be known when she filed her annual financial disclosure forms with the Alaska Public Offices Commission this week, writing to the Anchorage Daily News;

I must defend against these baseless ethics accusations out of my own pocket as the use of public monies to do so could itself violate state law …

… obviously we cannot afford to personally pay these bills - and really no future governor should feel the sense of financial vulnerability at the hands of those with a political vendetta bent on personal destruction …

Some have suggested a legal fund to pay these bills. We’ll have to pursue that.

And if she does pursue that, I doubt she’d have any problem paying off any legal fees for the next twenty years.

But it’s the fact that she has to consider doing this to keep her and her husband’s life savings - a man and woman with minor children at home - from disappearing altogether that should sicken all of us - I don’t know about any of you, but I’m literally shaking with rage here.

This is the politics of personal destruction at its most reprehensible … and these people need to have their names made public and turned to mud in Alaska and all over America. They need to have themselves mired in court and forced to pay hundreds upon hundreds of thousands in attorney’s fees defending themselves against charges of depriving the people of Alaska of the services of their governor because of nothing more than hate.

I knew the Left’s tactics were ugly, but this … this is beyond wrong, this is pure evil.

H/T: Jim Geraghty (CampaignSpot), Videmus Omnia (Conservatives4Palin) …

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Be a real shame if this ended up on Rush tomorrow.

Moe Lane Tuesday, March 24th at 5:30PM EDT (link)

With all due respect Moe, forget Rush

Section9 Tuesday, March 24th at 7:38PM EDT (link)

You know Mark Levin. You need to call him. Sarah needs the best. You have been around Washington a long time. You’re no fool.

This is being organized from Washington, and both of us know it. I will bet dimes, dollars, to doughnuts that the DNC and the WH used the Bonior template when they went after Palin right after she secured the nomination from McCain.

The point is, they would have gone after Jindal, or anyone else who had been the VP nominee!

Sarah is a stand-up gal who is a natural, but she comes from the Middle Class and has those values. It strikes me that she can’t quite conceive of someone so evil that they would actually want to bankrupt a couple with five children, one of whom is a special needs child. But there you have it.

You need to make that phone call. Sarah needs the best.

“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill

with all due respect, these new "conservative" Rush bashers

Doc Holliday Wednesday, March 25th at 12:28AM EDT (link)

are just wrong. I don’t mean wrong in some nuanced diatribe way, I mean in a mathmatical way. Mark Levin is great, hell he is called “The Great One”. But if you look at any numbers, Levin does not even come close to reaching the number of people Rush does. Mark levin is called the The Great One out of respect. Heck, in many ways he doesn’t even try to raise his profile. For example, his site is not a pay site.

But saying Levin should get on this IN PLACE OF RUSH is so wrong I am tempted to use derogatory words. I also wonder what agenda one might have by saying Rush is not needed. Is that you Mr. Gibbs?

Molon Labe!

Doc I think he was referring to the fact that Levin

kyle8 Wednesday, March 25th at 8:35AM EDT (link)

is an attorney who often champions conservatives who have been attacked by liberals. That is what he meant by “the best”.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

 

Why not both

dmartin Wednesday, March 25th at 8:41AM EDT (link)

Limbaugh has the audience, Levin has the law degree. Teamwork fellas, teamwork!!!

 

What was Said Below

Section9 Wednesday, March 25th at 9:04AM EDT (link)

Please. I have no brief against Rush. But someone like Levin is the one with the Talent.

Rush does have the megaphone. I don’t deny that at all.

“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill

ok section9 I get it now, no worries

Doc Holliday Friday, March 27th at 12:06AM EDT (link)

I have just been touchy about Rush lately since we know the left is trying to marginalize him and split him from the “acceptable” conservative opposition. Certainly Levin is not acceptable to them, that is why I like him :)

Molon Labe!

 
 
 
 
 

You know, that's the problem with today.

skicougar Tuesday, March 24th at 5:32PM EDT (link)

30 years ago, in a state like Alaska; if someone tried this; there’d be a few good old friends of the gov who would seek these guys out and proceed to get in fights with them until they left her alone.

Now, with all the legal stuff; you just have to sit there and take it.

If there was another option better, or equal to the US circa 1970; i’d be looking to move.

Eat ‘em up Houston Cougars !

is that Alaska gone? I would love to think

Doc Holliday Wednesday, March 25th at 12:35AM EDT (link)

is is still the last frontier where people don’t bother others. BTW, what if she just ignores these suits? Why doesn’t she put forward some laws that those that push frivolous suits must pay back double the court costs of all sides. I think she should ingore this stuff, but if that is not feasible, we need to get her back.

I am not saying we should send her cash, that would just feed the beast. We need to sue these people or find some other way to defend her. The left has endless money with the likes of Soros, hell they even have the Chinese. We need to change our country to end this type of feces.

Molon Labe!

 
 

Remember Hillary's vast right wing conspiracy?

panchita Tuesday, March 24th at 5:34PM EDT (link)

Whats going on now puts it to shame. Sarah is one tough lady folks. Clawing her way through that pit of vipers will only serve to toughen her up.

 

Curious how Achance see's this disgusting display!..nt

JadedByPolitics Tuesday, March 24th at 5:39PM EDT (link)

..

Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy

From your fingertips to my screen. See below;

Achance Tuesday, March 24th at 6:06PM EDT (link)

you probably won’t like it.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

No wonder she wound up talking about this sort of thing

janis Tuesday, March 24th at 5:39PM EDT (link)

at the Alaska Lincoln Day Dinner. AKSteveB mentioned this part of her speech and wondered why she was going on about it. Wonder no more as anyone forced to defend themselves against false and stupid charges repeatedly would certainly be filled with resentment at the unfairness of it.

Any way that we can start digging into the lives and finances and such of the ones doing this? Perhaps they can start spending their own money defending themselves on similar nuisance suits? I have no doubt that people such as this have all kinds of shady dealings in their personal and whatever passes for professional lives.

Janis yeah, I think everyone there

AKSteveB Tuesday, March 24th at 7:53PM EDT (link)

knew she was going to set up a Defense Fund, she had hinted that we “would be hearing things from APOC next week.” My issue with that is it was the wrong time and place to get on that riff. It was a not very veiled shot at some of the people in the room. It was too bad because she really got off to an impressive start. I’ll also admit it is blatantly sexist and unfair, but reality is, a woman even moreso than a man puts her credibility on the line when she does a “woe is me” thing. I just don’t get where she is going with all of this. She’s got enough fans out there that she could raise half a million in defense fees in the time I typed this.

Hell is other people - Sartre

In fact, I understand that SarahPAC....

Section9 Tuesday, March 24th at 8:16PM EDT (link)

…..is going like gangbusters. How and ever, I saw the YouTube of the speech, and in general, it was pretty well-received.

I suspect that in about six months the good ship Palin will be righted. Right now, you still see a lot of Amateur Night stuff, primarily because of her continued association with people from Wasilla who have no experience on the national stage. Once someone like Roger Stone or Rove comes in and sets up her statewide Re-Elect (in reality, the beginnings of her National Presidential) Campaign effort, the hangers-on from Down Home are going to get the boot.

Some wiseacre was making robocalls in Iowa on her behalf, if you can believe it. I suspect Axelrod, trying to cause trouble.

“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill

 
 
 

What to do?

Dencal26 Tuesday, March 24th at 5:40PM EDT (link)

Is there something we can do to help other than the obvious donation. Can we harrass these people with lawsuits or something?

 

Can anyone say...

youthgrunt Tuesday, March 24th at 5:45PM EDT (link)

“loser pays”?

How many problems would that fix?

 

Welcome to the Big Leagues.

Achance Tuesday, March 24th at 5:56PM EDT (link)

All it takes to file an Ethics Act Complaint, a Whistle Blower Complaint, a lawsuit, an EEO complaint, a union grievance, and all the other stuff like that is a piece of paper and a decent vocabulary or a lawyer trying to score political points. If you’re in government and HAVEN’T had them filed against you, you must not have been doing your job, especially if you’re a Republican. I used to keep a pretty good collection of them on my office wall. I was so proud of a couple of them that I had them framed.

That said, she brought a lot of it, most of it actually, on herself. When the Moneghan/Wooten/Troopergate thing first broke, she said she was as pure as the driven snow and welcomed any inquiry. Well, that didn’t last long and before it was over she was using every strategem in the book to keep the wraps on it. None of them were illegal and I might have done some, even most, of them myself, but I wouldn’t have gotten myself into the mess to begin with. And I wouldn’t have let a governor I worked for get into it either.

She and her insiders used their Blackberries like a bunch of Ninth Grade girls and said some “indiscrete” things. When the Public Records Act requests for her email first came in, again she said she was pure as the driven snow. She wasn’t; nobody is and she even had her AG write a new (and very stupid) formal opinion trying to protect some of her emails. She’s still fighting giving that stuff up, but she’s going to lose, her AG’s Opinion is going to be over-ruled by the Courts, and it is going to once again embarrass her.

OK, she’ll get a legal defense fund and the lawyers will get paid. I know this game and how they bill stuff like this, so an amount will be discretely agreed to. Along the way, she needs to learn that anything you do as a public officer will become the public’s business and you can run but you can’t hide. Even if you’re innocent, which she mostly is, running makes you look guilty. She’s done a good job of looking guilty.

And, just for the record, sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander; her administration isn’t reticent to threaten people with Ethics Act charges, especially if you were in the Murkowski Administration. In 2007, I took a contract to represent a State employee group in trying to force the State to bargain some aspects of retirement benefits. The issue had nothing to do with her administration, it was a Murkowski initiative with which I disagreed but which was not in my portfolio when I was there. Since I’m well aware of who my enemies are, some of them even visit me here, I was very careful to make sure I was within the Ethics Act before I took the contract. But sure enough, the State is a one trick pony even in the Palin Administration. The very week that the Labor Board found probable cause that the State had violated the bargaining law, I got a very long, detailed and threatening letter from the Attorney General about the Ethics Act. I’m not your everyday patsy, so I responded with a very long, detailed, and threatening letter about all the Ethics Act issues I’d like to discuss under oath in a public forum. Never heard from them again but it’s par for the course that they like to dish it out but they don’t like to take it. And, frankly, I don’t care who’s governor, the State will pay for threatening me for as long as anybody associated with it is there and I can draw breath.

In Vino Veritas

Big Leagues? Yeah right....

lonebeagle Tuesday, March 24th at 6:24PM EDT (link)

As if anything in Alaska is the “Big Leagues”.

What you have is a classic example of provincial BS from a bunch of malcontents.

The crap that Sarah Palin is eliciting from her opponents is in direct proportion to the threat she poses to the status quo “Republicans” of Alaska, ALL Democrats and liberals, and to the good ole boys who she trounced up in Alaska.

Don’t worry, Palin is a very smart, capable and tough person. Something that most people here are not.

Obviously she's "big league" enough for you to be slobbering.

Achance Tuesday, March 24th at 6:35PM EDT (link)

I don’t even think she’s big league enough to be governor of my state, but enjoy your love affair.

In Vino Veritas

And you are???.....

lonebeagle Tuesday, March 24th at 8:04PM EDT (link)

someone important? Are you a potential presidential candidate in 2012?

Oh, that’s right, you’re someone from Alaska with a big chip on your shoulder.

Man, Sarah gets to feminists and men who hate smart, independent women.

Love affair? That’s what you think when you look in the mirror.

Achance is a veteran of the Alaska Government

Oz Tuesday, March 24th at 9:06PM EDT (link)

And frankly along with Francis C is probably the sanest, most respected voice on all of redstate.

I applaud you sticking up for Sarah, but Achance knows of what he speaks.

He’s been there, done that and is not afraid to call out the flaws of Republicans when that’s the truth.

that is your opinion sir

Doc Holliday Wednesday, March 25th at 12:50AM EDT (link)

this is not a popularity contest. I am sure Achance would win a popularity contest with me, I mean, the man is just so lucid. But the thing with freedom of speech is we are not going to have complete agreement. I agree with Lone, and would pick him as more sane at this point. Did you not read where Achance said he does not care who is governor that the state of Alaska “will pay as long as I draw breath”?

Molon Labe!

 
 

Well, lonebeagle, you political genius,

Achance Tuesday, March 24th at 10:07PM EDT (link)

I actually know her, spent Monday mornings in staff meetings with her.

She’s a candidate for President because a very stupid and desperate man made a desperate decision. He was looking at nobodys for VP, so he chose the nobody from nowhere.

She’s a small town mayor who took advantage of the meltdown of the AK Republcian Party. She took advantage of being the Democrats and the Anchorage Daily News’ favorite Republcan. She got lucky.

So, my State just gave a half-assed Canadian company a half-billion dollars to think about building a vaporware pipeline. My State just passed a tax regime that has every oil producer running for some sane country like Russia.

Talk to me about those policy issues and then I might think you’re something other than another idotic sycophant.

In Vino Veritas

You're an Alaskan Govt Official?!

lonebeagle Tuesday, March 24th at 11:46PM EDT (link)

That explains everything. In other words, you’re a tired old white guy of the good ole boys club. You’re the type of guy that’s running our party into the ground.

Seems that around where I’m from (California), I saw lots of people who came out and donated money and significant time to John McCain’s campaign even though NOBODY liked him.

I guess that all of us that pounded the pavement campaigning in Nevada for McCain were just idiots and “Sarah Synchophants”. Wow, you must be the smartest man in the world–or the dumbest man from a backwater state.

Tell you what I’m going to do. When the next email comes from Mr. Steele asking for a donation, I’m going to say “No” because I’m an idiot who can’t see that Sarah Palin is just a “small town mayor” from Alaska who has nice legs.

People like you are going to save me lots of money since I only gave to a political campaign for the first time in my life because of Sarah Palin. Without Palin John McCain was just a washed up moderate. And please don’t give me any crap about his “war service”–my dad did far more than he did in World War II fighting in the infantry.

Like I said, the Republicans are losers because we have a bunch of idiots like you.

Tired Old White Guy,

mbauer Wednesday, March 25th at 8:34AM EDT (link)

the least hip thing to be. If I were to run for office, I’d honestly see being an old white male as a disadvantage these days. Thanks for being one of the sheep who stereotype old white guys as out of touch.

If you’ve spent any time on this site over the last few months, you know that Achance has more insite than most- and frankly- won’t b.s. you. His bluntness and knowledge are what make him a great contributor to this site. If either of those attribute anger you- please grow up and spare us the hissy fit about who you’ll donate to.

I have as much reason to want to like Sarah Palin as anyone. I think she could be terrific from what I see. But remeber, a lot of us thought Bush would be terrific to in 2000.

No mbauer Achance does not have more insight...

JadedByPolitics Wednesday, March 25th at 9:00AM EDT (link)

what he has is an INTENSE dislike for Mrs Palin and her BRAND of Rebublicanism because he is the OLD SCHOOL in AK politics and she TOOK it to them and created chaos for Achance and his buddies.

His obvious contempt for Gov Palin has been on display since the moment John the Moderate McCain picked her for his VP. He would love to see her destroyed and in such this is a joy for him!

Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy

No, jaded, it goes back a lot further than that.

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 12:39PM EDT (link)

It goes back to her hissy fit when she was with AOGCC and her kiss and tell departure from the Administration. An AOGCC Commissioner’s slot at the time was the sweetest patronage appointment in State government, lots of money, lots of travel, lots of elbow-rubbing in Houston, New York, even London, and no real job except to go to meetings and sign something once in a while. I know what happened with her self-styled outing of Randy Ruedrich and it isn’t what she has all her supporters out there believing.

In politics, you dance with who brung you. She is the black widow of Alaska politics who has built her career on the dead bodies of everybody who ever helped her. You guys all like her and I was really hoping she and McCain would win because I’d much rather she be in DC than here.

In Vino Veritas

Not the same job description - she would have been great as a VP

civil_truth Wednesday, March 25th at 12:55PM EDT (link)

Her skills would have found a good vessel. Moreover, Vice President of the US is probably the federal elected office for which one has the least need of a loyal cadre of political operatives.

Though being able to function effectively as a VP under a President like John McCain while keeping faith with the conservative who voted for her would have likely required magician skills (and/or Houdini skills) that I doubt she has. Now if Hillary had been McCain’s VP…

 
 
 
 
 

Achance, Sarah Palin was McCain's Choice...

Section9 Wednesday, March 25th at 9:09AM EDT (link)

…because Condi Rice turned him down. Even Rice understood how bad a candidate he was, and Rice didn’t want to end her years of government service as a failed Second Banana. Even you have to admit that Palin was the only thing that brought some sparkle to that ticket.

Palin, to us down here, is all about potential. That said, if she screws up the pipeline project, she’s going to be political toast. It’s her signature deal, and if she doesn’t get that done, she’s done.

“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill

Not quite fair

Finrod Wednesday, March 25th at 11:15AM EDT (link)

I’m not one to defend McCain, but Condi didn’t turn him down in particular– I don’t think she would have accepted VP from anyone. From what I’ve read, she doesn’t like the idea of campaigning (and who can blame her?), which is why she didn’t run for President herself in the first place.


Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Does the law allow the court to award fees for filings it deems frivolous?

civil_truth Tuesday, March 24th at 6:25PM EDT (link)

(And would the court do so if it could, or would politics intervene?)

If such a frivolous filing provision were in place, that might reduce the volume of actions by taking out the bit players who don’t have enought stuff to surmount that threshold.

As for the rest, I agree that Sarah needs to learn prophylaxis regarding her behavior as a public official in order to cut off the streams that feed this lake of ethics filings. Hopefully she will get the right advisors on this.

Even if Sarah comes up with a legal defense fund, that’s still opportunity cost for her future political campaigns. Prevention is much better.

Almost none of this stuff is in court.

Achance Tuesday, March 24th at 6:33PM EDT (link)

I think only the email requests are actually in court. The courts do have some provision for recovering costs; boy do the Greenies hate that one! There is no such provision for administrative tribunals such as the P-board which hears Ethics Act matters.

It NEVER should have happened, and she brought it on herself. That prevention thing and all. Having some competent people around you, listening to them, and having them not be afraid to give you advice are all good attributes for an executive.

In Vino Veritas

"It NEVER should have happened, and she brought it on herself."

Tbone Tuesday, March 24th at 6:56PM EDT (link)

Really?

You are such a putz.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

And you're still an effin' idiot. nt

Achance Tuesday, March 24th at 7:03PM EDT (link)

In Vino Veritas

And you have Palin Derangement Syndrome

Tbone Tuesday, March 24th at 7:09PM EDT (link)

that causes you to make a fool of yourself and a joke of your comments.

I’m sure that all your crooked Alaska Republican cronies getting runoff was a major factor in creating your condition. LOL

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

You got the hots for her or what, Tbone?

Achance Tuesday, March 24th at 7:15PM EDT (link)

You don’t know a damned thing about Alaska politics or what she’s done or not except what you learned from a press release from either her or the McCain so-called campaign. Now when you have some facts about what she might have actually done and just who she “took on” and why, come back and write a diary. There’s lots of Sarah Sycophants who could learn something.

She got lucky and found a spot where there really wasn’t any effective organization. She got to take advantage of McCain’s desperation. Remember, I wrote a comment here just before she was selected in which I said something like, “if he’s going to pick a nobody, he might as well pick a nobody from nowhere, at least she’s a woman.” She’s real good at being in the right place at the right time and even better at self promotion. It remains to be seen whether she’s good at running a government. Right now, my observation is that she’s not. That said, I’d still vote for her over BHO, but I’d have to hold my nose.

In Vino Veritas

Everclear or Vodka?

SteveLA Tuesday, March 24th at 7:26PM EDT (link)

Art….

Just figure out what the best mixer goes best with the flavor aid, mix yourself up a big pitcher and sip away.

Happy Hour!

______________________________________

Competency over ideological purity

 

I've got the hots for her

Jack_Savage Tuesday, March 24th at 7:30PM EDT (link)

I’ll admit it. She screwed up my marriage for a day or to as well. So there.

 

Chance, she's a politician for God's sake!

Section9 Tuesday, March 24th at 7:51PM EDT (link)

Her husband screwed up and she tried to cover for him. Fact is, she was mostly innocent in the affair. However, it had no business making the national news, and you must admit, the Obama people paid off Hollis French nicely, didn’t they?

She’ll get competent lawyers to defend and countersue. What she needs is top-shelf Republican help, and she can’t get that until SarahPAC has the money to pay someone like Ken Kachagian, Eddie Mahe, or Karl Rove their going rate. Right now, she’s still using the Local Help, and that won’t cut it against the likes of Axelrod and Plouffe.

Shouldn’t be long, though. Rumor has it that SarahPAC is pulling in the kind of small donations that are actually impacting the NRCC.

Point is, Palin will only improve as a politician. She is what I call a “natural”. The good politicians are always good at being in the right place at the right time. They are also very good at self-promotion. Bill Clinton was a master at that. Don’t put it down as if it’s nothing.

“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill

Section9, I don't really disagree except on one

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 4:14AM EDT (link)

point. The “local help” is pretty good but she doesn’t ask usually and rarely listens when she does ask. Like GWB, she values loyalty far above ability and she trusts some people who, frankly, couldn’t pour pee out of a boot with the instructions on the heel. She has also kept a bunch of holdovers around who don’t always give her the best advice. When she came in, she didn’t fire all the Knowles holdovers that Murkowski had left in, she went on a search and destroy mission against Murkowski appointees, the only Republicans in the government.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

blah blah blah

lonebeagle Tuesday, March 24th at 8:07PM EDT (link)

“You don’t know anything about Alaska…”

“She got lucky….”

Did it ever occur to you that Alaska (and yourself) don’t get to define Sarah Palin?

The adults in the rest of the country can think for themselves.

 

"Now when you have some facts about what she might have actually done and just who she “took on” and why, come back and write a diary."

Tbone Tuesday, March 24th at 9:32PM EDT (link)

I could care less about Alaska politics and certainly as filtered through a washedout ex-midlevel bureaucrat of questionable associations.

I see pure, raw political talent and charisma with the IQ points to drive it. I like that and the Republicans have so little of it.

So drivel and snivel about your potholes. We all know she put your butt on street and you that’s why when you see her name you start yapping like a little fart dog when the doorbell rings.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

Tbone, lets put you in drag, I'm sure you'd be cute,

Achance Tuesday, March 24th at 9:56PM EDT (link)

and then we can have some speechwriters write some stuf to make Republicans’ legs tingle. You’re just looking at a thing produced for mass consumption and you’ve fallen in love with it. It ain’t real, and even if it was, it ain’t giving it up for you.

She’s a lousy governor who really doesn’t have a clue how to do anything but be cute. The lefies are much nastier about her that human decency dictates, but they’re fundamentally right. She reached her peak as Mayor of Wasilla.

In Vino Veritas

No way that happens to TBone

Jack_Savage Tuesday, March 24th at 10:04PM EDT (link)

That homophobe Scalia has too many votes.

 

I bet I would be cute in drag, because I'm pretty cute

Tbone Tuesday, March 24th at 10:19PM EDT (link)

in anything. LOL

I think she reached her peak as a Vice Presidential nominee. So far.

A lousy governor? If you mean that because she isn’t a two bit crook like your buddy with no room for you at the trough, makes her a lousy governor, I can see from whince you come.

Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.

 
 

Now this I do agree with

Jack_Savage Tuesday, March 24th at 10:16PM EDT (link)

“I see pure, raw political talent and charisma with the IQ points to drive it. I like that and the Republicans have so little of it.”

I’ll concede that she is definitely a work in progress, but she has “it”. And you either do, or you don’t. I’ll contribute to her defense fund, and would love to see her gut her opponents like a dead salmon.

 
 
 

TBone, this is starting to feel like

AKSteveB Tuesday, March 24th at 7:44PM EDT (link)

one of those cult deprogramming things. I’m not a Republican insider up here, up until a couple of weeks ago, I wasn’t even a Republican outsider.

At this point in time, I have two big issues with our Governor.

One, she is screwing the pooch, royally, on the project that IS the future up here, the Natural Gas pipeline. TAPS is at about one third capacity at this point. Though I tend to think the oil patch cries in their beer too much, at this rate ..within the next decade there will not be enough oil to keep the pipeline running. The Governor has put together an Amateurish team At DOE that has as much credibility in energy as Obama has in economics.

Two, I actually DO understand some of the appeal she has out there. She has that intangible *it* that I think one is born with or not. The problem is, that she just has no boundary between her personal life and her political life. Yeah, every politician (probably every person) worth a damn has an enemies list. The savvy ones know when to let surrogates do the dirty work, and when to not cut your nose to spite your face. Gov. Palin is spending the vast majority of her energy, time, and political capital settling personal scores. We can go back and forth on who is to blame, but the bottom line is she is continuing to make it difficult for the Republican Party to get its act together up here.

Hell is other people - Sartre

The Pipeline Just Got Started, fer Chrissakes

Section9 Tuesday, March 24th at 8:07PM EDT (link)

It will take ten years to construct. A lot of toes got stepped on by the award of the contract to Trans-Canada. However, I’d be willing to ask you for more proof as to the “amateurishness” of the DOE team that’s supervising the pipeline. That’s her signature project. That can’t fail.

As to the personal stuff, I don’t believe she’s actually spending most of her time settling scores. That’s hyperbole. I do believe she can be vindictive when she wants to be and has a long memory. I believe she’s much rather promote substanttive achievement instead of ethics controversy. However, she remains popular in Alaska, leading one to believe that it is the Party itself with most of the issues, and not Palin.

“History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it”-Winston Churchill

We're responsible for ourselves...

shirk Tuesday, March 24th at 9:55PM EDT (link)

The republicans in Alaska are responsible for getting themselves together, not Gov. Palin. It really is time for us to take personal responsibility in Alaska for what happens here. Gov. Palin was the first governor that I remember to really invite the public into discussions about the gas line, energy, and now the stimulus. I respect Achance’s opinion, although I don’t know him, but not all Alaskans agree with his position. To say that it is the Governor’s fault that others are filing frivolous suits is like saying that getting hit by a drunk driver is your own fault. While there may be situations one would want to stay out of, the evil is done by the drunk driver, not the victim. As for Gov. Palin just getting lucky: the saying goes, luck is just opportunity meeting preparation, no more. I hope I will be as prepared as she to take opportunities to increase every Alaskan’s stake in our future and openness in the political process.

Shirk I guess it is that glass half empty

AKSteveB Tuesday, March 24th at 10:51PM EDT (link)

half full thing. Achance knows the inside baseball real well, and when someone isn’t trying to smack him, he is really good at getting outside of his own space and explaining things objectively. I’m an outsider and don’t have a stake in any of the “old boys”, Andrew Halcro is more my speed.

I’ve found most of the “transparency” she’s promised has been nonsense. Like many things, she threw that out there before actually understanding how an executive has to work. In terms of discussions about the gasline, that was a rigged process from the get go. It was designed for Warren Bufffet’s operation Mid America. When they realized they ware dealing with yahoos and pulled out of the AGIA bidding the only one left was Trans Canada, who to this point still doesn’t even have a real presence in the State let alone anything moving towards a build. In terms of the stimulus, she managed to take something that was always going to be smoke and mirrors (the leg was not going to turn the money down) and made a circus out of it by saying one thing one day, the opposite the next day, without even warning her supporters, let alone her detractors.

Of course you are right about Alaska Republicans. One reason I had stayed on the fence since I moved up here was the fact the AK Repub Party seemed like a mess. Obama of course was a hell of a wakeup call that for better or worse, anyone with an ounce of respect for capitalism and/or American exceptionalism better get off the dime. No, it is not just the Governor’s fault that the party is in disarray, but she isn’t making things any better with the passive aggressive stuff. I’m not as quick as Art to dismiss her over the long haul. I’ve seen some moments where you can see the potential, but this has all been, too far, too fast.

I think the overall

Hell is other people - Sartre

 

Shirk, it is real simple:

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 3:53AM EDT (link)

The email thing is beyond stupid. She should have known better, but, worse, people around her should have known better. State policy on email, internet, phone use, etc. has been the same since the mid-Nineties; it’s the State’s equipment, you have no expectation of privacy, you are enttiled to de minimis personal use, anything you do on State equipment is public record. During my time with the State, I probably averaged firing one employee a month for violating that policy. The State was so methodical and consistent about it, that the unions normally didn’t even grieve the discipline or dismissal.

If she wanted to avoid the expense associated with the email case, all she had to do was face reality and give up the emails. Yeah, there’s some stuff in there that she probably would prefer not to have public; there are no secrets, lots of people have seen some of it, but there is no way to avoid it. She is going to give it up unless she wants to provoke God’s own separation of powers incident when the SC tells her to give it up. I don’t know if it was Admin Commissioner Kreitzer or one of the brain surgeons that work for her who came up with the idea of getting the new AG’s opinion on personal use, but it will get thrown out by the first judge that looks at it and justifiably so. If one is a public officer in Alaska, one simply has to accept that everything you do on State time or using State resources of any kind is a public record. She, or somebody (ies) working for her, seems to think there is some space in there that is all hers and which she can keep private; don’t work that way.

I’ve dealt with the Tpr. Wooten thing ad nauseum; it happened on my watch though Public Safety kept it from me. Public Safety management bet wrong. In the summer of ‘06 they were worried that Knowles would win and thought they needed union friends, so they settled with the union and reduced Wooten’s discipline. Thank God my successor’s name is on that rather than mine. Full disclosure: I’d have probably done it too but just to avoid the arbitration, not to curry favor - I didn’t need that.

She shot her mouth off about inviting an investigation before she did one of her own. It quickly became apparent that people close to her were not as pure as the driven snow and she had to either give them up or start backtracking; she made the wrong choice. Once it became apparent that some people close to her had been involved in the matter, she should have kicked them to the curb. Since one of them was her husband, she should have disavowed what he did and promised the people she and he would be good in the future. But, NO!, she has to try to tough it out. End result: Elton’s Kangaroo Court was wrong in stretching the law to try to find something to hang on her and Todd AND the P-Board was wrong in pronouncing her guiltless. Nobody with any knowledge of the matter is satisfied with either result.

You really can’t be cute and coy as a pubic official in this State, especially if you’re a Republican. She has tried throughout this to be cute and coy and it has never worked and will never work. If you hold elected or appointed office in Alaska, your life is an open book and sooner or later the People will get to read that book. Trying to change that just frustrates you and irritates them.

As to the Elton thing; Kertulla dissed Palin, so Palin is going to make Kertulla pay. I don’t have a problem with it. It means JNU won’t have a Senator for awhile, but we haven’t had one in any meaningful sense for years anyway, so who cares?

In Vino Veritas

 
 

Section9 there just is no pipeline.

AKSteveB Tuesday, March 24th at 10:59PM EDT (link)

There are two competing projects, such as they are. One is Trans Canada. To this point they have next to no presence in the state and no visible signs of progress towards “open season” (that is when shippers bid for space in the pipeline, it is scheduled for next year). The other is called “Denali.” That is a combination of BP and Conoco Phillips. Of course it is hard to know how much is real and how much is for show, but they do have a lot of people up here working on it.

Hell is other people - Sartre

Oh, TC has a visible presence alright;

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 4:01AM EDT (link)

they have a very visible half a billion dollars of our money that they don’t have to do a damned thing for. Yeah, that is an Alaska Gas Incentive Act alright. One day somebody is going to actually examine the relationship between her DNR darlings, the ones she resurrected after they quit/were fired from the Murkowske Administration, and TransCanada.

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

While I don't disagree with your "big league" summation.

Steph C Tuesday, March 24th at 7:15PM EDT (link)

I still think it’s reprehensible and why we’re overdue for a revolution. And why I’m really sick of politicians, regardless of their party affiliation, although I do have to say liberals are the worst of the lot.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

my advice is to start following people such as Caleb

Doc Holliday Wednesday, March 25th at 12:58AM EDT (link)

over other “well regarded” experts at RS.

Molon Labe!

5*5*5 nt

Steph C Wednesday, March 25th at 8:49AM EDT (link)

.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

 
 
 

But do you think she can learn?

hrh40 Tuesday, March 24th at 8:08PM EDT (link)

Thanks for your inside AK info, Art.

I get your criticisms, but I’m wondering if you think she’s a good learner? For example, having good people around her to advise her. Do you think she is finding good people now? Or will in future? Do you think she’s continuing to grow into governing?

Although I think I must disagree that she is spending all her time on personal stuff. I’m astounded at all the press releases, letters to the Feds, letters to Congress, board announcements, bills, budgets, press conferences, governor appearances, etc., that I see. At least from Outside, she looks very busy with State business.

And now she’s going through an interview process for the Elton replacement appointment when she could’ve saved herself the time and just gone with the Dems’ Kertulla. BTW, what do you think about that?

Or is that one of those things you think she’s doing just to settle personal scores?

It seems reasonable to me to interview people who are interested and qualified. One of the papers said that some Juneau Dems approached her after the Kertulla recommendation, and that’s what led her to open it up to other Dems and do the application process …

Oh, the synapses fire quickly, no doubt.

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 4:36AM EDT (link)

She’s clever and has a lot of native political cunning. She doesn’t attend to detail worth a damn, something that doesn’t distinguish her among elected officials. The problem is, she doesn’t take well to people who do attend to detail and might say to her, “whither goest thou?”

The path to retirement as a political appointee is to never tell an elected official anything they don’t want to hear. She’s surrounded herself with people like that. You be the judge.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

wow, government bureaucrat and lawyer

Doc Holliday Wednesday, March 25th at 12:45AM EDT (link)

I am just so greatful to have a curmudgeon (aaron gardner’s word) like you helping us out. I am surprised we have not locked horns until last week. I don’t want this to go farther, so I will likely just ignore your posts, but count me among those who do not feel as blessed by your presence as some others.

This is not personal, this is about content. You are probably a good guy, but I need the great insight of another bureaucrat lawyer like I need to listen to another Obama presser.

Molon Labe!

Lessons Learned

OccamsRazor Wednesday, March 25th at 1:04AM EDT (link)

Seeds Sown, and Philosphies fine tuned.

Now shake hands and make up, Dumbasses.

Irony

OccamsRazor Wednesday, March 25th at 1:11AM EDT (link)

I name call everybody on this thread a ‘dumb’butt, and I couldn’t ‘reply to this’ properly. :)

The above declaration was intended for everybody in this thread.

Bigger picture, all. Bigger picture.

 
 

My Mama went to her grave thinking I was a piano player in a whorehouse,

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 4:40AM EDT (link)

and now you accuse me of being a lawyer. I’m not, but I used to have a bunch of them working for me.

In Vino Veritas

always with the curriculum vitae achance

Doc Holliday Wednesday, March 25th at 5:42AM EDT (link)

Hell I worked in the actual Capitol Building for the Repub leadership, big whoop. I don’t talk about myself because I think the arguments should stand for themselves. When someone likes to talk about his great accomplishments, he is diminished.

I agree we and all should make up. But I don’t take well to bullying, it does not matter if it is against me, my friends, or even a total stranger. I am impressed by content, not by those who spout their resume all the time, and diminish the views of other’s.

I have a feeling we will never be best buds online, but I am willing to let it go AGAIN because I still think we are all on the same side.

Molon Labe!

 

achance, it is cool, peace brother

Doc Holliday Wednesday, March 25th at 10:51PM EDT (link)

that is kind of funny :)

Molon Labe!

 
 
 
 

In the meantime the Dems in Washington...

lonebeagle Tuesday, March 24th at 6:28PM EDT (link)

Are lying and cheating and stealing and violating the Constitution and every single principle that this country has stood for since its inception.

Oh, but Sarah Palin is really the screw up with her ilicit Blackberry use and cookie distribution bribes.

Can anyone see the forest for the trees here?

 

How can we help?

Darth_Paleo Tuesday, March 24th at 6:30PM EDT (link)

I’m beyond sick and tired of these vile bottom feeding maggots trying to destroy this woman and her family at ever turn. Liberals can say all they want about how tolerant and compassionate they are, it is a HUGE LIE!!!! Their actions against palin is evident. I have no problem sending in a donation to help towards her legal bills. Among her supporters, raising $500,000 shouldn’t be hard at all to do. Attacks by the vile left aren’t just attacks on Palin but on conservatives in general.

Hmmmm...

Josh Painter Tuesday, March 24th at 7:17PM EDT (link)

Time to dust off Operation Leper?

- JP

“An armed society is a polite society” - Robert A. Heinlein, “Beyond This Horizon” (1942)

 

Fight Fire W/ Fire

OccamsRazor Wednesday, March 25th at 1:16AM EDT (link)

It’s legal issues, fight it with the law.

Rome buckled for alot of reasons, as many historians would claim, but the expanse of the lawyer class was definately one of them-no offense to those here. ;)

OR

 
 

This might be a dumb question but

mom2oneson Tuesday, March 24th at 7:20PM EDT (link)

I don’t understand the bankrupt and leave them destitute idea. If the position is costing her to the point of being destitute why doesn’t she resign? Why not reisgn after it hit the point of being 1/2 her salary? She has an able bodied husband and I’m sure she could find another position easily. I don’t understand staying in a position that is costing you more than your annual salary. I can understand dealing with it for a long term career path even if someone isn’t making anything but at the bankrupt/destitue point I don’t get it why stay with it and then say it’s causing a hardship.

I think part of it

youthgrunt Tuesday, March 24th at 8:02PM EDT (link)

is not letting the bad guys win. If all it took to push someone out of office was to make things hard, then you would see everyone getting pushed out of office (the good and the bad). Ultimately you have to stand up to the junk.

Another part of it is the drive that causes anyone to go into the upper levels of politics in this day and age. You have to have a bit of ego to get there. A bit of ego will not let you step down that easily.

Watch her 3/20/09 Speech for her answer

hrh40 Tuesday, March 24th at 8:27PM EDT (link)

Here’s the link to her Repub Anchorage Lincoln Day Dinner. It’s in 12 parts, #10 in unavailable, and #12 goes to audio only, but you can basically hear 95%.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=19E13EA40A1CC1DE

The whole thing is good but she talks about the media at the beginning and ethics complaints mostly at the end. In the middle she reads a long section from Lincoln on Leadership, how he handled all the criticism and the mocking and the namecalling he received before and after his election. The parallels to her situation in the 3-page clip she reads are pretty amazing!! Right down to some of the names and some of the criticisms. Just. Wow.

And she says something exactly like you said, youthgrunt, we can’t just quit, that’s what they want. She even mentions people using a playbook. Saul Alinsky’s anyone?

I read Alinsky

youthgrunt Tuesday, March 24th at 10:22PM EDT (link)

just before the election and was shocked and scared. I wrote some blogs on an Indiana blog as a book review and drawing a connection between candidate Obama and Alinsky. As we have begun the Obama Presidency, I am convinced that we are looking at an Alinsky Presidency–not only Obama himself, but many of the people in the administration are Alinsky disciples. The focus on Rush was straight from the Rules. The aggressiveness is straight from the Rules. The bare knuckle tactics. The class warfare–including using the “middle class” against the “rich”.

The tactics are scary. The good news (?) is that it has become clear that Alinsky never contemplated actually having to run anything, so our President and his henchmen don’t have a clue.

 
 

It doesn't mean then win though

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 11:10AM EDT (link)

If it’s too expensive for her. That does not mean the win, it just means she can’t fight them at that level.

then= they (nt)

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 11:11AM EDT (link)
 

thanks everyone for your anwers. :) nt

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 11:11AM EDT (link)
 

Politicians have to learn how to man up.

itrytobenice Tuesday, March 24th at 8:32PM EDT (link)

If we tucked our tails and ran home every time a bunch of liberals tried to destroy us, they would be emboldened and no Republican officeholder would be safe from them.

There are two parties in America, the Stupid Party and the Evil Party. The Stupid Party has to stand and fight or the Evil Party will take over.

The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

I agree with man up

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 11:08AM EDT (link)

but maybe it’s appropriate for her to do a supportive role of someone else instead of her fighting this battle.

Then you *don't* agree with man up. [nt]

Martin Knight Wednesday, March 25th at 11:30AM EDT (link)



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

 
 
 

RE: This might be a dumb question but

Martin Knight Wednesday, March 25th at 6:21AM EDT (link)

Did you fail to comprehend what is going on here? That a set of evil people, realizing that she would have to pay out of her own pocket to defend herself against ethics charges have decided to file these charges one after another so that they can drain her bank account?

And your solution is for her to resign?

And what happens when the next governor is also faced with the same tactics? Should he resign too? What about the next one? And the one after that? And the one after that …?

I believe this comment of yours is a picture-perfect definition of failing to think things through.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

When it gets to the point

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 10:10AM EDT (link)

of being destitute I can’t imagine why she would stay. There are many battles out there to fight and if she doesn’t have the resources to be govenor she doesn’t. I just can’t imagine a married woman with five children and one newborn grandchild living with her staying in a position and then saying how it is causing her to be destitute and bankrupt from it.

One more question, why does she need a lawyer to deal with this? Anyone can file things against someone all day long that doesn’t mean they need a lawyer.

So, you think Palin should resign because she's not "rich" enough to be Governor. Interesting.

Martin Knight Wednesday, March 25th at 11:24AM EDT (link)

Right now, to be perfectly honest, I think you’re an idiot. What part of this is a deliberate coordinated campaign targeted at her life savings don’t you understand? Or do you think this is part of a Governor’s job description?

When it gets to the point of being destitute I can’t imagine why she would stay.

Cowards and people with no principles usually suffer from this very same lack of imagination. Which one of the two are you?

There are many battles out there to fight and if she doesn’t have the resources to be govenor she doesn’t.

I don’t believe that elected office should be reserved only for the rich.

I just can’t imagine a married woman with five children and one newborn grandchild living with her staying in a position and then saying how it is causing her to be destitute and bankrupt from it.

But then, Palin is not an unprincipled coward who runs away from her oaths at the first sign of hardship. Perhaps she’s thinking that if she lets her opponents drive her from office with this tactic, no Governor in America would survive a full term.

I understand that you may run away, but that’s you.

One more question, why does she need a lawyer to deal with this?

Err … because she does. It’s kinda what you have to do when such complaints are filed against you. Even frivolous ones by soap opera characters.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

The part nobody's talking about, Martin

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 11:53AM EDT (link)

is that Alaska law provides both legal defense and indemnification in actions filed against a State officer or employee if the complained of act was within the scope of the officer or employee’s employment. See, Alaska Statute (AS) 09.50.250 and .253 and the implementing regulations at 9 Alaska Administrative Code (AAC) 33.010.

She could request defense and indemnification from the Attorney General. Since the AG is her subordinate, the AG would conflict out and contract with some private firm to provide her legal services or even to substitute the State of Alaska itself as the defendant rather than the Governor. If the administration is confident of its position particularly regarding the emails, it would certainly seem appropriate to substitute the State.

But, the key is that the event has to be examined to determine if it was within the scope of the officer or employee’s employment. So, the questions are whether whatever she did or caused to be done regarding Tpr. Wooten was properly within the scope of her duties, and whether the privileges she has asserted regarding the release of emails will withstand judicial scrutiny, or whether she is entitled to the per diem she collects when she’s home in Wasilla, or whether the State properly paid for the kids’ travel when they accompanied her on State trips, or whether her wearing the Arctic Cat jacket at the start of the Iron Dog constituted an impermissible endorsement, etc. That last one is indeed particularly silly and harrassing. If she is confident of her position, the State has lots of lawyers and lots of money.

Getting sued and getting all manner of complaints filed against you is just part of the job. The State is prepared to deal with any complaint against an officer or employee so long as what the officer or employee did was within the scope of employment.

In Vino Veritas

A so why does she have this debt?

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 12:15PM EDT (link)

If the state pays for her legal expenses?

Because she went out and got her own

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 12:19PM EDT (link)

legal defense rather than relying on the State. You’ll have to ask her why. I do know that some of it might have been for Todd Palin who wouldn’t be covered by the State’s system since he isn’t an officer or employee.

In Vino Veritas

that is so sad

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 12:25PM EDT (link)

what a huge unecessary expense, I feel bad they have a spec needs child and a new grandbaby too.

 
 
 
 

job description

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 12:11PM EDT (link)

It wouldn’t surprise me if it was. Getting sued all the time isn’t part of an pediatric surgeon’s job description but they sure need to be prepared for it. I know nothing about being govenor that but it wouldn’t surprise me if it came with the job especially her being a VP candidate too, that is huge.

I’m not an idiot or coward and I don’t run away from hardship. I know that money, free legal help, resources and volunteers do not just appear because someone wants to do good or be brave. If someone does not have it, they don’t have it, there should be no character attack on them because of it. I understand dealing with stress and headaches but to the point of saying my family is destitute because I’m govenor, why stay is she staying in that position.

sorry

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 12:13PM EDT (link)

why is she staying..

Read again; *she's* not saying she's destitute.

Martin Knight Wednesday, March 25th at 1:12PM EDT (link)

That’s the aim of the complaint filers; her bankruptcy and destitution.

Do you get it?



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

 
 

A said it goes with the job

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 12:20PM EDT (link)

So why even get into a position like that if you know you don’t have the resources to deal the expenses. Money is money it doesn’t matter what good you want to do, if it isn’t there it isn’t there.

Damn ... but you're stupid.

Martin Knight Wednesday, March 25th at 1:16PM EDT (link)

So you honestly believe that for one to run for public office, you need to be a millionaire?

I’m done interacting with you, I’ll only get annoyed.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

C'mon, Martin, it was a good faith question.

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 1:23PM EDT (link)

Not everybody here knows how governments work and what is really involved in being an elected or appointed official. Frankly, most are better off not knowing; sausage and laws and all that.

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

It's Criminal What They've Done to Sarah Palin-

reaganiterepublicanresistance Tuesday, March 24th at 7:28PM EDT (link)

There is of course a strategy of pre-emption afoot, with the MSM and online media going after Palin in a substained effort, as mysterious “leaks” from nobody/false rumors, persist. If Sarah Palin is so silly and irrelevant, why the obsession?

Liberals’ double-standard sexism is appalling; she’s “dumb” because she’s a happy and attractive Christian, who enjoys being a mother? Real feminists need to be angry, wear combat boots, no make-up, short hair, and live alone in a studio apartment in the East Village? She’s not the right kind of example because she doesn’t support affirmative action… but instead went out there and just kicked butt?

Democrats are plenty afraid of Palin coming-back at them in 2012 with a dynamic and complementary VP like Bobby Jindal… or visa versa. And they have plenty of reason to fear her. Palin is the most popular governor in the country… are all those people idiots? Alaska was a pretty corrupt system until she stepped in. Her reforms took on entrenched politicians (inc. Republicans), a mafioso-style union boss, and Big Oil.

Wouldn’t it have been nice if Obama had been principled and brave enough to confront the corrupt Chicago Democratic Machine? Or shady political operators like Tony Rezko? Racist preachers? Instead of doing business with every last one of them?

So, the DNC’s friends will be discrediting Palin and claiming condescendingly that she is a “joke” for the next couple years- precisely because they know the opposite to be true. She has been highly successful in life while ignoring the left-wing feminist model… this helps to explain the extra dose of venom in the attacks.

Go get em, Sarah- and don’t mind the press, nobody will be listening to them anymore after the pending Obamamania implosion.

http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com

 

sue the bastards till they bleed....

Jack Tuesday, March 24th at 7:53PM EDT (link)

Anyone filing a false accusation whether or not it is administrative you are allowed to sue them for harassment. At least in those States, territories, and possession that are based on the English common law system.

What I am surprised is how she allows herself to be a punching bag. Sue some of these people have them come off the North Slope and do depositions instead of working and making money and this will come to a halt.

Hit the bastards hard and watch them bleed and the bullies go away.

Jack

“If at age 20 you are conservative you have no heart. It at age 30 you are liberal you have no brains.” Sir Winston Churchill

That is what I was thinking - sue them right back ; )

Elizabeth Christian Tuesday, March 24th at 9:25PM EDT (link)

n/t

Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
~Benjamin Franklin

 
 

No wonder we just lost to a BIG "O"....

lonebeagle Tuesday, March 24th at 9:12PM EDT (link)

With Republicans saying things like “Sarah Sycophants” it’s a miracle that John McCain didn’t lose every state.

The current state of Republicans in America is pathetic. Especially Alaskan Republicans who are probably as corrupt as they come.

I’d prefer to see Obama and the Dems destroy this country–at least I’ll be able to say that it was them and not “us”.

I don't know the first cotton-pickin' thing about Alaska politics

tcgeol Tuesday, March 24th at 10:11PM EDT (link)

which, I suspect, puts me in about the same category as you.

I do know this - a couple of months before the election, almost no one had ever heard of Sarah Palin. Immediately after she was picked, she all of a sudden became the future and savior of conservatism and the Republican party. Now, go ahead and tell me that there wasn’t a big bandwagon there.

I don’t have anything against her at all in a personal level or from what little I know about Alaska politics. except that McCain passed over a bunch of (IMO) better qualified people to pick her.

So disagree if you like, quit getting your panties in a bunch over this. Achance has the same right to his opinion of her as you do, and I trust his a bit more since he actually knows something about the situation.

Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger

To kowalski

tcgeol Tuesday, March 24th at 10:14PM EDT (link)

I voted for Palin and McCain and prayed that they would win. So did Achance, so its not like we tore the Republican party apart. We are hardly the ones you want to blame.

Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger

 

This Party is Finished....

lonebeagle Tuesday, March 24th at 11:57PM EDT (link)

There are NO conservative Republicans anymore. Sarah Palin lives her conservative values. Bobby Jindal is the only other true conservative out there who also happens to be brilliant.

So there we have it–a fellow born from parents who arrived from India to America, and a pre-menopausal, attractive, self-made, intelligent WOMAN from Alaska. The old guard Republicans can’t stand either of these people precisely because they aren’t from the old guard (that’s code for boring white males).

Our Party is as stale as 8 day old bread.

We’ll be wondering the desert longer than Moses.

How about addressing the issue instead of vague comments about the Republican party?

tcgeol Wednesday, March 25th at 12:11AM EDT (link)

Only two brilliant conservatives out there? There are a few more than two on Redstate alone.

Bobby Jindal has much more experience and qualifications in government than does Sarah Palin. I would be very interested in him next time around. How about Mark Sanford, Chris Cox, Romney (maybe), and others? Do they not count just because they are white males and not affirmative action picks?

Sarah Palin seems like a very good, conservative woman and definitely more interesting than McCain. That doesn’t mean that she should be (or should not be, for that matter) VP or POTUS. Obviously, she is head over heels better than The One, but any decent conservative would be as well. If she is truly the best we have in 2012, then we will run with her and try our best to win. That doesn’t mean that we have to fall down and worship right now.

Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger

 

this is bull

Doc Holliday Wednesday, March 25th at 12:15AM EDT (link)

It is not Palin or the highway, we have four freaking years. And I don’t like your unusual description of the woman. I think the Palin kool aide drinkers are as bad as the Fredheads. they are not bad people, they simply are not focused on the things we need to focus on, primarily 2010.

I think there are trolls here trying to stir things up, hell I do it once in a while at KOS but I am smart enough to never be called a troll. I don’t do it often because the place makes me sick, but I have done things to cause discord and discredit the place.

I am not calling you a troll, moby, or whatever new term the ‘net geeks have coined. I am saying we know we have them here and they are not all new members. And I am saying BS to the idea that we have only two real conservatives in our party. We need a new party like we need a new anal cavity search. Do you want to dismantle decades of work so we can join a bunch of whackos?

Yes we need new leadership. We should have names such as Flake, Sessions, and Cantor at the TOP, dictating that we must change our message, and particularly change how we use that message to win. But coming to a Republican blog and saying the party is over seems just an attempt to demoralize. I agree third parties such as the libertarians and Constitution Party are growing because WE are not addressing their causes, but we already have the party infrastructure, we just need to use it better.

Molon Labe!

I never said Palin was the one...

lonebeagle Wednesday, March 25th at 11:38AM EDT (link)

(My internet ISP crashed last night. This is what I was about to post:)

or the future POTUS. She is a LEADER. And she is a very good leader. You can be the smartest and wisest person in the world but that doesn’t mean that you can lead a horse to water.

Bobby Jindal is also a leader and he is also brilliant. You don’t need to have the smarts of a neurosurgeon or physicist to be POTUS. Anybody with average intelligence can do the job just fine.

What you need is personal character and a strong moral fiber. Our party is lacking this and we don’t have leaders.

I thought that Romney was a very good person but he was just another politician.

“The One” is a perfect example of the someone who isn’t a leader and has no moral fiber or character.

I can see the day not so long in the future when our country sinks into the abyss–in fact western civilization could fall apart in a hundred years.

Take a look around you, what do you see? A bunch of worms trying to look out for themselves

And don’t call me a troll. The Republican Party doesn’t give a hoot about people like me. The Party doesn’t have a message or believe in smaller government when Republicans are falling all over themselves to get their earmarks added to the bloated budget.

We’d better find some real conservative leaders and the Republicans better start acting like REPUBLICANS or else there are going to be a lot of people who will just stop participating.

 

Agreed

bs Wednesday, March 25th at 9:20PM EDT (link)

There are a lot of great conservatives out there who can fill the bill. Palin’s fine, but as you say - there is a LOT of time between now and then, and the three potential leaders you list are also at or near the top of my list as well.

Great points.

Decorum is fo’ suckas

 
 
 
 
 

How can a 21st century governor get bankrupted this way?

smagar Tuesday, March 24th at 9:54PM EDT (link)

I don’t get it.

America is a litigious society. Every politician has to plan on getting sued. If nothing else, people will sue solely for the purpose of harassing you.

I find it hard to believe that there aren’t mechanisms in place to deal with these costs. Doesn’t the state defend her, in some way/shape/form? Or, is it “accepted” that an elected official’s supporters will quietly gather the money to cover these costs.

Have I somehow missed the fact that most American governors owe millions in personal debt due to being sued while in office. Because I have to believe that Palin is not the only governor to have drawn partisan ire in the past. Surely this has happened many, many times before.

“Who will stand/On either hand/And guard this bridge with me?” (Macaulay)

 

All it takes is one . . .

jimmuy8 Tuesday, March 24th at 10:14PM EDT (link)

This country, this party, our ideals have a thousand packs of wolves all clawing and tearing at the flesh.

We can’t fight them all, we only need to fight one.

How the hell are we so damn stupid that we can’t see the lesson we have been beat over the head with day after day after day for the last 8 years?

There should not be a Republican ever in front of a microphone who doesn’t say at least 3 bad things about 0, not one.

But here we are, running from one little brush fire to another . . .

 

As a left-leaner...

aardpig Tuesday, March 24th at 10:17PM EDT (link)

…I would be delighted to see Ms Palin running as VP or Pres. in 2012. Absolutely delighted!

“I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C and D. Just who do they think they are?”. — B.G.

But even a left-leaner

youthgrunt Tuesday, March 24th at 10:25PM EDT (link)

should not relish the “politics of destruction” that seem to be going on here. This is not the way to win–on either side of the aisle.

Where's my relishing?

aardpig Wednesday, March 25th at 6:17AM EDT (link)

I’m not relishing anything at all. I just hope she runs.

“I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C and D. Just who do they think they are?”. — B.G.

The question is; do you support this?

Martin Knight Wednesday, March 25th at 6:38AM EDT (link)

Otherwise your comment is completely off-topic.



 To me, “consensus” seems to be the process of abandoning all beliefs, principles, values and policies. So it is something in which no one believes and to which no one objects … There are still people in my party who believe in “consensus” politics. I regard them as Quislings, as traitors … I mean it.
      - Margaret Thatcher
NOTE: “consensus” = “Bipartisanship™”/”Centrism™”

Not off topic

aardpig Wednesday, March 25th at 8:26AM EDT (link)

….I fluffed a reply to reaganiterepublicanresistance, who claimed that ”Democrats are plenty afraid of Palin coming-back at them in 2012 with a dynamic and complementary VP like Bobby Jindal”.

Although I’m not a Democrat, I lean in that direction, and yet would be keen for both Jindal and Palin to form a ticket in 2012.

“I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C and D. Just who do they think they are?”. — B.G.

 
 

I'm not saying that you are

youthgrunt Wednesday, March 25th at 3:34PM EDT (link)

I’m just giving you the opportunity to indicate your opposition to these tactics when you have given a brief comment that I read as sarcastic.

It might be nice if you would say why you would hope that Palin runs.

I think Palin should run...

aardpig Wednesday, March 25th at 9:09PM EDT (link)

…because she would keep the Democratic party honest. If they steamroll the 2012 election, then everyone loses. But Palin’s unique strengths as a candidate will force the Democratic party to work hard and stay lean.

“I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B, C and D. Just who do they think they are?”. — B.G.

 
 
 
 
 

Alaska or ANYWHERE

Knightbrigade Tuesday, March 24th at 11:20PM EDT (link)

Payback’s a B$%^&!
Look if this kind of crap goes on in politics, fine.
It’s BS, but if that’s life then there MUST be some effective form of a response.

Now other commenter’s have suggested a legal defense fund, which Sarah would raise plenty. Could the same be said from the shmucks who are making the trouble? I think not.

So good RedStaters from the great State of Alaska, do what ya gotta do.
The names of these characters who so proudly harass Governor Palin
Andree McLeod, Zane Henning, Linda Kellen Biegel, etc. are for ALL to see.

Use your imagination, be nice, be LEGAL, but lets see how deep their pockets are.

“From MY cold dead hands”

 

These comments are amusing

Maggie_in_Indiana Wednesday, March 25th at 8:26AM EDT (link)

and most of unproductive,other than to reassure the left that the Republican party is in chaos with infighting, and over what? The “star” of our party? Sad. she deserves support even if she was naive to think her email was with those she could trust. There’s a word …trust.

Gov. Palin for her faults at being human ,trusting,forward, popular and Conservative,is a target for those very reasons. She will not be the last in the next 3/12 years. If people who supported her throw her under the bus who’s next? Any Jindal bashers here? Pence haters? Demint scoffers? Get a grip and stop yelling over each other.

The left and some in our party do want Conservatives anywhere near the nomination in 2012. We should be more vigilant,and not so quick to fuel someone else’s fire.

Maggie in Indiana

555 - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine Wednesday, March 25th at 8:30AM EDT (link)

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson

 

For me it isn't about bashing

AKSteveB Wednesday, March 25th at 11:45AM EDT (link)

At this second in time I like Gov. Jindal a lot. I also realize it is way too early for it to matter much and that I don’t know THAT much about him. I definitely want the input of anyone in Louisiana who knows some of the inside baseball and can point out the warts in addition to the accomplishments. We don’t want or need our own Obama, where we fall for anyone who is all hat no cattle.

Hell is other people - Sartre

 

Trust isn't the issue, Maggie.

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 12:13PM EDT (link)

The emails were generated on State equipment and the State network. In my view and in accord with State policy since the mid-90s, those emails are public record. She has asserted all sorts of privileges to try to prevent disclosure of certain emails. Her Commissioner of Administration has gone so far as to request a formal opinion of the Attorney General which which would appear to give her some protection from disclosure. Any State officer is allowed to rely on the formal opinion of the AG unless and until such opinion is overturned by the courts.

I don’t believe the AG’s Opinion or her asserted privileges will survive court scrutiny and she will be ordered to disclose them. Now, anybody who has been around State government for more than a few hours could and should have told her that anything she did on a state email or cell phone was subjece to wind up on the front page of the Anchorage Daily News. Either people were afraid to tell her or she was told and didn’t listen.

In Vino Veritas

Aren't the emails tagged with that disclosure

mom2oneson Wednesday, March 25th at 12:31PM EDT (link)

in FL all the state emails have this public disclosure type of sig line on them. Even the govenors contact us page has a warning to write a letter instead of an email that all emails are public and the media can request them. I can’t imagine she didn’t know that being the govenor herself.

You'd be amazed at what elected officials don't know.

Achance Wednesday, March 25th at 12:45PM EDT (link)

Regular State employees have to sign off on a specific form that sets out the State’s policy regarding electronic resources and which makes it clear that you have no privacy. I don’t know what a new elected or appointed official gets but I suspect somebody does it all for them and just hands it to them and says, “Sign this.”

Under Alaska law, even a letter would become public record once it was delivered to the State unless it fell into a very limited scope of privilege.

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 
 

How about a peace proposal?

Steph C Wednesday, March 25th at 1:52PM EDT (link)

I’ve been watching upthread the argument taking place and I have a proposal that might help all of you.

Achance doesn’t like Palin and it appears he has his reasons and he has listed them more than once. Others like her a lot and appear to have their reasons, too, and have listed their reasons more than once.

Reagan was a Democrat before he became the conservative standard. Everybody is entitled to be human. Palin is human. We are not Democrats to place our politicians on pedestals reaching into the stratosphere. Instead, we expect them to screw up because they all have their strengths and weaknesses.

She was inexperienced as governor when tapped for VP, although what she had done record-wise seemed impressive. The behind the scenes stuff is what Achance knows and it has colored his picture of much of the rest of the country’s conservative hope.

Obsessing over Palin or any other potential candidate at this point is a futile endeavor. We have several possibilities up and coming in the GOP. I’m not wedded to any particular person at the moment. Why not focus on what they’re doing now and how those doings play out instead of wrangling over every little perceived misstep?

Just a month ago, people were talking about how bad Jindal came off in response to Obama’s first press conference. Last night, there was a second look at Jindal and he was very impressive indeed.

Guess what? They’re all human.

Can’t we, please, stop wrangling over whether Palin is a Goddess or a Lilith? Right now, we need to focus on the empty suit of a president we have, not one we want for 2012 considering it’s a long way off yet.

Let’s take care of now and when the time is right, we’ll get the candidate we need or deserve… or both, if we’re lucky. We have to deserve good conservative leaders as much they have to deserve the role of good conservative leader.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

55555^ Steph. Things like the GIVE act are being

janis Wednesday, March 25th at 2:09PM EDT (link)

slipped into our lives while we fight about what happens in 4 years. If we don’t pay attention to the here and now, we may not have to worry what happens in 4 years. We may not have an opportunity to cast our votes as we please to any effect at all. Heads up folks!

janis

Steph C Wednesday, March 25th at 6:02PM EDT (link)

The more we jump at the carrots of scandal, the less time we have to come up with a real message and a start of putting that message into action. We’ve got a lot of catching up to do if we’re going to turn away these crazy making government policies and that needs to be done long before we even think about 2012.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

 
 

I would also like to see us

youthgrunt Thursday, March 26th at 8:22AM EDT (link)

focus on 2010 more than 2012 right now. Unless Palin decides to run against an incumbent for a Senate seat, she will not be in the 2010 discussion. It is imperative that we reduce the Democrat advantage in the Senate and that we take back the House of Representatives ASAP.

You are right that the Palin/Jindal/Sanford/fill in the Presidential candidate that you like discussion is not productive right now. ALL are capable of expressing the conservative message–the more the merrier. What I want to know is who is going to run against Evan Bayh for Indiana Senator in 2010 (and dozens of other races) and what tactics do we use to get them elected.

But the point of the post

youthgrunt Thursday, March 26th at 8:26AM EDT (link)

This post, however, is pointing out the new tactics (aka the politics of destruction) that are being used against one of the conservative standard bearer. Support or don’t support Palin, this tactic is scary because we are moving from a “destroy her political life” to “destroy her political and financial life”. If they use it on someone you don’t like today, they can use it on someone you DO like tomorrow.

Agree or disagree with Palin as a standard bearer, we should seek to stop this kind of destruction ASAP. I think there are legal changes that should be made to encourage this kind of behavior to go away.

 
 
 

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