We’ve got 12 precincts left to count, so it’s over…


well, it was over three months ago, but who\'s counting.

The primary is over here in Arizona with all but 10 precincts in Maricopa County and 2 in Pima County (Tucson) reporting.

  • US Senate: McCain 56%; Hayworth 32%; Deakin 12%.
  • Governor: Brewer 82%; nobody else matters.
  • CD01: Will be ;Dr. Paul Gosar v. Ann Kirkpatrick (D).
  • CD03: Will be Quayle v. Jon Hurlburd (D).
  • CD05: David Schweikert v. Mitchell (D).
  • CD08: Jesse Kelly v. Gillbrand (D).
  • CD04 and CD07 will stay Dem.
  • CD02 and CD06 will stay Rep.

1. US Senate.
McCain by ahhh 24%. The rationalization of those who have been insisting JD Hayworth was “The Man” will be that McCain had to spend $20MM to beat him. If you think that, you live in a world of rainbows and unicorns. McCain didn’t spend $20MM because he had to, he spent $20MM because he could.

  • JD was never a credible candidate. He’s a well known commodity all over AZ and got tossed in 06 by Harry Mitchell because the voters were – and are – disgusted by him.
  • JD polled 43%, down 2%, to McCain last November when nobody had had time to remember just how bad JD really is. He pretty much crashed from there.
  • Polling in late July showed McCain up 20%+ with overall favorables while JD had overall unfavorables.
  • The Ds nominated the Unknown Marxist from Tucson.
  • McCain won’t have to spend a dollar to win in November.

Bottom line, this race was a fool’s errand for JD from day one. IMO he ran to pay off $100K in debt from 06. The only thing he accomplished, aside from making a complete fool of himself for a national audience (we already knew it here) was to divert $20MM plus that could have gone to winning House seats. My fondest desire is that JD is embarrassed enough to move to Kansas. Or somewhere. Anywhere but Arizona.

Governor.
This is a monster disappointment if you are a conservative or if you care about the future of Arizona. Jan Brewer won in a slow walk and will will pound Terry Goddard to dust in November (a good thing).

Brewer is Charlie Crist in drag. Just before SB1070 was all the rage she was beatable by any one of four competitors. She didn’t support SB1070 through the legislative process and nobody really knew whether she’d sign it until she actually did. She read her handlers lines well from that point on the subject of SB1070 and rode the wave. The problem is that she is a fiscal moderate at a time when we need Chris Christie. AZ has HUGE budget problems and her budget last year is a house of cards. Hopefully the legislature will hold her feet to the fire when the TARP money and the temporary tax increases are gone. Brewer is a totally incompetent administrator in her new position. She’s not a leader and has no agenda beyond being employed by the state.

Hopefully either John Shadegg or maybe Matt Salmon will run against her in four years. Assuming we’re still a state. Our next Governor will likely have a huge mess to clean up.

Congressional Races.
There are two safe D seats and three safe R seats. One of the R seats will have a new “sitter” in Ben Quayle (John Shadegg’s old seat). Raul G and Ed Pastor (Ds both) will be in Congress until hell freezes over or they get redistricted out (not gonna happen, but a higher probability than them losing). Trent Franks and Jeff Flake are both secure Rs.

The good news is that we should have a good shot at taking back three seats in November. The bad news is that all three Dems are very well heeled – literally have millions in the bank – and the Republicans are all broke. These three races will come down to money and organization and money. Did I mention money?

The situation we’re in today in these three districts is exactly what really ticked me off about JD Hayworth and his “Man of LaMancha” act. He pissed away a couple of million jousting at Windmill McCain and McCain spent $20MM beating him to a pulp. Half of that would pretty well insure three Republican House seats. Oh well.

I hope Redstate will promote our three candidates. They are all conservative and they are all lightyears better than the current members who support Pelosi etal. Please pay them a visit and consider a donation if you’ve got a buck or two laying around to invest in winnable races.

My fondest hope is that the two top fundraisers – McCain and Ben Quayle – will pony up big bucks and help the three who can win. Neither McCain or Quayle will have to spend any money to win so I hope they “share”.



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I just went to Green Papers to check the money

pilgrim (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 3:21PM EDT (link)

All 3 of the Rs trying to flip the 3 seats, AZ1, AZ5, and AZ8 have less money than the D incumbents in these seats. That is almost always the case when you run against an incumbent instead of for an open seat. Dr Paul Gosar AZ1 is hurting the most for money, next in less dire straits is Jesse Kelly AZ8, and last is David Schweiker AZ5.


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Dave's been alright for funds

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 6:22PM EDT (link)

I don’t think he needs too much help to get over the finish line, and from what I understand, he’s got lots of organization on his side. Could use funds, but I think he’ll win in a walk.

Kelly’s team is very motivated and well organized, and with the news that Paton (his main competitor in the primary) has endorsed him, he will have organizational support to spare. What he really needs is money for ads and for campaign expenses. I give him even odds for winning even without more funding due to organization and his being a good candidate, but his campaign really could use some cash.

I know nothing about Gosar; hopefully, he’s all good.

I’m pretty sure that Quayle will help out in the funding department; it’s an ironclad rule that monetary largesse is the quickest way to ingratiate oneself with a group, and though I don’t think that Quayle has ideological aspirations, I don’t get the feeling that he’s joining the AZ caucus to be a follower.

Regardless, please fund Gosar and Kelly.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

 

Show me your green AZ papers, pil! and GC highly recos 'Becker's latest - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 8:52PM EDT (link)

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I can't believe 'fake family' Quayle won.

usadying (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 4:24PM EDT (link)

I hope his opponent doesn’t make hay with that. I would consider staying at home, but this election is too important. Giffords, Kirkpatrick and Mitchell MUST go.

Quayle will win by a huge margin.

mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 11:01PM EDT (link)

He’s got lots of money and name recognition. The D has neither. And won’t get either by election time.

Change

 
 

Did Thomas Pull Out The AZ AG Race? (nt)

IJB Wednesday, August 25th at 4:39PM EDT (link)

with 99.7% of votes counted,

usadying (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 5:05PM EDT (link)

Thomas is behind by 373 votes.

 
 

mbecker I understand CD7 is DEM +6

deano64 (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 5:01PM EDT (link)

I understand the reality of those numbers in this district, but I just can’t ever write this off as Raul G’s home for life. Why can’t I you might ask? Well I just recently moved here from Flakes district. I’m a PC here and now under conventional wisdom I guess I shouldn’t even waste my time on GOTV for Ruth McClung. If voters in my precinct ask me about her maybe I should just say Ruth who? I shouldn’t give her $10 or $20 bucks or if I do I might do as well to pitch it out in the street since that’s how much good it will do. However, I will give her what I can afford and I will work on GOTV for her. I will do this because I believe this is how we begin to take back our country. Obviously Raul G. feels safe ()he probably is) or he probably wouldn’t have called for a boycott of his own state. I understand this is an uphill battle, but I don’t believe it’s insurmountable. I also understand there are other candidates I can work for and win with, but I won’t give up on CD7. Maybe someday you won’t give up on us either.

Precinct Committeeman before it was cool.

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
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It is always a tough call. I am supporting a Republican in heavy dem

earlgrey (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 5:22PM EDT (link)

district near me. Most likely she will not win, but I feel like if we just walk away from all of these races that we don’t think we have a shot of winning than we are little by little giving away more and more of our country.

I also believe in forcing a debate in these districts. There may be some people that can be reached and those citiizens also vote for local races, governor etc. My congresswoman is a solid R – Dem legislature gerrymandered the district to get as many of us unpure souls in one district as possible.

I also like to contribute to worthy conservatives across the country when I can.

Never miss a chance to challenge the status quo and fight for conservatisim.

 

True but

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 6:35PM EDT (link)

this is Grijalva, not just any old Dem. The guy makes no bones about being an authoritarian internationalist progressive, and we’re thus not going to get the votes of people who mistakenly believed him to be conservative, as is happening with other Dems around the country.

That said, Ruth McClung is the best possible candidate to go against him this election season, and she might just pull it off. I think it’s highly doubtful, though, and I would advise helping our other cash-strapped Republicans first.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

 

It's strictly a matter of priorities deano.

mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 11:06PM EDT (link)

We can and should win 3, 5 & 8 and with limited resources that’s where our money should go.

The district may be D+6 but in Raul’s case I think it’s more like D+20. Get the three we “should” get, control the reapportionment and get the new district and then go after Raul in ’12 if it’s winnable.

Again, let me add a caveat, it’s not my district so I’m perfectly happy to yield to aesthete or other “more local” opinions.

Change

I'll note

aesthete (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 12:40AM EDT (link)

that at my polling location, turnout was at a record low. Problem is, I don’t think that Grijalva would be as lazy about this problem as Coakley in MA was, but it’s always possible that something could happen.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

 

mbecker, Oh I know and I agree if it comes down

deano64 (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 1:44PM EDT (link)

to someone having $25 to send one candidate you have to look where it would do the most good and be realistic. I’m just saying don’t give up on us down here. As for myself and aesthete we will fight the good fight against Grijalva. Maybe we can take him out in 2012 or just maybe who knows what might happen this year. Stranger things have happened. Well see what happens with redistricting. The redistricting commission has 2 R’s, 2 D’s and 1 independent.. the only problem is that is there really is no such thing as an independent. We’ll see.

Precinct Committeeman before it was cool.

“The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money.”
Alexis De Tocqueville

deano if you guys get Raul, you get an eternal place on the 908 Wall of Fame!

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 2:12PM EDT (link)

And by all means you should never give up the fight.

Change

 
 
 
 

I'm still in shock

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 6:29PM EDT (link)

that JD lost. This is my shocked face, for all of those wondering.

Honestly, JD getting all that cash was the most infuriating thing about the whole ordeal. The most frustrating part is that, were it not for the political effect that SB1070 had, we would have a lot of cause for concern in AZ wrt our cash-strapped candidates, all of whom were more conservative, effective, less expensive, and who were going to knock a Dem out of the House.

I’m almost certain that Quayle will “spread the wealth”, to steal Obama’s phrase, and I think (though I’m not sure) that McCain will, too.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

I know you and Becker weren't the biggest fans of

eburke (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 7:52PM EDT (link)

Hayworth (he says tongue-in-cheek) but Hayworth accomplished one thing in this race – he scared McCain enuf that Johnny Mac spent over $20 million of his stash on his race which means he wasn’t spending it to get other ‘establishment’ Republicans elected.

(I do find ironic humor in the fact that the author of McCain-Feingold who routinely decries the ‘corrupting influence’ of money in politics just raised and spent a buttload of it to win his seat; so…does this mean that Johnny is, de facto, corrupt?)

In addition, his need to run to the right to fend off JD meant he couldn’t play his usual ‘maverick’ role and play all nicey-nice w/the Dems and the MFM. Since we only had one vote to spare, this was ‘huge’. When Johnny goes back to being Maverick now that he’s been reelected, we’ll have more conservative Rs in the Senate and we won’t be hanging by a thread.

I know you two both view this race as having taken away funds from good conservative candidates in AZ CDs, but I also think in the grand scheme of things Johnny having to fight off JD was a net plus for the conservative movement as a whole.

Just my humble opinion.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

So what you're saying is that

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 8:35PM EDT (link)

the money, time, and effort wasted in this onanistic venture to get one jerk-off replaced with another jerk-off was worth it… because McCain tossed the money down the crapper instead of donating it to his preferred candidates? I’m not exactly McCain’s bff, but any money he would have given to Republican candidates, even (gasp!) moderate Republicans, would have been a better use of that money than letting it get wasted in AZ. Certainly, the money that went to JD’s Debt Relief Fund could have been better allocated by conservatives. In candor, this is the sort of sentiment that leads to stunts like Tancredo’s bid for governor in CO.

In addition, McCain was “moving to the right” before JD took the stage. This is mostly due to the fact that he really hates Obama and his disdain for the “Senate rules”, and has very little to do with JD. JD’s running did little except to get people to donate to JD and to McCain for a race whose final result was inevitable.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

Thanks for your gracious acceptance of the olive branch. -nt-

eburke (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 8:40PM EDT (link)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

And to kowalski...yes, I am glad that Johnny

eburke (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 8:45PM EDT (link)

kept his money in AZ rather than sending it to a bunch of moderate Republicans in primaries when we’re trying to take the party back from the people who made us indistiguishable from the Dems to the average voter.

And if JD was as bad a candidate as you say he was (and he was) nobody *made* McCain spend that much money except his meglamaniacal desire for power and adulation wanted to.

And based on his past record? I’ll get back to you in a couple of years and his votes to see whether he’s actually changed or this was just an election year conversion. I’ve followed him for 20 years since I lived in AZ and let’s just say I won’t be holding my breath that this was anything but an election year conversion which has been his pattern for…well…twenty years.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

You're right about McCain

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 9:11PM EDT (link)

I’m not sure why he spent the money, but yes, that was a complete waste of funds on his part. McCain being McCain, I’m not surprised that he did something like that. McCain isn’t the hero in all of this: no one covered themselves in glory in this Senate race. Conservatives, OTOH, should have known better, and should have looked into JD’s record (both electoral and political) more thoroughly, as many (not necessarily yourself) were duped both into believing that JD could win, and that he was conservative.

I don’t think that McCain changed, either: he doesn’t want to change. I definitely don’t think that a one-off fight that McCain won handily against a bad candidate would change him. McCain is a jerk, and he’s pretty consistent: it’s not about ideology for him, his schtick is fighting the guy who isn’t playing by the Senate’s “rules”, or who otherwise ticks him off and (preferably) is in power. Then, he can showboat around and do the “great man of the Senate” routine. If a Republican is in power in 2012, my guess is that McCain will go right back to being the charming version of himself that we all know and love.

But hey, what’s done is done, and hopefully we all are the wiser for it. We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one, and if you’re still game for olive branches, I am. Onwards to victory in AZ-01, AZ-05, and AZ-08, eh?

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

Also

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 9:12PM EDT (link)

Sorry for the sarcasm, my prior post was unnecessarily vicious.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

Unnecessarily vicious, but nonetheless appropriate

JSobieski (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 9:43PM EDT (link)

McCain’s schtick is and always has been McCain. The shame of it is, if he wasn’t in politics, he would be a blast…. or at least a hoot.

Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf

Yeah, probably

aesthete (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 12:43AM EDT (link)

I’ve met him, and I always got the impression that he’s egotistical, but not a bad guy to be around, necessarily. I think a whole lot of politicians missed their calling as pitchmen or marketers. A lot of them can be credibly stated to be decent people with a disproportionately overwhelming need to be liked by others.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

People with big egos are often fun in limited doses

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 12:49AM EDT (link)

I mean seriously, who wouldn’t have some fun hanging out with a John McCain or a Bill Clinton for an evening. People with big egos like to bring life to the party because it fills their ego. Bill Clinton should have either been a used car salesman or a tv evangelist. I would very much prefer if neither had gotten involved in politics. Same could be said for Rostenkowski

Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf

Clinton was a smart guy, too

aesthete (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 12:56AM EDT (link)

You wouldn’t think it by looking at him or listening to him, but the Rhodes Scholar was no idiot. Yet, history won’t remember him for creating an engineering start-up company or a slightly slimy motivational speaker, they’ll remember him as the triangulator who forgot about the stained dress. Politics has a funny way of turning a person’s attributes against himself that way.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

 
 

And that, in a nutshell, is why Republicans have problems in D.C.

acat (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 12:52AM EDT (link)

The whole “need to be liked” bug.

Last time I checked, Congress is in the business of running the country, Miss Universe is in the business of being liked.

Perhaps the politicians really are in the wrong field.

Mew

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Honestly, you look at things like

aesthete (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 2:24AM EDT (link)

public choice theory and the psychological profile of those drawn to the job, and you wonder not why things are so bad, but why they aren’t so much worse.

And yes, it would be fun to see just how many tinpot dictators we could scoop up by adding a Miss Universe category for octogenarians of lower than average intelligence.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

 

Remember the old saw:

cwilson (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 10:46AM EDT (link)

Politics is show business for ugly people.

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen! –Samuel Adams

 
 
 
 
 

Olive branch accepted. And now that we both have one,

eburke (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 9:55PM EDT (link)

let’s go beat the crap out of the libs with them because what unites us far exceeds what divides us.

(And I’ll even send a few shekels to Schweikert, Gosar and Kelly just to aid in the cause :-) )

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

And to kowalski (again), the solution I made to becker

eburke (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 9:57PM EDT (link)

the other day was to plant a TV camera facing out over the edge of the Grand Canyon because JD & John would’ve fallen all over each other to try and get in front of it.

Problem solved. :-)

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

Good idea

aesthete (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 10:07PM EDT (link)

but put it somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic ocean: closer to most of the truly pernicious politicians, being as it is closer to the East Coast and all, and no chance of recovery :)

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

 

On that we are in 300% agreement eburke.

mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 11:13PM EDT (link)

That would add up with 100% for you, 100% for me and 100% for aesthete.

I would note that the only improvement would be to find a way to get Joe Arpaio at that press conference.

Change

And the funniest comedic buildup in a 3 comment sequence goes to

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 12:42AM EDT (link)

eburke, aesthete, and mbecker.

LOL is overused, but its definitely applicable here. What a great image to ponder as one retires for the night.

Did you know that China has been losing manufacturing jobs since 1995? For the specific data, see Table 1 in the following link: http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2005/07/art2full.pdf

Well, we do what we can with our limited talent.

eburke (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 12:51PM EDT (link)

Actually, we’re planning on taking our act on the road after the November elections.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

Clearly, I'm the straight man in this act

aesthete (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 3:03PM EDT (link)

‘Beck is the dry humorist, and you, of course, are all about the physical comedy.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Sorry eburke but that's just hogwash.

mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 11:11PM EDT (link)

I seldom disagree with you, but in this case I must.

McCain spent the money because he could not because he had to. He really wanted to crush JD and he did. If he’d have held his spending to nothing more than JD spent (I don’t know how much that was) he’d have still likely won by 15 – 20.

The voters in Arizona really have no use for JD Hayworth. Personally. JD couldn’t get elected to a school board let alone win a high profile election.

Change

I actually agree in part with you on this, becker,

eburke (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 12:20AM EDT (link)

as is evidenced by part of one of my replies to aesthete:

“And if JD was as bad a candidate as you say he was (and he was) nobody *made* McCain spend that much money except his meglamaniacal desire for power and adulation wanted to”

But whatever the reason, w/out JD as a candidate, (and, again, I’m no big Hayworth fan) McCain would have been able to spread his millions around to all sorts of ‘establishment’ candidates like Bridgewater and Norton and, as close as those races were, those dollars could’ve made a difference.

So, no matter what a blowhard JD was/is, and whether he ever had a chance to win (which he really didn’t) my silver lining in the cloud was that I believe he pushed McCain to the right (we’ve both seen the McCain conservative conversion every 6 years) but even more so, for whatever reason, he forced McCain to spend his entire stash, which most likely wouldn’t have gone to any of ‘our’ candidates anyway.

The money that went to JD? That’s a different story but net/net, I enjoyed watching McCain waste all that smack when he didn’t have to. (in addition to, as I mentioned to aesthete, he exposed himself even more for the hypocrite he is when he sanctimoniously decried money as a ‘corrupting influence’; I guess that applies unless it’s your ass that’s being challenged)

Oh, and btw – if you could arrange for a *real* challenger to McCain in 2016, I’d be much obliged.

“All that need be done for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Unified Patriots

 
 
 
 

So you were right....JD Smacked Down hard

SteveLA (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 7:54PM EDT (link)

mbecker

Looks like you read AZ correctly, at least when it comes to JD, Johnny Mac laid down one of the biggest smack downs in recent memory. Cost Johnny Mac a fair amount of change, something like $21 Million, but looks like it was money well spent.

So what’s next for JD, more infomercials about “free government money”, or maybe back to radio with Farm reports, or something else? Keep us informed when the next incarnation of JD emerges from the train wreck please.

______________________________________

Competency over ideological purity and litmus tests

Yes, '908 re-published polls heralding his (and most Arizonans') desired result

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 8:49PM EDT (link)

Given that result, I doubt even a ‘becker energized for my favorite weatherman instead of discouraging those desiring a more conservative Senator on immigration, judges, energy policy, etc would have made a difference.

Sometimes a think a corollary to “one cant be a prophet in their own land” applies to politics, in that at least from atop Stone Mountain and other points north and east, JD seems the more reliable conservative vote, which seems to be the most important issue in saving America, rather than personality and parochial concerns just now. No amount of seniority-induced pork or other benefits from a McCain is as important as fixing the overall economy, and while McCain may well have learned some lessons re tax cuts and amnesty, I still have not heard a strong case for choosing Maverick over that jolly regular guy named Hayworth.

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“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

Gee Mike, I'm flattered.

mbecker908 (Diary) Wednesday, August 25th at 11:25PM EDT (link)

But really, I’m no “opinion maker” in Arizona. JD cemented his reputation and people’s opinion of him a long, long time ago.

As far as a case for McCain, it looks like this (and I would take any of probably a dozen Arizona conservatives over McCain):

  • McCain is more of a contrarian than a “maverick”. He seems happiest when he’s making a President miserable.
  • McCain is good at being a contrarian and will be very effective against Obama.
  • JD has no good reputation in DC. He couldn’t provide any sort of leadership against Obama.
  • On immigration, McCain is a very reliable vote against what Obama is trying to do via regulation. He will have high visibility and good credibility. JD would have neither.
  • In fiscal terms, JD is a flat out liberal. McCain will likely fight hard to restore some sense of sanity. JD would be measurably worse for the economy.

And finally, we’ve got six years to build a plan and find a credible candidate in case McCain decides to pull a Strom Thurmond.

Change

Quibble over your last sentence. Old age is reason enough to retire McCain. [nt]

acat (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 12:54AM EDT (link)

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Erm... I mean retire McCain in 2016, not 2010.

acat (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 12:56AM EDT (link)

Gotta back the Republican in the general.
Send Harry Reid back to the minority.
Assuming Harry’s even there to kick.

Mew

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I agree cat... nt

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 8:53AM EDT (link)
 

Yes, I suspect McCain has learned some lessons and has some positives as you suggest - send JD back to the southeast where he is loved and can get real BBQ (pork)! - nt

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 8:57AM EDT (link)

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Make no mistake about any "lessons" he will go back

JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 4:02PM EDT (link)

to being “good” ole John right after the election.

I think mbecker is right—McCain just likes to urinate on the shoes of whomever is President. I think its part ego and part POW. The dude has a very weird psychology to him, but you have to give him credit for marching to the beat of his own incoherent drummer.

If we get a Republican back in the WH in 2013, look for McCain to introduce bipartisan immigration reform in the first week, totally undercutting the new President’s honeymoon. After throwing everything into a pile a $#%&@ he will then retire satisfied that he got the better of the last 3 CICs.

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MY EXPECTATIONS FOR MOST POLS INCL MCCAIN ARE

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Thursday, August 26th at 7:45PM EDT (link)

APPROPRIATELY LOW – SMILE

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