Moving in the right direction on immigration…


Rep Smith and Rep King you’re doing the Lord’s work!

Politico has a great article that I think shows that Washington Republicans may be about to get something right. And they’re going to address a serious problem and actually do something that will make the problem less of a problem. In addition, it will establish that criminal behavior is criminal behavior and should be treated as such.

To digress just a tad, I am a great believer in a couple of things. The first is winning by incrementalism. In other words, when attacking a big issue you’re not likely to get a clear win in one felled swoop. You usually can, however, pick off a bunch of low hanging fruit that, if done right will build a solid foundation for moving toward other wins on the issue and you will also build credibility as you move ahead one win at a time. The second thing is directly related to the subject of this post, illegal immigration. I was – and am – opposed to SB1070 here in Arizona. I’ll support it because it’s passed the Legislature, been signed by the Governor and is currently being adjudicated through the Courts now, and I hope Arizona wins. I do believe there was a simpler and much less controversial way to achieve the same result – making life difficult for illegal aliens to they’ll go elsewhere. Don’t go after them directly, go after the people who employ them illegally, go after those who provide them housing, go after those who provide them government benefits. Take away jobs, housing and the “safety net” and you don’t much have to worry about THEM. They’ll go elsewhere. Do it nationally, they might even go home. Or to Canada. Either works for me.

OK, that said, Representative Smith made my day with this…

After weeks of speculation that he would pursue a scorched-earth immigration agenda, Smith detailed his to-do list for the first time in an interview with POLITICO — and it’s an early but important signal that the new House Republican majority plans to attack the issue of immigration through the prism of jobs, rather than red meat for the base.

Smith’s first two hearings will focus on expanding E-Verify, a voluntary electronic system for checking the immigration status of workers that President Barack Obama supports and scrutinizing the administration’s record on worksite enforcement.

“They are what I call 70 percent issues — 70 percent or more of the American people support those efforts,” Smith said. “I think they are popular across the board, and I think they will be appreciated by all American workers regardless of their ethnicity or background or anything else.”

And exactly right you are Rep. Smith. This will be enforcement that works and you’ll also have the opportunity to make sure that the Administration actually enforces new laws in this area, although to be fair, Obama’s Administration is doing more on workplace enforcement than his predecessor, and doing a pretty good job at it.

This also means that the “touchy” stuff like “birthright citizenship” won’t be talked about seriously. And that is fine with me because guess what. On January 5 a delegation from the Arizona Legislature will be in Washington talking about that very subject and they plan to enact legislation here in Arizona this year that will address it. Then the Department of Justice can take us to court again. Bottom line, birthright citizenship will get talked about a whole lot and when these subjects are discussed, the conservative opinion nearly always prevails with the American people. Remember SB1070? All the hyperventilating about it by community activists. Well, about 60% of the American people support it and wish their state would enact something similar. And there are, I think, seven states considering SB1070 type of legislation.

Mr. Smith in Washington has his strategy down pat and his tactics are solid. Remember, we’ve got a 9.8% unemployment rate, unless you count the folks who’ve stopped looking and then it’s about 17%. When asked about birthright citizenship, Smith said this…

“That is later on in this Congress; that is not our initial focus,” Smith said. “We don’t have any specific plans now in the early months to move on these issues. The focus is on creating jobs and protecting jobs.”
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Roy Beck, executive director of NumbersUSA, which favors tighter restrictions on legal and illegal immigration, said Smith’s focus on E-Verify and worksite enforcement will do as much as anything else to bring order to the system.

“We think there are a lot of issues in the Internet world that people get really excited about, and in many ways, it is a side show,” Beck said, referring specifically to cutting off benefits for illegal immigrants. “It is not as important as one thing, which is taking away the jobs. So if Lamar Smith is going to focus on keeping illegal aliens out of the jobs, that is more important than all the illegal immigration stuff put together.”

From a political standpoint, framing immigration as a jobs issue makes sense, Camarota said.

“Democrats have to essentially argue it is a good idea to leave those 7 million illegal immigrants in those jobs,” Camarota said. “It puts Democrats on the defensive.”

Got that? Good for the country. A positive step getting the unemployed back to work. Bad for Democrats. Sounds like heaven to me.

Give ‘em hell Mr. Smith.


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speciallist (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 12:00PM EDT (link)

I hope the Repub’s fight hard for this one

amen 'Becker, where we can actually solve a problem that can be seen in the lives of people

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 9:36PM EDT (link)

we should do that as top priorities and yes, also take incremental steps. We need to be smart which I think also includes taking symbolic votes at times to force the ObamaLibDems out in the open for 2012.

And we should not take unnecessary chances on entitlement issues?

Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com and Charlotte Observer columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson

 
 

Go hard after people who hire them.

Jim Tomasik (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 12:32PM EDT (link)

Don’t go after them directly, go after the people who employ them illegally, go after those who provide them housing, go after those who provide them government benefits. Take away jobs, housing and the “safety net” and you don’t much have to worry about THEM.

Go after the businesses. Start fining them then shutting them down for 90 days and then next time take away their business licenses. All that other stuff is just a waste of time. Maybe the state tax collectors should be seizing assets of “contractors” who operate without a state license while hiring illegals.

The illegals will leave and it will cost next to nothing.

 

E-Verify must be mandatory

kestrel (Diary) Wednesday, December 29th at 9:55PM EDT (link)

and it must be for all employers, public and private. This would be a great step. Currently, the use of E-Verify is voluntary except in states and municipalities that have passed laws or ordinances requiring its use, which many have. We’ll see what Rep. Smith proposes, since he’s not giving details yet: “Smith would not say whether he plans to push a bill mandating the use of E-Verify by all private employers, which he has supported in the past, until after the hearing.” He is correct that there is very high public support for this.

This Map of States with Mandatory E-Verify Laws is a good reference, and provides a brief description of each state’s law (that has one) beneath the map. Some requirements have been instituted by executive order, including by Gov. Tim Pawlenty in Minnesota and by two governors in Idaho. Illinois is the only state that actually prohibits the use of E-Verify.

I wonder if there’s a way E-Verify could be used for voter registration, too.

It could be, and I'd like to see it used for rental housing as well.

mbecker908 (Diary) Thursday, December 30th at 12:18AM EDT (link)

I don’t know where Rep. Smith’s efforts will lead this time around, but interestingly enough he’s got the support of the Administration because the one thing they’ve been doing quite well is enforcing hiring requirements at the federal level. Bottom line I’m guessing there’s a 60/40 shot at getting something done in this area. I’m sure it won’t be what I’d really “like”, but I know it will be movement in the right direction. Even if nothing happens this time around it’s still movement in the right direction.

Change

For states with mandatory auto insurance.. tie eVerify to that as well?

acat (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 4:02PM EDT (link)

Just remember to leave a big enough loophole for legal immigrants and refugees.

Mew

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Works for me kitty.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 5:50PM EDT (link)

I would also tie school registration at all levels to eV.

Change

There, Becker, we part company.

acat (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 7:45PM EDT (link)

Two reasons. First, this has the appearance of punishing the kids for the sins of the parents. I know that the parents (and their community) are paying for the school, not the kids, but it’s too easy an image to hand the loons. Besides…

Second, if we expose their kids to our culture, perhaps some will rub off. It certainly rubbed off better in Chicago’s public school system, where the kids were often the only ones in the house who spoke English and were expected to accurately translate for their Greek or Polish or Italian or Chinese immigrant parents.

All classes, by the way, should be in English. No more of this “teach them in their own language” nonsense. Any non-english-speaking kids should spend their first year in a class learning English, taught by an educator who specialized in teaching English to non-native speakers.

Ideally, these classes could also teach some of the traditional three Rs along the way, but the key is producing kids who can survive in the mainstream the following school year.

This would be much cheaper than the current strategy of the teachers unions to staff schools with teachers speaking a polyglot of languages, all paid more than teachers who just know English… No more extra pay for knowing Spanish or French or Urdu. If you want to use that skill, then go learn how to teach kids who speak that language how to speak English.

Mew

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Actually kitty, if we nail jobs and housing

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 10:12PM EDT (link)

school becomes a no-big-deal.

I just happen to be the guy who enjoys rubbing a good quality Kosher salt in an open wound. And I always use Kosher salt because, as I’m sure you know, it’s all about the Jooooooooooos.

Change

LOL, thanks Becker, and Happy New Year! [nt]

acat (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 10:25PM EDT (link)

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Proof that getting tough on illegal immigration increases jobs

sharonmcp (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 8:14AM EDT (link)

referring specifically to cutting off benefits for illegal immigrants. “It is not as important as one thing, which is taking away the jobs. So if Lamar Smith is going to focus on keeping illegal aliens out of the jobs, that is more important than all the illegal immigration stuff put together.”

From a political standpoint, framing immigration as a jobs issue makes sense, Camarota said.”

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I recently read an article on the Daily Caller that proves that not only does getting tough on illegal immigration increase jobs, it also reduces the size of government, trims the budget, and decreases crime.

Virginia county trims government, cuts taxes by cracking down on illegal immigration

Prince William County (PWC) is the second largest county in Virginia and now the number-one job growth locality in the region – with one of the lowest tax burdens – a distinction the chairman of the Board of County Supervisors, Corey Stewart, contends is directly attributable to the disciplined implementation of conservative principles and a harsh crackdown on illegal immigration.

In 2007 the county adopted a very strict illegal immigration policy, which, according to a study by the University of Virginia and the Police Executive Research Forum has likely resulted in a 46.7% drop in aggravated assaults and a 32% drop in violent crime.

Stewart told The Daily Caller that one of the best cost cutters was the reduction in the number of illegal immigrants in the county.

“Above all, we must realize that no arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.” ~ Ronald Reagan

An example of what local gov't can do.

kestrel (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 3:23PM EDT (link)

This is a reply of thanks to sharonmcp, and references the article she linked. I might be putting this in the wrong place (comment vs. reply), but because of the links, I don’t want to risk a cut and paste re-do. I bookmarked the article, Sharon. Thank you for drawing attention to it.

From your linked article, more benefits:
By cracking down on illegal aliens, “…the county has cut more than $140 million from the cost of government, and is employing the lowest number of full-time government workers in the D.C. region. Indeed, residents of the county pay tax bills nearly 30% lower than in neighboring counties….The tax bill today for Prince William County is below where it was in 2007…. adjusted for inflation, it has been a 14% drop in the tax bill.”

(Can someone tell me how to make those light blue, quoted text
blobs?)

The related issue of crime by illegal aliens angers me like few others. More than 50 percent of illegals have a criminal history. Beyond the indescribable cost in human suffering, their incarceration in California costs $43,000 per year per inmate, exceeding $1billion per year. And this does not include local incarceration and prosecution costs.

Reminders of why we need to “Move in the Right Direction” on this (There are endless lists of similar crimes):

KSBW-TV — Salinas, Calif. — December 27, 2010
Previously deported illegal alien accused of child molestation:
A 24-year-old in the country illegally is accused of molesting a 5-year-old girl, Seaside police said Monday.

Dave Gibson — The Examiner — December 21, 2010
Boastful criminal aliens arrested in North Carolina:
On December 14, the Henderson County Sheriff’s Office received a call complaining about a group of men, who were running up and down the hallways in the Bonaire Motel shouting about the fact that they were here illegally, bragging to patrons: “you can’t touch us.”

Dave Gibson — The Examiner — December 12, 2010
Suspected illegal alien wanted for sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl: According to Newport News police, Jose Rodriquez-Hernandez, 22, filmed himself sexually abusing a 10-year-old girl, and posted the video on the internet.

Associated Press — November 8, 2010
Feds: Somali gangs ran sex ring in 3 states:
Minneapolis — Twenty-nine people have been indicted in a sex trafficking ring in which Somali gangs in Minneapolis allegedly forced girls under age 14 into prostitution in at least three states, according to an indictment unsealed Monday.

I guess this is sort of a big thread jack, Mike. Sorry.

 
 

This is all well and good....

bobmontgomery (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 9:29AM EDT (link)

….but does that mean that Jan Brewer and Sheriff Joe can just relax now?

If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington

First of all, Jan Brewer isn't doing - and hasn't done - squat.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 3:41PM EDT (link)

And as far as Joe is concerned, his efforts aren’t much better. They typically result in more lawsuits than arrests and Maricopa County is going broke paying the plaintiffs when they win or the County negotiates a payoff.

I’d be glad to duct tape the two of them together and ship them to you as a New Year’s present if you’d like.

Change

I know it's costing you and your state, and I thank you,

kestrel (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 3:59PM EDT (link)

but every good thing usually does cost. Your state has focused the national spotlight on this issue, and thus can be credited with making Smith and King’s work more possible.

 
 

Of course not.

kestrel (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 3:52PM EDT (link)

Not to speak for Becker, but the more states, counties, and cities take action, the more indisputable evidence there is that citizens want this issue seriously dealt with. This, in turn, makes the job of Reps. Smith and King easier. We all owe a debt, and continued support, to Gov. Brewer and Sheriff Joe.

“How America Can Stand By Arizona” is somewhat outdated because of the election, but it makes the important point that there are Democrats who will continually try to “nullify every single state and local law that fights illegal immigration.”

No, I guess

kestrel (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 4:07PM EDT (link)

I never could speak for you, could I. Happy Duct-Tape-Free New Year, Becker!

No problem kestrel.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 5:48PM EDT (link)

The folks to whom the debt is owed would be AZ State Sen. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, and Kansas attorney and newly elected Secretary of State Kris Kobach. They are the ones who drafted the legislation and who got it through the AZ legislature.

With respect to Brewer, she took no opportunity to have ANY input into the legislation, spent exactly zero effort and zero political capital getting it passed (I can’t find where she said one word about it as pending legislation) and after it passed, no one knew until she actually signed the bill whether she would sign it or veto it. Her handlers read the tea leaves and told her that if she wanted to come in better than fourth in the Republican Primary she’d better sign the bill. She did do a good job of reading her lines after she signed it, but her performance up to that point was pathetic.

As a side note, Pearce and company are going to offer legislation this year (as in next month) banning birthright citizenship for children of illegals. Up to form, Brewer hasn’t had a word to say on the subject.

Change

Oh, and a very Happy New Year to you as well. :-) nt

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 5:49PM EDT (link)

Thanks, Becker

kestrel (Diary) Sunday, January 2nd at 9:42PM EDT (link)

and I appreciate the on-the-ground info. So… Russell Pearce and Kris Kobach. My personal list of new names of “people to watch” is growing rapidly. I wonder what the Republican political landscape will look like in a few years. Better and better with every election, is my guess.

Pearce is pretty much of a local phenom, he's not

mbecker908 (Diary) Sunday, January 2nd at 9:55PM EDT (link)

going to make much of a splash outside of Arizona with the exception of the reaction to the laws he’s able to get through the legislature.

Kobach, OTOH, is a mover an shaker. He’s the guy to watch.

Change

 
 
 

Sorry to have left out Pearce and Kobach as heroes.

bobmontgomery (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 8:29PM EDT (link)

Don’t pretend to have all the details of AZ politics at hand. Don’t live in AZ. My only point was I thought the preferred position was securing the border first and dealing with the finer points of E-verity, et cetera as a long-term strategy. Nobody had mentioned that people are still getting killed down there, not the least of which are border patrol agents. Brewer may not be a hero, but I recall she was pilloried for talking about people getting their heads cut off out there and it wasn’t a few weeks later that somebody got their head cut off out there. I recall her standing by a sign out in the desert saying Americans probably shouldn’t be in that part of America. Maybe that’s not doing squat, but it caught my attention, back here in the midwest.
And happy and productive New Year to both of you, and all of you.

If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington

No problem Bob.

mbecker908 (Diary) Friday, December 31st at 10:10PM EDT (link)

You gotta be an AZ geek to know that stuff :-) .

Your point is well taken. However, it’s problematic because it takes the feds to really “seal” the border. They won’t, for at least two more years. That leaves us with “practical solutions” and eV is one of those and a real bomb if we can find a way to use it. When the original eV requirement for hiring in AZ was passed several years ago we had our first wave of evacuation from AZ to elsewhere. Unfortunately, the penalties aren’t severe enough to entice the state to enforce the law. Ratchet up the penalties – like make hiring an illegal a felony and it will change the face of employment.

With reference to Brewer, I apologize because I’ve written about her so much here and elsewhere I think everybody just knows. As I noted, she did a good job of reading her lines after she signed SB1070. Whether she believes a word of it is another matter. But she did get nationwide attention and caught your attention – and that was her real purpose of her signing it. It got her reelected and just before she signed it she was sinking fast in a four way primary.

Brewer is a problem for Arizonans. She’s good publicity for the immigration issue on a national stage though.

Have a fantastic New Year. We’ll no doubt be chatting a lot.

Change

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aesthete (Diary) Saturday, January 1st at 1:36AM EDT (link)

I do think that Smith will turn out to be one of the unsung heroes of immigration enforcement if this thing pans out.

“It is a popular delusion that the government wastes vast amounts of money through inefficiency and sloth. Enormous effort and elaborate planning are required to waste this much money.”
-P.J. O’Rourke