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		<title>By: ohiohistorian</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/2011/05/01/the-debt-ceiling-really-doesnt-matter/#comment-4687</link>
		<dc:creator>ohiohistorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 22:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They appear to be sitting on a mountain of credit, if you believe the credit card offers you get every day.  They benefited from the Obama part of the TARP spending.  They went to the party, so they can stay to clean up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They appear to be sitting on a mountain of credit, if you believe the credit card offers you get every day.  They benefited from the Obama part of the TARP spending.  They went to the party, so they can stay to clean up.</p>
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		<title>By: ohiohistorian</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/2011/05/01/the-debt-ceiling-really-doesnt-matter/#comment-4686</link>
		<dc:creator>ohiohistorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 22:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Control the borrowing, and there is cash for companies to borrow.   Qualitative easing 1 and 2 put about a trillion excess cash into the economy.  What will happen when the other money starts to come back in is that inflation takes off.  The government spending has actually been shown to contract the economy over the last 16 or so months.  Keynesian has demonstrated that it fails every time it is tried, just like liberalism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Control the borrowing, and there is cash for companies to borrow.   Qualitative easing 1 and 2 put about a trillion excess cash into the economy.  What will happen when the other money starts to come back in is that inflation takes off.  The government spending has actually been shown to contract the economy over the last 16 or so months.  Keynesian has demonstrated that it fails every time it is tried, just like liberalism.</p>
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		<title>By: YnotNOW</title>
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		<dc:creator>YnotNOW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 21:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, each of these will take legislation, and therefore time to pass. 

Second, all of these account for only 25-20% of expenditures - so if you cut all of them 100% you are still billions away from balancing the budget.  

So, yes, cut some agencies 100%, combine, reduce their scope.  But that&#039;s only part of the answer.  

I&#039;ll dream of 2013, while making meaningful but realistic cuts now.  And that will require raising the debt ceiling (just not as much as the Dems will ask for).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, each of these will take legislation, and therefore time to pass. </p>
<p>Second, all of these account for only 25-20% of expenditures &#8211; so if you cut all of them 100% you are still billions away from balancing the budget.  </p>
<p>So, yes, cut some agencies 100%, combine, reduce their scope.  But that&#8217;s only part of the answer.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll dream of 2013, while making meaningful but realistic cuts now.  And that will require raising the debt ceiling (just not as much as the Dems will ask for).</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 14:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You need to start selling what you have to cover the interest before they start taking things by force.

I keep saying that we need to start being a net exporter of oil.
We don&#039;t need to become Brazil&#039;s best customer. 
The left keeps saying we need to wean ourselves off of fossils fuels.
I am all for conservative and research into other forms of energy.
I am not into the Federal Government giving away billions to their
buddies in the &quot;green&quot; energy sector.

America needs to quit borrowing and start selling.

China, India &amp; the rest of the world is laughing at America and it&#039;s &quot;green&quot;
view.  Fossil fuels will be around for hundreds of years and will be the bridge to get us to the &quot;next&quot; source of energy. Why not take what we have,
become energy independent and then become the biggest competitor to OPEC?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to start selling what you have to cover the interest before they start taking things by force.</p>
<p>I keep saying that we need to start being a net exporter of oil.<br />
We don&#8217;t need to become Brazil&#8217;s best customer.<br />
The left keeps saying we need to wean ourselves off of fossils fuels.<br />
I am all for conservative and research into other forms of energy.<br />
I am not into the Federal Government giving away billions to their<br />
buddies in the &#8220;green&#8221; energy sector.</p>
<p>America needs to quit borrowing and start selling.</p>
<p>China, India &amp; the rest of the world is laughing at America and it&#8217;s &#8220;green&#8221;<br />
view.  Fossil fuels will be around for hundreds of years and will be the bridge to get us to the &#8220;next&#8221; source of energy. Why not take what we have,<br />
become energy independent and then become the biggest competitor to OPEC?</p>
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		<title>By: kestrel</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/2011/05/01/the-debt-ceiling-really-doesnt-matter/#comment-4682</link>
		<dc:creator>kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 00:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[40% across the board.  We can cut more in some places and less in others.  For example, cut the EPA, Dept of Ed, and other malignant agencies by 100%!  Yes, I&#039;m dreaming of 2013 now, but you get the idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40% across the board.  We can cut more in some places and less in others.  For example, cut the EPA, Dept of Ed, and other malignant agencies by 100%!  Yes, I&#8217;m dreaming of 2013 now, but you get the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: conservativecurmudgeon</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/2011/05/01/the-debt-ceiling-really-doesnt-matter/#comment-4681</link>
		<dc:creator>conservativecurmudgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 03:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Devalue and destroy the currency. This is the obvious endgame of all of this. We have somewhere between $55 Trillion and $100 Trillion in unfunded public liabilities. And, if those liabilities of yesterday can be paid with vastly diluted dollars of today, well, yippee, problem solved, right? The $60 billion dollar shortfall, for example, that LBJ racked up by the end of the 1960&#039;s with Medicare, and Medicaid seem like dripspittle in the gigantic ocean of public debt we are drowning in today.

We are in the midst of a Mexico-style devaluation, only we are doing it in the shadows and through the super-baggy pants monetary policy that was so well explained above. This diary entry is a sober, sober warning about how TRULY close we are to the brink, and when we careen over it, it is astonishing to know that most won&#039;t know we are in free-fall, and they won&#039;t know the reason.

And what did all of this spending get us, anyway?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devalue and destroy the currency. This is the obvious endgame of all of this. We have somewhere between $55 Trillion and $100 Trillion in unfunded public liabilities. And, if those liabilities of yesterday can be paid with vastly diluted dollars of today, well, yippee, problem solved, right? The $60 billion dollar shortfall, for example, that LBJ racked up by the end of the 1960&#8242;s with Medicare, and Medicaid seem like dripspittle in the gigantic ocean of public debt we are drowning in today.</p>
<p>We are in the midst of a Mexico-style devaluation, only we are doing it in the shadows and through the super-baggy pants monetary policy that was so well explained above. This diary entry is a sober, sober warning about how TRULY close we are to the brink, and when we careen over it, it is astonishing to know that most won&#8217;t know we are in free-fall, and they won&#8217;t know the reason.</p>
<p>And what did all of this spending get us, anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: YnotNOW</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/2011/05/01/the-debt-ceiling-really-doesnt-matter/#comment-4680</link>
		<dc:creator>YnotNOW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 22:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[40% cut in Defense, while we&#039;re in 3 wars - disaster to national security and an affront to our brave servicemen and women. 
40% cut in payments on national debt?  We&#039;re trying to avoid default by prioritizing these paymnets, so this CANNOT be cut, and the $$ savings would have to be made up for elsewhere
40% cut in Social Security payments?  That would have to be to CURRENT retiree paychecks.  No way that is going to happen.  Cuts to SS will be in longer-term and require major changes in laws to happen. 
40% cut in Medicare and Medicaid?  Same as SS. 
40% cut in discretionary spending?  This is the only area where deep cuts can be made quickly, but they account for only 30% of overall spending.  

So the ceiling will have to be raised, sooner or later (timing is subject to the whims of Geitner&#039;s team).  But the point is that we have to make progress on major cuts - some now and more in the future - or we will continue past the debt of no return.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40% cut in Defense, while we&#8217;re in 3 wars &#8211; disaster to national security and an affront to our brave servicemen and women.<br />
40% cut in payments on national debt?  We&#8217;re trying to avoid default by prioritizing these paymnets, so this CANNOT be cut, and the $$ savings would have to be made up for elsewhere<br />
40% cut in Social Security payments?  That would have to be to CURRENT retiree paychecks.  No way that is going to happen.  Cuts to SS will be in longer-term and require major changes in laws to happen.<br />
40% cut in Medicare and Medicaid?  Same as SS.<br />
40% cut in discretionary spending?  This is the only area where deep cuts can be made quickly, but they account for only 30% of overall spending.  </p>
<p>So the ceiling will have to be raised, sooner or later (timing is subject to the whims of Geitner&#8217;s team).  But the point is that we have to make progress on major cuts &#8211; some now and more in the future &#8211; or we will continue past the debt of no return.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 18:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the average American would never see the difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the average American would never see the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: kestrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 18:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Eventually, we will need to raise the debt limit.&quot;  And Toomey states: &quot;absent an increase in the debt limit, the resulting sudden, drastic spending cuts would be very disruptive and undesirable.&quot;

But I have a sneaking suspicion the disruption would occur mostly in fat city, Washington D.C.  ?  the only place in the country that is booming, having added 98,000 government jobs since January 2008 (not including census workers) while the private sector has lost 7.2 million jobs in the same period.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/255951/has-government-grown-recession-started-veronique-de-rugy&quot;&gt;Source of statistics&lt;/a&gt;.

Failing to raise the debt ceiling would necessitate cuts of approximately 40 percent, but since the government has grown by 36 percent just since 2007, how difficult could this be (apart from the lack of political will)?  I&#039;m not saying it would be a piece of cake, but it may be better than alternatives, especially ones that open us to treachery.  Human Events columnist John Hayward &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=43257&quot;&gt;discusses&lt;/a&gt; some of the suggested reforms that Republicans could require in exchange for raising the debt ceiling, and adds: 

&lt;blockquote&gt; Marco Rubio called for some highly laudable reforms that have very little chance of getting through Congress, including some that require amending the Constitution.  Even if all of these reforms passed, forcing this out-of-control government to obey them would be a never-ending battle.  It?s much simpler to get where he wants to go by leaving the debt ceiling in place ? one epic vote that would compel the federal government to begin the painful process of living within its means, right now.  
 &lt;/blockquote&gt;

As usual, government will purposefully make the cuts or delay of payments as visible and painful to the citizenry as possible, in order to bully the taxpayers into re-opening the purse, but the public is wise to this tactic.  Here&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/02/wayne_county_executive_robert_1.html&quot;&gt;local example&lt;/a&gt;:  When a county road director dragged his feet in clearing snow for the second time this past winter, whining that his budget had been cut by 40 percent over seven years, the county executive fired him and sought a replacement who could get the job done with the resources provided.  End of story.  People are sick of bullying, self-serving government.

To prepare for the storm, Congress should pass legislation to prioritize spending, such as paying interest on the debt first (HR 421) to prevent default, then let Harry Reid explain why he won&#039;t pass this bill -- the Full Faith and Credit Act.  Republicans can also pass whatever other protections they deem necessary (for guidance, look at Geithner&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/05/02/u-s-to-take-extraordinary-steps-as-it-nears-debt-ceiling/?KEYWORDS=debt+ceiling&quot;&gt;threats&lt;/a&gt;:  ?  military salaries, Social Security and Medicare payments, interest on the debt and unemployment benefits).  Then let the foot-dragging Harry Reid explain why he and Obama want to retain the power to hurt people as much as possible.  Then, for elected Republicans (and wise Democrats, if there is such a thing), tie yourselves to the ship&#039;s mast, pray, and weather the storm.  The rainbow will be glorious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Eventually, we will need to raise the debt limit.&#8221;  And Toomey states: &#8220;absent an increase in the debt limit, the resulting sudden, drastic spending cuts would be very disruptive and undesirable.&#8221;</p>
<p>But I have a sneaking suspicion the disruption would occur mostly in fat city, Washington D.C.  ?  the only place in the country that is booming, having added 98,000 government jobs since January 2008 (not including census workers) while the private sector has lost 7.2 million jobs in the same period.  <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/255951/has-government-grown-recession-started-veronique-de-rugy">Source of statistics</a>.</p>
<p>Failing to raise the debt ceiling would necessitate cuts of approximately 40 percent, but since the government has grown by 36 percent just since 2007, how difficult could this be (apart from the lack of political will)?  I&#8217;m not saying it would be a piece of cake, but it may be better than alternatives, especially ones that open us to treachery.  Human Events columnist John Hayward <a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=43257">discusses</a> some of the suggested reforms that Republicans could require in exchange for raising the debt ceiling, and adds: </p>
<blockquote><p> Marco Rubio called for some highly laudable reforms that have very little chance of getting through Congress, including some that require amending the Constitution.  Even if all of these reforms passed, forcing this out-of-control government to obey them would be a never-ending battle.  It?s much simpler to get where he wants to go by leaving the debt ceiling in place ? one epic vote that would compel the federal government to begin the painful process of living within its means, right now.
 </p></blockquote>
<p>As usual, government will purposefully make the cuts or delay of payments as visible and painful to the citizenry as possible, in order to bully the taxpayers into re-opening the purse, but the public is wise to this tactic.  Here&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/02/wayne_county_executive_robert_1.html">local example</a>:  When a county road director dragged his feet in clearing snow for the second time this past winter, whining that his budget had been cut by 40 percent over seven years, the county executive fired him and sought a replacement who could get the job done with the resources provided.  End of story.  People are sick of bullying, self-serving government.</p>
<p>To prepare for the storm, Congress should pass legislation to prioritize spending, such as paying interest on the debt first (HR 421) to prevent default, then let Harry Reid explain why he won&#8217;t pass this bill &#8212; the Full Faith and Credit Act.  Republicans can also pass whatever other protections they deem necessary (for guidance, look at Geithner&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/05/02/u-s-to-take-extraordinary-steps-as-it-nears-debt-ceiling/?KEYWORDS=debt+ceiling">threats</a>:  ?  military salaries, Social Security and Medicare payments, interest on the debt and unemployment benefits).  Then let the foot-dragging Harry Reid explain why he and Obama want to retain the power to hurt people as much as possible.  Then, for elected Republicans (and wise Democrats, if there is such a thing), tie yourselves to the ship&#8217;s mast, pray, and weather the storm.  The rainbow will be glorious.</p>
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		<title>By: carolina</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 22:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: earlgrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlgrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 20:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it a shot.  He is a &quot;reluctant candidate&quot; which may be what we need.  Someone who will run the country based on what will be best for the country not based on what will get him re-elected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it a shot.  He is a &#8220;reluctant candidate&#8221; which may be what we need.  Someone who will run the country based on what will be best for the country not based on what will get him re-elected.</p>
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		<title>By: Common_Cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common_Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 19:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s much about timing and expectations.  Who wants to inherit the rotten Obama hot potato that is ready to explode?  I&#039;d rather come in after when expectations are low.  Especially true for Republicans that don&#039;t have the left wing media on their side.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s much about timing and expectations.  Who wants to inherit the rotten Obama hot potato that is ready to explode?  I&#8217;d rather come in after when expectations are low.  Especially true for Republicans that don&#8217;t have the left wing media on their side.</p>
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		<title>By: YnotNOW</title>
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		<dc:creator>YnotNOW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 18:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are not quite at Bankruptcy yet, but the amount of debt we are accumulating is sending warning signals.  If we do not heed those warning signals, then the financial collapse will come at some unknown time in the future - and maybe not that far off.  

My analysis is that MBecker&#039;s projection of June is overly alarmist.  We are selling bonds at a rate that will advance cash to the government to last us past that point.  Certainly, interest rates will need to rise - probably around June.  And this will have impact throughout the economic &quot;recovery&quot; and push us toward Stagflation.  Depressing yet again the tax revenue via slow economic growth.  But only a little bit.  

It is yet another warning signal.  That we must heed, via deep cuts in spending in the current (FY 2012 budget) and future (entitlement reform) plans, to reassure the financial markets of our creditworthiness, as well as the entire business community.  

If we don&#039;t, then MBecker&#039;s projection will come true.  Just a little further into the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not quite at Bankruptcy yet, but the amount of debt we are accumulating is sending warning signals.  If we do not heed those warning signals, then the financial collapse will come at some unknown time in the future &#8211; and maybe not that far off.  </p>
<p>My analysis is that MBecker&#8217;s projection of June is overly alarmist.  We are selling bonds at a rate that will advance cash to the government to last us past that point.  Certainly, interest rates will need to rise &#8211; probably around June.  And this will have impact throughout the economic &#8220;recovery&#8221; and push us toward Stagflation.  Depressing yet again the tax revenue via slow economic growth.  But only a little bit.  </p>
<p>It is yet another warning signal.  That we must heed, via deep cuts in spending in the current (FY 2012 budget) and future (entitlement reform) plans, to reassure the financial markets of our creditworthiness, as well as the entire business community.  </p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t, then MBecker&#8217;s projection will come true.  Just a little further into the future.</p>
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		<title>By: YnotNOW</title>
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		<dc:creator>YnotNOW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eventually, we will need to raise the debt limit, but we should not do so until we have enacted real spending cuts and reforms to the structural process that has gotten us into this fiscal mess. The most irresponsible thing we can do is raise the debt limit with no strings attached and continue the usual overspending in Washington. 
Sen. Pat Toomey (R., Pa.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eventually, we will need to raise the debt limit, but we should not do so until we have enacted real spending cuts and reforms to the structural process that has gotten us into this fiscal mess. The most irresponsible thing we can do is raise the debt limit with no strings attached and continue the usual overspending in Washington.<br />
Sen. Pat Toomey (R., Pa.)</p>
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		<title>By: kestrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 02:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...along with this one:  &quot;After QE2 ends in (late) June... the shortage of buyers may tempt the government to force banks into buying the debt, similar to the way they forced banks to make bad housing loans.&quot;

Common Cents explained that Bernake&#039;s unstated intent is &quot;to recapitalize the big banks on the backs of savers and inflation.&quot;  And that instead of making money available &quot;to small/regional banks to loan to small/med businesses, the economic engine of America... taxpayer money is being funneled to big money elites sloshing billions around in various assets, inflating prices, *recycling the money into treasuries* so the govt elites can spend even more.&quot;

Mark Levin was talking in a similar vein recently, and made the point that if the money is not *willingly* being converted into T bonds, the government may quietly compel it.  He said that in the business world, this is known as economic or financial repression, but of course the government won&#039;t openly call it that.  We are headed for serious trouble.

I&#039;m hoping that we can prevent a QE3 and an artificially propped up bond market by not raising the debt ceiling. (Or maybe by only raising the debt limit in such small increments that the bond market won&#039;t become glutted?)  The government can&#039;t issue more bonds for auction if, or to the extent that, we don&#039;t raise the debt ceiling, can it?

As I see it, controlling the debt ceiling may be our best means of limiting the damage that Obama can do in the next year and a half.  And we are WINNING the debt ceiling war!  I hope to say more tomorrow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;along with this one:  &#8220;After QE2 ends in (late) June&#8230; the shortage of buyers may tempt the government to force banks into buying the debt, similar to the way they forced banks to make bad housing loans.&#8221;</p>
<p>Common Cents explained that Bernake&#8217;s unstated intent is &#8220;to recapitalize the big banks on the backs of savers and inflation.&#8221;  And that instead of making money available &#8220;to small/regional banks to loan to small/med businesses, the economic engine of America&#8230; taxpayer money is being funneled to big money elites sloshing billions around in various assets, inflating prices, *recycling the money into treasuries* so the govt elites can spend even more.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mark Levin was talking in a similar vein recently, and made the point that if the money is not *willingly* being converted into T bonds, the government may quietly compel it.  He said that in the business world, this is known as economic or financial repression, but of course the government won&#8217;t openly call it that.  We are headed for serious trouble.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m hoping that we can prevent a QE3 and an artificially propped up bond market by not raising the debt ceiling. (Or maybe by only raising the debt limit in such small increments that the bond market won&#8217;t become glutted?)  The government can&#8217;t issue more bonds for auction if, or to the extent that, we don&#8217;t raise the debt ceiling, can it?</p>
<p>As I see it, controlling the debt ceiling may be our best means of limiting the damage that Obama can do in the next year and a half.  And we are WINNING the debt ceiling war!  I hope to say more tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 01:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is whether or not, or at what price, we&#039;re going to be able to sell our debt.

The T auctions could cause a complete meltdown of the government if the federal reserve does as they&#039;ve said they would and quit participating and nobody picks up the slack.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is whether or not, or at what price, we&#8217;re going to be able to sell our debt.</p>
<p>The T auctions could cause a complete meltdown of the government if the federal reserve does as they&#8217;ve said they would and quit participating and nobody picks up the slack.</p>
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		<title>By: kestrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>kestrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 01:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nor do we have to.  Please read &lt;a href=&quot;http://thehayride.com/2011/04/brit-hume-its-not-necessarily-a-catastrophe-if-the-debt-ceiling-isnt-raised/&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and also Senator Pat Toomey&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/04/22/the_truth_about_the_debt_ceiling_and_default_109633.html&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; &quot;The Truth About the Debt Ceiling and Default.&quot;  As for this being a &quot;silly scare tactic,&quot; this is only the case if a person is making or implying threats that he is unwilling to carry out.  Let us fortify our side, including as Rep. Tom McClintock suggests in the link.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nor do we have to.  Please read <a href="http://thehayride.com/2011/04/brit-hume-its-not-necessarily-a-catastrophe-if-the-debt-ceiling-isnt-raised/">this</a> and also Senator Pat Toomey&#8217;s <a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/04/22/the_truth_about_the_debt_ceiling_and_default_109633.html">article</a> &#8220;The Truth About the Debt Ceiling and Default.&#8221;  As for this being a &#8220;silly scare tactic,&#8221; this is only the case if a person is making or implying threats that he is unwilling to carry out.  Let us fortify our side, including as Rep. Tom McClintock suggests in the link.</p>
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		<title>By: d_lamar</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/mbecker908/2011/05/01/the-debt-ceiling-really-doesnt-matter/#comment-4657</link>
		<dc:creator>d_lamar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 22:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with mbecker.  I don&#039;t think there is any conceivable set of financial circumstances where the USA can avoid bankruptcy.  The debt service on $14T is too large, and without substantial cuts in Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare, there is no conceivable way that bankruptcy or default can be avoided.

We all know that the dems will not cut anything, and the GOP will not touch the entitlements.  So in a word, we&#039;re doomed.

The real question is when the defaults hit, how do the republicans avoid the media, and dems whining about how they destroyed the economy.  I predict that they can&#039;t avoid any blame, especially when they can correctly be shown to have repeatedly voted to increase the government&#039;s borrowing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with mbecker.  I don&#8217;t think there is any conceivable set of financial circumstances where the USA can avoid bankruptcy.  The debt service on $14T is too large, and without substantial cuts in Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare, there is no conceivable way that bankruptcy or default can be avoided.</p>
<p>We all know that the dems will not cut anything, and the GOP will not touch the entitlements.  So in a word, we&#8217;re doomed.</p>
<p>The real question is when the defaults hit, how do the republicans avoid the media, and dems whining about how they destroyed the economy.  I predict that they can&#8217;t avoid any blame, especially when they can correctly be shown to have repeatedly voted to increase the government&#8217;s borrowing.</p>
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		<title>By: mbecker908</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbecker908</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 21:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We just bought a 7 quart crock pot.  Yesterday I grabbed a 15 bean mixture at Sprouts, some diced spiced tomatos, garlic, onion, lemon and I&#039;ve got about a two pounds of ham with the bone left over from Easter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just bought a 7 quart crock pot.  Yesterday I grabbed a 15 bean mixture at Sprouts, some diced spiced tomatos, garlic, onion, lemon and I&#8217;ve got about a two pounds of ham with the bone left over from Easter.</p>
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		<title>By: davenj1</title>
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		<dc:creator>davenj1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 20:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oil and, thus, gasoline prices are going through the ceiling.  Agree the debt ceiling scare tactic is silly since we are already defaulting on our obligations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oil and, thus, gasoline prices are going through the ceiling.  Agree the debt ceiling scare tactic is silly since we are already defaulting on our obligations.</p>
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