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Just in case you’ve forgotten what an honorable President looks like…

By: mbecker908 (Diary)  |  July 8th, 2012 at 01:18 PM  | 

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It’s no secret I was not a fan of George W Bush’s domestic policies or a bunch of other stuff. But I’ve always held him up as a fantastic example of good man, a caring human being and I expect he’ll easily be remembered as our best “former-President”.

Here’s the latest example of his humanity and please hang in there until the end, it’s not long.

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  • thethinman

    You want an honorable George – try George Washington. I don’t consider George Bush, the first one or the second one, to be “honorable” men. and the second one is more problematical than the first. He is a crappy gambler that doesn’t know when to take the money he’s won and leave the table. His war policies led directly to the election of Obama.

    I would call Ronald Reagan the last honorable President. John Adams, his son John Quincy Adams among the truly Honorable Presidents. And while I truly think Thomas Jefferson was a great man – I’m not so sure about his being all that “honorable”.

    There are a whole lot that leave a bad taste in your mouth – particularly some of the most revered like Abraham Lincoln. In my lifetime, there has been Nixon, Clinton, Carter, and now Obama that rank way down to the bottom of the pot.

    • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

      saying

    • aesthete

      I’m far from a fan, but GWB did bring a decorum to the office that was highly lacking in the Clinton (and now the Obama) Presidency.

      • wintermute

        Bush 2 administration did a ton of stuff that just enraged me, but little did I know how an Obama admin would make me nostalgic for the days of 500 billion dollar budget deficits. :(

    • barleycorn

      What did GWB do that makes him a dishonorable man? All humans at some point do things that are not honorable but a few mistakes don’t equate to a dishonorable life. None of us is perfect. We all fall short of the glory of God.

      Give us some examples that render GWB a dishonorable man.

      Hint: The following opinions are not examples of dis-honorableness:

      “He is a crappy gambler that doesn?t know when to take the money he?s won and leave the table. His war policies led directly to the election of Obama.”

      • withaplum

        “honorableness” from “job performance” than Barack Obama is honorable. After all he has a strong marriage and loves his kids. Jimmy Carter was honorable under this rubric.

        If you can be a terrible president and leave the country worse off in many ways, but still be counted as honorable, then the term is pretty much meaningless.

        Under GWB the deficit exploded and the power of the federal government grew, while the power of the executive branch within the federal government also grew, both in direct opposition to conservative constitutional principles. But yeah, he’s honorable all right.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

          The man reeks of dishonor and has since Day One, when he returned a post-911 Churchill bust solidarity gift from the Brits.

        • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

          later

        • checkmate2012

          O is honorable if you separate him from his job but, “If you can be a terrible president and leave the country worse off in many ways, but still be counted as honorable”.

          Judge both men on both fronts, job and family, or both on either job or family, but you chose to cherry pick.

          And fyi, GWB was an honorable person and president that loves this country and O doesn’t. There is nothing honorable about O as he is a liart.

          GWB did raise the debt too much but facts are stubborn and as of 1/31/12:

          Debt under GWB for 8 years: $4.9 Trillion; 86% increase
          Debt under BHO for 3 years: $4.73 Trillion; 45% increase

          If you took O’s average/year times 8 yrs, his would be $12.6T!

          Source: http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/dueling-debt-deceptions/

          • rightlane1111

            GWB gave us Chief Justice Roberts and Roberts…rewrote the mistakes in Obamacare so that we would all have to abide by it. What the heck is that about. Was his opinion on BOTH Arizona and Obamacare…CONSERVATIVE? Please help me out on this one. Someone…please explain this…Roberts looks like a Benedict Arnold.

            Further to the point…read it and weap

            **
            Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to
            all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.

            **
            Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an
            individual’s bank account and will have the authority to make
            electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

            **
            Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the
            government) for all union members, union retirees and for
            community organizations (such as the Association
            of Community Organizations for Reform Now -
            ACORN).

            **
            Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section
            will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their
            right mind come up with that?)

            **
            Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same
            regardless of specialty, and the government will set all
            doctors’ fees.

            **
            Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care
            according to the patient’s age.

            **
            Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on
            hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an
            exception.

            **
            Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care
            planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be
            required to attend an “end-of-life planning” seminar every five
            years. (Death counseling..)
            i
            **
            Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify
            which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

            Oh…and one more thing…W did not know how to use the VETO pen.

          • checkmate2012

            The man will be blamed if O gets re-elected too I guess and for the European crisis and and how about for the drought. And whatever else ails the world.

            CJ Roberts is a traitor but how was Bush to know this 7 years ago? My guess is he gave us sound rulings before this year. I blame O for his decisions lately and think he got his arm severly twisted or threatened since it’s clear he changed his decision.

          • poorwilber

            Who really cares about Bush’s legacy, after imploding the GoP in 2006 and 2008 with Government expansion and entitlement spending that would make LBJ blush, a neocon nation building foriegn policy that has drained our resourses (while continuing longer than the Vietnam War), and attempting to foist an amnesty bill down our throats….while NOT securing the border.

            You can easily lay the rise of Democrats and Obama at his feet.

            In fact, Bush is so honorable, that he will not speak out against the current socialist in the White House. I’m as impressed with his sense of honor as you apparently are.

        • barleycorn

          We don’t have to separate “honorableness” from “job performance” any more than we have to separate “honorableness” from sex appeal. They are two different metrics.

          Furthermore “Hitler loved his dog” stories don’t make a man honorable. Mr. Obama may be 100% faithful to his wife and love his daughters dearly but he’s still a scalawag and a narcissistic dilettante.

          Jimmy Carter? Honorable? The man’s a caviling fool who fiddled while Rome burned. Carter, Clinton, and Obama all three brought discredit to America and sought political advantage from same. No, those three have no honor.

        • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

          if you can use the word in the same sentence with “Obama”.

          Obama has consistently spent his life lying and puffing himself up. GWB has consistently avoided that.

          I was not fond of his performance in office, but he is absolutely a good and honorable man. Barack Obama is neither.

          Oh, and you’re a complete jackass.

          • withaplum

            you feel that tone is necessary, but that’s okay.

            I may have a fundamental misunderstanding of what honor is, although you haven’t defined how you are using it in this case.

            In my view both GWB and BHO have hurt the country in their respective terms of office. We can argue about the various degrees, but its my opinion that both were/are bad at the job of being president, both in terms of policy and in terms of managing the executive branch.

            Both acted (or are acting) to increase the size of the federal government, and the size of the executive branch within the federal government. Now, I realize that not everyone cares about this issue but this happens to be one of my personal hobby horses so it means a great deal to me.

            Both acted to increase the federal deficit and the federal debt. This is also a very important issue to me personally.

            And in many ways, its even MORE dangerous when a Republican or a “conservative” acts this way because of the way it neuters conservative opposition. GWB’s spending increases made it much harder for republicans to oppose BHO’s spending increases.

            If GWB was currently a senator, I think a lot of people would be calling him a RINO and calling for a primary challenger.

            I’m not sure where you draw the line. I’m not sure exactly how bad a president can be and still fall into the honorable category on your rubric.

            I do know that conservatives and republicans are going to need to show a LOT more backbone if (and hopefully when) Romney becomes president than they did under GWB.

          • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

            And if you can’t figure out why I have no truck with idiots, that’s your problem.

            You are a completely out of touch, whiny jerk.

            I’d be happy to deconstruct this piece of crap you call a “comment”, but I don’t have time and you couldn’t understand it anyway.

            Buzz off.

          • withaplum

            You are obviously the kind of person who responds more emotionally to these issues, or rather are more emotionally driven. I tend to see things in slightly more rational, logical terms.

            Obviously we need both. The actual issues tend to be rather dry and boring, so its important to have people who respond and speak in emotional terms in order to reach out to other people who think this way.

          • Ned Reck

            I was havin’ an especially horrible, stressful, and seriously intense day… and you had to come along and spoil it. Made me laugh at loud.

            Ned

          • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

            :-)

    • Tbone

      You seem to be awfully judgmental for a half witted fool that would make this statement;

      “His war policies led directly to the election of Obama.”

      What led to the election of Obama was the Republicans picking the mentally incontinent McCain who couldn’t have run a worse campaign.

      • emptybucket

        remember after it was over McCain spouting off and intimating he really didn’t think he’d win anyway. That was his attitude, IMHO, for the complete campaign. Need to see if I can find an online video of that as I’m learning that on RS an honorable person presents facts with proof if at all possible. That’s what makes it such a great place.

      • aesthete

        He wants his misplaced confidence in Dear Leader back.

        Do you really think that GWB would have won that election, if he had been allowed to run for a third term?

        • garfieldjl

          Yes, despite Bush’s unpopularity, his campaign staff would have been forcing the spotlight on Obama’s history. I honestly think McCain’s campaign staff wanted Obama to win, because they sure as heck didn’t give it their all.

          • http://libertynews.com/ mbecker908

            You are totally ignorant about GWB’s campaign organization. He would most likely say nary a word about Obama’s history, he took a 100% pass on John Kerry’s treason and said repeatedly that he had no problem with Kerry’s service. He also avoided Kerry’s record in the Senate.

            Had it not been for the SwiftVets, John Kerry would have been elected President in 2004 by a wide margin.

          • davenj1

            he might have brought up Obama’s history. More to the point, YES the SwiftBoat advertisements were the nail in Kerry’s coffin. And even more to the point, when it comes to be honorable, Bush is light years ahead of Obama. Despite the Bush shortcomings listed here, I believe that there are some similarities between him and Truman (I know it sounds weird), but Truman left office a fairly unpopular person yet history has treated him better than the view in 1952. I think when the definitive biography of Dubya is written years from now, he will not be the idiot many people make him to be and he will certainly be portaryed as an HONORABLE man.

          • checkmate2012

            is honerable and treated the office with dignity. We will all agree that we didn’t like all his policies, but he did do much good after 9/11.

            I’ll say I would not have wanted a Dem in office during/after 9/11. Bush was like a laser on that and didn’t do enough domestically but his mind was elsewhere, as in keeping America safe. I won’t damn him for that.

        • Tbone

          You do this silly stuff all the time of putting words into some one else’s mouth and then arguing against the stuff you made up.

          McCain could have beaten Obama if he would have run against Obama instead of as a former POW old fart whose only advantage was a VP pick that made he, Obama and Biden look like the dummies in the race.

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