Republican Jewish Coalition Bans Ron Paul From Debate: “Inviting Paul Would Be Like Inviting Obama to Speak”

By: mikeymike143 (Diary) | December 3rd, 2011 at 12:16 PM |

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In fact, Ron Paul’s foreign policy is even to the left of Barack Obama’s.

The Republican Jewish Congress will ban Ron Paul from their debate next week. They say he’s just too far outside of the mainstream of the Republican party.
Reason.com reported:

On Wednesday, Dec. 7, the Republican Jewish Coalition will host a presidential-candidates forum featuring Michele Bachmann, Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, and Rick Santorum. Not invited is the GOP candidate currently polling around third in New Hampshire and second in Iowa: Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas). The explanation:

Paul was not invited to attend the RJC’s candidates forum because the organization – as it has stated numerous times in the past – “rejects his misguided and extreme views,” said [RJC Executive Director Matt] Brooks.

“He’s just so far outside of the mainstream of the Republican party and this organization,” Brooks said. Inviting Paul to attend would be “like inviting Barack Obama to speak.”

Maybe the fact that Ron Paul believes that Israel encouraged and started Hamas had something to do with today’s announcement?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/republican-jewish-coalition-bans-ron-paul-from-debate-inviting-paul-would-be-like-inviting-obama-to-speak/

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tomatin

Of course Paul is a huge anti-semite to start with.

Paul is actually anti-American on foreign policy as well. He won’t fight for American interests around the world. His foreign policy would be the same as Socialist Europe’s malaise. Let someone else secure the world and reap all the benefits from it. The only problem is if the US disengages from the world the only countries that could take it’s place is China and authoritarian dictatorship. Does Paul seriously think when they take over international security they would act as judiciously as the US has for decades. The cost to the American economy would be immeasurable.

mikeymike143

thank god that this nutcase won’t make it anywhere near the white house.

mikeymike143

If he were alive today, Ronald Reagan would STRONGLY OPPOSE Ron Paul. Reagan believed in spending generously on our national defense and certainly had an interventionist foreign policy. And according to the Ron

devereaux

You’re old enough to remember the Reagan Adm.

Ron Paul’s Reaganesque Foreign Policy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjwaExW6-Fg

rexblade

So where are these huge benefits you are speaking of? By benefits did you mean the military industrial complex? Because I don’t really see anyone else benefiting from the empire game.

nathanalbright

…you get to choose which people represent acceptable views when you host a debate, and Ron Paul’s views on Israel are morally indefensible.

rexblade

So unconditional support for Israeli occupation and promising to attack any country Israel orders us to is the only “acceptable” view? Does this view include a stated belief that Palestinians are subhuman or is that just implied?

I am anxious to hear the moral defense for bombing a country that MIGHT SOMEDAY develop a nuclear weapon even though they have cooperated with the international community and signed the NNPT?

Is there also a moral defense for Israel to demand we control Irans nuclear program even though Israel still denies any transparency into its own nuclear program that already has hundreds of nuclear weapons capable of god knows what? Sort of a hypocritical position in my opinion. But if you have a moral defense Id love to hear it.

kinghenry

he’s very much Anti-Israel and not at all Neutral.

kinghenry

small excerpt from Liberty Defined. Much worse is wrote

devereaux

What page ??

kinghenry

kinghenry

“The Liberal party in Israel often raises questions about apartheid conditions that Palestinians are subjected to
donald_24

Why is the media ignoring Ron Paul’s anti Semitic comments? Why aren’t they being played on tv 10 times a day?
devereaux

He said it in the chapter Religion and Liberty. And every President since Nixon has asked Israel not to build settlements in the occupied territories because it is Arab land. Are Niixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush Clinton Bush and Obama all antisemites??

Reagan did not a good relationship with Menachem Begin and a lot of it had to do with settlements on the West Bank.
rexblade

Sorry this is a true statement. http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/mission.cfm

TRUE TORAH JEWS AGAINST ZIONISM – OUR MISSION
The relatively new concept of Zionism began only about one hundred years ago and since that time Torah-true Jewry has steadfastly opposed the Zionist ideology. This struggle is rooted in two convictions:
Zionism, by advocating a political and military end to the Jewish exile, denies the very essence of our Diaspora existence. We are in exile by Divine Decree and may emerge from exile solely via Divine Redemption. All human efforts to alter a metaphysical reality are doomed to end in failure and bloodshed. History has clearly borne out this teaching.
Zionism has not only denied our fundamental belief in Heavenly Redemption it has also created a pseudo-Judaism which views the essence of our identity to be a secular nationalism. Accordingly, Zionism and the Israeli state have consistently endeavored, via persuasion and coercion, to replace a Divine and Torah centered understanding of our people hood with an armed materialism.
True Torah Jews is dedicated to informing the world and in particular the American public and politicians that all Jews do not support the ideology of the Zionist state called “Israel” which is diametrically opposite to the teachings of traditional Judaism.

We are concerned that the widespread misconception that all Jews support the zionist state and its actions endangers Jews worldwide.

We are NOT politically motivated. We are motivated by our concern for the peace and safety of all people throughout the world including those living in the Zionist state. We support and pray for peace for the people of the Zionist state but have no interest in and do not support the Zionist government.
lizzie

because every comment added by rexblade to this post is straight out of Code Pink’s far left handbook to delegitimize the sovereignty of Israel over every square inch of land, including Tel Aviv.

The people who renamed themselves as palestinians in 1964 already have a nation state: it is called Jordan. Ruled by a Hashemite minority, and Jordanian Bedouin who want to strip citizenship from the palestinian arab majority.

The Arab League forbids the permanent absorption of “palestinians” into any other member state of the Arab League, thus creating the only permanent “refugee” population in the history of the world, a permanent status extending from generation to generation of a people whose concept of self-determination is based on a narrative of victimhood that requires an endless stream of foreign aid, which in America, is called welfare, or, as the Brits say “on the dole”.

The only “occupation” in Arab League nations is that of the Arab Muslims who occupy or politically control the ancestral homelands of the Berbers of North Africa, the Copts of Egypt, the Druse of Syria and Lebanon, and the Kurds still denied Free Kurdistan by the Great Power betrayals of 1919 and 1923 into occupations by Turkey, Syria, Iraq, and Iran.

the Turks also occupy the ancestral homeland of the Alevi of Anatolia.

kinghenry

and read it for yourself.

I’ve found alot of enthusiastic Paul supporters have never read any of his books. Their support is based entirely on Rhetoric and being different. His rhetoric of ‘liberty’ and ‘constitutionalism’ is mostly, just that. Rhetoric, not reality.

devereaux

Just forgot the quote. It is an excellent book and got fantastic reviews!!
kinghenry

n/t
rexblade

Any example in the constitution that support for Israeli settlements is encouraged? Or how it maintains liberty for Americans?

Do you people just parrot statements or do you just make up this stuff on here? Are you hoping to never get challenged to provide any facts supporting what you say?

usually when this challenge is made it is answered with attacks and insults and avoids providing any source or link to support the claim . Of just remain silent, which are you kinghenry?
westcoastpatriette

Did you read lizzie’s comment above and if so, what say you? Can you provide any evidence that her depiction of the truth as it pertains to the so-called “Palistinians” is false? If not, how can you defend Paul’s accusations against Israel that they have stolen land?
lizzie

thanks westcoastpatriette. seems rexblade is still in this thread, but so far avoids a reply to my 11:13 am comment above because of my title.

I have never been into conspiracy theories. But, I got sick of reading the same words used here by rexblade when I read them in 2008 inside the Obama campaign website, and every blog to the left of The Atlantic (Jeffrey Goldberg’s blog used to be the center for the competing narratives, but Goldblog lost my respect when he vouched for Imam Rauf last year during the Ground Zero Mosque furor).

2008-2010 accelerated my transition to disillusioned dem, now greatly compounded by the Pelosi-Obama fiscal lunacy, Obamacare, and New York’s decision that no one should ever have to endure another democratic primary, even for the State Assembly! Being able to vote in a primary is why New York has so many registered democrats. and why half of them sit home rather than vote. NYC is NOT deep blue, just apathetic, with a dysfunctional GOP. I always vote, but 2010 was my biggest protest vote

I digress.

I have not read Ron Paul’s books, but thought his general foreign policy position was based on the Founders’ warnings about “foreign entanglements”.

This is not the only blogpost about the Dec 7 RJC Forum. And, to see the same words that are used by the anti-war left about Isreal makes me realize why Ron Paul’s base is growing in 2012. The factions in Obama’s base who are deeply disappointed by his positions on the Patriot Act, Gitmo, not giving Israel “tough love”, etcetera, are apparently migrating to Ron Paul.

Which explains why the GOP, not just the RJC, keeps hoping Ron Paul will somehow go away.

I can understand those who want the Patriot Act repealed, although I personally just want my library books to be off-limits.

But, the anti-war left is a toxic faction – even the Dem establishment had to muzzle Code Pink. One of the CPink founders is also one of the founders of the Free Gaza movement.
Explains why Ron Paul detests Rick Perry so much, not because Perry was a conservative dem until 1989, or because Perry volunteered in the USAF, and Ron Paul was forced into his military service. You can read why at his wiki bio entry, where I also learned Dr. Paul did his residency after med school at Duke at… Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit. .

When the 2nd Gaza flotilla was trying to launch from Greece this past summer, a lawfare strategy was used to stop it, mostly through the insurance carriers of the ship owners.
Gov. Perry knew one of the Israelis in that org, and asked how he could help. Gov. Perry wrote a letter to AG Holder asking to enforce the Neutrality Act, which stopped Bill Ayers Gaza flotilla boat from sailing.
One letter. Imagine that!

yeah, same Bill Ayers, Obama’s bff..

rexblade does not want to be exposed as a leftist, so he will never reply to my comments in this thread

The more I learn, the more I understand why the RJC did not extend an invitation to Ron Paul.
And why Gary Johnson is so frustrated about Paul’s grip on Libertarians.
lizzie

thanks westcoastpatriette. seems rexblade is still in this thread, but so far avoids a reply to my 11:13 am comment above because of my title.

I have never been into conspiracy theories. But, I got sick of reading the same words used here by rexblade when I read them in 2008 inside the Obama campaign website, and every blog to the left of The Atlantic (Jeffrey Goldberg’s blog used to be the center for the competing narratives, but Goldblog lost my respect when he vouched for Imam Rauf last year during the Ground Zero Mosque furor).

2008-2010 accelerated my transition to disillusioned dem, now greatly compounded by the Pelosi-Obama fiscal lunacy, Obamacare, and New York’s decision that no one should ever have to endure another democratic primary, even for the State Assembly! Being able to vote in a primary is why New York has so many registered democrats. and why half of them sit home rather than vote. NYC is NOT deep blue, just apathetic, with a dysfunctional GOP. I always vote, but 2010 was my biggest protest vote

I digress.

I have not read Ron Paul’s books, but thought his general foreign policy position was based on the Founders’ warnings about “foreign entanglements”.

This is not the only blogpost about the Dec 7 RJC Forum. And, to see the same words that are used by the anti-war left about Isreal makes me realize why Ron Paul’s base is growing in 2012. The factions in Obama’s base who are deeply disappointed by his positions on the Patriot Act, Gitmo, not giving Israel “tough love”, etcetera, are apparently migrating to Ron Paul.

Which explains why the GOP, not just the RJC, keeps hoping Ron Paul will somehow go away.

I can understand those who want the Patriot Act repealed, although I personally just want my library books to be off-limits.

But, the anti-war left is a toxic faction – even the Dem establishment had to muzzle Code Pink. One of the CPink founders is also one of the founders of the Free Gaza movement.
Explains why Ron Paul detests Rick Perry so much, not because Perry was a conservative dem until 1989, or because Perry volunteered in the USAF, and Ron Paul was forced into his military service. You can read why at his wiki bio entry, where I also learned Dr. Paul did his residency after med school at Duke at… Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit. .

When the 2nd Gaza flotilla was trying to launch from Greece this past summer, a lawfare strategy was used to stop it, mostly through the insurance carriers of the ship owners.
Gov. Perry knew one of the Israelis in that org, and asked how he could help. Gov. Perry wrote a letter to AG Holder asking to enforce the Neutrality Act, which stopped Bill Ayers Gaza flotilla boat from sailing.
One letter. Imagine that!

yeah, same Bill Ayers, Obama’s bff..

rexblade does not want to be exposed as a leftist, so he will never reply to my comments in this thread

The more I learn, the more I understand why the RJC did not extend an invitation to Ron Paul.
And why Gary Johnson is so frustrated about Paul’s grip on Libertarians.
westcoastpatriette

I majored in psychology in college and worked in the field for many years and that, coupled with scriptural teachings pertaining to the Golden Rule and other relative commandments, has taught me that there are people in this world who seem incapable of recognizing perpetrators and, instead, consistently blame the victims.

Ron Paul and like-minded Palestinian and terrorist sympathizers fall into that category. I call it sloppy agape and greasy grace.

Because of my background though, I am always a little hesitant to label these people overtly anti-semitic as opposed to just dangerously ignorant and naive. Not sure where to draw the line when politics is part of the picture. OTOH, it is very easy for someone like Paul to couch anti-semitic leanings behind Constitutional reasons to withhold allegiance from Israel.

In any event, they all get on my last nerve and I am very glad the RJC took a principled stand and excluded Paul from their conference.
mikeymike143

the only way to get him to quit spamming a diary is to post a picture of a bar of soap and some water on it.
westcoastpatriette

Thanks for the heads up.
lizzie

Libertarian.

my point is that rexblade is using same words used by the Israel-bashing anti-war Left who are growing Ron Paul’s base. NOT a faction the GOP wants.
They should all move to Norway

and sticktotheconstitution is a Paulbot, but more likely one who really does want to avoid ‘foreign entanglements’.

That worked fine for America until the 19th century Empires collapsed after WW1, and when America emerged as the champion against Fascism after WW2, and Stalinism WW3 aka The Cold War.

Today, all small nations ally with one of the UNSC permanent members. Until 1967, France was Israel’s ‘protector’. Then the proxies during the Cold War became important for the USA.

This week, today, Israel still has location and technologies in her favor, as multi-polar alliances are in the middle of a re-structuring.

Prime example: Historically, everyone still hates the Turks (the former Ottoman Empire and then Ataturks ethnic cleansing of Greeks and Syriac Christians in the 1920′s.
In the past year, Israel has formed bilateral military alliances with Greece and Bulgaria and the EU part of Cyprus, the three nations who hate the Turks the most, except for Armenia, and that gets complicated so Armenia allies with Russia, and Israel has very good relations (under the radar) with Armenia’s other mortal enemy, Azerbaijan.

The USA can not go back in time to 1890.

One of the great debates between the GOP and Democratic Party is about America’s role in the world.
Obviously, there is debate within both parties. Exceptionalism? Uni-polar? Transnational? Multi-polar?

Meanwhile, as cyber-warfare becomes a growing threat, I always ask this question:

Which nation do you want as your ally in cyber-warfare?
Consider that the most serious threats are coming from Russia/Ukraine and China.
And that Russia’s great software brain drain has gone to Israel.

Water Wars are already a serious threat to global stability.
Israel made their deserts bloom, and lead in irrigation, hydrponics, and desalinization technologies. China so much wants to buy these technologies from Israel. So does Texas and the entire mountainwest of the USA.

Comparative advantage is a big part of the free markets so loved by Libertarians.

see y’all another thread.
lizzie

Libertarian.

my point is that rexblade is using same words used by the Israel-bashing anti-war Left who are growing Ron Paul’s base. NOT a faction the GOP wants.
They should all move to Norway

and sticktotheconstitution is a Paulbot, but more likely one who really does want to avoid ‘foreign entanglements’.

That worked fine for America until the 19th century Empires collapsed after WW1, and when America emerged as the champion against Fascism after WW2, and Stalinism WW3 aka The Cold War.

Today, all small nations ally with one of the UNSC permanent members. Until 1967, France was Israel’s ‘protector’. Then the proxies during the Cold War became important for the USA.

This week, today, Israel still has location and technologies in her favor, as multi-polar alliances are in the middle of a re-structuring.

Prime example: Historically, everyone still hates the Turks (the former Ottoman Empire and then Ataturks ethnic cleansing of Greeks and Syriac Christians in the 1920′s.
In the past year, Israel has formed bilateral military alliances with Greece and Bulgaria and the EU part of Cyprus, the three nations who hate the Turks the most, except for Armenia, and that gets complicated so Armenia allies with Russia, and Israel has very good relations (under the radar) with Armenia’s other mortal enemy, Azerbaijan.

The USA can not go back in time to 1890.

One of the great debates between the GOP and Democratic Party is about America’s role in the world.
Obviously, there is debate within both parties. Exceptionalism? Uni-polar? Transnational? Multi-polar?

Meanwhile, as cyber-warfare becomes a growing threat, I always ask this question:

Which nation do you want as your ally in cyber-warfare?
Consider that the most serious threats are coming from Russia/Ukraine and China.
And that Russia’s great software brain drain has gone to Israel.

Water Wars are already a serious threat to global stability.
Israel made their deserts bloom, and lead in irrigation, hydrponics, and desalinization technologies. China so much wants to buy these technologies from Israel. So does Texas and the entire mountainwest of the USA.

Comparative advantage is a big part of the free markets so loved by Libertarians.

see y’all another thread.

lizzie

http://www.rjchq.org/Newsroom/newsdetail.aspx?id=f716d2c4-79fa-4b14-afed-67fcaa5917ba

“At RJC forum, Prez cands will ‘put to bed smears’ by DNC, Wasserman Schultz”
and delve into the entire Middle East mishegoss, and the new Panetta/Amb. Gutman firestorm that is about to make New York the real swing state in 2012.
Obama has never campaigned in New York – it is only safe for Bill Clinton

Still no idea if this forum will be televised by C-Span, or livestreamed.
My bet is a transcript will be available.

not appearing on the official schedule: http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-schedule/2011-2012-primary-debate-schedule/

This URL also has links to previous podcasts, including the Huckabee Forum:
sticktotheconstitution

What is this, amateur hour on redstate? Half of you people think that it’s our responsibility to spend money we don’t have on attempting to micro-manage the globe. Israel is a big boy, it can support itself.

Cut spending (including overseas spending) or else this economy will see complete destruction. It’s as simple as that. Stop worrying about other nations, START worrying about OURS.
lizzie

sorry for the double comment posts have no idea why must be that my PC is five years old and I use IE browser

1bunny

as it has happened to me more than once today and my computer is not even a year old. I even got a smiley face inserted in a post I made and I don’t even know how to do that. I am blaming it on computer gremlins : )
pttx333

And it has taken a looong time to post when doing so … also for switching screens. Guess the bad fairies are at work!

lizzie

Gingrich, Romney and Perry must stand by Israel
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mikeymike143

this career politican is bought and paid for by the muslims and neo nazis.
Common_Cents

Either the guy is a loon or he isn’t.
Common_Cents

.
mikeymike143

no doubt about it
tomatin

For me the messenger does matter. I find Paul and his messages a badge of honor for those he attacks.

Face it Paul = Kucinich on foreign policy. Both are crazy “blame America first” for all the world’s woes. Well memo to them. America stewardship of the world has been incomparable in human history. American blood has kept the world secure with less loss of life than any time in history when you factor in the population explosion. To sede this roll to a county like who hates freedom like China is utterly insane.
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

These good folks have simply done what the Republican Leadership in the House should have done years ago, toss the b*****d out of the caucus. Ron Paul is an antisemite of the first order and he’s not a Republican in any sense of the word. He’s so bad on every issue – including being a total hypocrite on finance – it’s an embarassment that he’s allowed anywhere near Republican circles.
donald_24

In full disclosure, I’m Jewish. I have several relatives in Israel who have served in the IDF. I fail to see how Ron Paul is an anti Semite. And I am no fan of him nor would I ever vote for him. Yes he wants to cut off aid to Israel. But he wants to cut off aid to ALL countries as well. And Israel is a rather rich country so they do not need foreign aid. A s aJew and a supporter of Israel, I wish Israel would stop accepting US aid because then they are selling their sovereignity to the US. When you accept foreign aid from the US, there are ALWAYS strings attached. Netanyahu sis a good PM who cares abotut eh security of Israel, but his hands are tied by the Obama Admin. Adm. Mullen specifically told him that he has a “Red Light” to bomb Iran.

If Israel separated itself from the US and stopped taking their money, maybe their security would be better off. They could attack the Iranian nuclear facilities. And they could once and for all stop the rocket attacks. Plus they coudl build all of the settlements that they wish. Last time I checked, East Jerusalem is part of Israel and yet the Obama Admin. is treating it like it is the West Bank. This is what happens when you accept foreign aid.
Jim

Yours is a dangerously ignorant comment based in ZERO facts.

Do you have any facts, references, links, quotes to back up this hyperbolic statement?
deVere

Ron Paul would end all diplomatic assistance to Israel at the UN. The UN Security Council would pass numerous anti-Israel resolutions and edicts during the Paul administration.

Ron Paul would comdemn Israel when it defends itself, as he has in the past!
http://trueslant.com/charlesjohnson/2010/06/04/ron-paul-gaza-is-a-concentration-camp-israel-is-starving-palestinians/
Please llisten to his own words in his own voice.

Ron Paul has knowingly accepted campaign contributions by well-known neo-NAZIs, such as the owner of the Stormfront website. When the source of the contribution was pointed out to the Paul campaign in 2008, the word came back that they would accept the money and any more like it.

The question has been raised whether Ron Paul’s non-intervention foreign policy is sincere, or just a means of covertly expressing his hatred of Israel. I don’t know the answer to that one.
westcoastpatriette

It’s always refreshing when political organizations do the right thing rather than the expedient thing. Paul’s failure to value our friendship with Israel is just one aspect of his frightening view of foreign affairs.

Nothing angers me more than people who blame victims and Paul consistently blames the U.S. and Israel when we are attacked by insane, hate-filled terrorists. It is a twisted view of reality and one that we cannot allow to influence decisions impacting our defense strategies.
donald_24

I have to admit I never heard Ron Paul make those comments before. So that changes my opinion of him, althoguh I was never going to vote for him anyway. Perhaps Ron Paul should take a visit to Gaza. Then he can take a trip to North Korea and see what a real life, 21st century concentration camp looks like.
Jim

…then Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, Drudge, and just about evey other news outlet has done a very poor job at reporting this.

Hell, there was a big dust up and accusations of racism because Rick Perry’s family was the leasholder on a hunting camp that once had the N-word on a rock (stupid baseless story). Yet, the media seems to be hiding Ron Paul’s explicit, apparent links to neo-Nazis and anti-semitism.

Ron Paul certainly has a different view on forign policy than the rest of the GOP field. But he has a lot of support of veterans (his fundraising amongst them beats all the other GOP candidates combined) and the American people at large. You don’t have to agree with him, but he is a legitimate candidate for president with a case to make and should have a voice in the debates with everyone else. If he is such a fool, the American people will see this for what it is and it will be reflected in the primaries and caucuses.
tomatin

Paul’s intentions as a non-interventionism are clear. He’s in the same “blame America first, (Israel second)” crowd.
rexblade

Lets just let Israel pick the American president.
lucasblack

I think it’s silly to not invite him. He’s not a Nazi or anything. I’m not a Ron Paul supporter, but why not invite him and throw out some tough questions to him? I don’t agree with Ron Paul’s isolationist stance, but it’s not like he has no basis in Republican Party history to hold those views – it used to be the default position of the party. All this does is give Ron Paul and his supporters more evidence that he’s not given a fare shake in the process. I think it makes the Republican Jewish Coalition look a lot worse than Ron Paul.
(Disclosure, I’m part Jewish and a big Zionist)
deVere

the US Constitution reposing virtually exclusive control of foreign policy in the President.

If Ron Paul was running to join a 7 member executive team, such as they have in Switzerland, I might even vote for him.. He has a valuable perspective that should be heard, but it would be utterly disastrous to have him exclusively in charge of US foreign policy.

The “sad but true” joke is that Ron Paul is 90% correct, and 10% insane.
tomatin

Israel made the Gaza strip a “concentration camp”. Please his own words show he’s no supporter of Jewish people.
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

the Republican House Leadership has been absolutely wrong to not throw Paul’s a$$ out of the Republican caucus a long time ago. He’s absolutely an antisemite, and even more to the point, he’s not a Republican. He has consistenly refused to endorse the Republican POTUS nominee, he actually endorsed third parties.

Good riddance to him and he will not be at all missed in the next Congress. And, the only thing I’ve seen that is more pathetic than Ron Paul are his brain dead, ignorant, idiot supporters.
Jim

…I don’t fault anyone for disagreeing with Ron Paul’s views. But he should be allowed to participate in this debate. If he is SO super crazy, then it will be obvious to anyone watching.

But the dirty little secret is that his views on forign policy are being listened to and/or accepted by a larger and larger block of the GOP electorate…largely due to the fiscal realities of our not being able to afford to be the policeman of the world.
mikeymike143

Ron Paul Is A Vicious Anti-Semite and Anti-American and Conservatives Need To Wash Their Hands of Him

David Horowitz is the editor-in-chief of NewsReal Blog and FrontPage Magazine. He is the President and CEO of the David Horowitz Freedom Center.

Long ago Bill Buckley drummed the anti-Semites out of the conservative movement, and the movement thrived as a result. But the Jew-haters have returned. For years the Texas crackpot, Ron Paul, has been attacking America and Israel as imperialist powers
Getting_Back_to_Basics

These are absurd statements and discredits the diary.
haumea

Didn’t he call Gaza a “concentration camp”?

You might understand Jews’ reluctance to embrace him in light of the Islamo-leftist “now you’re the Nazis!” counternarrative that he’s peddled.

There’s no daylight between the far left and the Islamists and Paul when it comes to Israel, no matter in what non-interventionist BS he couches it.
deVere

The people holding the debate decided to only invite politicians friendly to Israel. You are entitled to organize you own debate, and invite whoever you want to.
devereaux

Vatican: Gaza Strip is a Concentration Camp

http://digitaljournal.com/article/264758
rexblade

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/herzl/index.cfm

http://youtu.be/L8TTFirNs8k
devereaux

Paul Gigot Editorial Page Editor of the largest newspaper in the country the Wall Street Journal asked Ron Paul to write an op-ed on the FED and interest rates for the paper.

http://tinyurl.com/62obkoo

Paul Gigot tolerates anti semites and extremist ??

Seth Lipsky used to write editorials for the Wall Street Journal and occasionally still does.

Ron Paul’s Golden Opportunity

http://tinyurl.com/6qmlrvb

Lipsky also founded the New York Sun newspaper. He likes to write editorials like this

How Ron Paul Won the Debate
lizzie

Then google Ron Paul One World Conspiracy Jews or some other combination and you find a direct line from Henry Ford, Sr to Ron Paul.
Ford, Sr., was the most respected businessman in the world and considered a possible GOP nominee in 1924. Ford, Sr was a sincere pacifist who also was so convinced that the creation of the Federal Reserve was part of a ‘global Zionist conspiracy’ that he used his newspaper, The Dearborn Independent, to re-write the Tsarist anti-Jew propaganda “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” (also known as “the lie that never dies”) into a series “The International Jew”. summary at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford

Because the Dearborn Independent failed to copyright “The International Jew” series, the articles were translated into many languages, and live on to today. If Ford, Sr. had been Jack Smith from Nowhere, USA, no one would have ever noticed, but Ford, Sr’s reputation gave enormous credibility to what his wholly-owned Dearborn Independent published until …well, it’s a complex story and a book was written by Neil Baldwin, “Henry Ford and the Jews: The Mass Production of Hate”, (Public Affairs, 2002),

I was taking a graduate course in the History of Anti-semitism in 2005, and wrote my final paper on The Protocols, which led me to Ford, Sr, and websites from America’s neo-nazi supremacists to Japan and South Korea, and just about every other country in between. BTW, the linkage was two of the Warburg brothers. I had already read RonChernow’s “The Warburgs” New York: Random House, 1993. And remembered the Germans never forgave Felix for the harsh terms of the Treaty of Versailles, even though Felix had refused to sign. And that Paul, who had emigrated to the US, had been the architect of the Federal Reserve Bank because he was so familiar with the structure and benefits of Germany’s pre-WW1 Central Bank.

At the Nov 19 Iowa Thanksgiving Forum, Frank Luntz asked for any protestor to come forward and have his/her say before they began, suggesting an OWS protestor would take the opportunity. Instead, an unidentified man in a Carhartt t-shirt went into a polite-enough rant of the Federal Reserve as ‘privately owned – controlled by secret foreign bankers’.

I recognized the same language from Henry Ford, Sr.’s attacks on the Fed.

Perhaps Ron Paul knows this is only a sub-set of his devoted supporters, but he does sound a lot like Henry, Ford, Sr. did in the 1920′s.

I do not know why the RJC did not invite Ron Paul for the Dec 7 forum. I doubt it has anything to do with US militray aid (too many strings attached) to Israel.

I assume the RJC does not want a distractive element, who seems to believe that Jewish bankers secretly rule the world. Yeah, tell that to Jaime Dimon at JP Morgan Chase. Hank Paulson, ex-Goldman Sachs, and SecTreas is Christian Scientist and he and Tim Geithner allowed Lehman Bros to go bankrupt, which led to TARP and Bernanke’s efforts that are now being criticized.

It is a coincidence that the US Fed chair has been a Jew since Greenspan and Bernanke.

My guess is no Jew will ever again accept SecTrea or Fed Chair.

BTW, it was JP Morgan, when it was Protestants-only, who pressured for the creation of the Federal Reserve. Another interesting story about America in the post-Civil War boom and bust era, when only JP Morgan could intervene to stabilize the currency markets when the US was on the gold standard.

Final BTW: the biggest population concentration of arab muslims in the USA is …Dearborn, Michigan. NOT a coincidence.

disclosure: I am secular Jew and 100% historian who is appalled by Obama’s embrace of the palestinian narrative re: Israel.
lizzie

Israel is America’s necessary ally.
National Security GOP faction knows that Israel is America’s “permanent aircraft carrier” in the Eastern Med. Look at a map, and note the proximity to the Suez Canal.

William O Buckley and President Reagan managed to subdue the Henry Ford, Sr “America First” faction of the GOP until Ron Paul brought them into his coalition.
devereaux

That Ron Paul attacks the FED because it’s run by a Jew??
deVere

Henry Ford died in Dearborn, but is buried in Detroit.

The initial Arab immigrants to Dearborn were Lebanese Christians who came to work in the Ford factory.

More recent arrivals to Dearborn are Arab Muslims who were attracted by the presence of Arabic language services, which were already well established by the earlier Christian immigrants.

What does any of this have to do with Henry Ford and his anti-Jewish rants?
rexblade

ive never heard Ron Paul say anything about Jewish bankers ruling the world. Do you have a link to this?
devereaux

Was a proud member of America First Committee. So was Sargent Shriver, future Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, H. Smith Richardson of the Vick Chemical Company, General Robert E. Wood of Sears-Roebuck, Sterling Morton of Morton Salt Company, publisher Joseph M. Patterson (New York Daily News) and his cousin publisher Robert R. McCormick (Chicago Tribune). Future President John F. Kennedy sent a contribution, with a note saying “What you are doing is vital.”
Jim

An opinion blog by David Horowitz that basically said Ron Paul wanted to end foreign aid to Israel?!?

That’s pretty weak for the inflammatory hyperbole you are spewing.

Ending foreign aid to all countries, including Israel, is a topic that is being discussed by all the GOP candidates for president. Given the unprecedented financial state of the federal government right now, it is a completely defensible conservative position to put this on the table.

Ending the subsidization of the government of Israel (and all other foreign governments) with U.S. taxpayer money is a legitimate conservative position, voiced by many prominent conservatives over the years.
Jim

…that has consistently sold out the cause of small government and conservative values for the last decade? And keep RINOs in key committee positions?

I have few bigger bones to pick with them than their treatment of a congressman who is largely in line with the stated goals of the mainstream conservative movement.
donald_24

In order to get into a “leadership” position, you have to do a lot of butt kissing and engage in a lot of back room deals. You have to tout the party line even if it is wrong. That is why leadership always stinks and why it will always continue to stink.

Who was the last great Congressional leader in the GOP? All of the recent ones stink. Gingrich, Hastert, DeLay, Boehner, McConnell, Dole, Lott, etc. These are the types of people who will always be in leadership. And why would you expect them to behave any differently? Don’t you know? Former leaders are worth a lot of money on K Street.
http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

…of the mainstream conservative movement” you’re an unredeemable idiot.. I’m no fan of the Republican leadership in the House, but I’d take any or all of them to the antisemitic, hypocrite Ron Paul.
lizzie

did, and some Paul supporters buy into the idea that the FED is ‘privately owned by foreign bankers’ which is code for the Rothschilds, which is code for Jewish bankers.

In that conspiracy world, people think Rupert Murdoch is a Jew I amnot kidding – feeds into the “Jews control the media” conspiracy theory.

My personal assessment is that Greenspan did far more damage during his tenure at the Fed, and Greenspan is an Ayn Rand Libertarian.

Bernanke was a good choice by Bush43, and did what he thought was necessary in a crisis overseen by Paulson and Geithner, who was the most timid President of the New York Fed ever because Geithner did nothing to sound the fire alarm on Lehman Bros when Geithner had oversight and knew how bad it was. btw, Tim Geithner is NOT Jewish. Still pi##ed that Obama made Tim his SecTreas, and all the GOP could do was nag Tim about his taxes!

But, we (Jews) get blamed for everything, especially when the subject is money.

I know one blogger who keeps track of all the things we get blamed for – we have running jokes ever since 2010 when Egypt accused Mossad of training sharks to attack tourists, when Egypt still had tourists visiting their resorts on the Red Sea.

http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell#p/u/14/eIesXORjBps
is biting satire Brilliant Youtube “Let’s Blame the Jews”

Pat Condell’s newest YouTube is “The Gathering Storm” on the idiocy of the EU corporate-statist-takeover. TEA Party would love that one.

that’s all, folks.
http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

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ohtimtim

because it is responsible for destroying the value of the US dollar. It has been responsible for every recession and depression that has occurred since its inception-including the present one. If the Fed had not raised interest rates I believe 11 or 17 times in a few months(chasing the ghost of inflation) back in 2008, then all of those “sub-prime” borrowers would never have defaulted ; We wouldn’t have a decimated housing market and overall economy like we have now. Then after they crash the economy, they have to put interest rates all the way down to zero, which destroys saving. If you did a little research you would find they did the exact same thing back in 1994-95. Plus it was Paul Voelker (Debt Commission also, I believe) that raised interest rates up to 20% back in Carter’s time; Some experts believe the country never totally recovered from that stupidity.

Forty years ago my high school history teacher explained that the Fed’s creation guaranteed a minimum yearly inflation of 3%. That was the cost of their existence. That’s why today’s dollar will only buy 5% of what it would before the Fed was created.

Before you start insulting people like Ron Paul do some research yourself. I haven’t finished researching Ron Paul but the fact that he is so popular with the soldiers in our military speaks volumes more than the slurs of a few people on an internet blog.
lizzie

http://www.committeeforisrael.com/uncategorized/eci-statement-on-panetta-and-gutman-the-blame-israel-first-administration/

Considerable overlap between the RJC and the Emergency Committee for Israel.
wonkish1

You do realize that it is Fed hawks like Paul and myself(I thought I would never have to use Paul and myself in the same sentence) that actually rooted for those FFR hikes in 05-06 to pop the asset bubbles in the market at the time.

Instead it was us that hated the decision of Greenspan to *lower* the rates to 1% after the dot com bust and keep them their and its us hawks that hate Bernanke’s horrible decisions to keep them at near zero today.

So it is kind of funny that you don’t even understand what Ron Paul’s position is when you claim others need to do research on it.
acat

This has more to do with Ron Paul than the Federal Reserve. Simple proof – the Federal Reserve is audited every year, if Ron Paul wants to see the audit, all he has to do is ask.

Your high school teacher would also likely prefer you remember better. The Federal Reserve was founded in 1913, nearly a century ago. Perhaps you’re thinking of the decision to move away from the gold standard?

Mew
lizzie

for “The International Jew” series, still wildly popular in the Arabic translation.

As to Dr. Ron Paul and his attacks on the Fed – my comments have been about a subset of his supporters believing the Fed is a ‘private corporation with secret foreign banker ownership’, which is what Henry Ford, Sr also objected to.

Having just watched Dr. Paul on the Huckabee Forum, I fail to see why he has such a loyal base. He was nearly incoherent, and, for someone who treasures the Constitution, he does not seem to think Article I, Section 8 is flexible enough to imagine a Central Bank is necessary “To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several states”

As much I treasure the U.S. Constitution, the Founders also thought that factions would never prevail (The Federalist Papers notes that), and they had the sense to include the 9th Amendment, which is where Justice Brandeis found the seed for the “right to privacy”
ohtimtim

that Ron Paul wants to end the Fed just like I do. As for the rest of your comment, if the Fed wasn’t there you wouldn’t (and shouldn’t) have to worry about what they are doing.
wonkish1

And his decision to contract the money supply in the late 70s early 80s.

As I and many other Austrians or Monetarists like chairman Volcker. It was actually Volcker’s decision that played a key roll in creating 20 years of prosperity and a pretty damn stable currency.

And you can’t just immediately “End the Fed” there are a few steps along the way to doing something like that. And you would need to pick one of several large changes to our monetary system.
devereaux

Since the creation of the central bank the dollar has lost 98 percent of its value.

And I don’t think the American people realize the “Federal Reserve is now the central bank to the world”

http://tinyurl.com/d6twg3d

Did congress give the okay?? What about the American people ?? The FED is out of control.
Jim

You’re right. Someone who is:

1) Pro-Life,
2) Proposing $1 trillion in REAL cuts in his first budget,
3) Advocating abolishing 5 cabinet level departments,
4) Has never voted to raise taxes,
5) Has advocated for Israel’s right to defend itself without US interference (reference his refusal to condemn Israel when they bombed Iraq
rexblade

Maybe you can post what they are then because I thought we were for smaller government and recognize we need to reduce spending if we are to survive as a country.
devereaux

“light of the Islamo-leftist
sticktotheconstitution

We don’t need to baby-sit Israel. They have plenty of nuclear weapons and the technology to protect themselves. I’m all for being friends and selling them the weapons needed to defend themselves, but we shouldn’t have to hold their hand like a small child forever.

Not wanting to hand Isreal billions in free cash doesn’t make one anti-semitic.
haumea

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36478_Ron_Paul-_Gaza_is_a_Concentration_Camp_Israel_is_Starving_Palestinians

Happened on Imus in June 2010.
devereaux

http://digitaljournal.com/article/264758
haumea

I suppose you’re also a global warming believer because the Vatican has spoken out on it.

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