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Ron Paul is the path to GOP victory in 2012 and beyond

By: MNConservative (Diary)  |  January 11th, 2012 at 05:52 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

It was a beautiful day here in Minnesota yesterday; we don’t often have temps in the 50s in January.

I was at a GOP caucus planning meeting for my local BPOU yesterday evening, and we were taking the opportunity to discuss our Presidential candidates. We’ve got a Newt supporter, a Santorum supporter, some people who didn’t say a preference, and I’m a long time Paul supporter.

The Republican Party has a problem: While the frontrunner only has the support of the “establishment” moderate wing of the party (about 1/3 of the votes apparently), the vote of the party’s true believers, the conservatives, is split across several candidates.

The spectre of Mitt Romney gaining the nomination is looming before us. I call it a spectre because it is like the ghost of 2008. (How exactly DID we get McCain as our nominee, anyhow?) Does the Republican party really want to run another moderate? How would Romney have any credibility to run against Obama-care, the single biggest get-out-the-vote issue we have? I’m telling you now, if we run another moderate for President, we’ll end up losing to Obama again. We need to present a CLEAR CHOICE to the American people.

My friend (a Santorum supporter) was saying how while he doesn’t like Ron Paul’s foreign policy, he likes that Ron Paul is moving the debate to the right, and moving the other candidates to the right. Then I asked him… wouldn’t you rather have a candidate who cannot be moved?

You like Ron Paul on balancing the budget.

You like Ron Paul on limited government.

You like Ron Paul on taxes.

You like Ron Paul on Liberty and Freedom.

So, you like Ron Paul except on foreign policy?

Ron Paul has a solid core of supporters, and seems to be garnering about 1/5 of the vote. Once you go Paul, you never go back.

I speak to you as a one whose formative years were influenced by Ronald Reagan. I wept openly when he passed away.

I speak to you as one who spent days knocking on doors for W in 2004.

I speak to you as a Fred Thompson supporter in 2008. It wasn’t until Thompson dropped out that I switched to Ron Paul because of his limited government stand. Then I started actually listening to what he has to say about foreign policy. I urge you to really listen, because I’m telling you now, he’s RIGHT.

Ron Paul brings voters to our party, a coalition of the lovers of freedom.

An attempt to rally around any of the other candidates would lose many of Ron Paul’s freedom coalition voters.

If we get behind Ron Paul we can defeat Romney, and we can defeat Obama. Victory!

Not just victory on election night. With Ron Paul as President we won’t have to worry about how far left he’ll backslide now that he’s elected. We won’t have to worry about another Medicare part D.

Let me close with this: We RedStaters love and support the military. We support our troops. Our troops support Ron Paul.

What are you going to do?

 

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  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    would be him on a spit over a fire.

    “Ron Paul brings voters to our party, a coalition of the lovers of freedom.”
    Yeah right. He brings a collection of skinheads and empty heads.

    You may be from MN, but you’re certainly neither conservative or very smart.

    Hopefully Neil will stick a fork in you so we don’t have to be subjected to this brain dead, stupid and frankly offensive crap anymore.

    • MNConservative

      I knew I could count on you for a good laugh. :)

      Too bad you only spout vitriol and never have any reasoned comments.

      • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

        It’s all brown and smelly.

        Ron Paul is a proven racist and anti-Semite, without regard to your sock puppet upthread. He’s also a troofer and birfer.

        And you shouldn’t be here. You smell up the site with this trash.

  • Tbone

    By identifying his supporters we would know who to sterilize. Had we done this with Perot/Nader/Buchanan/Wallace/ Philadelphia Eagles supporters I am sure we would be far better off today.

    • jakeofalltrades

      Bring them forth that they may be counted.

    • weyland

      Too slow. How about something a little quicker; I’m sure we can think of something.

    • MNConservative

      Are you talking about all of Ron Paul’s military supporters? You must really hate our soldiers. I’ll be surprised if you don’t get banned.

      Or maybe I’m missing the joke?

      • pttx333

        Did it ever occur to you that perhaps it has been “misrepresented” that Paul has the most military supporters? Has it never occurred to you that every last person in the military is a VOLUNTEER?

        How dare you accuse anyone of hating our soldiers! That is below the belt – my granddaughter is serving while we write on RS, and I can GUARANTEE you that she is NO Ron Paul supporter!

        You’re the one who should be banned for coming here with your bilge!

        • MNConservative

          How are you going to misrepresent his support amongst our troops? You think that sort of thing might be pointed out REAL fast by a media who hates him anyhow.

          And how I dare? Oh I don’t know, calling for the sterilisation of Ron Paul’s supporters in the context of the active duty military seems mighty hateful to me.

          Talk about bilge!

          • pttx333

            How are you going to prove the Paul support there anyway … other than “he said so?” Besides the media hates anyone running on the R ticket, so that is no guideline for anything.

            I never called for sterilization of anyone, so don’t lay that off on me.

        • ghostship

          So “joking” about forced sterilization and killing Ron Paul’s supporters even those that serve in the military is OK but it’s MNConservative’s comment that you consider below the belt.

          Even if one dislikes Paul’s positions. Talking about sterilizing and killing his supporters is just deranged. If anyone should be banned from this site it’s those that make comments such as that.

          • acat

            Do you really see Tbone and pttx33 rounding up and sterilizing people? I’m less familiar with weyland, but … not seein’ it.

            As for myself, sterilization seems a bit harsh. I’d suggest, instead, simply disenfranchising those who effectively self-select out of the electoral process anyway.

            Mew

          • ghostship

            I don’t see Tbone and pttx33 doing anything like that.

            However, I do think that someone needs to step up and say that such comments are really crossing the line of civility.

          • acat

            You’re casting blame, not because you don’t get that it’s a joke, but because you don’t like the joke, ghostship?

            That makes no sense. Unless…

            Are you a Ron Paul supporter, ghostship?

            Mew

          • ghostship

            Truthfully, I find the whole GOP field right now pretty vomit inducing. I suppose if push came to shove I might be able to hold my nose and vote for Gingrich (ugh!) but for the field after that I will need to consume so much alcohol that I can’t guarantee who I would pull the lever for. Although I’m 99.9% sure that there is not enough liqueur in the world to make me vote for Romney.

          • acat

            In addition to the poorly masked threat to bolt the GOP if they nominate Romney, which I note is also a common threat of the Paul supporters, I mean.

            As I’ve never found a critic I agree with, I shall simply ignore you as I ignore them.

            Mew

          • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

            and his ilk pro-forma crosses every line for civility. There is no comment that could possibly be anything but both civil and rational if it is attacking Paul and his ‘tards. And MNc is obviously a Paultard who should be banned. With extreme prejudice.

          • jakeofalltrades

            1. You’re taking obvious jokes as serious.
            2. You’re ignoring inquiry notice that your facts are wrong
            3. You’re defending Ron Paul
            4. You’re defending an ally of Ron Paul
            5. Overblown righteous indignation

            I’m gonna say you’re a Ronulan(3,4) of the leftist persuasion (1,2,5).

          • ghostship

            1. No I’m not. I’m complaining about how obscene they are.
            2. Huh?
            3. No, I’m not
            4. Actually I’m not. My comment was meant to illustrate how could pttx333 condemn MNConservative?s comment as below the belt in a thread where people are making jokes about forced sterilization.
            5. Excuse me for having a sense of decency.

            I’m going to say that you don’t know what your talking about.

          • jakeofalltrades

            6. Attempting to win a debate through argumentum ad victum.

            So, not just leftist persuasion, but pretty far left, huh?

      • Tbone

        And, yes, you missed the joke.

        However, just because some one is in the military hardly gives them the capacity for good judgment, does it?

    • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

      nt

      • Tbone

        And, I’m not even really much of a Laker fan so you can see I set the bar pretty low.

  • expanding_man

    After I determined Perry can’t win I’m leaning heavily toward Paul. He’s the only one left that even has a slim hope against nominee. That said I think Romney is very likely to be the nominee.

    I think more and more have determined that the only guy with any possbile shot against Romney is Paul. Of course that means I have to swallow some of the things that I don’t like about him. Still, he’s a world better than Romney, who is pretty much a Democrat and a man that will do or say anything in order to get elected. He believes in and stands for nothing other than himself.

    • trickamsterdam

      I just can’t believe that anyone could think that he did. He has finished a close third and a distant second.

      That is over-performing for Paul, but under-performing for someone who actually wants to win.

      In a way, the same applies to those who say they’d vote for Obama over Paul. That’s like saying if you ever met a leprechaun, you wouldn’t steal his pot of gold. I mean I get that it’s a very dramatic way of showing the person’s contempt for Paul, but it’s such an impossible scenario…

      I’d say more about this interesting phenomenon where both Paul’s friends and enemies act like he has a chance to actually win, but I’m typing on an iPhone that has a keyboard smaller than a chihuahua’s buttocks.

      • expanding_man

        He can generate money and has an organization across the country. No other non-Romney does.

  • deVere

    That didn’t work out very well.

    I dislike Romney, but I’d choose him over Paul in heartbeat.

    • MNConservative

      Your comment is probably more spot on than you think, as we’re going to lose to Obama if we nominate McCai… I mean Romney.

      • acat

        In both cases, the media are locked and loaded, and will perform the full Palin on them – just as they did to McCain – once they clinch… and in both cases, there are sufficient problems in their background that I don’t think either can overcome.

        Of course, I also wouldn’t spit on Ron Paul if he were on fire….but I’m prepared to say nice things about Romney if he wins the nomination.

        Meanwhile, I’ll be preparing for another four years of Obama.

        Mew

    • jakeofalltrades

      That’s an awesome metaphor. I nominate for Redstate Awards: Best Metaphor of 2012.

      I smell an awards diary in the making…

  • Common_Cents

    We do not elect platforms or records, we elect people. This is what I run into w/ Perry supporters as well. I don’t see the person as electable. Many others wouldn’t either esp in the general election.

    Even if he was, what could Paul possibly get done? We would have 100% bipartisanship in congress for first time ever, nobody on either side would lift a finger for Paul.

    If we had a major terrorist attack or military challenge, how would Paul handle that? Who would want him in charge of the football? or the military?

    What would he have done to respond to 9/11?

    I’m in MN too, the state that gave us Al Franken, Kloubachar, Mondale, Ventura. I quit drinkin’ the water a long time ago, opting for bottled water! :)

    • MNConservative

      For starters, there are thousands of executive orders he could cancel.

      His veto pen would indeed be mightier than the sword.

      Paul is strong on defence, just not willing to have our troops intervening everywhere we don’t have national security interest. Libya anyone?

      In the case of a major terrorist attack or military challenge, Ron Paul would do things the constitutional way… he’d ask Congress for a declaration of war.

      Hey, who are we going to run against Amy? She’s really vulnerable on the whole thrift store / yard sale killing lead ban… Are you leaning Severson, Hernandez, or someone else?

      • lineholder

        And not for a single second do I believe Ron Paul would be strong in defense of our nation…he’s too busy blaming us for the actions of other nations across the globe to defend us. After what he said about standing by and allowing the Holocaust to take place and doing nothing (if he had been President during that time), what leads you to believe he’d lift a finger to help our own people if he decided in his own conspiracy-filled mind that America was to blame? He’d be far more inclined to say “we should suffer the consequences” and do nothing!

        • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

          A dictator with extremely limited powers.

    • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

      I’ll have to catch the next one. Should we rename our dearly departed blogger as MNLoon?

      • conservativemusician

        The Rounulans are out in force and they can’t resist posting here and outing themselves.

        • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

          The bugs can’t help but be drawn to the light xD.

  • deVere

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gK4tEqWRok

    Ron Paul hates Israel, and is an apologist for Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Iran. He is even worse than Obama!

  • MNConservative

    OK, I watched the video.

    What makes you think he hates Israel?

    In what way were his words an apology for Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Iran?

    Please elaborate.

  • concap

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcKIsBcEA-8

    If I figured this out correctly, I think Ron Paul is anti-Zionist not anti-Semitic.
    I get the feeling most of, if no all the anti-Ron Pauli?s who are of the Jewish persuasion, are Zionist.

    It even looks like there are a lot of members on RS that may be Zionist as well.
    Is this correct?

    Is there any Orthodox Jew?s on this site, or any where, who is against Paul? I think not.

    Is there a way, way, way out possibility the Zionist are using the anti-Semite card to manipulate American Politics and are using our Military to do it?s bidding?

    It seams Fox News is as anti-Paul as they come. Is there a Zionist connection with Fox News?
    I heard Murdoch?s mother was Jewish. Is this true?

    About 75% of Israeli Jews are secular, that is, they do not subscribe to any version of Judaism. Most of them are Zionist and support the continuation of the state of Israel. However they do not even claim to be speaking in the name of Judaism since they do not believe in Judaism or the Torah. In America the percentage of secular Jews (out of those 5.2 million who acknowledge that they are of Jewish descent) is even higher.

    http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/visitorcomments/comment_details.cfm?ItemNo=1281

    After just now learning a little about the Jewish Religion, and the difference between Zionist Jew?s and Orthodox Jew?s, this has become a non issue.

    Looking forward to learning more, Thanks for your answers,

  • deVere

    In theory Paul is “neutral”, but in actual fact he first denounces Israel’s self-defense effort in stopping the ship, and then states falsely that Gaza is a “concentration camp” where people are “starving” due to the Israeli arms blockade (Hamas talking point; google “gaza markets” to see the truth)). For the latter claim he is corrected by Liberal radio jock Don Imus, who didn’t bother to correct Paul’s other false claim that the Hamas government of Gaza is freely elected ( it wasn’t), so we need to support it’s right to import arms to wage war against Israel(obviously not true in any event!).

    On other occasions Ron Paul has justified the 9/11 attack as a reaction to US ocupation of Arab lands, and also said that the US is needlessly provoking Iran, which he sees as a peacable nation that deserves it’s own nuclear weapons. Dr, Paul sees Islamists as local patriots who will be nice to us if only we leave them alone. He is quite sincere, but also quite deluded. I am not employed as a Ron Paul truth squad, and will not waste any more time searching for references. Search for yourself.

    In my opinion in the event of all-out war in the Middle East, Muslim communist Barry Obama would do something halfway reasonable under intense Congressional pressure. But President Ron Paul would be a man of principle, and would do absolutely nothing. If you subscribe to Dr. Paul’s extreme isolationism, you will be pleased with your choice.

    I subscribe to the joke that Ron Paul is 90% correct and 10% insane. But that 10% is an absolute show-stopper. I can’t vote for Ron Paul to be President under any circumstances.

  • jakeofalltrades

    I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.

    Neutrality with respect to Israel and the Jews is not enough.

  • MNConservative

    Ron Paul has never justified the 9/11 attack. What he’s done is explain why it happened. Do you really think they hate us because we’re rich and free? Ron Paul speaks of “blowback”… that’s not his term, by the way, and it’s not a Hamas term. It’s a CIA term for unintended consequences.

    Did you even watch the video I linked to? That video explains the historical context. Guess what… our big government doesn’t suddenly turn angelic when it exerts it influence overseas.

    Study history…

    What DO they teach in the schools these days?

  • jakeofalltrades

    It’s just a cover. If you are against the existence of the only place in the world Jews are truly safe from another Holocaust, then you are an anti-Semite. The rest is just details.

  • deVere

    There are some Orthodox Jews who believe that this phrase should be implemented without a Jewish State, but they are a small minority even among the Orthodox.

    Even those people who sincerely think it would be best for practical reasons to end the Jewish state, might agree that it would be a good idea to peaceably resettle the population there, and not allow such a change to occur by all-out nuclear war. Likewise, it might be a good idea to deter Russia from once again occupying the Baltic States and/or Eastern Europe, and China from attacking Japan. Ron Paul’s attitude toward Israel is just the most newsworthy feature of his extreme-isolationist views. In our system of government the President has almost exclusive control over foreign policy, and in my opinion a Ron Paul Presidency would be a disaster for the entire world, including the USA.

  • lapert

    …are postings like this loon right here. Let’s see, how many classic anti-semitic, zionist conspiracy canards can we cram in here.

    Orthodox Jews aren’t zionists? All secular Jews are zionists? Rupert Murdoch is Jewish (he’s not if you are using any source other than lunatic anti-semitic conspiracy web sites by the way)? Most Israelis support the continuation of Israel – shocking, I also read somewhere that most Americans are pro-America.

    This boy has learnt nothing of the Jewish religion though he has managed to learn some classic antisemitism. in the defense of one Ron Paul.

  • jakeofalltrades

    They’re surrounded on all sides my nations of people who believe it will one day be their to duty to hunt down and murder every last Jew in this world. Some believe the glorious end of the world cannot happen until they do.

  • lapert

    To be fair though, not all people who oppose policies of the Israeli government are anti-zionism and not all people who are anti-zionism are anti-semites.

    But it sure is common for anti-semites to justify their hatred as anti-zionism

  • concap

    that the term ?self-hating Jew? is just a cover for Zionist who down grade Jews who do not agree with the Zionist point of view?

  • jakeofalltrades

    Book 041, Number 6985:

    Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

  • concap

    The Jews on this web site are anti-Semitic?
    http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/about/visitorcomments/comment_details.cfm?ItemNo=1281

  • concap

    the day will come when the United States and it?s Military will no longer be the Gharkad tree.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9aVTs9eEYY&list=PL4E7095E082094785&feature=plpp_play_all

  • jakeofalltrades

    nt

  • Bill S

    You’d think a guy who has (or had) been here four years would know that shilling for Ron Paul is a membership-limiting experience.

    Oh well, another one commits blog-kari.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Those who blow up their online identities for the glory of Ron Paul and the promise of 72 days till the demise of Israel.

    He was seriously going there in another thread.

  • acat

    Student account.

    Mew

  • pttx333

    sniffing around, throwing around broad hints.

  • jakeofalltrades

    oops

  • lapert

    Sure, in the same way some people will use the term RINO to dismiss any Republican who disagreen with their particular pet issue. But the term and concept predate zionism and actually have a long history in Jewish psychology.

    And none of this is relevant to your clearly anti-semitic notion reflected in your ignorant comments.

  • jakeofalltrades

    They are entitled to the specific plot they are sitting on under international law. It’s theirs.

    The link between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism is a subtle one. I may get banned for this, but here’s an article at the left-wing British Guardian that discusses the issue. I have never really seen an exception to the rule that people who oppose Israel are anti-Semites, but I should be open-minded I suppose.

  • jakeofalltrades

    The ground invasion of Jenin, for example, should have been a carpet bombing. Also, Iran’s nuclear site should currently be a nuclear waste-filled crater.

    And I’m not even Jewish.

  • jakeofalltrades

    but I’m still waiting for a live example.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    Bye.

  • jakeofalltrades

    yawn

  • neodynium

    I will not even have a discussion on Ron Paul until I hear something definitive about his newsletters.

    The racism smear is often overused by our liberal media, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. This is one of those instances.

    Ron Paul will never get my vote as long as he keeps his over inflated ego and pretends he never heard about the newsletters, a lie his cult supporters eat up readily. Mistakes of the past don’t bother me too much, I would have been more inclined to forgive him if he said openly “I knew they were published in my name, I comdemn the message and it does not represent my views and I appologize for any offense it may cause.” Wait, but this is Ron Paul, an arrogant, elitist politician, who assumes that because he’s only run in an ultra-conservative district for THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, and can speak his mind because he’ll still waltz into office, that he’s the last pure, honest politcian. It turns out when you run for a political office that gives executive experience, you don’t have the luxury to crazy things without scrutiny. With these newsletters, Paul realizes he’s actually being held accountable in a close race for what he said and he’s become a sleazy politician saying the opposite of what he’s said in past interviews.

    While I find many other of his pconsider him until this one is solved.ositions unwieldy, I will not

  • acat

    the political-blog equivalent of acne.

    Every blog has some, some blogs don’t know how to get rid of it.

    Red State has a strict “wash, frequently” policy in place.

    Mew

  • http://impudent.edublogs.org/ kyle8

    it just never works out that way.

  • lapert

    I suppose it depends on how you define anti-zionist. I’ve seen the label used on people who disagree with Israeli policies in such a way as would put them well in the mainstream debate within Israel – those people aren’t (necessarily) anti-semites.

    On the other hand if you reserve it for people who insist Israel should not exist as a state and the Jews living there should be expelled then you clearly are dealing with an anti-semite.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Regardless of expulsion.

  • Scope

    As the diarist said, once you go Paul you can never go back. Once one contracts herpes, one can never go back And I would surely consider some of the Paultoids to be an infection that one can never get rid of, as stated by the author.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Blog acne! Web herpes! That’s just awesome!

  • pttx333

    revival on Broadway. ;-) I’ll pull the curtains …

    HAHAHAHAHA

  • jakeofalltrades

    Just in case.

  • lapert

    Then can we exclude Satmar Hasidim from anti-zionists who are also anti-semitic, because while they meet your definition for the former they don’t meet any meaningful definition of the latter.

  • jakeofalltrades

    Nice. So anti-Semitic anti-Zionists do exist.

  • jakeofalltrades

    oi.

  • texastaxpayer

    A pro Paultard diary? Is tribulations already here? Have I been “left behind”? WTF?? Someone, anyone call somebody that can fix this……

  • http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com nathanalbright

    ….you can keep believing they exist, but you just can’t find them no matter how hard you look.

  • jakeofalltrades

    is not much of an exception. It’s the exception that tests the rule.

  • gabs

    and feel that Israel is a sovereign state with a right to exist but that they need to do it with less of our money. Yes, those Jews exist.

  • jakeofalltrades

    But sure, some people may use that word in that situation.

  • gabs

    but what they are is Americans who happen to be Jewish.

  • http://travismonitor.blogspot.com Freedoms Truth

    We’ve paid Ron Paul several million in taxpayer dollars, and what victories for liberty does he have to show for it?

    NOTHING.

    Have you noticed that he never talks about his accomplishments but pontificates about how everything is broken?

    He talks no differently than a Marxist community collage professor, except he has a different set of ‘bad guys’ … not too different mind you, since his military industrial complex whines are straight out of leftist playbooks, and his Fed-hating is no different than the anti-semetic Bircher attacks on the Illuminati.

    Same old … same old. Ron Paul has been poison for conservative clarity, unity and common sense. Wrapping oneself in the constitution – well, even the ACLU does that, and it doesnt make them, or him, right.

  • jakeofalltrades

    No cookie for them. At some point, citing a stereotype becomes offensive.

  • constitutionalconservativeguy

    Thank you so much for this article. It wasn’t too long ago when an article like this never would have been allowed on this site. I respect people’s right to disagree, and I know that many people do not like Ron Paul for one reason or another. But thank you — to the author and to Red State — for posting this entry. I strongly urge everyone to take time to consider this article, to listen to the words of Ron Paul.

    “With Ron Paul as President we won?t have to worry about how far left he?ll backslide now that he?s elected. We won?t have to worry about another Medicare part D.” — how true this is.

  • mikeymike143

    Ron Paul, a career politican with a well deserved reputation for anti semitism, is currently drawing fire for making loads of money from racist newsletters that bear his name. On top of the recent revelations that the newsletters contained some really nasty comments about blacks, come brand new revelations that this piece of garbage also attacked Jews and gays in print.

    Let?s start at the top. We all know the Democrats are going to play the ?race card? against whoever the Republicans nominate. Count on it. Now imagine this scenario, heading our ticket is a candidate whose newsletter said this about Ronald Reagan(for giving Martin Luther a holiday), ?We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey day?. Or how about this little nugget of wisdom, ?Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions.? You might as well hand Nancy Pelosi her gavel back, because the stench from being identified with this lowlife is going to cause the Republicans to get decimated in every congressional race, as well as get Obama reelected.

    And it only goes downhill from there for ?Racist Ron?. Everyone knows Paul published racist newsletters under his name for profit. But did anyone ever wonder about the direct mailer ads that went out for these newsletters, and to see who they were marketed to. Well guess what REUTERS managed to get ahold of? The ads(which were signed by Paul) talk about the ?federal homosexual cover up of AIDS?. Of course that fits right in with Paul?s newsletter?s disgusting comment that people with AIDS ?enjoy the attention and pity that comes with being sick.? And of course at the bottom of the ad was a solicitation for $99.00 to subscribe to this newsletter, which would also give you Paul?s ?unlisted phone number? so you can recieve fast breaking news. I wonder how many suckers sent him 99 bucks. LOL

    And no column on this sleazebag would be complete without a discussion of Ron?s anti-semitic, neo-nazi pals. Did you know that this newsletter was listed as recommended reading in the directory of the Heritage Front, a neo-nazi hate group based in Canada? Or that his columns are repeatedly featured in the American Free Press, which is published by Hilter admirer and Holocaust denier Willis Carto. Ron Paul certainly knows his base, which is why he recently criticized conservative tea partier Michele Bachmann for hating muslims?. but yet has never condemned the anti semitic behavor of his dirtbag paulbot followers.

    Paul is also known for his friendship with white supremist Don Black. In fact, the former KKK leader and founder of white hate group Stormfront donated 500 dollars to Paul?s campaign in 2008. And Paul refused to return the money despite the pleas of Jewish conservatives. Is it any wonder that conservative David Horowitz of the Freedom Center wrote an article in February titled ?Ron Paul Is A Vicious Anti-Semite and Anti-American and Conservatives Need To Wash Their Hands of Him?. Or that the Republican Jewish Coailition banned Paul from their recent debate because of his anti Israel agenda. In fact, they said inviting Paul to speak would be like ?inviting Obama to speak?. Ouch. Maybe Paul?s wacky opinion that condemning the Hamas rocket attacks on Israeli women and children would cause violence didn?t sit too well with them.

    And the ?guilt by association? will be even worse for the tea party. I recently blogged an article here at REDSTATE showing that 93% of tea party members do NOT want Ron Paul as president. And also showing that Tea Party Fort Lauderdale, America?s longest running tea party, overwhelmingly voted nutjob Paul as the Republican candidate they LEAST wanted to see win the presidency.

    http://www.redstate.com/mikeymike143/2011/12/12/new-gallup-poll-nutjob-ron-paul-only-gets-7-of-the-tea-party-vote/

    But despite Paul?s rejection by the tea party, the press is undoubtedly going to try to tie this loon into the tea party in order to discredit it. The liberal press has wrongly and unfairly been trying to paint the tea party as racist. To no avail. Until now. And then they hit the ?mother lode?. A genuine racist with a documented paper trail of inappropriate comments and a busload of looney racist and anti semitic supporters. Hopefully tea party leaders will quickly denounce and ostracise this nutcase because real tea partiers are completely colorblind and would NEVER EVER condone these type of beliefs and comments. And this issue is NOT going away.

    And of course his followers are the dirtbags of society. Conspiracy loons, racists, anti war leftists, and anti semites. That is why most sites, including this one, have policies banning paulbots. I say they are a cancer to the both the tea party and the Republican party, and that we should treat them like lepers and shun them.

    http://www.redstate.com/mikeymike143/2011/12/23/there-is-no-way-the-republicans-can-nominate-racist-ron-paul-to-run-against-this-countries-first-black-president-not-with-those-newsletters-out-there/

  • mccoypauley

    It enables government deficit spending, so if you’re any kind of spending hawk, you have to oppose the FED or you’re pissing in the wind…

    The FED destroys the economy through credit manipulation and subverts free market interest rates.

    Steve Forbes would agree with me on this.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    hate Ron Paul and his enablers.

  • acat

    You just go try to use an Arch Card at Burger King and let me know how it works.

    Mew

  • Change Jar Conservative

    is that he has a chance to give us a brokered convention.

  • mccoypauley

    It doesn’t win elections and it doesn’t move humanity in a positive direction.

    Haters gonna hate and all that.

  • mccoypauley

    Are you implying that we wouldn’t have credit cards without the FED?

    If so, I am not sure you understand what the FED does.

  • jakeofalltrades

    I’m guessing you’re next.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    .

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    If you want Romney just cheer for him to win it outright?

  • gekster

    Was redstate.com ever redstate.org.
    someone posted that it was and I am just ciurious.
    I figured I would ask it here since this is a bull diary anyway.

  • jakeofalltrades

    with a change in the way the site looked.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    It was originally at redstate.org.

    When RS was reorganized as a for-profit, it became redstate.com.

  • rbdwiggins

    in July 2004. Essentially, it was a non-profit that provided a web-based community forum for conservatives and like-minded Republicans.

    I joined RedState in October 2004. Hard to believe that was more than 7 yrs. ago. Much has changed since then. Most notably: From intellectualism to activism.

    The switch to RedState.com was made in 2005 (Don’t recall the month.) in order to accept advertising. Which lead to hiring Erick full-time, and officially, RedState became part of the Eagle Publishing umbrella in January 2007.

  • APA Guy

    Exerting our influence overseas has led to a host of history-changing events…including the squashing of Nazi Germany, the death of countless terrorists including (but not limited to) Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, and the rescue of millions of oppressed and savaged innocents worldwide.

    And FYI…yes, radical Islam hates us because we’re rich and free…and because we treasure and respect women instead of treating them like dogs. Kissing their rings would lead to our demise…everyone but Paul and his bots seems to understand that…even Obama.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    effort. They don’t win elections (or cost us elections), they are a distraction and they aren’t generally a part of “humanity” – see racism and anti-Semitism.

  • acat

    The argument most Paul supporters put forth is that, after we abolish the Fed, we can have “private currencies”.

    This would mean that, depending on who you work for, you’d be paid in BoABucks, but your mortgage may have to be paid in ChaseScrip, and your doctor may only take CitiDinero… so the only ones who really win are Currency Exchanges.

    Mew

  • Bill S

    …the text with this:

  • jakeofalltrades

  • acat

    Ever hear the rumor that the reason Cleese isn’t Sir John is because of this sketch?

    Mew

  • mccoypauley

    The argument comes from Nobel winner Friedrich Hayek.

    Competing currencies (competition) will allow the market (regular folks) to decide what should be currency and ubiquitous.

    Right now, that can’t happen, because the government monopolizes currency, and refuses to use Constitutional currency (gold and silver) instead emitting bills of credit from thin air.

    That’s counterfeit, and its always ended with economic implosion from massive debt when it has been tried historically.

    THAT is why the FED should be ended. Interest rates have to come from the market, and reflect the level of available savings for capital investment. The FED chairman arbitrarily setting rates too low in order to stimulate booms, creates malinvestment, resulting in massive busts, like the Great Depression, and the economic crash of 2008.

    I would LOVE to debate economics with you. It’s my strong point.

  • http://908StraightSt.wordpress.com/ mbecker908

    You’ve got a case of osmosis academia, but in terms of useful knowledge, you’re the village idiot.

  • acat

    It’s *exactly* the situation you claim to want.

    One private currency – the Arch Card – that you believe the market – you and BK – can come to an agreement upon.

    All that’s gonna happen is that big companies will demand payment in the currency of their choice – with a service fee for paying in a different one – and consumers will end up with lighter pockets.

    It’s an idea that works nicely in academia, but it fails utterly in reality.

    Mew

  • jakeofalltrades

    It was so bad, we threw out our Constitution and wrote a new one.

  • Justin Spagnolo (standardcandle)

    …Please allow us to view Hayek in context… it helps us to point out where you went wrong in your practical application of conflating all principles of free market and money aggregates with monetary policies at the Fed…

    I’d like to see you make your argument in context is all…

  • jakeofalltrades

    Just curious.

  • gekster

    :)