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Biden: Expect Obama’s inexperience to be tested by our enemies.

And probably successfully, too. From their point of view.

I was under the impression that Biden’s job was to reassure American voters to go with the exceptionally inexperienced natsec pick. Not to let them know that he was going to not only be tested right off the bat, but that he would probably flunk:

ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

“Mark my words,” the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. “It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”

“I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate,” Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. “And he’s gonna need help. And the kind of help he’s gonna need is, he’s gonna need you – not financially to help him – we’re gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

See AoSHQ and Hot Air for more. The former is wincing at the idea of Joe Biden – a man who is always ready to tell you how smart he is, and if that doesn’t alarm you, nothing will – being the backup for Obama in a hypothetical crisis like this; the latter is helpfully reminding us that Kennedy’s own test of foreign was an “unmitigated disaster” that nearly ended up destroying Eurasia.

My own worries are slightly different. We can probably survive losing a diplomatic confrontation with Iran (unless they decide to do something stupid, like try to nuke Israel: then we won’t have to lose it): and our response to an invasion of South Korea by North Korea will at least have the virtue of simplicity. But if China decides to force a confrontation over Taiwan… well, if Obama wins then I recommend that the Taiwanese that aren’t ready to make nice with the PRC start acquiring passports ahead of time. Likewise, if the Pakistanis conclude that now is a good time to push India over Kashmir, sorry, guys: we had a change in administrations, and the new one isn’t particularly interested in maintaining good relationships with the world’s largest democracy. Then there’s the dark horse of Venezuela: I suspect that Chavez would dearly love to push around Uncle Sam a bit, and the potential there for a blindsiding of a hypothetical Obama administration is just too great to ignore.

And note: all of this assumes that the test will be essentially diplomatic in tone. Instead of, say, an anthrax attack on San Diego, or a radiological bomb set off in Jacksonville, or even a series of coordinated ground-level terrorist attacks in ten or twelve suburban locations. I am even less confident in the Democrats’ ability to produce an effective and measured response to renewed assaults on American citizens than I am in their ability to counter the diplomatic moves of regimes that don’t care if we like them or not. Given that I have zero confidence for them in that, I sympathize if that admission alarms you. It alarms me, too.

COMMENTS

  • LizVBronx

    This guy is out of his gourd! Joe the Senator strikes again.

  • gadawg225

    He really is the gift that keeps giving.

  • 1SGinTN

    He’s our useful idiot.

  • kllyhlls

    He’s asking the American people to do EXACTLY the opposite of what Democrats have done!

    When President Bush had to make unpopular decisions during wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, led off by a terrorist attack on our country, the democrats did everything possible to slaughter him in the eyes of the public.

    So, do as we say, not as we do.

    Good job, Joe.

    KK

  • gadawg225

    You’re right, the left hates when Bush, or Gov. Palin for that matter, say they don’t pay attention to polls.

  • Robert1

    I think what Joe meant to say was Obama’s weakness “will be exploited” over and over again by our enemies. Think of all the opportunities B. Hussein has: sell out Israel, produce defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq, renegotiate NAFTA and destroying relations with Mexico and Canada, signalling weakness to Russia on Georgia & Ukranine.

    Such opportunities when your possibilities are literally global.

  • Nepper

    Joe the Plumber vs. Joe the Dumber

  • jonathan_pujals

    in Teheran was raided and the hostages taken on November 4, 1979…please, America, we don’t need another useless, spineless, arogant leader, like “the one” in the White House at this time of worldwide pressures. November 4, 2008–exactly 29-years later–keep it in mind, and vote sensibly.

  • 29Victor

    You beat me to it.

    If he wasn’t in the Senate, what would he be qualified for?

  • QueenOfCups

    So much for “change”

  • blooch

    Colin Powell will be there to hold Lil’ Barry’s hand…won’t he?

  • ILLINOIS_CONSERV

    foreign affairs during the Russian excursion into Georgia his year. His silly remarks underlined a dangerous inexperience that should scare the hell out of every American. He basically voted PRESENT on the issue while McCain showed him what a true Leader would do. 3 days later BHO mumbled some response that interestingly echoed what McCain had said earlier. I bet Russia is just licking its chops at the prospect of BHO in the white house and a spineless liberal congress majority. Not to mention what our enemies in the middle-east are planning. God help us.

  • Nepper

    could spin yarn about long lost diners and surmise conversations of people real and imagined. Sort of like his documentarian brethren out in LA LA Land, perhaps.

    Seriously, he deems it necessary to come together as a people after “The One’s” ascention creates an inevitable international crisis? Where’s that mindset been for the last few years? Oh wait, nevermind. I got it.

    The difference is that I, and others of like mind, would stand by our country if a crisis did exist for ourselves or for others.

  • gman_2008
  • gghhamr

    “Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right.”

    Preparing us to accept either/or appeasement and realigning of alliances.

  • wt259

    I’m sure Vlad the Putin is. And Achmawhackjob too. But hey, Iran can close the Strait of Hormuz to all traffic and send some caviar to the WH to make things ok.

  • DavidS1787

    Vote McCain /Palin

  • James_Reynolds

    would happen and “it will appear we are not right” sounds like they themselves have a plan contrved up for themselves, otherwise how would he know it is going to happen, plus aready know what their response will be to know that america will perceive it as wrong

  • 29Victor

    If we just do everything they tell us to.

    Submit and do what you’re told. Don’t question or criticize and you won’t be “plumbed.”

    Could it be any simpler?

  • DavidS1787

    A good TV ad would be to put a Biden’s words up with the picture of the Iranian Hostage crisis and Jimmiy Carter’s terribly though out rescue plan and say can America afford another Jimmy Carter Policy?

  • James_Reynolds

    His response to another terror attack will to do nothing to strike back, but to call upon the people responsible to sit down and discuss their anger with him over a cup of coffee, lets find some common ground. Mccain response would be lets get’em

  • mfr2063

    For whatever purpose he spoke, Sen. Biden raises a very serious issue with potentially grave national security implications. If a Pres. Obama is tested early in his term because of his inexperience and perceived weakness in times of crisis, how tragic for our country. Is there any doubt how a Sen. McCain would respond to an attack? Perceived strength will deter some of the nut cases out there. Perceived weakness will invite testing.

  • Puritan

    Perhaps he is alluding to going to war and he is appealing to their base give him a pass.

  • Loadmaster

    With Nancy guaranteeing an Obama election and Joe guaranteeing an attack I’m just waiting on the DHS alert level moved to RED. We need to get ready now before January. I want our military at its highest state of readiness.

    We must take Biden words serious. Yea, we know he’s all mouth but this must be taken with the up most seriousness. We could be talking about American citizens lives. I just happen to agree with Biden..it’s going to happen. If Obama is elected…somewhere and somehow either the US or Israel will be in harms way. It’s that serious. This is NO laughing matter.

  • 1SGinTN

    to show he means business.

  • jenn

    secretly campaigning for McCain/Palin! I love it when they let him out of the closet. They’ll probably hide him again for another week after this, but you’ve gotta love that man!!

  • streetwise

    There’s not much that we community organizers can do for him if he’s unpreprared to play in the big leagues!

    We can chip in for supplies of TIDE to help out with those spots in your underwear. Count me in for a donation.

  • McCainForPrez

    nt

  • septembergurl

    The first year of Bill Clinton’s Presidency saw the WTC bombing. That was a test of ClintonHe failed, and we saw a decade of attacks on Americans. 2001, the first year of Bush’s e second WTC attack and Pentagon attack. Bush reacted quite differently from Clinton, and we saw an diminishment of attacks on Americans. There will be an attack by Al Qaeda on a major American city (probably Washngton DC) during the first year of the new Presidency. Unless the President is John McCain, because, as McCain says, he’s been tested. I think Al Qaeda knows what the response would be.

    Biden is just trying to prepare us for it.

  • Brian_F

    and BHO sits on his hands and doesn’t do anything, you are going to see people calling for his head within minutes. Then everyone who voted for him is going to regret doing so.

    Unfortuantely, even though we survived the 4 miserable years under Jimmy Carter, there was no direct attack on the homeland.

    Any attack on the homeland with a spinless response will embolden our enimies even more. I am afraid that the next four years with BHO as president will probably be some of the darkest in our history.

  • Swamp_Yankee

    This knock Powell right off the headlines. This is ad worthy. McCain needs a quick response ad on this. This is truly scary stuff. I called my local talk radio station. Conservatives need to push this.

  • lawguy9801

    I’m making a donation to the RNC – as should everyone else on this thread.

  • QueenOfCups

    Good grief!

  • izoneguy
  • MichaelBDR

    for a National Security Force

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEnNYN8sKbQ

  • nogyro35

    We’re all assuming that Obama will have to react to something.

    It is certainly possible that he knows Obama plans on doing something alone or with a foreign power which will knowingly create this “global test”.

  • izoneguy

    Biden

    No, thanks Senator Biden,
    I think America will pass on you
    & your running mate!

  • mrajkum

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hm7bVGaszg

  • DolorestheNurse

    I brought this up last night. Some stated they did not hear about it or that it was old news.

    On one fox alert, they stated “Israel is very nervous about the possibility of Obama being elected due to his comfort level with Iran.”

    Then, in another fox alert, it was stated
    “McCain and “the one” were summoned to Washington this weekend, for an emergency discussion about something big with terror.

    It was a quick statement in both reports and haven’t heard it again, until now in partiality when Joe Schmo came out with his, filibuster.

    Yep, he is making it easy on John now.
    He needs to keep on talking the talk.

  • MichaelBDR
  • JLenardDetroit

    The world, let alone just the US, the ObamaBinBiden “Surrender Dividend.”

  • redneck_hippie

    to make himself look intelligent by predicting the inevitable?

  • JLenardDetroit

    minor changes needed to the end voice-over, of course.

  • meyermom

    Obama has publicly said that he supports women being registered for the selective service the same as men….mark my words, many in the military will leave as soon as their enlistment is up. Why stay when patriotism is paying higher taxes! So Obama will need to fight his battles with new blood, and I doubt that his mindless followers will be volunteering. That leaves us with the draft. How do you feel about forcing our daughters and sisters into the military? I served in the Navy. Believe me, it is a man’s world that not many 18 year old women can handle. It is one thing to volunteer, another to be called up unwillingly. This is another ticking bomb.

  • andy764383

    Amanda Carpenter at Townhall.com thinks he is making advance excuses for Obama and lowering expectations, but I think there is more here than many commentators are seeing. We need to analyze his statements a bit more.

    Biden Gaffe: My Analysis

  • casel21

    I guess McCain should have picked someone as experienced and wise as Biden instead of Palin, who always seems to say really stupid things.

    Also, it is scandalous if he used information from the security briefing. How can McCain respond without compounding the breach?

  • Jack_Serious

    …there for any international crisis, we’ll need the Tide.

    Maybe Obama is smarter than he looks, he might have Joe on the ticket for his int’l advice so they’ll no what not to do.

    Barack Obama’s Wheel of Life

  • Mord

    You said: “mark my words, many in the military will leave as soon as their enlistment is up. Why stay when patriotism is paying higher taxes! “

    I say: The US military does not care who the CIC is. If you served, you should know this….oh and Navy man? HAHA! Yeah, Navy is not exactly posterboy for “Man’s world”, try the chAirforce, ye pansy!

  • Next93

    Ok, first thing he’ll do is remind us that the world hates us because of the Bush administratino. Then he’ll whine about it being a smear job, and then he’ll threaten to take his critics to court.

    See? He has a full-featured action plan ready to go!

    Whaddaguy!

  • WorkinPatriot

    “As a politician and a compassionate conservative I couldn’t find my ass with both hands”.? – Rudy Gewelliani

  • PaRep

    .

  • RPL

    Sorry if I’m rehashing, but here goes.

    After Obama is inaugurated, Israel falls out of favor. He has said as much. Two of his advisors are Samatha Power and Gen. Merrill “Tony” McPeak. Power was the one who suggested redeploying US Troops to invade Israel as long as they were in Iraq, and install a Palestinian state at the point of a gun. She also wondered how to do this without offending a major democratic lobbying group.

    McPeak was the one who stated that US policy will no longer be made in NYC and Miami.

    1) Israel’s support is reduced.
    2) Syria/Iran/Hamas/Hezbollah attacks, Israel defends, and the Obama administration backs Israel’s assailants.
    3) The pro-Israel backers in the US scream, and Obama/Biden must defend their actions.

    FWIW

  • Mord

    Joe the plumber is just some guy. He happens to have the self-confidence and grit to stand up to the national spotlight and unashamedly say he doesn’t like to pay taxes.

    Rove has nothing to do with Joe. Obama just walked into the wrong yard.

  • Mord

    WorkinPatriot….seriously?

  • Mord

    ColmesFan might keep the moderators at bay for enough time for a few posts.

    Marxist-in-MA….sounds authoritarian and edgeumicated.

    Input would be apreciated, I wanted to give it a go.

  • Moe_Lane

    NT

  • Rod_Patrick

    Of course the enemies will test Obama.

    But before that, Obama will prepare a banquet for all the terrorists to “befriend” them.

    America will have a regular monthly show of terrorists being given a presidential acknowledgement right there in the WH.

    Biden has forgotten that his Lord Obama is the Most Preferred Candidate of the Terrorists.

    Obama’s real foreign policy:

    Since Americans can’t beat ‘em, Obama joins them.

    In the end, America will be friends to Terrorists. That’s the idea of CODEPINK, MOVEON, CPUSA, DSA, Chicago DSA, WFP, ACLU, AFL-CIO,…,and OBAMA.

    CNN must be so happy. It shall be additional billions of dollars for CNN and the rest of the liberal MSM if they can compete with Al Jazeera even at the heart of Tehran.

  • Rod_Patrick

    If Obama goes to war then he is …

    HYPOCRITE ABOUT EVERYTHING HE SAID TO PRES. BUSH.

  • Rod_Patrick

    On a second thought, Obama is already a hypocritical politician and the biggest liar in Political History.

  • GregInFla

    Really? Or is that just made up?

  • GregInFla

    Note how he says we won’t like the reaction to the test. Can you say martial law here in USA? Looks like a 24 plot to me. Mark these words.

  • Han_Pritcher

    But it only aired once.

  • Putter

    *

  • Augustine

    It has to be a crisis, it has to involve a controversial response from Obama, and it has to be something that he hasn’t spoken about before (as that wouldn’t be fodder for Biden’s weird speculation). Barring Obama selling Taiwan out to the Chinese or refusing to defend South Korea i’d say that this involves responding to Israel bombing Iran or something bad happening with Pakistan. Whatever this is, it won’t involve sending bombers or troops anywhere because we know that Obama isn’t into either of those options so Obama’s response will be to put his stiff ivy league chin in the air and to offer to sit down and to talk to someone who we don’t like.

  • SpL

    I guess Joe’s a little jealous of the new kid as Messiah, so he goes for some action as Prophet.

    I think any new president is going to be a good excuse to mess with the US. I could predict that. But what’s with all of the detail. That at first it won’t look like it’s the right decision but asking people to stick with them….is almost crazy. It’s like he’s doubting that Obama will be any good at this president stuff.