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BREAKING: Obama aide contradicts Polish statement on defense commitment.

No word yet on whether this applies to the rest of NATO.

The only mitigating factor here is that the aide is contradicting the head of state, not the head of the Polish government. So there may be a retreat on this. If not… well.

Obama denies Poland missile vow

US President-elect Barack Obama has not given a commitment to go ahead with plans to build part of a US missile defence system in Poland, an aide says.

He was speaking after Polish President Lech Kaczynski’s office said a pledge had been made during a phone conversation between the two men.

But Mr Obama’s foreign policy adviser, Denis McDonough, denied this.

More via the AFP:

The statement by President Kaczynski appeared to put a different spin on the conversation between the two men.

“Barack Obama has underlined the importance of the strategic partnership between Poland and the United States, he expressed his hope of continuing the political and military cooperation between our two countries,” the statement read.

“He also said the anti-missile shield project would go ahead,” said a statement said.

Warsaw and Washington signed a deal on August 14 to base part of a US missile shield in Poland, despite Moscow’s opposition and mounting East-West tensions over Georgia.

The United States wants to base 10 interceptor missiles in Poland plus a radar facility in the neighboring Czech Republic by 2011-2013 to complete a system already in place in the United States, Greenland and Britain.

Washington says the shield — endorsed by NATO in February — is aimed at fending off potential attacks by so-called “rogue states” such as Iran, and is in no way aimed at Russia.

Bolding mine: please note Denis McDonough’s statement in that context.

“President Kaczynski raised missile defense, but President-elect Obama made no commitment on it,” Denis McDonough told Reuters.

“His position is as it was throughout the campaign — that he supports deploying a missile defense system when the technology is proved to be workable,” the adviser added.

Needless to say, this is all because of Russia’s decision to note the election of Senator Obama Tuesday by declaring its intent to deploy short-range missiles near Poland (over the objections of both the EU and NATO). What is not clear yet is whether this statement by McDonough represents future American foreign policy, or just a unfortunate lack of communication between the President-elect and his foreign policy spokesmen. I suggest that it turn out to be the latter; our allies need to know that we can be relied upon to fulfill our obligations, even when our government changes hands.

They can rely on us to fulfill our obligations, yes, Mr. President-elect?

COMMENTS

  • renegade

    If the aide was speaking the true intent, its deja vu all over gain.

    Instead of it being 2008, its like 1976 and we now have Carter II the sequel.

    The Kremlin roars and America turns tail. Maybe the Russians can have an Olympics or something so we can show then how tough we are by not showing up.

  • LoneApple

    Can we get through all of the Bush Administration before Mr. President-elect starts making policy?

    And what is President Bush doing right now? Why is he acting like it’s after Inauguration Day already? It’s really quite disheartening to watch him behave like he can’t wait to leave.

  • NightTwister

    It’s all part of assuring a smooth transition.

  • LoneApple

    Often ends by tripping over your own feet.

  • 10ksnooker

    You mean The naive One was jive talking the other countries on foreign policy? Not something you want to do when other countries citizen’s lives might hang on the balance.

    Reject Obamunism.

  • drothgery

    The Russians don’t have the Olympics until 2014 (and with any luck Obama will be out of office by then). And we’ll probably have 2016, which everyone will credit to Obama (they’re deciding early next year, but Chicago is the front-runner by a mile and a half), but is really about money.

  • QueenOfCups

    I know that is not the popular take, but hear me out – I know I have said this before and you are probably tired of reading it, but the reason Obama can throw his past associations under the bus so easily is because they were an easy conduit to power and he feels no genuine allegiance to them.

    I do not believe he is idealistically aligned with radicals, but saw them as a previously untapped source of power. As long as he remained blank and mysterious with a bit of Utopianism thrown in everyone could project anything on to him, including us.

    I think he is a power tripper plain and simple. He will do whatever he needs to do to protect his power, and that includes protecting the US power in the world. And the media will continue to play along, because they are so enamored of him. Just wait and see, the first punk to start trouble to test him is going to get a can of whoop-a$$ opened on them. THAT was what Biden meant when he said that people would not understand and be upset, but that they would have to trust. He wasn’t warning about weakness, which is what the pacifists want, he was warning about the “spine of steel” that the Code Pinks of his party were going to have to swallow.

    I rather doubt, especially since he chose Rahm Emanuel, that he is going to play softball on the world scene. Because that would require giving up and sharing some of his power, and that will not happen.

  • WinstonS

    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength

  • QueenOfCups

    I am picturing this visit to the White House on Monday: ” So, here it is, the Oval Office Hey, Barack, wanna sit in the in my chair to try it out – oh, yeah, you look real good sitting there all presidential and all :::glancing at his watch::: listen, I just remembered, I have to run an errand, can you answer the phone if it rings – I shouldn’t be too long.”

  • pilgrim

    .

  • Moe_Lane

    NT

  • Lords86

    This is a very, very disturbing development. Poland has been one of the US’s stalwart allies since September 11, for which we made certain specific commitments. Duplicity does not create respect amongst our allies, Senator Obama.

    It is not a stretch to suggest that you have had a rough first four days. Perhaps, it is time that you call your transition team together and remind them of a simple adage: Loose lips sink ships. If you and your team continue on your current path, this will be the shortest election honeymoon in American history.

    Destroying alliances before you’re actually President. Hmmm. Smooth move, Senator Obama.

    You are not our President now, Senator Obama. You do not direct American foreign policy now, Senator Obama.

    Before destroying America’s growing, mutually beneficial and important relationship with Poland, perhaps your “team” should keep their mouths shut.

  • QueenOfCups

    Or rather anticipated nightmare. I’m hoping he loves power to much to enact Card Check, Freedom of Choice Act, and Fairness Doctrine. Those fights would bring on such firestorms from the American people, even more than the Immigration bill they tried to pull of last year.

    I want to think that he loves power enough to want to keep it and therefore wants to be the kind of leader that doesn’t pi$$ off too many of the people, hence govern more to the center.

  • Jack_Savage

    His chief of staff has litle man syndrome – actually, little teeny ballet dancer man syndrome – and is a power tripper. Obama is all about image and being liked. A dangerous and unprecendented combination of Clinton and Carter – as incompetent as Carter and as pyschologically damaged as Clinton.

    He simply does not have any core principles to draw from, so the Obama foreign policy is going to be a combination of lurching from one crisis to another while allowing the evil powers that stroke his massive ego the time and space to gear up again.

  • Sanjong_Thapa

    President Obama = It’s morning in the Soviet Union

  • redalert

    I agree with you that Obama will not hesitate to throw his past associates under the bus. I also agree with you that he is on a power trip. However,I think it is nearly delusional to say he will be tough as nails. The choice of his chief of staff indicates he will play hard ball in domestic matters. It doesn not indicate that he will have the spine of steel in foreign affairs that Biden spoke of. If he is already hinting at abandoning Poland,who is next? I think it might be Afghanistan. Remember his pledge to send thousands of troops to that country and destroy Al Queda? Anyone who believes that is in for a rude awakening. This is a man who intends to consolidate his power in the U.S. He will probably pay less attention to foreign affairs than any President in the past. Our allies of the past should be very nervous right about now. By now I’m certain they are realizing what we have been saying all along. His word means nothing.

  • mom2oneson

    I don’t understand the reference you are comparing it to? TIA :)

  • Leverkuhn

    … means in the Obama lexicon? Screwing the Poles (one of our most loyal allies), appeasing the Russians, and shrugging off promises made. It didn’t take long for him to show his true colors.

  • LizVBronx

    Lovely Jack. I think you are on target.

  • Nixons_The_One

    Geez, this didn’t take long. I would have expected Obama to wait until at least January 20 before he waved the proverbial white-flag-of-surrender.

    I wonder how much of the progress in the nation’s missile defense system will be reversed by Obama. One of the best decisions Bush ever made- withdrawal from the ABM treaty. And guess who gets to be president when we may actually need missile defense in defense of our armed forces and our allies?

  • Swamp_Yankee

    Here’s the first group of the soon to be disillusioned masses that we can peel off in 2010 and 2012. Lets strt working on them now.

  • jcheney

    During the primary and general election we heard language full of comments like “I’ve been crystal clear on this” or “like I’ve always said.” The flip-flops occurred during the same month, the same week and even the same day. Some of who were listening wondered what he really believed.

    This is a man who wants it both ways.

    John Kerry: “I was for it before I was against it.”

  • wt259

    Poland, be the first ally of the U.S. to be thrown under the Obamunist bus. Hurry, you don’t want to let the Czech Republic be the first.
    Geez, Medvedev rattles a couple of rockets and the head Obamunist lays the ground work for caving.

  • QueenOfCups

    He gave up his guaranteed for life seat in congress, his chance at being speaker of the house – if this goes badly he will be done.

    Chicago politicians do not give up their power.

  • Putter

    heh, Lurch is going to be Secretary of State.

  • Hera

    Putin is a former KGB agent who killed people, Obama is a former community organizer and wannabe thug.See the difference. The Russians will chew him up and spit him out. The Russians are making moves now because they smell weakness and blood in the water.

  • mom2oneson

    nt

  • QueenOfCups

    And if he screws things up too badly GOP will have the house and senate back in 2010.

    I just don’t think he will do it. Americans won’t stand for weak leadership and he (and if not him, Rahm) must know that is the quickest way to lose power.

  • QueenOfCups

    I don’t see him power – sharing with the likes of Putin.

  • Shaggy_Dog

    Poland has always been one of the countries most hated by the left- for its anti-communist passion, its conservative Catholic heritage, and its unapolagetic pro-Americanism.

    Poland will very quickly get a nice view of the bottom of the bus as soon as the Obama administration gets up and running.

  • clintonformccain

    Yep. His favorite prolog to a flip-flop was:

    “No, what I said was….”

    And then he would proceded to tell an absolute lie about what he said, even when there was video evidence contradicting himself.

    Think about it. Two conversations with heads of states and two “explanations” from Obama’s people on what he “really” said.

  • Hoover

    but if he doesn’t do the card check, or freedom of choice garbage he’ll have the abortion groups and unions after him. He really is between a rock and a hard place on many of those issues. Either way he is going to get one group ticked, the voters/public or the lib groups. Remember they spend hundreds of millions and put in a huge efforts for his election.

    They want what they paid for. Also, lib’s in congress have been out of power for essential 14 years (since ’94) and they will be next to possible to contain. People like George Miller, Barney Frank, Pete Stark, Rangel, etc. have been in washing a VERY long time and I doubt they’ll relent to someone there for 4 years, two of which were running for President.

  • gamecock

    with no loyalty. He is apower tripper, but its not plain and simple.

    But you make good points. Esp with my caveats!

    smile

  • Marcus_Traianus

    Obama is already speaking to Medeved and the Oval office isn’t even vacant. I posit their dialogue includes the word “comrade” and plenty of guffaws coming from both sides.

    Iraq is now virtually begging us not to leave.

    Hamas continues to gratuitously fire rockets at Israel with relative impunity.

    Iran is ramping up nuclear production.

    60 million people can’t be wrong, can they? The press and Obama sold our country a proverbial Brooklyn Bridge. You wanted “change”? Buckle up folks.

  • dglenn

    Pelosi and Harry will shelve FOCA, Card Check, and FD until Bambi’s second term when he doesn’t have to worry about reelection.

  • mom2oneson

    We should canvas those areas.

  • dglenn

    But it’s not like a bridge to nowhere in Alaska wasn’t up for sale :)

  • goldenboy

    This is the problem with having 300 foreign policy advisors and taking every side of an issue (think NAFTA, etc…) during the campaign.

    This was an inartful statement. It signals weakness to the Russians and forces the Poles to take a more subservient position to them.

    Just as with the economy, uncertainty is poison in these matters.

    The spokesperson should have deferred to the sitting president without taking a position the way Obama rightfully did on Iran.

  • mdc

    the election I decided that it will not be the USA I feel sorry for, after all we the people elected this excuse for an empty suit.
    No, the people I will feel sorry for are the people of:
    Ukraine
    Georgia
    Poland
    Israel

  • smagar

    Is anyone surprised by this? We saw this one coming from miles away.

    O has promised to stop investing in “unproven” anti-missile technology…the same kind of technology we’ve promised to deploy in Poland.

    If the Polish-American community missed that, then maybe Archie was right. Maybe they are a bunch of meatheads.

    I’m eager to see the Polish-American vote totals from this election. If they went overwhelmingly for O, I’ll find it hard to muster much sympathy for them.

  • Swamp_Yankee

    Poles are not meatheads. I’m Polish. Most people got caught up in the Obama hype. In fact, the Polish border question was not well publicized. There were many groups that got suckered into voting for Obama for worse reasons including investors, Jews, the whole middle class.

    The point is not the guilt or slander them into contrition. The point is to build up new alliances. And yes Poles vote along the same lines as the urban East Coast Irish and Italians. They are part of the old FDR/JFK urban Catholic coalition.

    They are not liberal though. Just Democratic party loyalists

  • QueenOfCups

    Yabba Dabba Nutjob & Company are not happy with The One

    So, I guess tea with Iran’s leaders is off the table.

  • Jill1066

    Sen. Obama clearly took Bill Clinton’s “permanent campaign” lessons to heart. That “Change.gov” website is nothing less than the start of his re-election campaign. He’s soliciting his followers to log in and provide their names, contact information, and personal stories of how they were affected by his victory. All of it is undoubtedly feeding into a database that he’ll use to create his online community of followers. These will be the virtual “shock troops” he’ll mobilize for letter-writing campaigns, talk radio host intimidation phone calls, and of course – fundraising.

    The casual voters tend to disconnect from politics after the big campaign is done. He’s trying to expand his network of followers while they’re still juiced up so he can keep them engaged and on his side. An emailed newsletter now and again will go a long way towards keeping them “informed” about “their progress”.

    It’s really quite brilliant if terribly cynical.

  • NJChris

    I think this is smart. It worked for Clinton. I am not sure as to the $$ the RNC has left but I would continue the campaign against the ideas Obama presented during 2008.

    RNC needs to own the phrase “All Obama promises come with an expiration date…” or another: “Change? Not now but coming…”

  • wt259

    I know where you’re coming from. However, their parents should have passed on to them the story of Yalta. FDR, and Churchill, gave Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe away to Uncle Joe. And if they are part of the East coast Irish-Italian Catholic coalition, then they not only ignored history, they ignored their church. Sorry, but the Obamunist has been forthcoming, in this at least, as to his thoughts on policy. Eastern Europe, not so much. But, “unproven missile defense technology”, yeah he’s been quite clear.
    And on the protection of an unborn child.

  • Paul_In_Houston

    On election day, the Ace of Spades website posted a picture of two Iraqi women, with purple-stained fingers showing they had voted in an election.

    It was a “Get Out The Vote” message, noting that whatever hardships or inconveniences YOU may experience by voting, “These women literally risked their lives to vote”.

    My first reaction to that was, “And THE ONE can hardly wait to sell them out”.

    One of my biggest worries about Obama is that his rhetoric on Iraq, and rumored comments about Israel, show an almost casual willingness to sell out allies when convenient.

    A commenter on another blog asked, ?Who appointed us to be their guardians? Why is it America?s job to make sure they are safe??

    I feel the answer is we’d rather not have the entire world as a nuclear-armed camp, based on the idea that the more countries with these things, the greater the chance that some will eventually be used.

    Our alliances with these countries are not out of the goodness of our heart, but for our own best interests. Sell one out, and you can bet the others will sure take notice.

    It seemed that commenter was saying, ?To hell with them, let them take care of themselves!?

    Well, the problem there is they might do exactly that, and we might be less than thrilled with the results.

    If countries under threat (Taiwan, maybe South Korea, even Japan) think our word is no longer any good, they?ll almost certainly feel the need for self-sufficiency in nuclear arms as the only real deterrent to someone like China. And note, those countries ALL have the necessary economic, industrial and technical wherewithal to go nuclear. All they need do is make the decision.

    Others, in the Middle East will want them to deter Iran. How about Saudi Arabia and Egypt? Maybe Libya decides that abandoning their efforts was a mistake. THOSE countries may lack the technology, but they can certainly finance it.

    It could just go on and on.

    THAT, I feel, would be a very likely consequence of us deciding to just disengage ourselves from these countries.

    We?ve tried successfully, and for a long time, to convince others that they did not need them, because WE would provide the protection of a nuclear umbrella.

    When they decide they can’t count on us, the whole thing unravels.

    If that commenter gets his wish, and they DO take care of themselves, it could get real interesting for us as well.

    Seeing that we also reside on the same planet, I think it almost impossible we would remain unaffected.

    So, standing up for our allies is not merely a nice thing to do; it makes the hardest kind of common sense.

    Simply put, we protect others in order to protect ourselves.

    Abandoning them, selling them out, would be an unbelievably short-sighted (as in STUPID) thing to do, and would hurt us more in the long run. No one would trust an agreement with us; and why should they, given such a record?

    Instead of being worth anything, our word would only be noise.

    And that would be tragic, because WE set its’ value, by our actions.

  • smagar

    In fact, the Polish border question was not well publicized.

    Swamp Yankee, if the Polish-American community can be so blinded by Obamamania that it would forget the Katyn Forest, or the fact that the advancing Russians paused outside Warsaw in 1945 so the Germans could wipe out the Polish partisans who’d risen up in anticipation of the Russians’ arriving…well, that doesn’t speak well for Polish-Americans, does it?

    For the record, I didn’t know how Polish Americans voted. Notice that the tiele of my comment started with the word “If.” For all I know they went heavily for McCain.

    It seems to me that your comments are the most damning to Polish-Americans.

    They are part of the old FDR/JFK urban Catholic coalition.

    They are not liberal though. Just Democratic party loyalists

    Well, I’m sorry to have to be the one to point this out, but the de facto leader of their Democratic Party is singing a song that’s music to Putin’s and Medvedev’e ears.

    Oh, and BTW, I think you tried to sneak in a cheap shot in your title. “Would You Dare Say The Same Thing About Jews?

    I don’t get what you mean. Please put yourself on record and be specific.

  • smagar

    Slip of da fingers!

  • Jaded

    nt

  • Paul_In_Houston

    He doesn’t appear to want anything to do with them.

    (But I’ll bet he can hardly wait to meet Chavez.)

  • smagar

    The point is not the guilt or slander them into contrition.

    I’m pointing out that choices have consequences.

    And, as for “slandering” them—well, I’m sorry Swamp, but if if if Polish-Americans did indeed vote for Obama while being oblivious to The One’s position on missile defense—and the impact of that position on Poland’s security—then IMO they were meatheads.

    Putin and Russia are looking to bully Europe once again. Pray tell…what country do you think they’ll bully first? Just whose country did Polish-Americans think that Russia would squeeze first?

    Notice how Medvedev challenged The One less than 24 hours after the election was over. Over Poland, no less.

    Funny, but the Russians don’t seem too intimidated by The One.

    I sure hope the Polish-American bloc in the Democratic Party can put some spine in Barack’s back PDQ. It doesn’t sound as if the Russians are fooling around.

  • smagar

    which borders Russia.

    Belarus, BTW, is a de facto dictatorship closely allied with Russia.

  • gamecock
  • itrytobenice

    You guys are scaring me. I had about deluded myself into believing that he would not govern as he is, but rather as he would need to be in order to get re-elected.

    But with you guys’ comments, I’m reminded of many of the reasons I voted against him. I sure hope we’re wrong.

  • nogyro35

    This is not a military secret, so I can discuss this as a Marine veteran. If you live in Japan, as I did for most of the last 3 years, you quickly learn that their society is ready to provide for their own defense.

    The last step will be to alter the military restrictions placed on them from WW2, and then they will have a full Army, Navy, and Air Force.

    As someone how has been to Hiroshima many times, I’m not sure they will adopt Nuclear Warheads anytime soon, unless North Korea threatens or maybe Taiwan falls.

    PS. Great post.

  • hunter

    His mentors have all been anti-Americans.
    From his ghost writer to his preacher to his professors at Columbia, to his mortgage fraud enabler. They have all been resolutely against American interests.
    Do you think he was just playing them?

  • Scope

    In my opinion, the most important part of the statement/spin is “he supports deploying a missle defense system when the techonology is PROVED TO BE WORKABLE.” So what does that mean? that we are building something that hasn’t been tested? I think not. It’s a way out.

    When I consider what Obama said in reply to the Russia/Georgia conflict- that Georgia needed to practice restraint- there’s your answer. He will talk nice to Russia, and he will HOPE to CHANGE their evil minds.

  • mbecker908

    a sellout of the Iranian government headed by the Shah which was explicitly pro-American and a strong ally in the ME. The trail of policy changes and public statements that were contradicted by Carter and his minions gave us the Iranian government we face today.

  • SteveLA

    mbecker,

    Mohammad Rez? Sh?h Pahlavi sitting on the Peacock Throne was not exactly a paragon of virtue, and the pattern of over boarding our friends goes back even further as a “blood on their hands” phenomena brought to you by Democrats.

    President Ford did little to counter the Democratic controlled congress from cutting off funds to the South Vietnam government, precipitating the fall of the Republic of Vietnam. History does have a way of repeating itself and cutting and running may be a Democratic genetic flaw.

  • antisocial

    In this dangerous times President Bush is doing his best to ensure “greens” don’t have a “newbie” excuse when crisis comes up. However Mr. President should send out a message to Mr. President elect that he should not opine on policy until he is in Oval Office.

    “His position is as it was throughout the campaign — that he supports deploying a missile defense system when the technology is proved to be workable,” the adviser added.

    To me “workable” looks like he is already backing out.

    As Gov. Schwarzenegger said “If only we could do something about putting some meat on his ideas.”

  • antisocial

    If you followed the campaign you would not be saying that. Or even if you followed “history”. Look at the democrat Presidential history. Should I call it “ignorance” or “wishful” thinking? I see problem in the caucuses. And I see a nuclear Iran by the end of Barack Obama’s first term. I also see chaos in Iraq.

    George Santayana: Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it