[UPDATE] Since Jim Treacher in comments here asked: “Then what are you worried about,” Chuck?
61/36, with Collins, Snowe, & Specter voting for cloture (Gregg is sitting this one out and Coleman can’t participate in this Congress yet). In other words, the Democratic Party now owns an 800 billion dollar debt plan.
They’re welcome to it, in fact.
So can we get to the final vote and the signing, already? We have midterm elections to plan for.
Moe Lane
Crossposted at Moe Lane.

Jim Kelly
Caleb Howe
Dan Spencer
James Richardson
Yep, they can own it
izoneguy Monday, February 9th at 6:58PM EST (link)I think the biggest blunder that Obama made was rushing this through so fast. This will give us plenty of time to show them that it is making things worse. If Obama would have waited another 5-6 months they could have timed the 2010 elections to greater effect. Perhaps Obama was thinking if he waited too long then the economy would have been in recovery mode and he would have wasted his crisis.
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
They want to shove this through fast
Return to Revolution Monday, February 9th at 8:54PM EST (link)because even if it backfires now, the Democratic Party will be set for a generation. None of the items in this bill will be undone very fast, even if Republicans gain majorities in 2010 (which is unlikely in the senate since Republicans still have more seats to defend for the 2010 midterm). Plus, the bill is designed to start most of the spending around 2010, right about the time of the elections, and when the economy will probably be in better shape.
The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it.
Nationalized Heathcare is part of the stimulus..........
Kenny Solomon Monday, February 9th at 7:05PM EST (link)I’ve been saying this for a bit of time now.
Maybe somebody will actually listen when they can’t get care for their parents or themselves.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs
Kenny Solomon
DC Works For Us
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A South Florida-based patriots organization.
“The framers of our Constitution knew that the government should never have a monopoly on force, that’s why they articulated our God given right to self defense and ensured the right to keep and bear arms was written in our Bill of Rights. Let’s not forget, George Washington didn’t use his right to free speech to defeat the British, he shot them.”……………………. ‘Captain Dave’ Funk, Cand. IA-3
Now that this has passed
woodsman Monday, February 9th at 7:12PM EST (link)what will the reaction be to the next TARP giveaway program coming soon from the Sec. Treasury? If these spending programs were water, the Left has their version of water boarding the nation.
I am so disgusted
angryred Monday, February 9th at 7:16PM EST (link)and sad; I know my kids will be paying this crap off long after we’re dead. That makes me depressed.
1-20-13 Hope for Change
Yes, that is pretty much how I feel. It's bad enough for
Praying Monday, February 9th at 7:40PM EST (link)me and my husband, but to think that our kids - and their kids - will be burdened with this (either in sky high inflation, or a debt that will be drowning them for generations), through no fault of their family, is CRIMINAL!
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it pleases me to know that a blogger as wise as praying is a female - bravo - nt
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, February 9th at 7:45PM EST (link)Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
OWN IT DEMS!!
phxg Monday, February 9th at 7:16PM EST (link)Now, how shall we go about dismantling it after 2010?
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle
Let's hope we still have free elections to do so, or the consequences are beyond dire. nt
Kenny Solomon Monday, February 9th at 7:18PM EST (link)Kenny Solomon
DC Works For Us
http://www.dcworksforus.com
A South Florida-based patriots organization.
“The framers of our Constitution knew that the government should never have a monopoly on force, that’s why they articulated our God given right to self defense and ensured the right to keep and bear arms was written in our Bill of Rights. Let’s not forget, George Washington didn’t use his right to free speech to defeat the British, he shot them.”……………………. ‘Captain Dave’ Funk, Cand. IA-3
Free elections?
mbecker908 Monday, February 9th at 7:47PM EST (link)Between giving ACORN about $4B to
rig electionsregister voters and giving unions card check tofund the Democratic PartyorganizeWalMartoppressed workers, just how do you really feel about the idea of “free and fair” elections?Congratulations, Arlen, Collins, & Snowe
6eorge Jetson Monday, February 9th at 7:24PM EST (link)(Sorry for repeating the article title.)
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That is the key. We will regain the majority. The question will be if we have the guts to
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, February 9th at 7:25PM EST (link)FIRE govt employees.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
I'm hopeful that since a big chunk of the
phxg Monday, February 9th at 7:40PM EST (link)spending won;t kick in till 2010, our side will have the ability to at least suspend some of it.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle
the ability will depend on several things
Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, February 9th at 8:00PM EST (link)GOP President
GOP house and
60 vote GOP senate
and guts and will
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” - Andrew Jackson
That would do it. I plan on doing my part here, nt
phxg Monday, February 9th at 8:05PM EST (link)It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle
Short answer?
mbecker908 Monday, February 9th at 7:55PM EST (link)No.
Snowe? Specter? Collins? Impossible.
asleep06 Monday, February 9th at 7:49PM EST (link)Those are the fiscally conservative social lib– moderates we’ve heard so much about. Clearly, it wasn’t actually them, or maybe they were coerced? Or just kidding?
…
Small is beautiful.
How's this for a prediction....
St_Louis_Conservative Monday, February 9th at 7:54PM EST (link)1. Obama and the Democrats ram through a stimulus bill with a few moderate GOPers.
2. Obama and the Democrats suffer in the short-term because of deficits and Republicans and talk-radio lambasting the pork and wasteful spending. The GOP scores wins in Virginia, NY-20, and comes close in New Jersey.
3. Sometime next year, the economy will begin to rebound (as it always inevitably does), just in time for the 2010 elections. Obama and the Democrats regain in the polls and trash Republicans for opposing the stimulus when it (as they will claim) is the sole reason for the economic recovery. The stimulus had absolutely nothing to do the economic recovery, but it doesn’t matter - the media gives the stimulus (and Obama) all the credit.
4. Democrats get all the credit for the economy rebounding, and Republicans poll numbers plummet (the economy recovered in spite of, not because of the stimulus - but the public doesn’t get it). Obama is hailed as an economic guru in the press. He stumps in key senate races in Florida, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Missouri.
5. Flush with billions in taxpayer money from the stimulus, ACORN enables the Democrats to score a smashing win in the mid-term elections, giving a major boost to Obama and his left-wing agenda, and neuters Republican opposition. The 2010 Rahm Emanuel-directed census allows Democrats to lock in an almost insurmountable electoral advantage for a generation.
That’s an admittedly pessimistic take, but I am pissed off right now. Please, someone refute this stuff - I am stuck in a negative cycle right now.
“…..women and minorities hardest hit”
You forgot something.
mbecker908 Monday, February 9th at 7:58PM EST (link)You forgot the new money that will find it’s way to Democrats from unions flush with huge new membership rosters from card check.
And I think you’re an optimist.
I'm with 'Becker; you're way too optimistic. nt
Achance Monday, February 9th at 8:01PM EST (link)In Vino Veritas
Probably optimistic by Census isn't as bad!
TallChE Monday, February 9th at 8:14PM EST (link)The fight over the census is important, but it isn’t the real battle. Obama-Emanuel want to use sampling instead of the actual count to try and minimize the population loss from states like Michigan. However, the census only derives the number of representatives per state, not the districts within each state. That is the responsibility of each state (http://www.census.gov/population/www/censusdata/apportionment/delivering.html). That is why the 2010 state legislature elections are so important. It is those members who get to decide how to draw boundaries.
Barry's on TV right now......4,000,000 jobs.....
Beasley Beesmeal Monday, February 9th at 8:04PM EST (link)We’ll be able to go on-line and look at where Every dime will be spent……And it has NO EARMARKS…….
LIAR
It Doesn't Have Earmarks
ATLconservative Monday, February 9th at 8:28PM EST (link)Why do you need earmarks when you already have every pet project you’ve ever wanted already in there?
It depends on what your definition of is is
JustLeaveMeAlone Monday, February 9th at 8:49PM EST (link)Yup, no earmarks. No pork, either.
But if it smells like bacon and flaps like an earmark….. why, it’s demosuperstimulus! Laisez le bon temps roulez, suckers!
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” Thomas Jefferson
Here's what bonehead Summers forgot
Jack_Savage Monday, February 9th at 8:05PM EST (link)‘ “Those who presided over the last eight years — the eight years that brought us to the point where we inherited trillions of dollars of deficit an economy that’s collapsing more rapidly than at any time in the last 50 years — don’t seem to be in a strong position to lecture about the lessons of history,” Summers said on ABC News. ‘
Of course, Democrats presided the last two years. Idiot.
Any damn fool can stimulate an economy if he writes $850 billion in hot checks
Jack_Savage Monday, February 9th at 8:06PM EST (link)ANY damn fool
He sucks when he has to answer questions....have you noticed?
Beasley Beesmeal Monday, February 9th at 8:07PM EST (link)lol
The youtubes from this are going to RULE!
Beasley Beesmeal Monday, February 9th at 8:08PM EST (link)np
Hey Barry?....you are no Bill Clinton!
Beasley Beesmeal Monday, February 9th at 8:13PM EST (link)uggg
4 years of these pressers are going to be Painful
Beasley Beesmeal Monday, February 9th at 8:16PM EST (link)Fallen soldiers...
antisocial Monday, February 9th at 8:44PM EST (link)I don’t want to give you an answer. will review.
Afghanistan - Will review. Going to need more effective coordination… bottomline… difficult… 3000 Americans.. families… smartly.. effectively.. I do not have a time table…..
What was that?
Banks… Show up at Tax Cheats call.. Terrific… Main street.. Package…
What was that?
Major Garrot… Biden.. 30% chance going wrong? do you agree?
Obama: Ha ha ha… I don’t remember Let me suggest what Joe might be referring… I won’t put a number… unprecedented problem. consensus… eggs in one basket… I don’t know.. I have no idea…
What was that????
arrrrgghhhh
Go AWAY….
I am getting ready for Sean’s program…. Please go away…
You know what Harry Reid’s campaign slogan is? Vote for me or my wife gets beat up. - Rush Limbaugh
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What is to be done?
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No. You can’t - Moe Lane
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We shall fight in the air, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields, we shall fight in the hills — for 18 months. Then we start packing for home. - Charles Krauthammer
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
Re: Hey Barry?....you are no Bill Clinton!
ATLconservative Monday, February 9th at 8:40PM EST (link)Is it just me, or is he purposely talking slow so as to avoid as many questions as possible.
Pre-planned questions, I might add. This is pathetic. He defends what we’ve all called pork as the bill’s infrastructure projects. Who is the reporter that will follow-up with the “real” pork that’s in there?
"so called terrorists....."...Helen Thomas
Beasley Beesmeal Monday, February 9th at 8:46PM EST (link)kick her out …..now
That ogre was really looking for The One to out the Israeli's on nukes....
JadedByPolitics Monday, February 9th at 9:18PM EST (link)I commend him ONLY for not answering it! She is such a tool and what is with the Huffington Post getting called on….they are SO FAR FROM a legimate news organization….it’s going to be a long 4 years!
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
yep...huffpo question...."when ya gonna get Bush?"
Beasley Beesmeal Monday, February 9th at 9:21PM EST (link)the only thing that presser did was contribute to Gorebull warming..
5 to that!....nt
JadedByPolitics Monday, February 9th at 9:25PM EST (link)…
Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy
Interesting - this is exactly how Specter spun it
Jack_Savage Monday, February 9th at 9:09PM EST (link)I listened to that stumbling has-been on Sean Hannity’s radio show today, and his talking points were exactly the same as Obama’s.
Reality
WSG Monday, February 9th at 8:29PM EST (link)Those predicting economic recovery are giving this bunch of marxist fools way too much credit.
If and I do mean IF a recovery happens it will be shallow and short.
What has occurred policy and action wise in the last couple weeks is just a start to the marxism/ eco-socialist nonsense.
Couple all the fear they are spreading NOW with the reality within the business community that these idiots actually do mean to bankrupt the coal industry, levy carbon taxes on everything that breathes or combusts and punish - tax- anyone that produces/ works and the what hiring that does occur will be near nil.
Throw in an international - read ME- event that drives energy back into the $4-6./gallon range and Carter’s years will be a picnic.
They are weak on law enforcement and lousy on national defense so we can expect crime and domestic terrorist attacks to rise or occur.
Reality, will bite Obama
izoneguy Monday, February 9th at 8:34PM EST (link)I love when he says that government is the only solution. OK, the business people of America will give it a chance. I bet more layoffs now that the fix is in. Wonder what the stock market will do tomorrow?
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
Pre-Empt Their 2010 Message
ATLconservative Monday, February 9th at 8:32PM EST (link)When this does pass, and when the economy does recover in spite of this stimulus, he is going to get all the credit.
We have to be out in front of that, making sure to say that it will recover regardless, but it is 10 years down the line that we need to worry about.
I don't think the economy as a whole will recover.
izoneguy Monday, February 9th at 8:38PM EST (link)Obama is not an economist. He likes to act like one on TV. Remember what Reagan inherited? The economy won’t recover until business people have a good feeling that an investment in labor and materials will bring a return. Now the Federal government is the competition. Who wants to play those odds?
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson
Re: I don't think the economy as a whole will recover.
ATLconservative Monday, February 9th at 8:49PM EST (link)Well, the last thing I’d ever think of him as is an economist…
But whether it truly does recover or not as a whole, it’s always possible to spin it as having done so, and so I just think we need to be prepared for that.
Maybe or maybe not
Kyle-MI Monday, February 9th at 9:17PM EST (link)In spite of this bill and all the other economic stupidity put forth by Obama and the Democrats, the drop in the price of oil and gas could give an actual real stimulus. Of course with them blocking new drilling and all the other things they are saddling domestic energy production with - as well as the OPEC cuts in production - if the world economy does kick in, oil and gas prices will be back on the rise and could strangle the economy again. It will all come down to a question of timing. If it does recover, will it happen just before the 2010 elections? And will the resulting oil price shock hurt before or after the elections?
What a waste
Kyle-MI Monday, February 9th at 8:57PM EST (link)Why in the world is Obama wasting money and contributing to global warming by flying around the country campaigning? He has and always had enough votes in the House and Senate to pass whatever pleases him. This is all just a big political stunt. He doesn’t care about the country. All he cares about is his own political standing. All he wants is to grind any Republican into dusk. I am sick of this and the toady press that is playing it like the whole bill is on the verge of collapsing - I wish.
Phone registers
redneck_hippie Monday, February 9th at 9:07PM EST (link)which would enumerate the number of phone calls placed during the presser, from corporate board rooms to the Belize Economic Development Commission.
I’m thinking the number is > 0.
Over/under?
“We must not lose our faculty to dare, especially in dark days.” - Churchill in March, 1942.
Remember NY-23; translation: RINOs Have No Base.
Barry recieved his orders....frame everything as..."what I inherited from the last eight years"
Beasley Beesmeal Monday, February 9th at 9:24PM EST (link)they smell failure….Blame Bush!