“if you’re wondering what’s the problem with…[snip]..trying to explain matters to a woman who can degrade the sacrament of the Eucharist down to “Communion is the body of the people of the church coming together”

Catholics believe in the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist (Communion) - body blood soul and divinity. Its not about the “body of the people of the church coming together.” You might get all mystical and make that analogy, as an additional benefit of Communion, but Pelosi was not getting all mystical, she was denying the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

Trust me, the church put out generic statements EVERYWHERE last year that warned against voting for politicians that support abortion, but it didn’t add up to a majority of Catholics supporting pro-life candidates.

According to the Catholic League, that campaign was very effective for church-going Catholics. It was the self-identifying non-church-going “catholics” who are rolled together in all published statistics with the faithful Catholics by the MSM that make it look like the RCC in America is on the hairy edge of collapsing. It’s frustrating as even the conservative pundits fall for the canard that the majority of all catholics support abortion rights.

“It’s a fair cop”

n/t

I started with one idea, then totally changed the body without changing the title… ah well.

to that.

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On Meet the Press, 24 August 2008, Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, was asked about her divergence from the Catholic Church on the issue of when life begins. She responded that “as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And Senator—St. Augustine said at three months. We don’t know. The point is, is that it shouldn’t have an impact on the woman’s right to choose.”
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If she is excommunicated that would be GREAT.

Pope Benedict is Brilliant. Nancy Pelosi is in dangerous territory.

Of course, if you’re not in communion with the religious community to which you connect yourself on the matters that community considers non-negotiable, then you ought not act as though you are in communion in the outward practices and ceremonies.

In the Catholic Church, the doctrinal communion and sacramental communion are both instances of adhering to the Person of Jesus Christ since Christ is at once the very substance of the Truths the Church teaches and the very substance of Communion. And neither of these in a figurative, merely spiritual, or any other way that reduces dissension on non-negotiables to anything but a violence to Christ Himself.

*scandal, in Christianity, is a technical term. From the Catechism:

2284 Scandal is an attitude or behavior which leads another to do evil. The person who gives scandal becomes his neighbor’s tempter. He damages virtue and integrity; he may even draw his brother into spiritual death. Scandal is a grave offense if by deed or omission another is deliberately led into a grave offense.

2285 Scandal takes on a particular gravity by reason of the authority of those who cause it or the weakness of those who are scandalized. It prompted our Lord to utter this curse: “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened round his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.”85 Scandal is grave when given by those who by nature or office are obliged to teach and educate others. Jesus reproaches the scribes and Pharisees on this account: he likens them to wolves in sheep’s clothing.86

2286 Scandal can be provoked by laws or institutions, by fashion or opinion.

Therefore, they are guilty of scandal who establish laws or social structures leading to the decline of morals and the corruption of religious practice, or to “social conditions that, intentionally or not, make Christian conduct and obedience to the Commandments difficult and practically impossible.” This is also true of business leaders who make rules encouraging fraud, teachers who provoke their children to anger, or manipulators of public opinion who turn it away from moral values.

2287 Anyone who uses the power at his disposal in such a way that it leads others to do wrong becomes guilty of scandal and responsible for the evil that he has directly or indirectly encouraged. “Temptations to sin are sure to come; but woe to him by whom they come!”