O’donnell is another tool of the left who ignores the fact that all who read those memos are as complicit as she maintains Cheney is. Her ididotic statement as perused by her own reality, not fact, but feelings was that this info could have been attained another way and lives would still have been saved.

Woulda, coulda, shoulda, Norah. You’ll never know and it’s beating a dead horse.
It’s done, it’s over and Liz Cheney smacked you down. Go read what Porter Goss had to say at WaPo, I think.

In a clear indication that Norah has detached herself from reality, she claims that we cannot waterboard captives because we would not want these techniques used on our own soldiers if they were captured. If only we could ask our beheaded and mutilated soldiers if they would have preferred being waterboarded as opposed to being executed - alas we will never know.

Bottom line, the techniques we used on these captives were the same techniques that we historically and currently use on our own soldiers during survival training. The point Cheney was making, and O’Donnell missed, was how can we not define these techniques as torture when they are used on our own, but consider them torturous when used on someone else?

My favorite part of the exchange is where O’Donnell actually believes she has caught Cheney in a misstep by defending the fact that we had lawyers determine to what extent we could pressure the detainees before it constituted torture. But according to O’Donnell herself, she contends we violated the Geneva Convention, so I guess the interpretation of law should be left up to television anchors, and not lawyers. Next time our government tries to determine what actions fall within the confines of a law perhaps we should not seek the advice of those who are paid to advise, but instead give MSNBC a ring.

The viciousness of what passes for journalists these days is appalling.

It makes me smile too!

And I would agree with you that most Press Sec types might not fall into the category I described above, with one exception–I give you

ROBERT GIBBS

It so cheers me up when I see it!!

Just the most mimimal preparation for dealing with improperly formed questions should be enough for people who should be accomplished public speakers. Most administrative and trial advocates can coach lay witnesses well enough in a few minutes that they don’t usually get tripped up by the opposition, so a day or two of training for high powered politicians and press people should be adequate.

“So resolved that the above-mentioned William … should be dragged from the Palace of Westminster to the Tower of London and from the Tower of London and thus through the middle of the city to the Elms (Smithfield) and as a punishment for the robberies, murders, and felonies which he had committed should there be hung and afterwards disembowelled.

“And because he had been outlawed and had not been afterwards restored to.) the King’s peace he should be beheaded.

“And afterwards as a punishment for the great wickedness which he had practised towards God and His holy church by burning churches, vessels and reliquaries, his heart, liver, lungs, and all internal organs should be thrown into the fire and burned …”

The execution of Wallace stands forth among the violent ends which have a place in history; and those bloody trophies, the head, arms and legs which were set up to frighten a broken people into submission, only served to deepen their wrath and renew their courage.