Whether or not you agree with my politics, don’t worry: you’re probably in here somewhere. It’s a report from last month called the “Domestic Extremism Lexicon,” and it’s quite comprehensive. Did you know that anti-abortion protesters and animal rights activists are domestic extremists? Yes, the same sloppy language as last time. So bad, in fact, that they tried to bury it…
Hot Air and The Daily Beast are both covering this one, and I agree with both that the categories are disturbingly broad, and cross-spectrum. The phrase “[members of group X] have been known to advocate or engage in criminal activity and plot acts of violence and terrorism to advance their extremist goals” appears far too often for comfort. The reason that this is discomforting is that it strongly implies that DHS isn’t distinguishing between (for example) animal rights activists who don’t intend to break the law to further their agenda and animal rights activists who do. Why, in fact, does DHS even care about animal rights activists who aren’t breaking the law? Or anti-abortion activists? Anti-technologists? Green anarchists? Heck, they even know that there’s several different flavors of skinheads, and they lump them all together in one big ball anyway. What gives?
Well, what gives is that we’re talking about DHS, which was created in haste: we are apparently starting to hit the ‘repent in leisure’ point. The real problem is not any one particular memo, of course. The problem is the mindset that created those memos, and I’ve yet to see any indication that people are working on fixing that mindset. This should alarm you, no matter where you stand on which status quo to disrupt: apparently just wanting to change it at all is enough to worry Homeland Security in the Obama era…
Moe Lane
Unlike Ed Morrissey I am not automatically upset at the rather gaping lack of any discussion of Islamist (or Muslim) extremists in the lexicon: I’ve read the introduction, and it suggests that there’s a separate report out there that specifically handles that particular issue. This would be logical, given that the threat from Islamist extremists to this country is greater than that of every domestic extremist group combined… but the longer it is before that report gets leaked, the worse PR it’s going to be for this administration.
Crossposted to Moe Lane.
Steve Maley
Neil Stevens
Daniel Horowitz
Seem to have left out the most extreme and terrifying group,
Tbone (Diary) Friday, May 1st at 3:05PM EST (link)politicians.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Should I turn myself in?
Steph C (Diary) Friday, May 1st at 3:18PM EST (link)I didn’t get through the first page and I was all over it. I was afraid to look any further.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics
I made the list too.
jackbenimble (Diary) Friday, May 1st at 6:02PM EST (link)And I have to think that while some of those categories looked pretty unsavory, a lot of the people characterized as extremists I would not mind having as neighbors. In fact, most of my neighbors probably ARE extremists as defined by this document.
“I repudiate the idea of voting for a Democrat
Terrorist connections
Dencal26 Friday, May 1st at 3:50PM EST (link)DHS should concentrate its focus on people who befriend and have had close associations and friendships with domestic terrorists who have actually placed many bombs in the USA with the intent to kill and maim. Someone like Bill Ayers for example and his pal Obama.
This was the topic of conversation at the gun shop
Old_Crow (Diary) Friday, May 1st at 3:52PM EST (link)this afternoon (yes we have them in NY). The general tone of the conversation how clueless, out-of-touch, and intentionally discriminatory against many of the folks that defend out country. At the counter were:
2 policeman (1 NYC, and 1 County)
1 FBI agent
2 retired Marines
1 ANG officer
and me, retired military, current overseas miitary contractor.
Who are the fools who write such nonsense?
Have they ever worked in the defense or security business?
Sounds like it was written by a 20 year old ivy league kid’s term paper (agenda sans facts, hence D-).
“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison
sorry for the typos..
Old_Crow (Diary) Friday, May 1st at 3:56PM EST (link)“Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm.” — James Madison
Old_Crow
Steph C (Diary) Friday, May 1st at 4:15PM EST (link)I know we spend a lot of time making fun of this but there’s an ugliness to it, too.
This report is just the opening salvo the demogoguery war that’s being initiated. If this is allowed to stand in the government, it won’t be long before we’re being pointed at and out and hauled off like criminals for simply holding views that are the opposite of TheOne and his party. We’ve watched it happen over and over in every tin pot dictatorship around the world and some not so tin pot and we think it can’t happen here… just like the Jews in Germany didn’t take it seriously until it actually started affecting their lives.
“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics
I remember
Warrior (Diary) Friday, May 1st at 5:35PM EST (link)arguing with some clown on Amazon who was declaiming how ridiculous was Jonas Goldberg’s assertion (in “Liberal Fascism”) that white, conservative Christians were the new Jews. How ridiculous he hollered. How incredulous. How unlikely.
I cited a couple of examples from my own experience of how I had been singled out for opprbrium b/c I was a conservative. Paranoid, he claimed, there must be another reason. It will never happen here, he exclaimed
I guess Mr. Goldberg wasn’t far off the mark.
“Racial criteria are irrational, irrelevant, [and] odious to our way of life.” — Thurgood Marshall for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund in the 1950 Supreme Court case of McLaurin v. Oklahoma
I remember
Warrior (Diary) Friday, May 1st at 5:35PM EST (link)arguing with some clown on Amazon who was declaiming how ridiculous was Jonas Goldberg’s assertion (in “Liberal Fascism”) that white, conservative Christians were the new Jews. How ridiculous he hollered. How incredulous. How unlikely.
I cited a couple of examples from my own experience of how I had been singled out for opprbrium b/c I was a conservative. Paranoid, he claimed, there must be another reason. It will never happen here, he exclaimed
I guess Mr. Goldberg wasn’t far off the mark.
“Racial criteria are irrational, irrelevant, [and] odious to our way of life.” — Thurgood Marshall for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund in the 1950 Supreme Court case of McLaurin v. Oklahoma
Sorry,
gonzo55 (Diary) Friday, May 1st at 9:34PM EST (link)but it’s long since started affecting peoples lives here ($1.7T deficit, abortion and gay marriage on demand), and still they line up for more from The One. The Jews were way ahead of us.
“Facts are stubborn things” — Ronald Wilson Reagan
Onion-Style Pardoy of DHS Report
melvinwinter Friday, May 1st at 4:30PM EST (link)You all might enjoy this Onion-style parody of the first DHS report (which includes some jabs at Janeane Garofalo as well). Check it out if you have a few seconds:
http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/04/department-of-homeland-security.html