Lindsey Graham wounded by Sotomayor’s hurtful remarks.


Senator Lindsey Graham goes there:

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., told “FOX News Sunday” he wasn’t buying President Obama’s attempt to walk back his Supreme Court nominee’s controversial statement from 2001. Obama said Friday that given the chance Sotomayor would have “restated” that comment, and that she was merely trying to express how her experiences give her perspective on others’ hardships.

“She didn’t say that at all,” Graham countered Sunday, suggesting Sotomayor’s statement raises questions about her objectivity.

“What she said is that based on her life experiences is that she thought a Latina woman, somebody with her background, would be a better judge than a guy like me — a white guy from South Carolina,” Graham said. “It is troubling, and it’s inappropriate and I hope she’ll apologize.”


Via AoSHQ.  I say ‘goes there’ in two senses.  First off, Senator Graham is of course using identity politics - in precisely the way that Sotomayor did in the first place, which makes it a little awkward for the Democrats to explain why it’s OK for a Latina to declare herself better than a white guy, but not OK for a white guy to be offended by that statement and call for an apology.  Note the use of the word ‘inappropriate,’ too, which is usually used by the professional political correctness squad to great effect as a passive-aggressive way of getting a concession; I can’t wait to see if the Democrats can come up with a rationalization not to that’s any better than Because it’s different when we do it.  And, given that Graham is explicitly not calling Sotomayor a racist, there’s no earthly reason at all that she shouldn’t personally apologize for offending him, right?

The second way that I mean ‘goes there’ is in ‘going to the caucus.’ Yes, yes, I know: he’s been unreliable before, and he very well be unreliable in the future. But right now he’s eating his Wheaties, and we should encourage that, yes? Carrot and stick, ladies and gentlemen: carrot and stick.

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Lindsey Graham Goes There - Jeff Sessions Does Not

Swamp_Yankee Sunday, May 31st at 2:11PM EDT (link)

Jeff Sessions joins Coryn in denouncing Rush and Newt. This is interesting. The usual sides are not aligned.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/us_sessions_sotomayor/2009/05/31/219856.html?utm_medium=RSS

I notice there was no direct quote,

Flagstaff Sunday, May 31st at 6:17PM EDT (link)

so what did he in fact say?

Republicans all need a lesson in how to declare their independence without attacking their colleagues and supporters. I doubt that either Sessions or Cornyn had read the exact words of Rush or Newt. I may be wrong, but I don’t think either civilian unequivocally called her a racist.

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Mitt Romney just did the same thing on Fox News Sunday. nt

Flagstaff Sunday, May 31st at 6:19PM EDT (link)

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Same as which, Flagstaff?

itrytobenice Sunday, May 31st at 10:27PM EDT (link)

Did Romney ask for an apology or condemn Newt and Rush?

The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

Neither one.

Flagstaff Tuesday, June 2nd at 12:56AM EDT (link)

He accepted the flat statement that “they called her a racist” without protest, then said he disagreed with them. In all, he handled it pretty well.

But I changed my mind in the meantime. I think they did come close enough to calling her a racist that it would be pointless to quibble about it.

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I should have added

Flagstaff Tuesday, June 2nd at 12:58AM EDT (link)

this.

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a challenge/experiment, if people will take me up on it

JLenardDetroit Tuesday, June 2nd at 1:28AM EDT (link)

First, obviously another case of typing something at the same time and you beat me to the enter button while I was still typing my long reply (below) during your Kowalski entry…. anyway…..

Thanks for the Transcript link…

The challenge/experiment, to again make a point…

Pretend for a moment you are an Ultra-Liberal Newspaper reporter/editor or CNN/MSNBC segment producer (whatever) and review that Transcript! With me so far? No, imagine, of course, your GOAL is NOT TO REPORT what was said/meant by Romney (or any Republican/Conservative from /in ANY discussion - think perhaps editing a Palin/Couric interview for airing [that give you the hint?!?!]) and see what words you will/would PICK OUT to make the STORY/SPIN about Republican in-fighting, or semi-positive spin for SoSo, etc….

I think that may finally drive home the thought/point I think some of us miss OR JUST AT TIMES FORGET (again, I AM GUILTY of it at times) and then allow ourselves to be suckered into these arguments!!!!

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not sure whether you heard the whole thing or not, but...

JLenardDetroit Tuesday, June 2nd at 1:05AM EDT (link)

I applaud

Now… Speaking only for myself, to make a point…. I’ll first make an admission…. I sometimes hear/see only the MSM spun snippet out of context of what someone “supposedly” meant (they want us to thing: “SAID IN TOTAL”) that I forget it is NOT always (in fact, often NOT) the case…. They PLAY US!!!! And “I” sometimes fall for it and go on with the Republican/Conservative in-fighting….. Hope others will recognize/realize, admit it, and hope that ‘WE ALL” can/will do better to remind ourselves of it in the future before we jump on our fellow Conservatives/Republicans….

As I’d admitted elsewhere… I have to give NEWT a break.. I fell for the twist and know that NEWT is criticizing the ObamAgenda - So, What does Obama NOT want you paying attention to? even though he isn’t going as far as the: How Obama’s FAILURES are the country’s SUCCESSES - since we have to spell it out as “I” do and would prefer him to.

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SW, Sessions did not denounce Newt and Rush - in fact

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 6:19PM EDT (link)

he refused to contradict their conclusion. He simply refused to go that far, and given his position I don’t blame him. He did fine.

He is no Cornyn. I heard his tape as well.

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Thanks for the quick update, GC.

Flagstaff Sunday, May 31st at 6:29PM EDT (link)

I’m going to find both statements by Rush and Newt for reference.

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FLAGSTAFF - HERE ARE BOTH - I am the biggest defender of Rush here, and am very sensitive to criticism of him

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 6:40PM EDT (link)

But I think people that want to use the word “racism” to describe her and those that don’t, but who denounce what she said utterly, are both justified.

I’m going to do a column on it I guess. I am satisfied with Sessions and even Graham is great on what he said about Soto’ even if I don’t agree with his rather mild criticism of Rush.

Sessions on MTP transcript:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31015497/

Cornyn was out of line, esp when speaking of a man that raised money for his re-election:

from Rush
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_052909/content/01125106.member.html

“A person from… I’m probably going to embarrass him by saying this, but I was asked by friends to do a fundraiser for Senator Cornyn when he was running, and I did. I flew to Texas and did it. Yesterday on NPR, John Cornyn was asked this question: “We’ve heard Rush Limbaugh, we’ve heard the former House speaker Newt Gingrich calling Sonia Sotomayor a racist, saying that she should withdraw.” I didn’t say that, Newt did, but that’s the question. “What do you make of the rhetoric that’s tumbling out of these people these days, Senator Cornyn?”

CORNYN: I think it’s terrible. This is not the kind of tone that any of us want to set when it comes to performing our constitutional responsibilities of advice and consent. Neither one of these, uh, men (chuckles) are elected Republican officials. I just don’t think it’s appropriate. I certainly don’t endorse it. I — I think it’s wrong.

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this is exactly the distortion that MSM is looking to put forth

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 6:58PM EDT (link)

as I said elsewhere… The MSM are again taking a comment and twisting it out of proportion and context to make the story REPUBLICAN INFIGHTING again rather than that we are TOGETHER in her opposition but just not the “words” we’re willing to use in the discussion…. Senators often try to keep that “Senatorial courtesy” speak/tone and they get burned by people twisting their intent!

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ahh yes, "The Gentle-lady from Nantucket"

David Hinz Sunday, May 31st at 7:05PM EDT (link)

type of Washington-speak in referring to a Congresscritter that EVERYONE knows is nothing more than a dirty limerick…

…but Congress must maintain decorum or else it would look no better than this…

The Democratic Progressive Party…

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^5 good addition David

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 7:21PM EDT (link)

I love that and other video’s - didn’t someone goes nuts in England one time too? …. Anyway they (U.S. Senators) of course can get a little “harsher” though when they are NOT in the Senate chambers…. The whole thing goes too far the other way… People forget the same is true of those on the Campaign Trail, they are NOT going to go as far as the rest of us unconstrained to having to actually have someone vote!

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Heh. I'd love to see Sen. Leahy tap-dancing

Flagstaff Sunday, May 31st at 7:26PM EDT (link)

around in a mob on a table top.

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Don't worry 'DETROIT, Soto's statement and Ricci are so gross that this is a story

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 7:07PM EDT (link)

that hurts Obama and Soto’ every time her statement is repeated in any context.

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now maybe Newt can also stop backing away from the ObamaFAIL message?!?!

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 7:14PM EDT (link)

If he is finally willing to get a little “harsher” in tone/words with the RADICAL-IN-CHIEF’S picking a like RADICAL-JUSTICE…. just sayin’

I have been “upset” with Newt “moderating” tone against Obama… I can “understand” current Elected Officials wanting to watch their tone and needing to appear to be “OPEN” because they have to have the hearings, but Newt is not Elected (he’s on a Book tour and he’d frankly sell more books with the ObamaFAIL message - even though the book is completely unrelated).

But, again, all of this is part of the point that the MSM wants us to be AT EACH OTHER rather than the Democrats… It needs to STOP!

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timing is everything (and reply thread to lol)

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 7:55PM EDT (link)

I read right past the “Sessions” portion of Swamps 14:11 comment… further down thread 18:09 said it would get distorted (or maybe did have Swamps comment in the back of my mind that I didn’t think I saw) by the MSM as an Anti-Rush thing… and then bam, at 18:17 we were pulled back into…. WE ALL KNOW the MSM is going to play this to DISTRACT!

Let us hope it gets REMEMBERED across all threads!!!! We have to cut them some slack and breaks when they are just being “careful” choosing terms on one News channel only to still have them SPUN/twisted on every other Channel. It is US versus DEMOCRATS!!!!

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Distance from name-calling but not the issue

Freedoms Truth Sunday, May 31st at 6:54PM EDT (link)

I think Senator John Cornyn, formerly of the Texas Supreme Court, should join Senator Graham in taking Sotomayor’s comments personally. She is saying that white judges cant jump, judicially speaking. She said basically that men like Cornyn couldnt be trusted to be as fair on the bench as she could because they lack the all-important latina life experience.

And further, she thinks its a virtue not a vice to include such considerations that go beyond the law.

 

Sessions on "MEET THE dePRESSed"

JLenardDetroit Monday, June 1st at 2:20AM EDT (link)

Sessions on “MEET THE dePRESSed”

Let’s stay mad but focused on the right targets for venting that frustration…..

I saw the whole interview… I saw David Gregory after having set up the interview with a frame of SoSo’s Racist comments they are working on dismissing….. Gregory kept pressing to insure he comes away with, and all the other MSM outlets will pick up on, a snippet that they can take out of context to fit that Republican infighting narrative….. He clearly and specifically (within the U.S. Senate “let’s be overly courteous” tone BS they dance around) that there are things to be “concerned” about including that one continually repeated RACIST comment - but what you will get is some BS like “Sessions says he would not use those words” when being badgered by David Gregory about “well Rush said” … “but then so and so said … Bigot” and you get that money quote to be taken out of context “I would not use those words” …. DO NOT LET THEM PLAY YOU/US…. The Republican Leadership IS criticising, to the extent they can before official hearings, let us give them a break and some time…..

In the mean-time… let US continue to harp on all the points they can eventually acknowledge unconstrained by the niceties of the Senate rules…..

SoSo is a Racist, Sexist, Class-ist (as well as Class-less and Clueless), and is as Radical as the Radical-In-Chief in the WH and that is exactly why she has been picked BEHIND THE HISPANIC SMOKE SCREEN DIVERSION…. All of this is open/fair game and we can/should keep harping on it - not about how our Leaders haven’t said these things “exactly” like we’d like them to. And let us keep flooding their offices with calls that they MUST return the Filibuster favor and use it!!!!!!!!!!

We need to be MAD AS HELL and not gonna take it anymore… but it has to be at the MSM for trying to DUPE US INTO A DISTRACTION NARRATIVE!!!!! Mad as Hell enough to keep calling our Representatives and DEMAND they Challenge by any and all means necessary or they will NOT get re-election support!!!

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This *is* interesting

Neil Stevens Sunday, May 31st at 2:12PM EDT (link)

I wonder if he’s seeing the light on La Raza as well.

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I heard yesterday that Sotomayor is a member of La Raza

Jack_Savage Sunday, May 31st at 3:47PM EDT (link)

I am trying to check on that in the midst of painting the bathroom…

You're in the right place for that. nt

Flagstaff Sunday, May 31st at 6:18PM EDT (link)

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Drudge cites the ABA as the source of Soto's La Raza membership info

olsmithie Sunday, May 31st at 6:32PM EDT (link)

She has also spoken before and been published in the La Raza Law journal at Berkley, UC.

Now since we are discussing Sotomayor, can we get a courtesy flush?!

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She bowls?

David Hinz Sunday, May 31st at 7:07PM EDT (link)

does she bowl like a ....

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 7:25PM EDT (link)

well… an Obama? ROTFLMAO

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According to the SC , she throws mostly gutter balls...

olsmithie Sunday, May 31st at 8:23PM EDT (link)

As in American Bar Association, of course, but
I prefer to watch bowlers on the PBA tour!

Regards

 
 
 
 
 

Disingenuous

lukematthews Sunday, May 31st at 3:05PM EDT (link)

Sotomayor said exactly what she thinks. That is all. She didn’t misspeak or use the wrong words, she believes ‘minorities’ are more entitled and more able to judge than white males. I have been hearing the same bigotry for the last two years of grad school. This is what they believe, plain and simple. A ‘minority’ by virtue of their ‘oppression’ are more likely to arrive at a more ‘equitable’ decision based on their racial and gender experiences. They are nothing more than bigots, but claim they have the high moral ground.

 

Love to Hear Our Side Throwing Around the "Bigot" Label

Josh LeGuern Sunday, May 31st at 3:50PM EDT (link)

I would have loved to have heard Sotomayor’s unadulterated explanation of this comment. This is impossible now, unfortunately because of people like Lindsey Graham making ridiculous comments like this!

It does give cause for concern either because she really does believe it and holds a level of a resentment against whites and men that makes her unable to give a fair assessment of people or she just has a habit of choosing her words very poorly, which is also a problem, considering she is going to have to offer written opinions on decisions the Supreme Court.

I’m actually very disappointed in Rush, whom I love otherwise. Calling someone a “bigot” is always the easy way out of an honest and open argument. There are some people who are deserving of the label, like Fred Phelps or David Duke or (based on his comments about Jews) Jesse Jackson, but we should always give people the benefit of the doubt and allow them to explain themselves before we begin assigning them labels like this. I know the left doesn’t do this, I’ve been at the tail end of it with the whole gay marriage debate, but we are NOT the left and I’m sorry but I am not willing to start latching onto the tactics of Carville, Begala, Emmanuel and Axelrod. These tactics have only caused more division.

What is the Philosophy of Sotomayor in your opinion is not racist?

antisocial Sunday, May 31st at 4:27PM EDT (link)

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racist
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

In the PC world racism if done by whites is Racism. If done by blacks/hispanics etc it is not. Barack Obama used the race card against every argument that he was confronted with.

I think Rush and Newt are right in calling her a racist. If her comments are not racist how would you classify them? If her comments are racist won’t that make her a racist?

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Double standard

mustango Sunday, May 31st at 5:11PM EDT (link)

Do our guys get a shot at an “unadulterated explanation”? Ever?

Do we see Democrats fret about having been unfair to Robert Bork/Clarence Thomas/John Bolton? Ever?

Do we convince anybody that we’re more empathic and compassionate and less divisive than the other party by taking the “high road”? Ever?

The thing is, this isn’t really about her. One way or another she’s going to the high court. This is about the most blatant example of the political double standard in this country yet. If we’re not going to at least try to make a stand here, then when?

 

8 years

Pomme Sunday, May 31st at 5:22PM EDT (link)

She’s had 8 years to “explain herself.” Is that long enough for the benefit of the doubt??

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views” William F Buckley Jr.

love that Pomme - nt

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we don't RACE-bait, we only say it when it's true

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 5:41PM EDT (link)

The woman’s comments (not just the one) and her actions on the bench provide the complete context past any one SINGLE spin/dismissal of any one comment….. There is a specific record and a pattern is derived from that pattern… The woman is a RACIST, Sexist, Liberal-hack-Activist and each and every piece of that is valid objection.

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Everyone has missed that fact that her comment was also sexist.

Flagstaff Sunday, May 31st at 6:27PM EDT (link)

What part of “Latina woman better than white man” is NOT sexist?

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Most Latina Women won't decide any better

kowalski Sunday, May 31st at 6:32PM EDT (link)

It’s a stupid comment. I’m sure she knows that her ability to comment is informed first and foremost by her knowledge of the law, which she apprehends thanks to the facutly of Harvard and Yale.

 

yep, I don't shy from it

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 7:04PM EDT (link)

and said only slightly before you’re bringing it up (right above you)

The woman is a RACIST, Sexist, Liberal-hack-Activist and each and every piece of that is valid objection.

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Yes, you did.

Flagstaff Sunday, May 31st at 7:14PM EDT (link)

I missed your comment.

That makes you the first person I’ve seen to take up that issue.

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oops, I missed "Class-ist" - that "Empathy" code-word to/for Liberals

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 7:39PM EDT (link)

So let me say it out-right and plain: SoSo is a Racist, Sexist, Class-war-faring, Radical-Liberal-Activist, that has NO business having not been removed (based on HER RECORD and times over-turned) let alone be being promoted to the High-Court that is most likely to rule on the current case she has her fingerprints on and FAILED to get correct! Yet some think she’s to be allowed on the Court. What if the court doesn’t bother to “hear” that this session?!?!?

This Woman makes Justice __pick_any_Liberal_SCOTUS___ look like … well … you get the idea….

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My latest diary addresses the sexist aspect as well - LINK - if only Miguel Estrada had been Margarita!

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 7:21PM EDT (link)

^5 Margarita - lol (nt)

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for more go here

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and feel free to recco if deserved

http://www.redstate.com/gamecock/2009/05/31/rewinding-the-start-of-obama-sotomayor-justice/

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It wouldn't have mattered

itrytobenice Sunday, May 31st at 10:37PM EDT (link)

Except it might have made it worse.

Remember Janice Rogers Brown? The Ds told him in advance, “Don’t bother.”

The problem with America is stupidity. I’m not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don’t we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

what wouldn't have mattered?

Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, June 1st at 11:17AM EDT (link)

We did get JRB on the circuit court

just not sure what you mean by your cryptic comment

see also

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Rush's racist conclusion is backed up by him with a week's worth of excruciatingly detailed

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 7:23PM EDT (link)

reasoned arguments that covers the whole issue going back to Bork and coming forward.

Go to Rush Limbaugh dot com

read and then come back

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I supppose it all stems from the fact....

Josh LeGuern Monday, June 1st at 1:24AM EDT (link)

….I’m really not at all hurt by her comments. They are what they are, and if that really is what she believes she should not be a Supreme Court Justice.

But I’m hesitant to throw the bigot label around. It’s a weak way to further an argument whether it comes from the left or the right.

Well, I too am reluctant to label anyone anything, but not sure by what you mean by "hurt"

Mike gamecock DeVine Monday, June 1st at 11:21AM EDT (link)

unless you are a liberal. I don’t many conservatives that actually let the words of others “hurt” them in this context.

I think those that conclude she is a racist from this comment and the Ricci case are justified. I guess I would phrase it that the burden of proof is on her to refute it..

Certainly her words nearly are verbatim the classic superiority definition of racist and certainly by the left’s definitions against Trent Lott, et al, she is a racist.

The best thing that advances the argument in this matter is that whenever ordinary Americans hear the quote, Soto loses ground, given the gross nature of the words.

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Choosing Words

lukematthews Sunday, May 31st at 4:24PM EDT (link)

I was not using the word lightly or frivolously. I was using the word in its purest and most accepted way.

Bigot - a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices ; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Sotomayor’s comment was in direct defiance to Justice O’Connor’s remark that a ‘wise old male and a wise old female judge will come to the same conclusion with the same reasoning.’ She absolutely rejects the idea that men and women think in the same way, which has been indicated by studies. She believes in Carol Gilligan’s ‘ethics of care’ which argues women come from a different philosophical and relational viewpoint from men. Sotomayor ‘obstinately’ in the face of the evidence, that women are more ‘care’ oriented and will therefore come up with a more ‘empathetic’ solution that is ‘fairer’.

She also regards ‘white males’ as ‘oppressors’ and therefore unfit for judging people. Indicating ‘white males’ as oppressors is certainly at least intolerant and surely indicates some animus toward that group as a whole. Otherwise, her statement would just be irrational. The narrative being presented in colleges is the ‘oppressing white male paradigm’ is on its face unfair and so only ‘minorities’ can judge what is truly fair or not. Her viewpoint may be popular among academia, but that doesn’t make it any less extreme.

I understand the belief that calling people names is counterproductive. However, when someone like Sotomayor holds such extreme prejudices as righteous, she falls into that particular category of person. It isn’t right or accurate not to label her as exactly that, a bigot, when her attitude and mindset mirrors that definition so completely. We shouldn’t have a bigot on the High Court. That is why it needs to be said.

 

She Didn't Really Say Either

redstatebluestate123 Sunday, May 31st at 4:48PM EDT (link)

“she was merely trying to express how her experiences give her perspective on others’ hardships.”

Well, no. She went out of her way to compare Latinas to Whites.

“What she said is that based on her life experiences is that she thought a Latina woman, somebody with her background, would be a better judge than a guy like me — a white guy from South Carolina.”

Also no, she said that she thought that somebody from her background would be better than a white guy without her background.

So, really, she falls somewhere in the middle of what Obama says she said and what Graham says she said. Which, given the contemporary state of American politics, is not all that surprising.

So I guess the real problem with her statement is the assumption that whites do not experience bigotry or hardship. I know many minorities who believe this, especially those who grew up in heavily-minority areas. That’s one of the social ills in America that we need to work on correcting.

empathy on its own isn't bad....

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I want all humans to have empathy and sympathy where-ever possible… it is a whole different matter if it translates to twisting the Constitution from EQUAL JUSTICE to redistributive Justice as SHE has record of in word/deed.

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exactly - the legislative and executive branches properly take empathy

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 6:18PM EDT (link)

into account in making and executing policy. Of course it is proper in private life. But not on the court, except in sentencing within discretionary guidelines, and even then the position of the victims matter just as much.

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exactly, she shows NO empathy for victims of Crimes

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 6:36PM EDT (link)

just those of perceived (LIBERAL usually defined) victim-hood.

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One point I tried to make in my first of, now 4, columns on Soto, was on empathy

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 6:51PM EDT (link)

and that while one could see very limited avenues for its use as a trial judge, I find no place for it as an appellate judge. Really, hardly any at all. They review the trial record for legal errors or constitutional interpretation. You might find a place for it in interpreting intentionally vague phrases like “reasonable” searches or “cruel” and unusual punishment, but not much even there and not many other places that come to mind.

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These are two equivalent statements.

Flagstaff Sunday, May 31st at 6:53PM EDT (link)

“What she said is that based on her life experiences is that she thought a Latina woman, somebody with her background, would be a better judge than a guy like me — a white guy from South Carolina.”

Also no, she said that she thought that somebody from her background would be better than a white guy without her background.

Your misquote is farther from what she actually said than is Graham’s.

The fact is, her statement was either not very smart, as in ‘indefensible’ but ‘not what she meant,’ or it was both sexist and racist, claiming that an unnamed woman is inherently better than a man, and an undefined Latina is better than a white.

So I guess the real problem with her statement is the assumption that whites do not experience bigotry or hardship.

No, the real problem is that it reveals a lack of depth in her thought processes, which is a terrible characteristic in a judge. Based on her statement, most of the decisions reached by white men have been and are wrong, because she clearly believes her opinions would be better and therefore necessarily different. If she can’t follow that logical construct before she utters it in a speech, how can she unwind a complex legal case?

It seems to me that Sonia Sotomayor’s guiding principle might be “Peter.” Based on her most recent decision which is in the process of being overturned (undone by ‘empathy’), she’s already reached her level of incompetence. Too bad she’s headed even higher.

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amen Flag' - in fact, Soto's statement is the CLASSIC definition of racism, i.e.

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 7:03PM EDT (link)

superiority claims. I have often argued here that actions are most important, and still do whether we speak of people that believe in racial superiority or use the n-word, as I have known people that were believed same and who used such language in non-mixed company but that would hire and be friends with people of the race they think less of or use epithets at times to describe.

And I have known others that never speak ill of other races, nor use epithets nor speak of any inferiority and even vociferously speak of equality but who never seem to have black friends, hire blacks and who seem uncomfortable around them.

Soto’ seems to combine the old style original racism idea with an obsession for The Race in her voluminous associations and clubs and in her statements and acts on the bench.

I can’t fault Rush and Newt but also think it best for Sessions not to get into that semantic argument. He went out of his way not to denounce Rush and Newt.

I must honestly say that would probably have phrased my conclusion on Soto’ thusly if I were Rush or sessions by saying that the statement and ruling were obviously racist and that the burden is on her to disprove that she is.

But I think all responses by sessions and rush and newt are fine.

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Graham Cracker eh I mean Grahamnesty

edward_cropper Sunday, May 31st at 5:05PM EDT (link)

Our little flower from South Carolina is offended but will accept an apology, and we all know the apology will be very sincere and meaningful

Edward Cropper

Now now

Neil Stevens Sunday, May 31st at 5:06PM EDT (link)

Don’t pre-judge his actions here. Give him a chance to do the right thing before you start making name-calling attacks.

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I'm glad Moe got a handle on this first...

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 5:47PM EDT (link)

I saw the interview myself… through it I was automatically parsing segments that I KNOW the regular MSM will pick apart and put out of context to make him and all Republicans look bad… I have NO doubt that someone else would eventually hear an soundbite out of context from Graham on CNN, NBC, etc…. and create another “Graham is a *****” (**** = pick your own negative inference) piece.

Graham has things that he deserves a slap upside the head from us on… but THIS is not one of them!

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K'ski: CNN/pMSNBC will turn the Graham thing into anti-Rush thing

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 6:06PM EDT (link)

CNN and MSNBC will take the section of the interview where Wallace mentions Rush calling her Racist and Graham’s wanting to just “imply” she might be but has “for certain” made remarks to the effect…. blah… blah… blah…..

Graham’s desire to maintain that “Senatorial courtesy” into REPUBLICAN INFIGHTING narrative. Be weary and aware and we MUST NOT allow ourselves to continue to be suckered into it…. It is NOT what Graham said (he did NOT “attack” Rush over comments) but it will be twisted by the Liberal MSM to be that.

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Agreed Moe - Lindsey did a great job, as did Sessions. And

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 6:20PM EDT (link)

so did Rush and Newt.

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night and day.... watch how all this will be sliced and diced into something else tomorrow...

JLenardDetroit Monday, June 1st at 2:56AM EDT (link)

Sessions on “MEET THE dePRESSed”

Let’s stay mad but focused on the right targets for venting that frustration…..

I saw the whole interview… I saw David Gregory after having set up the interview with a frame of SoSo’s Racist comments they are working on dismissing….. Now, I have been through Journalism and TV Production (in front of camera, behind the camera, working sound boards, most importantly THE EDITTING ROOM! - I could chop that interview up to be whatever direction I want the audience to feel)…. I’ve been on Campaign and in these things, thought I did okay, only to find they caught me with leading me to say just one sentence - and that becomes the distortion!!! That is what has to be remembered as we go on with this discussion. Raw/Live interviews are on thing, then those get chopped up and the “sound-bites” sent off to CNN, MSNBC, NBC, the newspapers get transcripts…. and they pick and choose the least words that they can twist into the biggest LIE….

David Gregory kept pressing to insure he comes away with, and all the other MSM outlets will pick up on, a snippet that they can take out of context to fit that Republican infighting narrative….. Sessions clearly and specifically (within the U.S. Senate “let’s be overly courteous” tone BS they dance around, yes sometimes is like listening to Shakespeare) that there are things to be “concerned” about including that one continually repeated RACIST comment - but what you will get is some BS like “Sessions says he would not use those words” (which they will twist to mean he thinks she is NOT Racist, not what he said!) when being badgered by David Gregory about “well Rush said” … “but then so and so said … Bigot” and you get that money quote to be taken out of context “I would not use those words” …. DO NOT LET THEM PLAY YOU/US…. The Republican Leadership IS criticising, to the extent they can before official hearings, let us give them a break and some time…..

In the mean-time… let US continue to harp on all the points they can eventually acknowledge unconstrained by the niceties of the Senate rules…..

SoSo is a Racist, Sexist, Class-ist (as well as Class-less and Clueless), and is as Radical as the Radical-In-Chief in the WH and that is exactly why she has been picked BEHIND THE HISPANIC SMOKE SCREEN DIVERSION…. All of this is open/fair game and we can/should keep harping on it - not about how our Leaders haven’t said these things “exactly” like we’d like them to. And let us keep flooding their offices with calls that they MUST return the Filibuster favor and use it!!!!!!!!!!

We need to be MAD AS HELL and not gonna take it anymore… but it has to be at the MSM for trying to DUPE US INTO A DISTRACTION NARRATIVE!!!!! Mad as Hell enough to keep calling our Representatives and DEMAND they Challenge by any and all means necessary or they will NOT get re-election support!!!

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Aww Moe

Karina Sunday, May 31st at 6:34PM EDT (link)

After the last few years of blasting away at Lindsey, you’re taking my ball away? Support him? I see your point but it’s so hard! I’m from SC and watching his support for McCain tip the state infuriated me. I’m afraid it’ll take more than one interview to do it for me.

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Who is this guy and what did you do with Lindsey Graham??

olsmithie Sunday, May 31st at 6:38PM EDT (link)

Keep waiting for Graham to stop to call the mothership for directions, but boy, I have to give him credit when he does it right!

Perhaps he has found that the best way to keep in front of the the cameras, (his major goal in life,) is to stir up controversy and ask hard questions of the liberals.

If he continues to do that I will have to commend him.

Regards

Whe Lindsey is on your side, he can be brilliant is his

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 6:52PM EDT (link)

ability to frame an issue.

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Let's get some thicker skin.

reaganwarrior Sunday, May 31st at 6:46PM EDT (link)

Her remarks, while certainly not praiseworthy, are far from being serious enough for us to care about. There are plenty of genuine racists out there, and this is a million times tamer than what any one of them would say.

Her confirmation hearings will put everything on the table and give us a more thorough view of what she believes and how she will perform as a judge. I think I’ll wait until then to get offended.

All of those racists haven't been nominated to the Supreme Court.

Flagstaff Sunday, May 31st at 7:06PM EDT (link)

That’s not the point. Her confirmation hearings will be controlled by the Dem’s to keep her in the best light.

She has made two public statements that bring her thought processes and intentions into question. The one we’ve been discussing recently, and the one where she jokes about making policy on the bench. No matter how the left spins her comment, the laughter that followed it was a combination of “Haha, that was caught on tape, you better amend it,” and “Heehee, we all know that you’re exactly right, and that’s what we want you to do. You go girl!”

Those statements need to be kept in the public’s mind.

I don’t have much hope we can stop her, but we can’t do it if we’re on our backs waiting to have a tummy-rub.

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This is actually just the kind of situation where nominationsget de-railed, and Obama and the Dems know it

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 7:17PM EDT (link)

I don’t see the whole Dem party rising in unison to defend the superior Latina and I do see Obama taking time off from golf on a Friday to try and do damage control just as Cornyn goes tone deaf and attacks Rush.

The remarks themselves have legs for a marathon especially when it will be atag team since the Ricci case will be decided before her hearing!

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And I don't think it matters which way the Ricci case goes for these purposes

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 7:18PM EDT (link)

In fact, a ruling against Ricci would stir more anger against Soto’!

But given rulings since Alito replaced O’Connor, I am confident Ricci is reversed.

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Ok, so a non-racist denies justice to white and hispanic firefighters

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 7:15PM EDT (link)

and also has a statement out there that she renders better decisions than white guys. And let’s accept a generous spin on her remarks that she only meant that in “certain cases” she would have some insight on, would her race and sex matter. Surely Ricci would be just the case, heh?

Fell better now that we are safe from all those REAL racists now?

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I'll stop posting at Dkos as MarkosMother

BooBooKitty Sunday, May 31st at 7:15PM EDT (link)

if you promise to do the same here Reaganwarrior.

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G'bye

Neil Stevens Sunday, May 31st at 7:22PM EDT (link)

Turn him back on, Neil.

Flagstaff Sunday, May 31st at 7:50PM EDT (link)

He didn’t deserve that.

And I agree with him 100% about taxes and Obama.

His earlier statement was simple math. 300 mil - 119 mil = 181 mil. It wasn’t temperate but it wasn’t outright objectionable.

And all you said was, “Hm?”

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Flag, I went back and looked at his posting history

David Hinz Sunday, May 31st at 8:13PM EDT (link)

I've read that over and over and over...

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I still don’t think I believe my eyes lol

and speaking of non-belief agreements… you send your 9 cents yet? ;-) lol or did you decide to invest in sticks instead??? (inside funnin’)

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I cannot find my pre-paid envelope

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it appears that I will have to spend the 46 cents to make my point — but:

1. I will be worth it to make the point

2. It will guarantee that they will send a second pre-paid envelope because I will show up in the database as a donor.

3. how unmanly are YOU for writing on RS during a Wings game…

hopefully others will make the strategy really amount to something

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poking at me about the game, that is a small stick - lol - DVR ;-) - I don’t like commercials I’ll be starting up the game soon.

DDD for those who don’t know what the 9 cents thing is about

/THREAD-JACK … sorry Moe

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Poor Lindsey!

Adjoran Sunday, May 31st at 6:56PM EDT (link)

All these years kissing liberals’ a??es since he became McCain’s Senate valet, and this is the thanks he gets?

Well, DUH! Now, some of you may be ready to embrace Graham for his several clearly conservative statements since the Obama Regime gained power. Be my guests, ye who refuse to learn. Just don’t come crying to me when he stabs you in the back again at a critical moment.

As for me, it takes more than a few good deeds to make amends for his many apostasies, so count this Palmetto State citizen closer to Karina’s camp than GC’s. I don’t contribute to Graham. I don’t attend functions where he is scheduled to speak. Those who support him are suspect in my mind until they prove themselves.

Sorry, but experience is a very tough teacher - and this is one lesson I’ve learned painfully well.

I have found Graham to be a mixed bag almost since day one when

Mike gamecock DeVine Sunday, May 31st at 7:12PM EDT (link)

he was the first Republican for national office I ever voted for. He was a great defender on the war most of the time. One of the few that really called out the dems for their bushlied crap.

Terrible on amnesty and La Raza.

But when he is good, he is very good. He was great on Alito and Roberts, as I recall.

So on this, while I think he was too harsh on Rush and Newt he was masterful against Soto and the dems on this matter.

I think I am in your camp bro!

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I have to give Newt a break now...

JLenardDetroit Sunday, May 31st at 8:06PM EDT (link)

I’ve been whining about his backing off the ObamaFAIL rhetoric…. darn it….

I have not been liking how Newt has backed away … but I have to remember my own comments and remember the MSM portions they are presenting are aimed at dividing us - that infighting story-line they continually push (and sometimes are right though)…..

Since he’s out of Office I’d still prefer he pick the harsher tone/words, but … well… you know….. I hate when I don’t apply what I otherwise elsewhere advocate!!!! bad-me!!

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Don't misunderstand, Graham is still re-evaluated daily

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His recent attaboys do not erase a career full of stupid moves.
His performance evaluation is day to day.
No one should suggest all is to be forgotten.

What I read is “Let’s encourage good behavior, when it does happen.”

I think eventually he will revert to form, but in the meantime, let’s enjoy it when he does something helpful.
(And yes, all in all, I would prefer a stable conservative had that seat, but we have what we have, for now.)

Regards

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I find myself siding with Lindsey Graham

E Pluribus Unum Sunday, May 31st at 7:26PM EDT (link)

What, is it a full moon or something? Planets in some weird phase?

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Full moon was the ninth

olsmithie Sunday, May 31st at 8:19PM EDT (link)

but yeah, it’s really spooky!

Regards

 

It's low sunspot activity, EPU. We can use that

janis Sunday, May 31st at 8:34PM EDT (link)

to explain pretty much anything we want at this point. Well, either that or the aftereffects of a case of swine flu.

 
 

"Empathy"

6eorge Jetson Sunday, May 31st at 11:37PM EDT (link)

I suppose So-So’s empathy stock was running low on the day of the ruling.

Empathy*

*When it suits her purposes

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6eorge Jetson Sunday, May 31st at 11:39PM EDT (link)
 

The way Sen. Graham fights

JoeG Monday, June 1st at 2:35AM EDT (link)

Far to often our problem with many Republicans is they way that they fight. That really doesn’t seem to be an issue for Senator Graham. When he gets going on an issue, he is one of the best scrappers at fighting the Dems with their own tactics.

Too bad he wasn’t on the right side more often.

 

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