Like RS’s Erick Erickson and TNR’s Ironman, I instinctively shy from a boycott of the NRCC because they had eight members out of one hundred and seventy eight who flunked a test vote. Some of the names on that list hurt to see, and a couple are exercises in teeth-grinding; but perfect is the enemy of the good, and Congressional Republicans have done a good job in using our lopsidedly minority status to the best effect possible. Nobody’s pretending that this was passed with bipartisan support. Nobody’s even trying. That’s better news for next year’s elections than what I was frankly expecting, back in December 2008.
That being said: this was a test vote, and these eight represent eight ‘Blue Dogs’ that could safely vote No on this bill and keep pretending to their constituents that they believe in fiscal responsibility, and there needs to be some sort of response to that.
I have a modest suggestion along those lines, and his name is Anh “Joseph” Cao (LA-02).
If there is a Congressman who should have gotten a signed note from Boehner excusing him from voting the GOP line, it should be Cao: we took that seat through [a metaphor that is unfortunately not really approrpriate when discussing New Orleans] in 2008; he’s going to be running for re-election in a district that is D+28; and his opponent’s candidacy is going to be fueled by outside Democratic money outraged at the sight of a Republican in that seat*. Despite that fact, Cao’s voted with the GOP on the first two test votes (’stimulus’ and cap-and-trade), very possibly at the expense of his long-term Congressional prospects**. In other words, there’s some loyalty there.
Now. Mike Castle of Delaware and Mark Kirk of Illinois are widely believed to be contemplating Senate runs in 2010. To do that, they’re going to be needing money and support, because it’s certainly not guaranteed that they’ll win. So I ask you: if you have twenty dollars that you had assigned to ’speculative races,’ who do you think needs it more right now? Heck, who do you think has earned it? Castle and Kirk, who’d like a promotion - or Cao, who’d like to keep his job?
Well, after you contribute to Cao, do one last thing: call up Rep. Castle’s (202-225-4165) and Kirk’s (202-225-4835) office and politely tell them that they lost that speculative money, because you’ve decided to reward loyalty. And if they want you to find space in the budget for another twenty dollars to support their Senate races, they had best start taking seriously the ‘R’ after their names.
I think that this is a constructive way to handle the situation.
Moe Lane
*Doubly outraged at the sight of a non-white Republican in that seat, but that’s the Northeast for you.
**This is usually the point where a certain type of commenter starts looking for a heretical vote that Cao’s cast to justify not supporting him. Don’t bother: he has. But I’m not going to make it easier for the Democrats to take this or any seat, and neither should anybody else.
Crossposted to Moe Lane.

I won't be helping Kirk, but my spare money
Brian Hibbert Monday, June 29th at 9:44AM EDT (link)is going to a more local race instead, Adam Kinzinger. Since you posted his fundraising widget, I don’t have to tell you who he is….
I’m extremely disappointed with Kirk. Although I knew he was a bit on the squishy side, I was prepared to support him in his run for the junior Illinois senate seat. Now, there’s not much difference between him and Roland Burris… I’m not going to expend any effort to help Kirk (though I’ll probably mark him for R on the ballot if he wins the primary). I will work for whoever seems likely to defeat him in the primary. If we can get a conservative on the ballot, there will be hope.
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red_oakster Monday, June 29th at 9:56AM EDT (link)I loathe cap and tax just as much as you Moe, but our choices in Delaware and Illinois Senate races are slim. Both Castle and Kirk opposed porkulus and both would be huge improvements over the current incumbents. Kirk has been a very positive force in the war against Islamofascism. Neither of these guys are as bad as Chaffee or Jeffords. Primary Mary Bono for sure, since we should get 90% conservative voting from that district. But it’s better to hold one’s nose when we get 50% and our odds of getting better than that are remote.
You don’t build conservative majorities with Illinois and Delaware. You pad GOP majorities, and that is helpful as long as your simultaneously pursuing conservative majorities.
When it comes to conservative majorities, we fail when we allow Lindsay Graham to slide into a South Carolina senate seat and we will fail if we don’t support Rubio in his primary battle against Crist. We need more primaries against the Don Youngs of the GOP caucus. And we especially need to hammer away at Democratic cap and taxer congressmen who represent red districts.
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red_oakster Monday, June 29th at 9:58AM EDT (link)“you are pursuing”
Yes to hammering Democrats in Red hued districts.
Brian Hibbert Monday, June 29th at 10:12AM EDT (link)Debbie Halvorson comes to mind and Adam Kinzinger is a great choice to replace her.
But I disagree about not being able to elect a conservative candidate in Illinois. The problem s here were mostly George Ryan induced. Blago has helped even that score a bit and they’re still shaking out the Democrat corruption that’s associated with him. If we get some good conservatives on the ballot this year, we have a chance to retake this state. If all we elect is Democrat lite, then there is no hope for Illinois ever turning red again.
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Moe Lane Monday, June 29th at 2:59PM EDT (link)I just figured that if *I*, Mr. Reflexive GOP Supporter, was this ticked off at these guys then the rest of the party must be *steaming*. This way they can show their displeasure at the break and reward those who did not.
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No, this is one of those things where a few good previous votes don't excuse you.
randy streu Monday, June 29th at 3:41PM EDT (link)they botched it, and they sold us out. This bill is a disaster. It’s not a small little matter of it being inconvenient. This bill could seriously send our economy further into the toilet, faster than it’s ever been flushed before. It will increase unemployment, while simultaneously manufacturing inflation.
this is bad law, and bad economic, and these individuals should damned well have known that.
They get no reprieve. Send them packing. I wish to Heaven I could, but McHugh’s gone and secured himself a cushy little seat elsewhere. The good news: I DO have the chance to help find somebody who ISN’T a turncoat to fill his seat.
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randy streu Monday, June 29th at 3:41PM EDT (link)but to the above. I screwed up the “reply to this.” oops.
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And if all that wasn't bad enough, randy (like it could get worse)
eburke Monday, June 29th at 5:04PM EDT (link)on top of it all, the bottom-feeding, scum-sucking pigs who voted for this abomination deprived the loyal opposition (ya know, the people who helped get their sorry a$$e$ elected) of a psycohological win at a crucial time.
War (which is what we’re in right now) is as much about morale and psychology as it is about firepower. For 5 months, The One has jammed all manner of statist, socialistic, un-Constitutional hooey down the throats of the American people. To both friend and foe alike he has seemed free to do what he wants when he wants and all we had to hang on to was the countdown to 2010.
We *finally* had the opportunity to take the sheen and luster off the ‘invincible’ Obamachine and help change the narrative and these good for nothing, worthless weasels, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Absolutely shameful!!
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Done, Moe. Question-does RS have special code?
penguin2 Monday, June 29th at 10:14AM EDT (link)Not that it is from Redstate, but that a Redstate reader is supporting the candidate-so that Redstate gets the credit.
It can be helpful to donate at this time, to show encouragement and support, especially for those really tough races.
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It might not be an official code, but I believe
The_Gadfly Monday, June 29th at 1:02PM EDT (link)past practice has been to add 2 cents to the amount of your planned contribution to let them know you came from Red State.
We’ve been called racists enough now that it shouldn’t bother us any more.
-AChance, http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/11/03/what-men-may-do-we-have-done/#comment-24463
If NY23 was a beat down for Conservatives, what do you call what happened to Progressives in NJ and VA?
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donations from RedStaters - Moderator/Director help please!
JLenardDetroit Monday, June 29th at 2:45PM EDT (link)Some donation links had been done that allows the campaign to know where they came from…. I had added those links to Candidates in my Conservative Candidates (the Diary) as I’ve come across them. Other than that, do a Google search within RedState for the person, I don’t know … with “donation” and whatever else to narrow the search… to try and find a Diary that would have been created by Erick that has a donation link directly in the Diary. I tried doing a search within RedState to find one, as I thought for sure we tried to directly help fund Cao’s campaign, but I was unable to find one - MODERATOR/DIRECTOR? do you have a more direct TextSearch capability to go through Archives to find Diaries dealing with Cao’s campaign and our attempt to support? so we can use any direct campaign donation to him and that they’d then know it came from us like we’ve had for several others recently?!?!?
Though I did find this one….. Moe Lane (11/21/08) Diary: Are you tired of William Jefferson* (D) being the Representative for LA-02? *…in his freezer.
with this donation link but it looks like it just goes directly to Cao’s site and therefore may not really provide any tracking it came from us at RedState and there is NO Comment field for us to specifially identify ourselves and why we’re donating!
Lastly, I agree with Moe and others that it is foolish for anyone to think Cao would be a 100%-er… He is, after all, expected to Represent the District he is from and they will have some Left-leaning demands of him. He must hear from us to let him know he is supported as a Republican, in general, from across the country.
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Re-Districting
redtillimdead Monday, June 29th at 1:27PM EDT (link)Hopefully, if Cao makes it through 2010 ( it CAN be done ),redistricting will make it easier for him. And if he does not make it, a 2012 re-match will be easier. I am doing a re-districting map of LA right now, making the 2nd District a little less democratic, by adding in parts of the 3rd and 1st districts. My only problem with adding the first is, I really don’t want to live in the 2nd district when I move home in a few years, but if it makes Cao’s election easier, hey.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
Wait, your doing a redistricting map?
scarlos Monday, June 29th at 3:40PM EDT (link)I didn’t think you could do that until the census in 2010; and on top of that, LA is probably going to lose a district, which is going to affect your map alot.
How can anyone be surprised when an ideology that regards wealth as a cardinal sin cannot produce it?
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redtillimdead Monday, June 29th at 4:04PM EDT (link)Yeah, theres a Microsoft Silverlght re-districting app, you can make you own maps of any states. I’m dividing up the 3rd district with the surrounding districts.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
I found it and it's really interesting
scarlos Tuesday, June 30th at 4:52AM EDT (link)The format is pretty good, and it’s easy to use.
The only apparent downside is the creator is an Obamaphile Kossack.
How can anyone be surprised when an ideology that regards wealth as a cardinal sin cannot produce it?
A liberal is a person who thinks there is no problem that cannot be solved by consolidating more power in their own hands
I think you have it backwards, Moe.
jemo2 Monday, June 29th at 3:09PM EDT (link)Joseph Cao’s votes on cap and trade and the stimulus don’t put his electoral future in jeopardy. Joseph Cao’s electoral future is a foregone conclusion, which allows him to vote no on those two bills, despite serving one of the most liberal districts in the country. Cao is going to lose in 2010. You know it, I know it, and he knows it, which is why he can vote no when his district no doubt would prefer he vote yes. Republicans are not in a position where they can throw resources at a lost cause. Have Cao vote no on every liberal piece of legislation possible, make the Dems throw as much money in that district as you can, and then prepare for the spanking that is inevitible in a +28D district. There are plenty of ways to reward party loyalty once he’s out of office in ‘10, rather than waste money we desperately need in winable races.
Mike Castle is a very popular Republican in a very blue state and has a real shot at stealing a senate seat that we need to have to offset some of the losses we’ve suffered. Give him your twenty bucks.
So you want to reward those who vote to destroy our economy...nice to know...nt
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Hey, if you want to give Castle that $20, go ahead.
Moe Lane Monday, June 29th at 3:17PM EDT (link)But if you’ve decided that this was the last straw… there are other Republicans who can use the money. Ones that *do* do their part for the party.
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Neil Stevens Monday, June 29th at 3:20PM EDT (link)Why would you feel the need to do that?
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redtillimdead Monday, June 29th at 4:09PM EDT (link)What happens if the Democrats nominate a black candidate, but another black candidate chooses to run as an independent, to have a sure shot at Cao? Then, the black vote is divided. Also, New Orleans East has a high Vietnamese population, sure to help Cao. Oh, its also gotten more Republican, down to D+25 now. There is a 2.7 % Asian poplation, and a 30.2% white population. IF the black vote is divided, and some will vote for Cao, then Cao has a chance, and if not in 2010, at a 2012 ( or 14, when Obama is not on the top of the ticket) rematch. If John Georges or a Republican leaning person is elected Mayor next year, and is popular, they may help Cao and campaign hard for him. Expect to see alot of Jindal, and, hopefully, Michael Steele in the district.
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
Gotta be realistic.
jemo2 Monday, June 29th at 4:10PM EDT (link)Money is not flowing like it once was. The Dem machine has heavy hitters throwing money in a district where average D would beat average R by a huge margin. I like Cao an awful lot, and think he will have a place in Republican politics for a long time, but I just don’t see a scenario of him winning in ‘10 unless the dems are stupid enough to run another guy with kickback money in his freezer.
Give to Rubio. Give to Blunt. And yes, give to Castle even if he doesn’t fin your profile of a perfect candidate (by punishing Castle, you realize you’re helping a guy like mini-Biden, right? Castle can win that seat! Would you rather have a moderate or a super-lefty? Unfortunately a conservative won’t be on the ballot).
There are lots of wins to be had out there. This just ain’t one of them.
Yeah...realistic....uhhh...have you seen the fund raising numbers...
Aaron Gardner Monday, June 29th at 4:22PM EDT (link)have you seen the huge debt that the D’s are carrying.
You should try realism.
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eburke Monday, June 29th at 5:17PM EDT (link)un-Constitutional, job-killing, bribery-enhancing steaming pile of manure has forever forfeited the right to be called anything but a left-wing liberal.
Moderate my a$$.
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Maybe..
redtillimdead Monday, June 29th at 5:19PM EDT (link)There have been rumors of Jefferson running for a re-match, if he is not indicted. An indictment could help us tho, give Democrats some bad press going into this
Nancy Pelosi can kiss my asstroturf.
I know the dems have debt. That's not the point.
jemo2 Monday, June 29th at 4:36PM EDT (link)Do you think debt means they won’t throw money like crazy in the next cycle? That has nothing to do with whether or not Cao can win in ‘10.
All I’m saying is if the Dems put up a living, breathing human, it is their seat to lose. The fundraising arms are doing well, but that money is better spent on more winable elections. That’s what we need to be realistic about.
I appreciate Cao fighting the good fight, as Moe pointed out, and he should and will remain involved as time goes on. But he won in 08 with just 50% of the vote against a guy with cash in his freezer. That’s not a knock on him, that’s just a demonstration of how liberal LA-2 is.
Ok Jemo...first off "Reply to this" is your friend...
Aaron Gardner Monday, June 29th at 4:42PM EDT (link)Second, I would rather give money to Cao, who can win despite your protests, then to give money to someone who is not willing to put his country above his electoral success.
The point is that principles do matter, both in elections and in actually governing. If I were to follow your philosophy we could have a Republican majority in the House but there would be no real governing majority.
How does that help Republicans or our Country?
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