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	<title>Comments on: Yes, the President of the Valley Swim Club is a John G Duesler, Jr.</title>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on ya.........</description>
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		<title>By: WilliamPennybanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>WilliamPennybanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew leftists would hunt down any women or minorities that weren't pulling their weight in the advancement of liberalism (Sarah, Clarence Thomas, Bobby Jindal, Miguel Estrada, etc etc etc) but I didn't know they reserved enough venom for children who dared to sully the complexion of the swimming pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew leftists would hunt down any women or minorities that weren&#8217;t pulling their weight in the advancement of liberalism (Sarah, Clarence Thomas, Bobby Jindal, Miguel Estrada, etc etc etc) but I didn&#8217;t know they reserved enough venom for children who dared to sully the complexion of the swimming pool.</p>
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		<title>By: jakee308</title>
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		<dc:creator>jakee308</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was him who initiated the complaint. Apparently there were other members present when the day care folks showed up and it was THEY who complained.

I'm guessing that these kids went a little freaky (as kids who get over excited are wont to do. No matter the color of their skin) and this was deemed indicative of "inner city 'yout' behavior" by the grand dames present and they proceeded to evacuate the pool and complain to management. (I can understand their point of view also. Recall the actions in the past at Urban pools in the past at other places around the country. Some pretty raw stuff took place, mostly perpetrated against young females.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was him who initiated the complaint. Apparently there were other members present when the day care folks showed up and it was THEY who complained.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing that these kids went a little freaky (as kids who get over excited are wont to do. No matter the color of their skin) and this was deemed indicative of &#8220;inner city &#8216;yout&#8217; behavior&#8221; by the grand dames present and they proceeded to evacuate the pool and complain to management. (I can understand their point of view also. Recall the actions in the past at Urban pools in the past at other places around the country. Some pretty raw stuff took place, mostly perpetrated against young females.)</p>
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		<title>By: DONTREADONME</title>
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		<dc:creator>DONTREADONME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>probably has a lot of liberals in it, who would thunk I was ever so right.  "I know these guys like every square inch of my glorious naked body"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probably has a lot of liberals in it, who would thunk I was ever so right.  &#8220;I know these guys like every square inch of my glorious naked body&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the thing is, often times those people uttering those words aren't really racist that they would deny giving help, service, etc based on race,  they may even sacrifice money that really goes to help (like private school scholarships, a baseballs teams trip to a higher competition, a trip for a class to go out of state) no matter the race, and it really is behavior they are criticizing but the people so quick to jump on stuff really do have a lot of hate in their hearts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the thing is, often times those people uttering those words aren&#8217;t really racist that they would deny giving help, service, etc based on race,  they may even sacrifice money that really goes to help (like private school scholarships, a baseballs teams trip to a higher competition, a trip for a class to go out of state) no matter the race, and it really is behavior they are criticizing but the people so quick to jump on stuff really do have a lot of hate in their hearts.</p>
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		<title>By: boomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>boomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's just so much typical liberalism.  You go around laying burdens on other people (prosecuting 18 year olds),  just so that you look high-minded.  But when it comes to your own personal interests, you're quite an SOB.  The hypocrisy of it galls me.  They are all for equality, as long as its other people's liberties they crush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just so much typical liberalism.  You go around laying burdens on other people (prosecuting 18 year olds),  just so that you look high-minded.  But when it comes to your own personal interests, you&#8217;re quite an SOB.  The hypocrisy of it galls me.  They are all for equality, as long as its other people&#8217;s liberties they crush.</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For More Information...Contact PA-Philadephia Board Chair, Dr. John G. Duesler, Jr.

http://www.peaceactionphiladelphia.org/

chair@peaceactionphiladelphia.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For More Information&#8230;Contact PA-Philadephia Board Chair, Dr. John G. Duesler, Jr.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.peaceactionphiladelphia.org/">http://www.peaceactionphiladelphia.org/</a></p>
<p><a href="mailto:chair@peaceactionphiladelphia.org">chair@peaceactionphiladelphia.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://web.archive.org/web/20050307212823/www.thevalleyclub.com/map.html</description>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think they would pull this:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/09/philly.pool/index.html

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/cjames/2009/07/why-guilty-white-liberals-feel.php?ref=reccafe

http://web.archive.org/web/20050307212516/www.thevalleyclub.com/foxchase_statement.html

I welcome any questions or invite you to take a look at the club at any time. Call me to discuss joining our club. I look forward to hearing from you!

Dr. John G. Duesler, Jr.
President, The Valley Swim Club
(215) 914-0595 or E-mail Me!

Dr. Duesler also a leading peace activist who was quoted here, 

On the eve of the national holiday honoring the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., questions about the nature of peace drew a small but engaged group to the Philadelphia Ethical Society in Rittenhouse Square yesterday.

Harry Thorn (left) listens to Mangaliso Ture's peace initiatives in a gathering at the Philadelphia Ethical Society. Billed as an ethnic peace festival, it brought together those interested in forging better relations.

One oft-cited example of literary peace-making is the 1931 poem "Conscientious Objector" by Edna St. Vincent Millay, which Duesler recited by heart as the meeting began. Its memorable opening stirred the group: "I shall die, but that is all that I shall do for Death."

King sought political solutions to discrimination and war, and had he not been assassinated in 1968 at age 39, he likely would have played a pivotal peace-making role in the world for years to come, said Phyllis Gilbert, Peace Action's executive director.

"Peace-making takes many shapes and forms," whether political action or even artistic and literary expression, said John G. Duesler Jr., board chairman of Peace Action-Philadelphia, the event's sponsor. It was billed as an ethnic peace festival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think they would pull this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/09/philly.pool/index.html">http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/09/philly.pool/index.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/cjames/2009/07/why-guilty-white-liberals-feel.php?ref=reccafe">http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/cjames/2009/07/why-guilty-white-liberals-feel.php?ref=reccafe</a></p>
<p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20050307212516/www.thevalleyclub.com/foxchase_statement.html">http://web.archive.org/web/20050307212516/www.thevalleyclub.com/foxchase_statement.html</a></p>
<p>I welcome any questions or invite you to take a look at the club at any time. Call me to discuss joining our club. I look forward to hearing from you!</p>
<p>Dr. John G. Duesler, Jr.<br />
President, The Valley Swim Club<br />
(215) 914-0595 or E-mail Me!</p>
<p>Dr. Duesler also a leading peace activist who was quoted here, </p>
<p>On the eve of the national holiday honoring the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., questions about the nature of peace drew a small but engaged group to the Philadelphia Ethical Society in Rittenhouse Square yesterday.</p>
<p>Harry Thorn (left) listens to Mangaliso Ture&#8217;s peace initiatives in a gathering at the Philadelphia Ethical Society. Billed as an ethnic peace festival, it brought together those interested in forging better relations.</p>
<p>One oft-cited example of literary peace-making is the 1931 poem &#8220;Conscientious Objector&#8221; by Edna St. Vincent Millay, which Duesler recited by heart as the meeting began. Its memorable opening stirred the group: &#8220;I shall die, but that is all that I shall do for Death.&#8221;</p>
<p>King sought political solutions to discrimination and war, and had he not been assassinated in 1968 at age 39, he likely would have played a pivotal peace-making role in the world for years to come, said Phyllis Gilbert, Peace Action&#8217;s executive director.</p>
<p>&#8220;Peace-making takes many shapes and forms,&#8221; whether political action or even artistic and literary expression, said John G. Duesler Jr., board chairman of Peace Action-Philadelphia, the event&#8217;s sponsor. It was billed as an ethnic peace festival.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Baetz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Baetz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... Racism still exists in 2009...

There is a story on Drudge right now about a white Ohio family that was assaulted by a gang of black teenagers without provocation.  

&lt;i&gt;"It came after a family night of celebrating America and freedom with a fireworks show at Firestone Stadium. Marshall, his family and two friends were gathered outside a friend's home in South Akron.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Out of nowhere, the six were attacked by dozens of teenage boys, who shouted ''This is our world'' and ''This is a black world'' as they confronted Marshall and his family.&lt;/i&gt;

The story goes on to state how the father was put in a critical care unit for 5 days.  

This reminds me of the Black Panther intimidation at the Polls in Philadelphia, how they were shouting, "You're about to be ruled by a black man!" 

The South Akron police are hesitant to call this a hate crime... hmm... can you hear that?  That's the sound of a duck quacking...

It seems the Liberals don't want them in their backyards as Moe pointed out... and apparently black folks don't want them in theirs either...

Now who are the racists these days? Hmmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; Racism still exists in 2009&#8230;</p>
<p>There is a story on Drudge right now about a white Ohio family that was assaulted by a gang of black teenagers without provocation.  </p>
<p><i>&#8220;It came after a family night of celebrating America and freedom with a fireworks show at Firestone Stadium. Marshall, his family and two friends were gathered outside a friend&#8217;s home in South Akron.</i></p>
<p><i>Out of nowhere, the six were attacked by dozens of teenage boys, who shouted &#8221;This is our world&#8221; and &#8221;This is a black world&#8221; as they confronted Marshall and his family.</i></p>
<p>The story goes on to state how the father was put in a critical care unit for 5 days.  </p>
<p>This reminds me of the Black Panther intimidation at the Polls in Philadelphia, how they were shouting, &#8220;You&#8217;re about to be ruled by a black man!&#8221; </p>
<p>The South Akron police are hesitant to call this a hate crime&#8230; hmm&#8230; can you hear that?  That&#8217;s the sound of a duck quacking&#8230;</p>
<p>It seems the Liberals don&#8217;t want them in their backyards as Moe pointed out&#8230; and apparently black folks don&#8217;t want them in theirs either&#8230;</p>
<p>Now who are the racists these days? Hmmm?</p>
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		<title>By: izoneguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>izoneguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at a middle school in Maryland. I rode the bus. All the kids in my neighborhood were white. We picked up black kids from all over the countryside. Most of them lived in what were really shacks. These black kids were rude, crude and illiterate. We went to the same classes and had the same teachers. They refused to learn. They mocked the teachers and would walk out of class. It was almost like being in a zoo. They were poor and probably did not even have running water or electricity. But once they were in school they had the same opportunity to sit &#38; listen &#38; learn. If anything they were ruining it for the kids that did want to learn. Not every black kid was like this but it was a majority that was rude &#38; disruptive in the classroom. The teachers were afraid to do anything. On the rides room I was usually spat on, beat up and if I had anything they liked they usually stole it from me. The bus drivers never did anything either. So now you have the thugs in D.C. all grown up doing the same thing to America. We moved to Texas in 1970 and I have never left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at a middle school in Maryland. I rode the bus. All the kids in my neighborhood were white. We picked up black kids from all over the countryside. Most of them lived in what were really shacks. These black kids were rude, crude and illiterate. We went to the same classes and had the same teachers. They refused to learn. They mocked the teachers and would walk out of class. It was almost like being in a zoo. They were poor and probably did not even have running water or electricity. But once they were in school they had the same opportunity to sit &amp; listen &amp; learn. If anything they were ruining it for the kids that did want to learn. Not every black kid was like this but it was a majority that was rude &amp; disruptive in the classroom. The teachers were afraid to do anything. On the rides room I was usually spat on, beat up and if I had anything they liked they usually stole it from me. The bus drivers never did anything either. So now you have the thugs in D.C. all grown up doing the same thing to America. We moved to Texas in 1970 and I have never left.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never knew that stereotype but I know in the last few years when I have spoken up about some statement about the poor,blacks, etc I have been met that type of thing that you are talking about and yes the degrees differ with people. One time someone called me a boot strapper. Another time someone said I don't understand (the situation of the poor). :D Now some are even very generous too but there is still this thinking that the poor are stupid, helpless etc.  Honestly it shocked me that people thought like how they do because I did not know people that thought like that growing up. I often qualify what I say with "to the best of their ability" and I really mean it and there are so many different areas and levels it applies to. 

You are right with your diary, it's really a false thing to say that people are racist because they do not want to give people special treatment they did not earn. People seem to confuse consideration to someone's situation and instead of having true consideration with common sense and maturity they view people as stupid and helpless. I guess that is easier for people than to have real concern or try to have understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never knew that stereotype but I know in the last few years when I have spoken up about some statement about the poor,blacks, etc I have been met that type of thing that you are talking about and yes the degrees differ with people. One time someone called me a boot strapper. Another time someone said I don&#8217;t understand (the situation of the poor). <img src='http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> Now some are even very generous too but there is still this thinking that the poor are stupid, helpless etc.  Honestly it shocked me that people thought like how they do because I did not know people that thought like that growing up. I often qualify what I say with &#8220;to the best of their ability&#8221; and I really mean it and there are so many different areas and levels it applies to. </p>
<p>You are right with your diary, it&#8217;s really a false thing to say that people are racist because they do not want to give people special treatment they did not earn. People seem to confuse consideration to someone&#8217;s situation and instead of having true consideration with common sense and maturity they view people as stupid and helpless. I guess that is easier for people than to have real concern or try to have understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle8</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of the 21 largest race riot in American History were in the south. I wrote a diary about it in the old Redstate. Also, the majority of EEOC violations are also in non-southern states.

you can see it here :

http://impudent.blognation.us/blog/_archives/2005/12/25/1514208.html

just cut and paste that over your hot bar on your browser</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of the 21 largest race riot in American History were in the south. I wrote a diary about it in the old Redstate. Also, the majority of EEOC violations are also in non-southern states.</p>
<p>you can see it here :</p>
<p><a href="http://impudent.blognation.us/blog/_archives/2005/12/25/1514208.html">http://impudent.blognation.us/blog/_archives/2005/12/25/1514208.html</a></p>
<p>just cut and paste that over your hot bar on your browser</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>has been demagogued to such an extent that one can hardly utter an honest word or common sense approach about it which doesn't raise cat calls and worse from people of all political stripes with some sort of vested interest in the matter....

And, you're right, some Repubs actually still DO fit the racist-conservative-white-man stereotype....not near as many as the old MSM would like young, impressionable voters to think, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>has been demagogued to such an extent that one can hardly utter an honest word or common sense approach about it which doesn&#8217;t raise cat calls and worse from people of all political stripes with some sort of vested interest in the matter&#8230;.</p>
<p>And, you&#8217;re right, some Repubs actually still DO fit the racist-conservative-white-man stereotype&#8230;.not near as many as the old MSM would like young, impressionable voters to think, however.</p>
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		<title>By: Warrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in the South and have never seen the vicious, hateful bigotry which has been on display in the North only recently.  I went to integrated schools for the most part (it hadn't happened yet when I was in grade school,) had black friends, clients, bosses and neighbors.  I haven't heard a racial remark in twenty years.

Of course, I have known people who have spouted racist hate, but generally, they were folks with serious personal problems in addition to racism.  I'll never forget being asked to join the Klan in the late '70's.  The little guy making the "offer" was pitiful -- dead-end job, poor up-bringing, not much future.  Obviously, the Klan represented some way for him obtain a modicum of power and self-respect, regardless of how warped such characteristcs might when obtained in this fashion.  Of course, I told him "no."  But I didn't ridicule him, I only felt sorry for him.

Many people still have a very naive view of the South and Southerners, perpetuated and exacerbated for fun and profit by leftist Hollywood types.

Most Southerners did not own slaves.  Most cotton was picked by whites.  Most whites were dirt poor.  Most sharecroppers were white. And on and on.  But you'd never know it watching pointedly demagogic and inflammatory hit pieces like "Mississippi Burning," "A Time To Kill"and "The Chamber."

Yes, certainly there are still pockets of racism in the South, but the most virulent racial hate I've seen is up Nawth...I guess the difference is, racism is generally not tolerated down here anymore, although it still exists.  Unfortunately, it will always exist, everywhere and in people of all races.  Our job is simply to not tolerate it --- in anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in the South and have never seen the vicious, hateful bigotry which has been on display in the North only recently.  I went to integrated schools for the most part (it hadn&#8217;t happened yet when I was in grade school,) had black friends, clients, bosses and neighbors.  I haven&#8217;t heard a racial remark in twenty years.</p>
<p>Of course, I have known people who have spouted racist hate, but generally, they were folks with serious personal problems in addition to racism.  I&#8217;ll never forget being asked to join the Klan in the late &#8217;70&#8217;s.  The little guy making the &#8220;offer&#8221; was pitiful &#8212; dead-end job, poor up-bringing, not much future.  Obviously, the Klan represented some way for him obtain a modicum of power and self-respect, regardless of how warped such characteristcs might when obtained in this fashion.  Of course, I told him &#8220;no.&#8221;  But I didn&#8217;t ridicule him, I only felt sorry for him.</p>
<p>Many people still have a very naive view of the South and Southerners, perpetuated and exacerbated for fun and profit by leftist Hollywood types.</p>
<p>Most Southerners did not own slaves.  Most cotton was picked by whites.  Most whites were dirt poor.  Most sharecroppers were white. And on and on.  But you&#8217;d never know it watching pointedly demagogic and inflammatory hit pieces like &#8220;Mississippi Burning,&#8221; &#8220;A Time To Kill&#8221;and &#8220;The Chamber.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, certainly there are still pockets of racism in the South, but the most virulent racial hate I&#8217;ve seen is up Nawth&#8230;I guess the difference is, racism is generally not tolerated down here anymore, although it still exists.  Unfortunately, it will always exist, everywhere and in people of all races.  Our job is simply to not tolerate it &#8212; in anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Savage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack_Savage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is basically one big wish-we-were-gated community of lunatic lefties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is basically one big wish-we-were-gated community of lunatic lefties.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/09/yes-the-president-of-the-valley-swim-club-is-a-john-g-duesler-jr/#comment-18657</link>
		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally understood more of that diary you wrote when you explained it above. I had a neighbor exactly like that. I guess that is why ITS SO HARD to debate with them (and many republicans with the same type of attitudes) about how much people can do for themselves because they are so distant from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally understood more of that diary you wrote when you explained it above. I had a neighbor exactly like that. I guess that is why ITS SO HARD to debate with them (and many republicans with the same type of attitudes) about how much people can do for themselves because they are so distant from it.</p>
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		<title>By: 6eorge Jetson</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to stay on the other side of their gated communities.

&lt;a href="http://www.chapelhillnews.com/front/story/38827.html"&gt;Chapel Hill Community Leadership guest speaker offers his perception&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;"You're rich. You're mostly white. You're the slowest-growing area [in North Carolina] that isn't going backward," said guest speaker Ted Abernathy, executive director of the Southern Growth Policies Board and the former economic development officer for Orange County and the City of Durham. "Your housing is the highest priced. You're exclusive."&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to stay on the other side of their gated communities.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chapelhillnews.com/front/story/38827.html">Chapel Hill Community Leadership guest speaker offers his perception</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;You&#8217;re rich. You&#8217;re mostly white. You&#8217;re the slowest-growing area [in North Carolina] that isn&#8217;t going backward,&#8221; said guest speaker Ted Abernathy, executive director of the Southern Growth Policies Board and the former economic development officer for Orange County and the City of Durham. &#8220;Your housing is the highest priced. You&#8217;re exclusive.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what you are saying but I don't know that it applies to this man. We don't even know what he said for sure. Some  of the comments were from parents. We should not deny when you see behaviors from a certain group enough we do associate behaviors with that group like teens and driving would be one example.  Also I've seen more than once when people cry about their mistreatment after they acted like barbarians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what you are saying but I don&#8217;t know that it applies to this man. We don&#8217;t even know what he said for sure. Some  of the comments were from parents. We should not deny when you see behaviors from a certain group enough we do associate behaviors with that group like teens and driving would be one example.  Also I&#8217;ve seen more than once when people cry about their mistreatment after they acted like barbarians.</p>
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		<title>By: mom2oneson</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2oneson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.redstate.com/czs/2009/07/08/news-item-pa-swim-club-throws-out-black-kids/#comment-42

I don't agree this is automatically racist.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t agree this is automatically racist.</p>
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