Comments on: Male unemployment at 10.5%. http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/ Tue, 01 Dec 2009 03:28:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Achance http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18751 Achance Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:00:22 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18751 a man can live quite comfortaby with complete, that is capital letter complete, celibacy, quite comfortably. That means no sex, no masturbation, no dirty movies, no fantasies, no bad thoughts, and you can actually do it if you really want to. I quite literally sentenced myself to celibacy at one point in my life because I had gotten completely out of control; if a woman would let me, I would, and it was putting my marriage, my job, and my reputation at serious risk. I have one of those Alpha-male addictive personalities and half measures will not do for me. If some is good, lots is better, and I cannot satisfy myself with "some." The only thing that has solved, somewhat, that for me is getting old enough that the right head is more often in control. I've actually had some pretty good arguments with SWMBO about this; she's graphic evidence that women find their favorite position about the same time men find their favorite chair. I just told her flat out that I was tired of being led around by Mr. Happy and this was simply the way it was. So, for some of us no woman can really PW us for long, maybe six weeks outside, so it has to be a matter of discipline and will. I've lived long enough to learn that something that makes me breath hard isn't necessarily the predicate of a life relationship. Until you learn that, it is pretty much all or nothing. a man can live quite comfortaby with complete, that is capital letter complete, celibacy, quite comfortably. That means no sex, no masturbation, no dirty movies, no fantasies, no bad thoughts, and you can actually do it if you really want to.

I quite literally sentenced myself to celibacy at one point in my life because I had gotten completely out of control; if a woman would let me, I would, and it was putting my marriage, my job, and my reputation at serious risk. I have one of those Alpha-male addictive personalities and half measures will not do for me. If some is good, lots is better, and I cannot satisfy myself with “some.”

The only thing that has solved, somewhat, that for me is getting old enough that the right head is more often in control. I’ve actually had some pretty good arguments with SWMBO about this; she’s graphic evidence that women find their favorite position about the same time men find their favorite chair. I just told her flat out that I was tired of being led around by Mr. Happy and this was simply the way it was.

So, for some of us no woman can really PW us for long, maybe six weeks outside, so it has to be a matter of discipline and will. I’ve lived long enough to learn that something that makes me breath hard isn’t necessarily the predicate of a life relationship. Until you learn that, it is pretty much all or nothing.

]]> By: JHancock http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18747 JHancock Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:29:35 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18747 Just better at it :-) Just better at it :-)

]]> By: JHancock http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18746 JHancock Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:27:21 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18746 Actually I'd be OK with that-so long as it is a Conservative secessionist Revolution Actually I’d be OK with that-so long as it is a Conservative secessionist Revolution

]]> By: itrytobenice http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18745 itrytobenice Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:13:48 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18745 Thank God, but in my experience, keeping hubby well bred keeps all kinds of tempers and frustrations at bay. I don't really understand how it all works, but the phrase pu$$y-whipped was accepted into the lexicon for a reason. They just do better that way. I think it was Robin Williams who said that men are born with two heads but only enough blood to run one at a time. So keep the South one shrunken and empty. It lets the blood flow to the North one. In my non-sociologist/psychologist opinion. And you can assume this is all theoretical so you don't have to wonder if you just got TMI. Thank God, but in my experience, keeping hubby well bred keeps all kinds of tempers and frustrations at bay. I don’t really understand how it all works, but the phrase pu$$y-whipped was accepted into the lexicon for a reason. They just do better that way.

I think it was Robin Williams who said that men are born with two heads but only enough blood to run one at a time. So keep the South one shrunken and empty. It lets the blood flow to the North one.

In my non-sociologist/psychologist opinion. And you can assume this is all theoretical so you don’t have to wonder if you just got TMI.

]]> By: itrytobenice http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18744 itrytobenice Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:08:18 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18744 Or is this a rhetorical question? Or is this a rhetorical question?

]]> By: DRW http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18738 DRW Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:18:59 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18738 I don't think it's just the general "frustration" - remember the classic 72 virgins after martyrdom? If you don't have a chance to find a woman/reproduce in this life but someone has given a sliver of hope that if you follow them, you will in the next life... I don’t think it’s just the general “frustration” - remember the classic 72 virgins after martyrdom? If you don’t have a chance to find a woman/reproduce in this life but someone has given a sliver of hope that if you follow them, you will in the next life…

]]> By: Darin_H http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18737 Darin_H Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:31:49 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18737 and we get free TP and paper towel as a benefit too and we get free TP and paper towel as a benefit too

]]> By: Moe Lane http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18735 Moe Lane Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:39:41 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18735 I probably will watch the original, but I'd definitely watch that. I probably will watch the original, but I’d definitely watch that.

]]> By: keeper http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18734 keeper Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:22:14 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18734 going to war with china in the next 10 years. "An official estimate says that, by 2020, there may be 30 million men of marriageable age who will not be able to find a wife. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6346931.stm 30 million men with no wives, no families. China will have to thin out there male population with a war, maybe time to take back Taiwan. going to war with china in the next 10 years.

“An official estimate says that, by 2020, there may be 30 million men of marriageable age who will not be able to find a wife. ”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6346931.stm

30 million men with no wives, no families. China will have to thin out there male population with a war, maybe time to take back Taiwan.

]]> By: mom2oneson http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18733 mom2oneson Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:39:27 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18733 don't seem to get hired for clerical jobs. I have no idea what the reason is for that. don’t seem to get hired for clerical jobs. I have no idea what the reason is for that.

]]> By: mom2oneson http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18732 mom2oneson Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:30:39 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18732 A lot of women already work part time or two part time or less than full time so they don't get cut first or they work on contract or as needed. Jobs in healthcare will always be and education is funded by the gov. There is more and more subsidized daycare now so there women don't have to account the cost for childcare to work a low paying job part time. A lot of women didn't work before because it wouldn't be worth it but now there is extremely inexpensive daycare due to the gov paying for part of it. So that increases the workforce for lower paying jobs and there are less lower paying jobs empty for men to pick up in times like this. More subsidized daycare, universal preschool, expanding special education and tutoring funds from like NCLB means more childcare/education jobs too because more of a demand. This is not meant to debase GOOD MEN there are A LOT of men that will work low paying jobs to make it, but I see it more with women through the years they seem to accept something low paying/menial to get by. Now I see some of those sams men's attitudes changing that before would just go on about that job not being enough it's kind of weird how they change but for years I saw that mostly in women that would just do whatever to keep their rent paid. So I think a lot of women have those jobs now that a lot of men would never work before. The baby boomers are getting older and there is more health care needs especially with lower skilled health care like sitters, home health aides and nursing assistant that primarily women work. That is a good point about automation too.. I wasn't thinking about that. I was thinking like men seem to have careers in non human service type of fields that get cut quicker than human service stuff. A lot of women already work part time or two part time or less than full time so they don’t get cut first or they work on contract or as needed.
Jobs in healthcare will always be and education is funded by the gov.
There is more and more subsidized daycare now so there women don’t have to account the cost for childcare to work a low paying job part time. A lot of women didn’t work before because it wouldn’t be worth it but now there is extremely inexpensive daycare due to the gov paying for part of it. So that increases the workforce for lower paying jobs and there are less lower paying jobs empty for men to pick up in times like this.
More subsidized daycare, universal preschool, expanding special education and tutoring funds from like NCLB means more childcare/education jobs too because more of a demand.
This is not meant to debase GOOD MEN there are A LOT of men that will work low paying jobs to make it, but I see it more with women through the years they seem to accept something low paying/menial to get by. Now I see some of those sams men’s attitudes changing that before would just go on about that job not being enough it’s kind of weird how they change but for years I saw that mostly in women that would just do whatever to keep their rent paid. So I think a lot of women have those jobs now that a lot of men would never work before.
The baby boomers are getting older and there is more health care needs especially with lower skilled health care like sitters, home health aides and nursing assistant that primarily women work.
That is a good point about automation too.. I wasn’t thinking about that. I was thinking like men seem to have careers in non human service type of fields that get cut quicker than human service stuff.

]]> By: Mike gamecock DeVine http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18731 Mike gamecock DeVine Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:06:04 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18731 relative physical strength advantage relative physical strength advantage

]]> By: Finrod http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18730 Finrod Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:59:01 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18730 And there ain't no frustration like sexual frustration. And there ain’t no frustration like sexual frustration.

]]> By: mom2oneson http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18729 mom2oneson Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:58:27 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18729 A lot of traditionally women's jobs are not hit so hard by recessions. A lot of traditionally women’s jobs are not hit so hard by recessions.

]]> By: izoneguy http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18728 izoneguy Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:51:55 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18728 <p><object width="580" height="360"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZW2qxFkcLM0&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZW2qxFkcLM0&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0&color1=0x5d1719&color2=0xcd311b&border=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="580" height="360"></embed></object></p>

]]> By: mom2oneson http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18727 mom2oneson Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:50:06 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18727 ]]> By: mom2oneson http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18726 mom2oneson Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:49:50 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18726 What does men having relations have to do with violence? If anything I think the married ones would have more stress because of the responsibility of supporting a wife, girlfriend, kids and being unemployed. What does men having relations have to do with violence? If anything I think the married ones would have more stress because of the responsibility of supporting a wife, girlfriend, kids and being unemployed.

]]> By: Finrod http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18725 Finrod Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:37:32 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18725 I'm reminded of a theory I came up with as to why there are so many young radicalized males in the Middle East. In addition to high unemployment in the Middle East, young males also suffer from a lack of any sexual outlets: Masturbation is forbidden in Islam Homosexuality is forbidden in Islam Polygamy, however, is allowed in Islam This makes for a large number of unemployed males that can't find a woman (because they'd rather be the 3rd or 4th wife of someone that's successful), and aren't allowed any other sexual outlet. This frustration thus gets channeled against other targets. I’m reminded of a theory I came up with as to why there are so many young radicalized males in the Middle East. In addition to high unemployment in the Middle East, young males also suffer from a lack of any sexual outlets:

Masturbation is forbidden in Islam
Homosexuality is forbidden in Islam
Polygamy, however, is allowed in Islam

This makes for a large number of unemployed males that can’t find a woman (because they’d rather be the 3rd or 4th wife of someone that’s successful), and aren’t allowed any other sexual outlet. This frustration thus gets channeled against other targets.

]]> By: Aaron Gardner http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18724 Aaron Gardner Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:36:44 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18724 ]]> By: keeper http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/2009/07/10/male-unemployment-at-105/#comment-18723 keeper Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:36:36 +0000 http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/?p=3594#comment-18723 Are you implying that men are more inherently prone to violence and crime? Are you implying that men are more inherently prone to violence and crime?

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