Comments on: This sums up the Democratic Congressional strategy perfectly.

By: deevee

deevee — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:45:50 +0000

I urge you even though county elections ( Wisconsin ) are non partisan, find out if the individual running for election is liberal or conservative. For the most part, do not vote for people who have worked for government they have that government-give-them-what they-want-don’t-read-the-bill attitude.

Please hold all elected individuals feet to the fire.

Thank you Rep. Ryan for working on this issue for the working family.

Leave our health care insurance alone and oh, get out of the way government!

By: erp

erp — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:06:14 +0000

If something is a bad idea, it doesn’t matter how much it costs. This is a bad idea even if it’s completely free.

By: djemi

djemi — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:24:35 +0000

If it gets that bad 50% I don’t think that there will be a government but that just me and my good old fear.
Anyway IMHO the government has only one opption in my book and that is to take the money off the dead and by that I mean that inheritance tax. I say this for two reason 1) the person getting Taxed is well dead so the government aint going to get sued, well maybe and 2) It’s the best time for them to take it as it is the wealth of an entire lifetime of work.

By: izoneguy

izoneguy — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:59:37 +0000

beg forgiveness after the fact.

It is a one way street with no right turns….
If the Republicans are going to sit there and let them pass
everything and expect to “fix it” later….
Well look at Social Security, MediCare and all the other
entitlements that the left has thrust upon America over the last
70+ years.

At least in the past the left let Americans work enough to get ahead and left us with enough to make it worth our while. Pretty soon if there is no incentive to start a business and work then why work? Why let the government take 50% of everything? I would rather make the minimal amount needed to survive. Where will the government gets it’s money when we have 50% unemployment?
By that time no country in the world will invest in the Bankrupt former United States.

By: djemi

djemi — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:49:35 +0000

And I know thats BOs ambition given what he has said lately.

By: amigag

amigag — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:37:54 +0000

Pharos, thank you for the explanation. It makes sense. I have only been following politics for about 10 years & did not have a computer until the last
2; still trying to figure things out.

JLenardDetroit Thanks, I’ll look up some of those links you have there.

P.S. I can never get the “Reply To This” to work, it always goes to a page
that says can’t find or something technical.

By: civil_truth

civil_truth — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:22:00 +0000

…and this would also result in the demise of representative government.

When you think how long the Constutitution was debated, you see an effort for everyone to speak and to come to agreement.

In our system of government, representatives are supposed to evaluated the bills they are presented with and at least get some input from the voters in their decision how to vote.

This new legislature has now decide that the Soviet model is best: the leaders write the legislation, the representatives pass the bill under threat of retaliation from the leaders or the President, and then the representatives have to sell the bill to their constitutents after the fact.

The last minute nature (or evn alterationis after the vote) is deliberately designed to eliminate meaningful debate and consideration and prevent opposition (since no one knows the content, and they can be lied to with promised with impunity because by the time they discover they’ve been had, it’s all over).

This is how dictatorships operate, not what our two-chamber system of govenment had in mind. Welcome to hope and change.

We may be able to change the Congress and President party control by 2012, but even if we do, the harm to our system of governance has suffered a grievous wound that will take years or even generations to heal, if ever.

But if your ambition is a one-party state and irreversible changes, then things are going right according to plan.

By: JLenardDetroit

JLenardDetroit — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:19:16 +0000

… they roll-over on command by their Masters (Democrat Party Money Machine)…

Blue-Dogs Myth - Red-Dogs, RINOs, CINOs, DINOs, PLINOs, and Blue-Dogs, oh my… The Political Zoo - what/who are they?
+Any “D” (CINO/PLINO) - How electing ANY Democrat empowers the antithesis of Conservativism, the Ultra-Far-Left Progressive/Socialist/Democrats

By: pharos

pharos — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:14:16 +0000

I saw the “Blue Dog” Democrats being paraded on TV like they are the fiscally sane heroes the American people need to save them from these legislative atrocities. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think they are a media-safe fallback for the Democratic machine to push forward to give the Dems credibility when the polls turn against them.. Isn’t it common knowledge that the whole “Blue Dog” candidate was created during the last few election cycles to appeal to provide a “moderate” Democrat alternative in “Red’ areas that might be susceptible to malaise to Bush’s version of ‘conservatism’?

They’ll vote as their told when the final “trimmed-down” version appears - you can count on it.

I hate to play the cynic, but when Republican Congressmen vote for TARP and the stimulus despite overwhelming constituent opposition, why think the Democrats will take such a bold move?

By: amigag

amigag — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:00:55 +0000

This has happened before. Is there anything John Boehner and our side can
do, other than voting no?
I know the “Blue Dogs” can not be counted on, but there were 44 no votes
on the Cap & Trade bill. I’ve been trying to figure out why they did that; whether
that’s how their districts wanted them to vote? Or did they calculate that the
Senate vote not pass & they would be safe?

Also I wonder if these same 44 no votes on Cap & Trade will translate to the
Health Care bill.

What would happen if all of the Republicans just walked out?
Sorry, for so many questions.
I have been faxing & calling for 2 days, but skipped over the 44 no vote Reps & concentrated on others.