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So, what’s the most offensive part of this missile defense cave?

I’m having difficulty working it out.  Is it because:

…or should I just embrace the healing power of ‘and?’

Moe Lane

COMMENTS

  • khayos

    Costs far outweigh benefits

  • http://UnitedConservativesofVirginia Cargosquid

    VIENNA (AP) – Experts at the world’s top atomic watchdog are in agreement that Tehran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb and is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead, according to a secret report seen by The Associated Press.

  • http://online.logcabin.org/about/ suzieQ

    and the Joint Chiefs are going along with this.

  • http://www.brusbits.blogspot.com twobeers

    that the most offensive part of this missile defense cave is your obvious racism.

  • http://www.brusbits.blogspot.com twobeers

    I am being sarcastic. Just in case you couldn’t tell.

  • glorybee

    The actions of the Administration are incomprehensible unless one comes to the realization that it (liberal fascists) WANT America to fail in order to declare absolute power.

  • paulincolo

    1. He actually believes the claptrap of we want the world to think of the US as a friendly, non-interventionist nation, unlike that evil G.W. Bush (reset)

    and/or

    2. He wants to be friends with the marxist, commie, socialist and islamo-fascist governments and not our former democratic allies.

  • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

    …then this makes perfect sense.

    Especially if you believe American Exceptionalism is imperialism and exploitation, if you believe that our founding fathers were racists and our documents are a barrier to a new world utopia and that freedom and market economics causes poverty and injustice, that laws and Constitutional jurisprudence prevent the state from its rightful control of people’s lives – then anything that removes the U.S. from effectively impacting other nation’s governance is to be promoted.

    Is there anything in the track record of our President and his key appointees that indicates their disagreement with the above sentiments? I don’t see any…

  • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

    Why can’t I see these title typos before I publish.

    Comment preview would sure be appreciated,

  • Crowe

    ….as Mel Brooks said, “It’s good to be the king.”

    Think about it from O’s perspective. He was elected to be king, right? I mean “I won,” and all… And ever since his one free cheap shot to the jaw of the American people he’s had to deal with the cold reality of governance in a center-right country (that is, admittedly, prone to adolescent fits and distraction by shiny objects). This was just another “I can do this all by myself and I don’t need to ask anyone’s permission. So there. Pththththththththbt!

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    The Surrender Doctrine in full force/effect….

    None of any of what Obama and the Obamunists are doing wasn’t predictable and easy to see coming (to have heard from their own mouths) to those even remotely paying attention. There was/is simply ZERO excuses anyone has to have voted for this intentionally AND MAKE NO MISTAKE IF YOU VOTED DEMOCRAT AT ALL YOU DO SO KNOWINGLY – feigning ignorance isn’t going to cut it anymore!!!!

    Is the next TEApeats going to be Thanksgiving?!?!? So we can both give Thanks for the things that make this country great and demand we not allow Liberals to further erode them?!?!?

    Plan to attend a TEApeat Thanksgiving, next Tax Day and 4th of July 2010, etc…

    Contact the other sites and urge them to organize for the subsequent dates also:
    Tea Party Revolution site
    Tea Party Patriots
    FreedomWorks
    Alliance Defense Fund
    archive:
    Organize an UNOFFICIAL non-permit TEApeat (info)
    Congress – Here’s Your Sign, TEApeat: 912
    09/12/09 DC Tax Protest
    Tea Party Express
    RS: Tax Day TEApeat Open Thread
    ReTeaParty (for 4th of July) site
    Tax Day Tea Party site (w/ Daily email update option)
    Tea Party Convention (June 13, 2009)
    Atlanta Tea Party

  • http://www.nighttwister.com NightTwister

    They told me if I voted for John McCain there would be a number of foreign policy blunders, and they were right!.

  • mikefisk

    …of the raised middle finger, the more I hear of these sorts of posturings by the Obama administration.

    Sadly, at the rate it’s going, I may as well just leave both up on a semi-permanent basis.

  • http://UnitedConservativesofVirginia Cargosquid

    say this:

    “Of course we?ll help you with that Iranian problem?..We?ll get them to put away the nukes. We?ve only invested millions in helping them develop nuclear power?.Don?t worry about it. The check is in the mail. And we have a bridge to sell you. I promise not to c?”

    You get the idea.

    So, Obama called them up like a unfaithful girlfriend and said, “Honey, I think we should start seeing other people. Its not you. Its me?..”

    He?s doing this WITHOUT Russian guarantees of sanctions against Iran. He?s HOPING that Russia will CHANGE its mind about helping the US.

    Kinda of like an insecure girl putting out just so the quarterback will date her.

    Too bad they trusted us. I wonder why we have such a poor reputation among allies??

  • jodetoad

    It has just been demonstrated that anybody who thinks they can count on the US as an ally is an idiot.

    The libs worry about whether the world ‘likes us’. But this provides evidence that the world can’t trust us. Any administration is free to ignore alliances or relationships they don’t care for, so international relationships are only good for maybe 4 years. Maybe.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

  • AKSteveB

    at a time when everyone is concentrating on domestic stuff. Gotta hand it to Art, more and more this looks like genuine long planned subversion, rather than just incompetence. I’m sick.

  • Achance

    http://www.redstate.com/martin_a_knight/2009/09/14/matthew-manweller-democratic-plant/#comment-1397

    Sometimes, I really hate to be right. AC

  • Ausonius

    In Big Brobama’s twisted Orwellian logic dictators bring peace and freedom. Democracy and liberty are slavery: so good-bye Eastern European republics, hello Putin’s KGB kleptocracy!

    As I have fumed under other related topics today, when the U.S. fails at home and abroad, then Big Brobama has succeeded.

    As bad as everything has been about the Hell-th Care Plan and the Porkulus and the Cap and Tax Plan, those were all domestic things which could be stalled or undone -albeit with great difficulty – in the years ahead. This has told every large and small dictator on the planet that their promises will be swallowed in exchange for our disarmament.

    And at least partial responsibility for this should be the albatross hung around John McCain’s neck for his weak and ultimately idiotic campaign last year.

    Rush today played tapes of NObama ten years proclaiming his racist socialist propaganda: where was the McCain campaign on that? NObama ABSOLUTELY should have been directly hit about Ayers, Wright, etc etc etc.!!! The YouTube video above about canceling weapons programs ABSOLUTELY should have been used by the McCain campaign against this crypto-Communist pacifist.

    His books should have been plumbed for all the anti-American statements, and they should have been broadcast as often as possible.

    Instead, most of the McCain ads were pathetic.

    And now we and the rest of the world reap the whirlwind of stupidity that swirled around the Republicans connected to those decisions not “to attack Obama personally.”

  • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth
  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    NT

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    to try to recruit precinct committeemen.

    I’m trying to look on the bright side — Obama’s further implementation of his Surrender Doctrine should help me better make the case why these guys and gals need to become PCs.

    Thank you.

    ColdWarrior

  • cclive

    Both Poland and the Czech Republic never had their legislature ratify the agreements and instead decided to wait til after the 08 election. They kept dragging their feet. So no binding formal agreement took place.

  • http://www.leadingstrategies.net Mike Friesen

    This post would be hilarious if it wasn’t so true AND sad. I’m with you Moe; I can’t decide which is more offensive so I will take them all!

  • Aaron Gardner

    Seriously…why are you always providing cover for Obama?

  • http://www.scottbomb.com scottbomb

    Absolutely incompetent foreign policy will cause even more losses for the Obamessiah.

    Iran sees a wuss in the Oval Office. So does the Taliban. China and Russia snicker.

    Israel, brace yourselves. You’re on your own this time. We’ll be praying for you.

  • vettepilot
  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    I certainly don’t wish any harm on anyone so I don’t want anyone taking this the wrong way, but I wonder what the Lefty-loons would have us do if something were to have happened to better half of the ObamaBinBiden un-dynamic duo while he was there?!?!? Probably would’ve used it as yet another “convenient” pile on for WITHDRAWEL IN DEFEAT IMMEDIATELY rather than outrage and demands to hunt the folks that would’ve done it down. Full fledged Surrender Doctrine!

  • http://applescorneroftheorchard.blogspot.com/ Pomme

    The “They told me if I voted for John McCain….” stuff will not ever get old!

    It pleases me, carry on!

  • cclive

    They had the opportunity under Bush to get this thing solidified and underway and they decided not to. They specifically decide to wait til after the election and run the risk of a new President changing things and thats exactly what they got. I’m not giving any cover to Obama, I’m holding them responsible for their own actions. Period.

    Now do you actually have a relevant comment?

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    Do they think they are safe there? If they hide with their head buried in Primetime TV it will somehow all pass by them?

    All questions to prod them with…. especially in this increased full-court press of Liberals misuse Religion for Liberal Govt. expansion (Thx for that reco, btw) and attempts to Separate folks from Church to State and as they are laying on with everything being some “Moral imperative”…. Morals? From Godless (just go to Church [Rev. Wright] for show) Democrats?!?!?

    God Bless my friend and Good Luck… we need many, many, many, recruits to ensure we pull the Republican Party back where it belongs and can/will keep it there!!!

    It is woeful that some have worked for decades while others sat around and did nothing. It is time they get off the couch and step up!

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

    to trust us, the one rulled by the Chavezs, Castros, Putins, and so on. Traditional allies be damned. Unfortunately, it’s all part of the plan, as AChance pointed out in his latest. See the top of the recommended diaries list for that.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Never have you laid any blame on Obama. And now that his direct action had a direct result on allies of the U.S. you refuse to acknowledge it and instead blame the Polish and Czechs.

    I will be 100% clear here….this is not the fault of the Polish or the Czechs. For you to automatically blame them is to provide cover for Obama.

    You should quit that.

  • Ausonius

    on NObama’s insipidly arrogant nose.

    While it might be nice to contemplate continued losses in polls for him, worse is the mess he has just created by giving a blank check to Iran, Russia, Al-Qaeda.

    Accompanying this was the decision NOT to decide anything in Afghanistan yesterday!

    What will the MSM do with this story? Parrot the party line: we are now actually SAFER because we are not annoying the Dictator Putin and the Dictator Ahmedinejad.

    As I wrote elsewhere, good-bye Taiwan as the Chinese just picked up the OK signal from the Wuss House for a take-over.

  • http://www.redstate.com/tnjim TNJim

    In AChance’s article he talks about the shadow government as applied domestically, but I think the same principles are being used to reshape forign policy as well. Chime in, Art, if I am misinterpreting anything here.

  • furious

    You f*cked up, you trusted us.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    That’s a fact. Fine-point it all you want. I don’t know what point you’re trying to make, other than “screw them”.

  • cclive

    “That agreement, along with a Status of Forces Agreement governing the presence of US troops in Poland, must now be ratified by the Polish Parliament. To date those agreements have yet to be debated, with ratification now uncertain before the end of 2008. The Speaker of the Polish Parliament, Bronislaw Komorowski, has commented that a vote would not be rushed and that ?it would be worth knowing if the election result in the US would have an influence on the US attitude towards this program?

    http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/briefings/snia-04378.pdf

    “Under President George W. Bush, the White House had pushed to complete negotiations with Poland and the Czech Republic ahead of Tuesday’s presidential election.

    Sikorski said Obama had told him some two months ahead of his election victory that he had concerns over the system’s effectiveness and whether it was not directed against Russia, which condemns it as a threat to its security.”

    http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSTRE4A464O20081105

    Again they get what they deserve for their delay.

  • Just_Saying

    Wouldn’t you think the Secretary of State would have some input — or, at least, have something to say when the US dumps its long-term allies?
    .

  • http://online.logcabin.org/about/ suzieQ

    Obama will say he was just following the advice of SECDEF Gates and the Joint Chiefs Of Staff. He will say it was their recommendation.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    (1) They answer to Obama
    (2) No guts or moral courage
    (3)They answer to Obama

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Go elsewhere to shill for Obama’s disgusting collaboration with dictators.

    Or go read a book on Molotov-Ribbentrop, I don’t care.

  • furious

    …bad enough for the Czechs, Poles, and Hungarians, although at least they share borders with civilized nations.

    How’d you like to be a Lithuanian, Latvian, or Estonian?

  • Aaron Gardner

    good to know. And I must also assume that you will be fine if they get nuked or invaded again…after all they are just getting what they deserve.

    With allies like you who needs enemies.

    I made my point clearly, it’s relevancy is that you are claiming to be a republican on a republican site who consistently provides cover for the Obama admins many follies.

  • furious

    …shark — at least Jiimmuh boycotted the 1980 Olympics, and made other pointless, futile gestures protesting the Russkies’ Afghan adventure.

  • E Pluribus Unum

    The fact that the governing morons were busy diddling themselves when they should have been looking after their citizens’ best interests is not relevant to the post.

    Obama et al sold out two countries that have been staunch allies. That is the contention Moe made, and nothing you say remotely counters that.

  • Tbone

    he is probably an accomplished butt kissing politician rather than a military professional. (See Colin Powell)

  • http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C

    Polish PM Won’t Take Hillary’s 3 AM Phone Call

    Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk confirmed today that he declined last night to take a call from the U.S. informing him of the decision to scrap planned missile-defense bases in his country.

    Two U.S.-based sources close to the Polish government said Thursday that Tusk also rejected a call from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ? on the grounds that, as the head of the government, he should speak to the president.

    “Hillary called ? and the reason he turned it down was because of protocol,” said a source.

  • Jack_Savage

    Obama’s backstabbing of Eastern Europe is THEIR fault in this little alternate universe that has become the U.S.

    Both cclive and Obama aren’t doing real well keeping undercover.

  • http://hillbillypolitics.com Steph C

    his actions make perfect sense. He only bullies people he’s assured of being able to control without reprisal.

  • Jack_Savage

    Taking a bullying, thuggish stand against someone who would have been your friend.

  • Tbone

    Just thought I’ld beat the MSM to it.

  • DONTREADONME
  • farstar99

    “Obama’s a wimp.”

    Why not? They did it to GHWB.

  • 4life

    local Teapeats sound good, but I wouldn’t count on a repeat of the DC tea party three times in the coming year. I would wait for a DC Teapeat until 9/12/10. That will be a perfect visible pre-election stand. I see next year’s being even bigger. From someone who flew in for the DC Tea Party I would absolutely recommend it, but realistically I could not afford to do that more than once in a year. I would go to a local one on tax day and maybe on the 4th, depending on family obligations. You will not get as many people taking overnight busses if it is done too often. So, I vote for local or state parties for the other dates and another big DC event on 9/12/2010.

  • ranthony
  • ranthony

    And may the DAILY DOUBLE bird lay droppings on Obama’s head.

  • penguin2

    does not surprise me. No one should be surprised by this move. Remember Obama’s initial blunder last year, when he had an initial wrong and then weak response regarding Russia’s invasion of Georgia?

    Whenever he had been pressed on the continuance of the proposed Missile Defense plan, he sounded weak. Before he won the election, he was soft pedaling his so-called support. This has been part of his agenda all along. There is nothing to stop him. I am only angry that he is betraying long-time allies, who have respected and trusted us. America is now betraying that trust.

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    given the History of Democrats Surrender Doctrine (Democrats ALWAYS cut/weaken U.S.Defense) what could go wrong?

  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    glad you 5′d it, I added Jacks to my list of Quotes (using one liners to get people to think (one-liner quotes/jabs) and more here (in PSS))

    Good one Jack

  • DONTREADONME
  • http://www.ssce.net/Web-Articles/Web-articles-indexed-authors.html#authors-l JLenardDetroit

    rolled over faster than a Blue-Pavlov-Dog Democrat

  • Jack_Savage

    I’m flattered to be included.

  • Jack_Savage

    Pretty soon that will look like a good option.

  • Scope

    He only wanted to win against Bush in 2000. McCain has been around forever, unfortunately. He has won re-election after re-election after re-election. Hell he’s 100 years old, and, has been in the Senate for most of those years. If he didn’t learn how to run an election campaign after 2000, and, after all those re-election campaigns in Arizona, he is/was fooling us all. He preferred that Obama, a Democrat, take us in the direction that he really desires. He just didn’t want to be the architect of the US demise. Remember, after his release from the Viet Nam prison, he came home, divorced his wife, found a new corporate gazillionare cutie, was a Democrat, but, was advised to become a Republican if he wanted to win the seat in Arizona. From reports, he “almost” switched to the Democrat party after the 2000 election. I wish he would have done his Specter then.

  • azred

    He’d defend them:

    Flashback: Obama Pledges Missile Defense Against Iran In April
    RealClearPolitics:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/09/17/flashback_obama_pledges_missile_defense_against_iran_in_april.html

    Again – he lied.

  • Rusty_S

    When I saw the title, I thought you were asking about the place Osama Bin Laden is living…

  • Ausonius

    under other topics.

    You are quite right, and the evidence is there: either consciously or subconsciously, McCain did not want to win.

    What is unconscionable are the Republican operatives who supported the losing decisions. They should be marked and never allowed near a campaign again!

  • redneck_hippie

    worst regimes in the world because they share his belief in collectivism, socialism and tyrrany.

  • http://www.theprecinctproject.wordpress.com ColdWarrior

    nt

  • Repair_Man_Jack

    I cringe to think what he’ll go and do on May Day.

  • paulincolo

    from the most from O’s total lack of integrity and high amount of corruption.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-helps-strengthen-General-Electric-Putin-ties-59644627.html

  • http://www.the41stvote.org rcov092

    sandwich like a good soldier. Since he is a company man, he tried his best. However, I do not for minute he believed any of what he said.

  • Ben White

    Yeah, the title could be better.

    I was thinking

    Missile cave? Is that what she’s calling it now?

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

    Obama always uses the fact that we put a man on the moon as proof that we can do anything in advocating developing green technology as a cheap and effective alternative energy source. He and his fellow liberals, however, have always scoffed at the Ronald Reagan’s vision that we can shoot down an enemy missile, and cut us off from even making the attempt.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    The invasion of Poland anniversary thing just set me off.

  • IJB

    The best part? Obama is laying all the groundwork for his own downfall. Just like Carter. I can hardly wait…

  • The_Gadfly
  • Karina

    “In a sign of shifting plans for missile defence, the US last week notified Congress of a potential $7.8bn sale of Patriot missiles to Turkey, which borders Iran.”

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/2b1c62c0-a367-11de-a435-00144feabdc0.html

    Well, I guess we can use the money for the new Green Schools Czar. Or the Acorn Defense Fund.

    And this is how Obama is keeping America safe? By selling our arms to relatively unstable countries who have shown a tendency to buckle under Russia’s influence? Where will these missiles end up? Fired on our own troops in Afghanistan? Threatened against Greek Cyprus? Unleashed on Georgia, Poland, and the other former Eastern Bloc countries for oil pipeline rights?

  • The_Gadfly

    and opted to avoid the Major B-slap in favor of only having to deal with the Minor B-slap. The Big 0 would have used the same lame reasoning to pull out of the deal even if it had been approved by them.

  • The_Gadfly

    Moe did you notice this bit in your link?

    After what he called a “comprehensive assessment of our missile defense program in Europe, the president said he “approved the unanimous recommendations of my secretary of defense and my Joint Chiefs of Staff” to go forward with the new system, which the administration says will be made up of increasingly-capable land- and sea-based missile interceptors, primarily upgraded versions of the Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) and a range of censors in Europe. [bolding mine, rest of the problems are all in the original]

  • Rusty_S

    Hopefully the thought of Osama holed up in his missile defense cave will take the edge off a little. Although I hate to think what the most offensive part of that place must be…

  • Paul_In_Houston

    … I posted this comment on many blogs…

    On Election Day, the Ace of Spades website posted a picture of two Iraqi women, with purple-stained fingers showing they had voted in an election.

    It was a “Get Out The Vote” message, noting that whatever inconveniences YOU may experience by voting, “These women literally risked their lives to vote“.

    My first reaction was, “And THE ONE can hardly wait to sell them out”.

    Obama?s rhetoric on Iraq, and comments about Israel, showed a casual willingness to sell out allies when convenient.

    A commenter asked, ?Who appointed us to be their guardians? Why is it America?s job to make sure they are safe??

    Perhaps we’d rather not have the entire world as a nuclear-armed camp, figuring that the more countries with these things, the more risk that some will eventually be used.

    Our alliances with these countries ain?t out of the goodness of our heart, but for our own best interests. Sell one out, and I?ll bet you the others will sure take notice.

    The commenter seemed to be saying, ?To hell with them; let them take care of themselves!?

    Ok! But, they might do exactly that, and we might be less than thrilled with the results.

    If countries under threat (Taiwan, South Korea, Japan) think that our word is no longer any good, they?ll almost certainly feel the need for nuclear arms as the only real deterrent to someone like China. And note, those countries ALL have the necessary economic, industrial and technical wherewithal to go nuclear. All they need do is make the decision.

    Others, in the Middle East, will want them to deter Iran. How about Saudi Arabia and Egypt? Maybe Libya decides that abandoning their efforts was a mistake. THOSE countries may lack the technology, but they can certainly afford to finance it.

    It could just go on and on.

    THAT could be a very likely consequence of us deciding to just disengage ourselves from these countries.

    We?ve tried, for a long time, to convince others that they didn?t need them, because WE would provide the nuclear umbrella.

    When they figure they can?t count on us, the whole thing unravels.

    If the commenter gets his wish, and they DO take care of themselves, it could get real interesting for us as well.

    As we also reside on the same planet, I think it almost impossible we would remain unaffected.

    So, standing up for our allies is not just a nice thing to do; it makes the hardest kind of common sense.

    Simply put, we protect others in order to protect ourselves.

    Abandoning them, selling them out, would be an unbelievably short-sighted (as in STUPID) thing to do, and would hurt us more in the long run. No one would trust an agreement with us; and why should they, given such a record?

    Instead of being worth a damn, our word would only be noise.

    And that would be tragic, because WE set its’ value, by our actions.

    Sadly, I see nothing in that comment that needs amending.

    :(

  • http://beaglescout.wordpress.com LJ “Beaglescout” Miller

    Medvedev is visiting Chavez in Venezuela to discuss Russia’s nuclear and ballistic technology assistance to the Chavez regime.

    And in the meantime, GE is heading to Russia to negotiate for business that so far has not been available to it. Follow the money?