Moe…
Thanks for all the hard work you do here!
Mark

we’ll make it…. Everywhere

It’s up to you … CON…. SERV…. A….TIVES……

Go Hoffman! Go!

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provisional ballots are subject to some court order (on Hannity, during interview w/ Hoffman).

for all your hard work and for making it easy for us to follow the results. You guys are the best !

Politico’s front page had results
http://www.politico.com/
Remember to refresh. Once #’s start trickling in, they will have a map

Probably still close enough to win at the end of the day and (potentially) lose in court.

http://watertowndailytimes.com/

And…

http://www.redstate.com/hooah_mac/2009/11/03/boots-on-ground-in-ny-23-part-2/

for taking care of business and working hard. The nest one on the list is to get rid of cluckie schummmmm mmmmmer in 2010 along with reid in Nevada

http://elections.nytimes.com/2009/results/upstate.html

with less than 1% 51 - 45 the bad guy.

Upstate backlash against Hoffman and some sympathy vote from some of the Good Gummint Dede Republicans after Rush stupidly opened his mouth yesterday and “insulted” Dede before the election, thus putting Hoffman in a tight corner.

Jesus, Rush, let our guys win, okay. We know that Dede absconded with 900 grand. That’s not the point.

Just win, baby! Then you can insult Dede all you want.

Hang on though, still a very small report percentage…

Pass it along…
Thanks,
Mark

Lessor of two evils…

http://bit.ly/4BRoQI

More numbers are coming in and it doesn’t look good.

Even if Hoffman doesn’t win, he still has the boots on the ground to make a good run of it just a year from now. I wish I could do more, but I will be helping Marco Rubio win then!

these early returns that show the Dem up about 10 points are coming from?

With 8% of the vote in, I could use some good news.

This is the real winner.

I suspect a number of Blue Dogs will stop dragging their feet resisting it. Which will likely improve their individual 2010 elections prospects. But the key is that the Healthcare monstrocity must not pass.

They had him checked earlier, but DEM Thompson now within 1%

This is a county that Obama won but the previous congressman won. I would like to be seeing a stronger showing there.

8% deficit so far…. really?? I don’t get it….thought Hoffman would be doing better so far, where are the votes coming in from??

They just announced on the radio that Owens has won NY-23

but Owens has widened the lead a point and it does not look good.

What of the “scanner” problems in St. Lawrence County?

I smell a rat…

Okay, it’s after 10pm EDT and my man Hoffman is losing. I rather lose the NJ race than this one. I pray this does NOT hold!

Tea Party Supporter!!!!!

He had TWO weeks to get up and running with money and boots on the ground because the GOP went with a liberal. This BATTLE was ALWAYS about a message to the GOP! If they had backed him instead of the LEFTIST in the beginning then he would have WON hands down! They had BETTER listen to this warning shot from the BASE!

Whoever has his enemy at his mercy &
does not destroy him is his own enemy

The winner is probably going to get announced tomorrow.

really behind in technology. Whats up with the numbers? there is no offical state web site to get the data.

Politico has the race tightening.
49.7
45.2

Being able to buck the rino and still run a tight race is something to be proud of. Keep the energy flowing , there are more battles to come.

Owens: 49.8%
Hoffman: 45.1%
Scozzafava: 5.1%

4.7% different, that’s about 2,000 votes…

REJECT SAME-SEX MARRIAGE LAW
Yes 83514 50.06%
No 83299 49.94%

This is with 31% of precints reporting. Turnout is reported at 84% statewide.

Owens’ lead down to 2,000 votes:

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091103/NEWS09/911039947

“The Plattsburgh attorney has 34,987 votes compared to Conservative Doug Hoffman, a Lake Placid CPA, with 32,036 votes.

Dede Scozzafava, a Republican who dropped out of the race Saturday, has 3,960 votes.

Owens now leads in Jefferson, St. Lawarence, Franklin, Clinton and Essex counties.

Hoffman leads in Oswego, Oneida and Madison counties.”

VA swung wildly in my county (prince william county) towards conservative principles even the Democrats were running as conservatives (tax cuts, jobs, economic conditions favorable to businesses); however, that said the hill we chose to die on in NY-23 is OK if we lose it, remember, the only thing some people will know when they go to the poll is D and R and the conservative party tends to scream 3rd party lunatic. A R by Hoffmans name might have helped, but the message was sent to the GOP, regardless of a deep blue states depressed economic areas of upstate NY. Remember NY is no different than Michigan, the upstate economic conditions are very horrific compared to conservative VA.

Anyway, I may have to definitely concede that my view of what’s right for America is no longer acceptable to places in this country with a dependent and impoverished electorate; therefore, I may have to conceded that states as depressed and as blue as NY need a slow return to conservative principles then a hard right turn. Darn-it, I wish I didn’t have to make this possible concession, but you know what sometimes I am wrong and I can admit it; however that does not mean that I can concede my principles by supporting a pro-choice candidate with donations and volunteering my time for a campaign.

Owens: 49.1%
Hoffman: 45.5%
Scozzafava: 5.1%

3.6% separating Hoffman from a win–looking a little better. But still about 2000 votes.

Owens: 48.8%
Hoffman: 45.9%
Scozzafava: 5.1%

2.9% separating Hoffman from a win

286 of 606 Precincts Reporting - 47%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Owens, Bill Dem 35,653 49%
Hoffman, Doug Con 33,032 45%
Scozzafava, Dede GOP 3,982 5%

http://breakingnews.nydailynews.com/dynamic/files/elections/2009/by_state/NY_US_House_1103.html?SITE=NYNYD&SECTION=POLITICS

It’s not over yet, but I don’t like what I see.

Hoffman’s doing good for someone who lives outside of the district, but I think a lot of independents there are a little irked at national pundits and others telling them how to do things.

Owens: 49.3%
Hoffman: 45.5%
Scozzafava: 5.3%

3.8% against Hoffman now. Wrong way.

There is still votes to be counted and information I’m hearing suggests this isn’t over.

We’ve rid ourselves of another RINO. Forever. That’s always a good thing.

Owens: 49.3%
Hoffman: 45.5%
Scozzafava: 5.3%

still 3.8% against Hoffman.

Hoffman may lose because the Republican candidate-Dede “screw you if I can’t have my way” Scuza-whatever flew home to the left and took thousands of votes with her. Had she been a real Republican, one with some kind of morals, she would have taken this one for the team.

She showed colors and THAT message is the one you who think there is no such things as a tent too big.

I guess a lot of us fear that if we lose the 23rd race, the RINO’s will say see ” a real conservative can’t win” . That’s why I sent a donation
to Hoffman’s campaign. I want Hoffman to badly, I want to send a good man to Congress and send a message to the Newt’s of Party.
I guess I’m staying up all night or as long as we have any hope.

….but if he doesn’t pull this one out, I think that his chances are good for winning in a re-match next year as the rightful Republican nominee without that liberal beyotch getting in his way.

Plus, who knows, maybe Scozzafava will mount a left-wing challenge to Owens for the Democratic nomination next year.

As it stands now, Owens is winning with 49% & Hoffan has 46%. That liberal RINO beastophile has 5%.

It went McCain 55/45. The vote spread for McCain was 2,390. Let’s hope R turnout was super strong there.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2009/by_county/NY_US_House_1103.html?SITE=NYSAR&SECTION=POLITICS

breakdown by county, with number of precincts reporting…

For the GOP, this election is a message that primaries are the better way to picking all candidates. No backroom deals.

For the national republican organizations, NRCC, RNC, et al…keep your nose out of local primaries. Wait until the general election.

Owens: 49.1%
Hoffman: 45.5%
Scozzafava: 5.4%

still 3.6% against Hoffman. But the vote total is greater. Abotu 3500 votes behind Owens now.

I can hardly stand to think if we lose we get another vote for Pelosi !!
I’m going to my pray closet. Who knows it’s not over just yet.

50.5% to 46.1%

I wouldn’t call it a Republican win though

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2009/by_county/NY_US_House_1103.html?SITE=NYSAR&SECTION=POLITICS

(H/T: RCP Election Blog)

He trying to gloat about something, but admits we got Oswego.

http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/article/20091103/NEWS09/911039947

431 of 606 Precincts Reporting - 71%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Owens, Bill Dem 50,712 49%
Hoffman, Doug Con 46,746 45%
Scozzafava, Dede GOP 5,898 6%

or early voting in New York? If so, I wonder how many of those Scozzafava votes tonight might be from early ballots sent out to voters by the NRCC pushing Scozzafava. So far, her voters are making the difference.

Okay, Saint Lawrence is reporting only 41 of 102 precincts, Lewis only 9 of 31, but Jefferson is almost all counted (85 of 91). That’s Scozzafava’s territory–heavily Republican, but moderate-liberal Republican.

Jefferson is 49/46% for Owens, Saint Lawrence 55/40% and Lewis is so far Hoffman 49/45%. All three of those should be Republican and that is why Hoffman is in trouble. Scozzafava votes are going Dem in two of the three counties.

It about whoever gets their voted in. I’m going to assume Owens got soe metro voted in early. I’m going to assume that Hoffman needs some outskirt, country votes to put him over.

…. time … I hope … is on Hoffman’s side.

We all are a bit tarred of hearin’ how this is a ‘Publican win.

This is a CONSERVATIVE win, y’all. Or, “you all”, as I was taught growing up in D. C.

Newt Gingrich was no help to the cause of the People. The People of Virginia and New Jersey (the People of the United States of America) have spoken.

Youall can just stop spending our money now.

just noticed on a link someone posted earlier that “run off” is on the list of options for winners.

Oswego, Oneida and Madison counties are the Syracuse metro area. Hoffman spent a lot of money advertising in that area–and Scozzafava doesn’t have a base there.

Oswego (74 of 124 precincts) has Hoffman up 50% to Owens’ 43%. Oneida with 19 of 22 precincts in is Hoffman 58% to Owens 42%. And Madison with 52 of 55 precincts reporting as Hoffman up 58 to 46%.

Lewis still has only 9 of 31 precincts reporting, and is the only Scozzafava stronghold that is going for Hoffman (49-45%).

the message to the GOP from the NY-23 is that conservatives would rather walk away form a seat than have a liberal Republican candidate. The GOP picked the wrong person and supported her with millions of dollars. Doug Hoffman, a regular everyday man, ran a sucessful national campaign against both the Democrats and the Republicans. This seat is only good for 1 year. The GOP better have learned a lesson or 2010 won’t work out the way they hope.

D 48.9
R 45.6

Hoffman is the better pick. Gop blew it with us, and we cannot forgive them for this.
Alaska Mark

Owens: 48.9%
Hoffman: 45.6%
Scozzafava: 5.4%

still 3.3% against Hoffman. Right way, but not enough.

The fact that Politico hasn’t called it yet must mean that it is mathematically possible for Hoffman to pull this out yet, but the numbers will have to change soon for that to happen.

wrong direction.

D 49
R 45.6

…between Owens and Hoffman, with about 78% of the vote counted.

Owens: 49.0%
Hoffman: 45.6%
Scozzafava: 5.4%

… has the same problem as the national Republican apparatus, namely that they thought they knew better than the voters who fund and support R candidates.

It was the local Republican leaders that chose Scozzafava behind closed doors in the first place. What does that say about their “leadership?”

NY 23 has voted Republican for damn near 150 years. That should speak volumes to everyone in the Republican leadership. If Hoffman loses NY 23, it won’t be because he was too conservative, it will be because local and national party leaders were stupid!

How could they have ever thought that Scozzafava would win here? The Democratic candidate was pot-shotting her for being a tax-and-spender! Her and her husband are BIG in the local unions.

Even though NY is very liberal, upstate NY (read: a large chunk of NY 23) is no where near as liberal as down state (read: the NY city to Albany corridor), and indeed is still very conservative in a lot of ways.

NY 23 is a local mirror to a national problem; namely, Republican leadership that does not stand on its own platform. Reagan said that conservatism is a three legged stool, but around here lately is it seems like our local Republican leaders don’t have a leg to stand on. It doesn’t help when the NRCC and the RNC jump in with both feet and back a candidate that is MORE liberal than the Dem she is running against! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Any conservative that ran here could beat the pants off the Dem candidate if they were any comibination of: fiscally conservative, socially conservative, or a defense hawk. So, a social liberal but strong on defense and the econonmy? Win! Weak on defense but strong on the economy and social issues? Win! Strong on defense and social issues, but weak on the economy? Win!

Our former Rep., John McHugh (R) won his last election with 65% or so of the vote, for goodness sake! He was reelected 8 times, and ran unopposed in 2002 for goodness sake!

So what did the geniuses around here in the local party do? Choose a candidate that was not conservative in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM! Good going guys.

And then the dimwits in the national party got on board.

Sigh.

If NY 23 goes to Owens, it has everything to do with failed party leadership, across the board, and nothing else.

It takes Republican “leadership” to lose a long-held Republican seat like NY 23.

The damn fools.

Watertown is reporting 57050 for Owens and 54538 for Hoffman.

Saratogan is reporting 58483 for Owens and 54088 for Hoffman.

That can’t be just a discrepancy in time; that’s more votes for Owens and less votes for Hoffman.

Hoffman is a quiet man who made national news. He will have time to build a base over the next two years.

One loss here means nothing to Pelosi’s power. The message to the Blue dogs is clear. A man with no backing from the national Republican establishment garnered 45% of the vote AFTER the losing Rep told her people to vote for the Dem who can’t break 50% in a liberal area.

That’s the message.

I would ask this Scuzzy lady for the money back that was spent on her
this would make her squirm

to throw money to her and have her push for the Dem, obviously a Rep in name only

Owens

Politico is holding back.

GOP establishment to blame. nothing else.

….at least that’s what the headline will be should FOX’s projection hold true. Strange than CNN hasn’t called it yet.

How about we take back the R party before we dilute the conservative vote.
Didn’t the Bull Moose give us Wilson? Didn’t Perot give us Clinton?

ColdWarrior is 100% right, take back the apparatus before reinventing the wheel.

In a nutshell:

Clinton and St. Lawrence counties account for about 30% of the vote in NY-23. Clilnton is Owens home county, so no surprise they went for him heavily. 56% Owens - 40% for Hoffman. St. Lawrence (where Scozzafava lives) is going 55% - 40% for Owens with about half the precincts counted. Obama won both those counties with margins of 23% and 17% respectively.

Jefferson county leans Republican, and about 15% of the voters in the district live there. Jefferson went 49%-46% for Owens. McCain won Jefferson by 5% in 2008–so Hoffman losing here was a death-blow.

Madison and Oswego counties make up about another 30% of the vote. Madison and Oswego are both going 48% for Hoffman to 46% for Owens–which sounds good, but is too small a margin for that area. Both of these counties went for Bush in 2004 but switched and were Obama wins in 2008.

So, some bad news, some good news, but not at all what we wanted to hear. All politics is local, but this is going to be spun into national significance that will dwarf the GOP victories in NJ and VA.

for Owens with 88% reporting

12:05 a.m. WED 10/4: HOFFMAN EXPECTED TO CONCEDE IN STATEMENT. Will update . . .

if that is any help to all of you out there, that are a little dispirited that we didn’t not shalack this socialists to the curb.

Hoffman can/should run again.

(nt)

Think about it seriously, how will this all be spun tomorrow, seriously how? No. matter what had happened tonight, this would be spun for the country to hear on everything but Fox as the Taliban rising in the GOP party, or If Hoffman won tonight, we would be hearing about how there is no chance he will get re-elected, because the turnout was low and had this turned out like Zero’s election in the 2008 in the 2010 general. Hoffmans toast.

Seriously, folks pull the reigns right/write the narrative because we can just as well as any liberal journalist will do tomorrow sucking the teet of the AP.

It looks like Hoffman got a better percentage of the votes in NY-23 than the liberal Gov. Corzine running for re-election & spending millions of his own money in the process.