Eugene Robinson gets the name of the site right.


It’s actually been a matter of some amusement for us: you could tell who the lazy or just dumb reporters were from their habitual reference of this site as Redstate.org, which it hasn’t been for years.  Apparently, the Washington Post has gotten around to updating their files, bless their hearts.  A shame that Eugene Robinson didn’t then try to actually talk to a Republican before he wrote his column, although I admit that it would have been harder than sneering at the Republicans that live largely in his head.

Let’s unpack a typical paragraph:

Will loyal members inform on others for harboring suspiciously moderate views?

Err, no.

Will anyone judged guilty have to wear a sign saying “Republican In Name Only” as penance?

Err, no.

Will there be re-education camps?

Err, no.  Also: cheapening to the memory of victims in the tens of millions.

Will deviationists face the Enhanced Interrogation Technique of being forced to listen to the wit and wisdom of Glenn Beck, at ear-splitting volume, for days on end?

Err, no.

Eugene Robinson’s thesis, such as it is, is to try to claim that Republican defeats on Tuesday night were due to conservative meddling while the more numerous Republican successes were due to the forces of moderation who must stand against us awful, awful Tea Partiers*. While it’s fun to watch a writer from the Washington Bob McDonnell’s Thesis Post try to claim that the GOP’s sweep of Virginia was done despite the best efforts of conservatives, it doesn’t excuse his sloppy thinking.  Nor does it justify recasting principled conservative opposition to a candidate who wasn’t chosen in a primary, did not subscribe to basic conservative principles**, and who refused to show even the most basic loyalty to the Republican party in terms of being the first salvo in a GOP civil war.

I mean, I understand why he wants one.  It’s the Democrats’ only hope right now.

Moe Lane

*There’s also the usual Democratic obsession with former Alaskan governor Sarah Palin.

**Including the Don’t spend money that you don’t have, you idjits one.

Crossposted to Moe Lane.

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I agree with Robinson. McDonnell is moderate. And he won.

Rod_Patrick Saturday, November 7th at 8:29AM EST (link)

But WAPO said that he’s a right-wing extremist before he’s elected.

I agree with Robinson that “Robinson is a liar”.

Rod Patrick- What in your opinion makes

Scope Saturday, November 7th at 8:35AM EST (link)

McDonnell a moderate?

 

Rod Patrick- What in your opinion makes

Scope Saturday, November 7th at 8:35AM EST (link)

McDonnell a moderate?

When Hoffman lost in NY23, ObamaMedia said Moderates win and Conservatives lose in election.

Rod_Patrick Saturday, November 7th at 12:22PM EST (link)

So, 2-to-2 …

McDonnell must be a moderate … since he won.

He he he! Sorry for being an “idiot” (urgh!!!).

 
 
 

The Writer, Eugene Robinson, in Question Is.....

wolfgang Saturday, November 7th at 8:31AM EST (link)

…..engaged in a little psychologic activity referred to as projection. Isn’t that the reason MoveOn.org raised three mill to bludgeon any Democrat who didn’t vote for the healthcare bill into submission. What he’s actually referring to are typical Democrat activities, while also complaining about specks in Republican’s eyes, and failing to notice the planks embedded in the eyes of the Democrats.

Psychological projection

LJ "Beaglescout" Miller Saturday, November 7th at 3:24PM EST (link)

Projection is the modus operandi of almost all Democrat criticism of Republicans, as well as the other way around. Democrats reject Republicans for insufficient attention to interest group tribalism and Republicans reject Democrats for having no principles other than political power. They are both using their own categories to characterize the other. That is completely understandable. However, it does make the Democrats look (accurately) like power seeking psychopaths.

On the other hands, Republicans look like would-be philosophers of government, somewhat more theoretical than practical in orientation, and nothing sticks in a Democrat’s craw like the lurking suspicion that his party is the dumb party of ‘the haves.’

“Each of us has a natural right, from God, to defend his person, his liberty, and his property.”

–Frederic Bastiat
 
 

Glenn Beck has been useful

Scope Saturday, November 7th at 8:57AM EST (link)

in researching the most radical elements in the Obama administration, such as the Czars, and in factually repoting what he is finding. I doubt many would have the guts to stand up to Obama/Axelrod/Emmanuel thug machine, except of course Breitbart.

Beck, seemed to be attacking both parties but, concentrating on going after the radical Progressives. Going after corruption, Marxism/Communism, involving anyone should be fair game, but, I had wondered what his ulterior motive was. As of late, he has made statements indicating to me that he is pushing for a third party. Last night, on his show, his fill-in, Judge Napolitano outright asked if it is time for a third party. Was that a part of the show script even if Beck had been there, or was it Napolitano’s gig? If he does in fact go down that path, he will be insuring re-election for the very administration he is fighting against. He has gained alot of attention/influence with his 9/12 project, his support of the Tea Parties, and has woken many sleeping on the side, however, he is getting into an arena where he is playing with fire.

well then, maybe the Republican party should

kyle8 Saturday, November 7th at 8:42PM EST (link)

start acting more conservative and more principled, then maybe he wont got through the trouble of starting another party.

Every time I hear the party faithful lamenting third parties my advice is the same. Don’t suck so much and there will be no third parties.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

 
 

I wish the article was right

samdallas Saturday, November 7th at 9:05AM EST (link)

We need to do more of what we are accused of there– I wish we were as organized as that wacky writer says we are. Our real battleground is the primaries. Anyone who is not publicly in favor of getting rid of the socialist social security and medicare needs to go.

Anybocy stupid enough to think you could get elected

Achance Saturday, November 7th at 10:02AM EST (link)

on a platform of “getting rid” of Social Security and Medicare sure doesn’t belong in a leadership position in the Republican Party right now. They grew into the behemoths that they are incrementally and they’ll be reformed or eliminated the same way or not at all absent some true crisis.

We need an identifiable conservative brand and a set of platform planks that a candidate must adhere to in order to be a Republican, but we do not, especially in a time when at least once the electorate has demonstrated a medieval level of ignorance and superstition, need to become identifiable as the extremist party.

You might note that is exactly what the Democrats and their media running dogs are trying to do to us; branding us as radicals and extremists.

In Vino Veritas

Obviously, I'm too stupid to spell this morning. nt

Achance Saturday, November 7th at 10:12AM EST (link)

In Vino Veritas

 

Achance- I agree, it would be political suicide

Scope Saturday, November 7th at 11:00AM EST (link)

for any Republican to even wisper that they would eliminate SS or Medicare. Both programs have been broke and busted for years. The promised lockbox has nothing but a bunch of IOU’s in it, that will never be repaid, but, as you said we can only hope to change it incrementally. Have you ever looked into the Galveston TX SS plan? I saw a guy on Cavuto recently that is involved with this plan. He was dull to say the least, and a smile would surely have cracked his face, however, the plan looked interesting, so I looked it up. Here it is-

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba514

This article was posted in 2005, and, I wonder how the current economy has impacted the plan, if at all. Also, the plan was created shortly before Congress closed the opt out of SS loophole in 1983. The best plan that Republicans can come up with as a reform of SS in the future, would be to make the plan or something similar to it, voluntary, at least at first. However, we will need to get a majority of Republicans in Congress to overturn the federal mandate which bans opt out programs. I would also like to see future Republicans push for HSA’s, of course with it be voluntary, again, at least at first. I am not saying that I believe the Federal Government should be involved at all, but, they already are, under both Democrat and Republican administrations with respect to SS and Medicare. We all know how you cannot take away entitlements once they start.

We have the same plan here, or similar anyway.

Achance Saturday, November 7th at 11:35AM EST (link)

The State of Alaska and many of the polisubs opted out of Social Security in the late ’70s. After a thirty year career, my wife doesn’t have her 40 quarters, so she’s going to go get some private sector or fed job to get her quarters. At least with the State, we didn’t let them off the hook for the money they had been contributing to SS - I was on the union side back then.

The employer and employee contributions went into what is styled the Supplemental Benefits System. Your funds are yours and managed individually. Last I looked there were five or six investment schemes ranging from high yield, high risk to low yield, low risk. Back in the Tech Boom days, employees were constantly on the phone with SBS moving money around between funds; it actually became a performance issue people were so into it and spending time on it. My wife was a high level employee with lots of seniority so she was making a good salary yet in those days she was making more every month on her SBS earnings than in salary, on paper anyway. You do have to ride it up and down but you can’t lose your individual contribution and you get the cash when you quit or retire. Some employees have retired as millionaires in SBS funds alone, but to get to that kind of money you have to have been at the political appointee level at the beginning of the program and hung on for twenty or thirty years, not an easy thing to do.

High deductible Major Medical and an HSA system to deal with “maintenance” of your body is what makes sense, but people want the just sign the form and never pay anything level of health insurance and many have had it for so long that it is inconceivable to them to actually pay for medical care. The drug stores here have begun to put the retail price of prescriptions on all their sales just so people know what they cost. I’ve never paid more than $10 for any drug, even the ones that cost hundreds of dollars for a few days. My oldest stepkid has asthsma and uses inhalers that he was pretty addicted to and which he had never paid for. So, he turns 23 and we can’t cover him anymore and has to start buying that stuff himself at over six hundred dollars for a pack of three. He’s learning to do without that stuff!

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 

Well, that certainly would make it a forest of new faces. nt

mbecker908 Saturday, November 7th at 11:04AM EST (link)

CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

So I am stupid?

samdallas Saturday, November 7th at 10:07PM EST (link)

Medicare and Social Security are Socialism pure and simple. I am stupid to say that?

As in single digit IQ stupid. Yes. You are. Absolutely.

mbecker908 Saturday, November 7th at 10:38PM EST (link)

I won’t quibble about your definition of both as socialism and I suspect that I’m a whole lot further to the right on both than are you. Were it my decision I’d do away with both.

We have a long, long way to go before we can sell that to the American people. The voters have become so accustomed to being fed from the trough and so comfortable with the idea that Uncle will care for them in every situation that we’ve got some re-education to do before addressing that subject.

You want to run people who will be “pure” in your little red eyes on these two issues and you’ll see 535 Democrats being sworn in to the next Congress.

We win this battle the same way we’ve lost it. Incrementally. Get the hell over it. Become a Precinct Coordinator in your district and make something happen.

CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.

 
 
 
 

Agreeing with Wolfgang

locomotivebreath1901 Saturday, November 7th at 9:10AM EST (link)

Projection - i.e. psychology: The attribution of one’s own attitudes, feelings, or desires to someone or something as a naive or unconscious defense against anxiety or guilt.

This explains the perplexed perpetual pursuit by Lefties to assign Limbaugh as “Republican Leader”; Tea Parties as “astro turf”; and vague invective of “vast conspiracies” to the right wing.

It also explains why Lefties have such a hard time paying their own taxes, but no problem spending other people’s money - all the while complaining about the evil rich not paying their fair share.

Malevolent moppets all, and I’m fed up with the lot of ‘em.
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Didn't Eugene get kicked off this site a few months ago?

SoFiMil Saturday, November 7th at 10:11AM EST (link)

He gets paid to write THAT?

E Pluribus Unum Saturday, November 7th at 10:13AM EST (link)

Geez, how desperate are those people at the Post? Won’t respectable, qualified people even apply there anymore? In a 10% unemployment rate economy — a hirer’s market if there ever was one — they can’t get decent applicants.

Carthago delenda est

 

I think Eugene is living in a box....

izoneguy Saturday, November 7th at 11:06AM EST (link)

“Sensible Republicans get it. But any GOP officeholder up for reelection has to worry about a possible primary challenge from the right, with tea party fanatics yelling about revolution, Palin posting attacks on social networking sites and Beck shouting treason. I don’t expect to see many profiles in courage.

Republicans, hide any old copies of The Nation you might have lying around. Keep all televisions tuned to Fox News at all times. The Palinite Putsch might be coming for you.”

How does he explain this:

http://www.texastribune.org/stories/2009/nov/06/hopsons-choice/

Rep. Chuck Hopson, D-Jacksonville, will seek reelection, but as a Republican — a move that might save his neck while wrecking the party’s chances at winning a majority in the House.

Hopson, who barely scraped by in 2008, initially planned to make an announcement this afternoon but moved it up to this morning as rumors spread and the Texas Democratic Party scorched him in a press release.

“President Obama and the Democrats in Congress just don’t reflect the values of this district,” he said.

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I think we will see some Blue Dogs actually switch parties after today’s rush to cram PelosiCare down American’s throat. Pelosi has put many of them in a lose/lose scenario.

“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
Thomas Jefferson

 

Sorry, but I don't see any "courage" at all in just going along with the ruling whomever's.

USNJIMRET Saturday, November 7th at 12:07PM EST (link)

Left, Right, Middle (whatever the heck THAT is) or any extreme.
Just going along to get along is actually the definition of cowardice, not courage.
BTW, this is in response to the line quoted above in a post by izoneguy, which was quoting the author of the headlined piece.

 

About The Politico...

Flagstaff Saturday, November 7th at 11:02PM EST (link)

The link above

“**Including the Don’t spend money that you don’t have, you idjits one.”

provides pretty conclusive evidence that The Politico is not the unbiased website that it claims to be.

Only a leftist tool could look at cold hard facts and call them a “dirty trick” without disputing the facts themselves.

Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!

Crap, it passed. nt

Xasteius Saturday, November 7th at 11:08PM EST (link)

Don’t leave the party, hijack it back!

Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.

When I grow up, I don’t want to be Reagan. I want to be Art Chance.
~Aaron Gardner

And Nancy Pelosi is so giddy when she called it

Richard Mullins Saturday, November 7th at 11:19PM EST (link)

Man was she happier than we seen here in a while.

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Chris Matthews wasn't the only one with something running

Flagstaff Wednesday, November 11th at 5:10PM EST (link)

down a leg.

Pluto, the Ninth Planet - Forever!

 
 
 
 

The New Definition Of Inevitable: Two Lousy Votes: 2

Swamp_Yankee Sunday, November 8th at 12:02AM EST (link)

Two votes and Cao stays. That was all. 2 out of 435. And 38 Dems voted with us.

Now the Senate will be compelled to act. And we fight another round. I wont let anyone tell me this fight is moot. Its is everything and it is winnable.

Thanks to all the fighters out there.

I am with you, Swamp

Kyle-MI Sunday, November 8th at 12:44AM EST (link)

This tight vote should make restate Dem Senators nervous. It is time to crank up the heat on the vulnerable.

This is not about next year’s election. This is about stopping this budget-busting, freedom-smashing, stinking heap of garbage.

We have lost a battle, but have not lost the war.

 
 

You got it right at the end

liandro Sunday, November 8th at 5:28AM EST (link)

when you said Eugene WANTS a civil war…it’s their best chance in 2010. I had read his piece earlier, and it was pretty clear to me that he was distorting the election, and Republicans, so as to paint them in the most foolish, bone-headed light possible. Of course, there is the very real possibility that he has worked himself up into actually believing all that, too.

As mentioned above, though, most elections have a primary to take care of this sort of thing. It was a gross miscalculation on the part of the NY party to let it all unfold like that. It is sad when an election would have gone better for us if neither the state or national party had weighed in at all…what does that say about our organizations?

 

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