That was Rep. Stupak’s (DEMOCRAT) blunt response to David Axelrod’s assertion that the pro-life language currently in the health care rationing bill would be ‘adjusted.’ Stupak’s having none of it:
Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) pledged on Tuesday morning to defeat healthcare reform legislation if his abortion amendment is taken out, saying 10 to 20 anti-abortion-rights Democrats would vote against a bill with weaker language.
“They’re not going to take it out,” Stupak said on “Fox and Friends,” referring to Senate Democrats. “If they do, healthcare will not move forward.”
See Hot Air for the video. Stupak claims to have more than enough votes to shut down any final version that removes his amendment, which is both false and true. It’s false because the closeness of the original vote reflected a lot of horse-trading on the individual Member of Congress level; theoretically, the Speaker of the House could simply pressure the Democrats who got to vote ‘no’ last time to vote ‘yes’ this time. It’s true because one of the reasons that they were able to get a final vote was because while the Stupak amendment was scored by NRLC, the final bill was not. Strip out Stupak, and a vote for health care rationing becomes a vote for federal funding of abortions. The NRLC pretty much cannot not score that appropriately.
I close with this observation: this situation for the Democrats is pretty much entirely due to the decision by House Republicans to oppose the health care rationing bill en masse. They’re doing that because the Congressional Democratic leadership decided to shut out everybody except themselves and various outside lobbyists when it came time to put this monstrosity of a bill together. And because the President didn’t intervene when it became clear that the process was disrupting his narrative, we’re now at the point where the Democratic party has to decide which side of the abortion debate is safer to infuriate.
But don’t feel bad for them: after all, they didn’t learn a blessed thing from their mistakes over the ’stimulus’ and cap-and-trade.
Moe Lane
Crossposted to Moe Lane.
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We all know Stupak is blowing smoke
streiff Tuesday, November 17th at 3:38PM EST (link)the way the “pro life Democrats” work is the same way the “Blue Dog democrats” work. Pelosi tells them how many votes they have to deliver to pass the bill, they decide which of their group can or cannot afford the vote and they do what they are told. This is just amateur kabuki theater.
“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”
I was considering that Stupak was a rouse to though off the pro-life dems
Richard Mullins Tuesday, November 17th at 3:45PM EST (link)into voting public option. It got allowed as a means to get it passed.
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Tbone Tuesday, November 17th at 6:20PM EST (link)Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Yeah, and Mr. Stupak ain't the President
Tbone Tuesday, November 17th at 3:44PM EST (link)who can monkey around with regulations implementing his legislation to do just what he pleases.
Envisioning when all that is Left is the Right.
Who's got the popcorn?
Cargosquid Tuesday, November 17th at 3:55PM EST (link)As long as the Stupid Party doesn’t sign on, it doesn’t really matter. Either way, some Democrats lose.
Good times.
Of course, if this does pass in any way, we ALL lose.
I love a good old-fashioned mud rasslin' fight (nt)
RedBeard Tuesday, November 17th at 4:09PM EST (link)Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.
Hatch
sertelt Tuesday, November 17th at 5:02PM EST (link)… announced today he will lead the anti-abortion funding fight in the Senate. http://www.LifeNews.com/nat5674.html
don't count your Hatches
streiff Tuesday, November 17th at 6:49PM EST (link)before they chicken
“A man does what he can and endures what he must.”
NAIVE
beanerecmo Tuesday, November 17th at 6:30PM EST (link)Stupak is either stupidly naive or actively obtuse. When the bill goes to conference; i.e., reconciliation; the pro-abortion language will be reinserted, his amendment torn out, and the bills will be voted as a majority (not 60 in the Senate) without change (Senate/House rules) in both houses for passage.
I was a liberal until I learned to read, got a job and was mugged by willful tax and spend regressives (aka progressives) and naive acolytes.
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