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The NRSC wastes *no* time on properly greeting Giannoulias.

By: Moe Lane (Diary)  |  February 3rd, 2010 at 12:21 AM  | 

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(H/T: @sorendayton) You know, I noticed during the run-up to the Illinois Senatorial primary that more than one Democratic activist expressed worries about a Giannoulias primary win.  And why were they worried?

Pretty much because of what you’re about to see.

Welcome to Chicago.

Moe Lane

PS: Mark Kirk for Senate.

Crossposted to Moe Lane.

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  • Richard Mullins

    There is not to waste here when wacking Alexi. There is no time like the present.

  • http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com/index.cgi IronDioPriest
  • theoneandonlyfinn

    OMG I CANNOT SUPPORT KIRK HE VOTED FOR CAP AND TRADE CASE CLOSED HES JUST A DEM LITE THEREZ NO DIFFERENCE!

    /idiotic and inexuseableness off/

    How ANYONE, ANYONE can grumble about Kirk when THIS is the alternative dumbfounds me.

    There are sadly “so-called” conservatives who would rather stay home.
    I call them so-called because by not voting in protest, they just handed this guy another vote-by-subtraction.

    GO KIRK!

  • http://erickbrockway.wordpress.com/ Erick Brockway

    Whoever they hired to do videos, better keep ‘em.

  • redneck_hippie
  • gekster

    Since he is the Treasurerof the state of Il, he doesn’t have a voting record that I can find.
    Instead, I went to the courage test, “stand on issues”, and I found this:

    http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=72789

    It seems obvious he hasn’t taken a stand on any thing.
    Or any he will declare.
    I could be wrong.
    I usually am.

  • writeblock

    He could pick up IL. Then if we hold our own seats and take PA, AR, DE, CO, NV, WI, WA, IN, CA and NY–we take the Senate, with one seat to spare. It’s possible, with the right candidates and the public out for blood.

  • writeblock

    ND !!!

  • illinois

    If this guy doesn’t wake up the rest of the “regular non-Chicago style ” Dems—–then nothing will. He sure does fit in well with the rest of Obama’s radical goons. Like the finger eaters—and union goons. Hopefully…..they’ll see clearly what they have—like Van Jones, Anita Dunn, Bill Ayers……. Go easy on Kirk—sure he’s a Rino…..but would you rather have the likes of Burris? Any Repub in Illinoissssssss has to walk a fine line.

  • Brian_Roastbeef

    I was hoping that Hughes would pull a miracle, or even Don Lowery, but now that we know it is in fact Kirk, its time to step up and rally around the candidate. He isn’t ideal, but he’ll be a vote with us at least as often as not. He will be better than any Democrat, particularly Giannoulias or either of the last two guys that have inhabited that seat.

    There are times for ideological purity and times for pragmatism. Reagan understood that with his “80% rule.” We weren’t able to get an ideal conservative, so its time to support the best remaining candidate. Kirk should be able to win over some disaffected Hoffman voters, and this is a good ad to start things off. I just hope that he’s sincere about having learned his lesson on crap and trade.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    That would be hypocritical of the President.

  • gekster

    It will tell it to you simple and you will understand.
    When you are in the Family, You are “in” the Family.
    With Marriage, it’s until “death” do you part.
    With the Family, It will only be by “death” do you part.

    not intended as a slur to Marlan Brando impersinators.

  • jeffreywturner

    Attacking a Chicago politician for being a scumbag is like attacking a San Francisco politician for being gay – it probably helps them more than it hurts.

    Of course I am joking, but with as many crooks as they seem to elect up there, you have to wonder if they don’t actually prefer their politicians to be crooks. Then again, the people of New Jersey woke up this year, so I suppose there is hope.

  • gekster
  • Illinicon

    if Brady holds on tonight, because downstate conservatives like him and will show up to the polls for him and given how bad Giannoulius is I think they will vote for him and not a 3rd party guy when they start off the ballot with the Senate race.

  • redneck_hippie

    Being hypocritical is just a preamble for the Great Prevaricator. Heck, he could just make Alexi the crime czar after Kirk kicks his butt.

    All Obama’s men will be screaming at him to stay out of Illinois, but I just don’t think Obama will be able to stop himself from hugging a thug. That and the media will be on fire about Obama’s state losing a senate seat. Delicious.

  • http://itsaboutfreedom.proboards.com/index.cgi IronDioPriest
  • zbigreddogz

    Exactly correct.

    Kirk is basically Scott Brown. Not as authentic, perhaps, but just about where Brown is on the issues.

    And that’s a small price to pay for taking away OBAMA’S Senate seat. That’s even better then Kennedy’s

  • zbigreddogz

    Brady is probably the best thing that happened to Kirk.

    Doesn’t hurt us in several house races as well, Halvorsen, Foster etc.

  • gekster

    i neede that

  • gekster

    did it again

  • Third Street

    I groused about Kirk earlier in the primary season, but the primary is now over and along with it, the time for grousing. Kirk is preferable to Giannoulias by several zillion orders of magnitude, he puts us one step closer to controlling the Senate, and his win would hand the GOP the enormous PR victory of taking Obama’s AND Biden’s old Senate seats (since the DE race is basically a done deal).

    Conservatives who still seek to undermine Kirk, who would play the “lose now to win later” strategy, and those in Illinois who would vote third-party or stay home in November, are the real “Republicans In Name Only”.

  • illinois

    But, recall the last repub we had for this seat??? Peter Fitzgerald?? He replaced Carol Mosely-Crookly Brown. Remember how she had all the scams sending money to Africa and selling political favors? Seems like the same circus diff clowns? So—-Brown in MA & Kirk in Illinoissssssss—–this Illinoissssssssss conservative will gladly have them over Obummer, Durbin, Burris, Mosely-Brown, and whoever else they drag out of the woodwork!

  • Swamp_Yankee

    Its not even close.

    Brown opposes Cap and Trade and Gay Marriage. He fought for concealed carry laws. He has a stalwart record of fighting taxes ans spending.

    Just take abortion for example. While Brown supports Roe v.Wade as the law of the land. He fought for parental notification and conscience clauses. He is opposed to public funding of abortion and partial birth abortion and he proactively supports adoption.

    Kirk unconscionably support partial birth abortion.

  • thurman

    Time to take off the gloves

    This kid is such a cocky punk– him holding on to win was the NDSC’s worst nightmare

    We had our chance, in the primary, but Kirk won fair and square.

    It’s IL, not SC– Kirk is as good as it’s going to get for us

    Time to rally and take another precious message seat from the Dims

    First Teddy’s, then Reid, Obama and Biden’s seats will turn red.

    2010 has already made up for the misery of 2008/2009

    Is it Nov yet?

  • theoneandonlyfinn

    to quote Bush, you are either with us, or against us.

    you can oppose his atrocious social views.

    but if you insist and believe AG is BETTER than us having control of the Senate, then by all means, the Democratic Party thanks your support, because that is exactly where one stands who feels that way.

    There really is NO middle ground here.
    Not this year.

    Primary fights are one thing.
    But the general is option A, option B. There is no C, D, E,F, etc.

  • Swamp_Yankee

    Dont put words into my mouth. You have a one track mind. I neve said any such thing.

    My point is the unfair comparisons. For example, the NRA congratulated Brown because they know his record. Lets see if Kirk, who has an ‘F’ NRA rating, gets a similar congratulations

    http://www.nraila.org/News/Read/NewsReleases.aspx?ID=13311

    And with respect to Kirk, I only have so much time and money. If it were a special election and the only race around I’d be more inclined to support him. But since it is a 11/2 race, I have about a twenty other races that I have my eye on. I’ll wish Kirk luck, but I leave Kirk and AG for the good people of Illinois to fight.

  • theoneandonlyfinn

    with a purist on another site and Im still seeing red at the silliness.

    How do you feel as an outside observer of our race here in California, btw?

  • illinois

    Between Kirk and the Dem…….I’m voting Kirk…………here in Illinoisssssssss………..dealing with Melissa Beanie, Dingie Durbin, etc, etc……….Peter Fitgerald looked great and so does Kirk. I suppose the only way to improve my voting options is to move to a RED state! Meanwhile…….stuck with what we have here in Illinoisssssssssssss.

  • zbigreddogz

    1. Brown NOW opposes cap and trade, he supported a Massachusetts version when he was in the State Senate. Kirk also NOW opposes cap and trade, he admits he flip-flopped on the issue, saying when he started touring the state as a Senate candidate, he saw what it would do to manufacturing down-state. Do I think this is sincere? Absolutely not. But I don’t think Brown’s is either.

    2. Brown opposes federalizing gay marriage but considers Massachusetts’s legalization is “settled” and shouldn’t be changed. Kirk also does not oppose federalizing a gay marriage ban.

    3. Kirk is also opposed to partial birth abortion and voted for the Stupak amendment. Look it up.

  • ronalds

    He is also strong on defense and terrorism. He is loudly opposing the closing of Guantanamo prison. He is strongly pro-Israel. He has served and continues to serve in the US military himself. Folks, he won’t be with us on most environmental or social issues–but on nearly everything else he’d be a reliable GOP vote. Mark Kirk is our best chance for a Republican to win in IL.

  • RedBeard

    I’m not sure why there is always so much confusion and bizarre posturing over situations like this.

    Of course most of us on this site would have preferred a conservative Republican for the Senate seat. But we don’t have that, so now we should whole-heartedly support the not-so-pure Republican over his awful Dem opponent.

    Why is there any argument about this course of action?

    I don’t know how many conservatives stayed home last November because they were throwing tantrums over the imperfect John McCain, but those petulant non-voters sure didn’t help to stop the miserable failure who now sits in the Big Chair today.

  • http://slcliberty.blogivists.com randy streu

    Agreed, RedBeard. If you have an otherwise good dog that got a little confused and bit your hand, you don’t put him down right away. You swat him and you watch him. Then, if he keeps biting, you put him down.

  • JSobieski

    Significant issues of disagreement, but we are talking Illinois.

    Given a sliding scale, Kirk from Illinois is far better than Graham from SC

  • http://www.suvstrategery.blogspot.com SoFiMil

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  • Brian Hibbert

    Kirk isn’t exactly a conservative Republican, but he’s far and above better than Alexi (communists, mob connected D).

    Lets see, Senator Kirk or Senator Giannoulias. Let’s choose.

    GO KIRK!!!!!!

  • Brian Hibbert

    Of course they’re supporting their hand picked candidate, but at least they’re putting the time and money in to supporting him..

  • proudgop

    even if I am Italian and love Tony Soprano

    I noticed turnout yesterday in Illinois was low but only 150,000 more Dems voted in their primary then Republicans not great sign for moral

    Go Kirk! Take the People’s Seat in Illinois Not Obama’s

  • mriggio

    (At least I think Brady; he’s up by several hundred votes last results I found) This is why we have primaries! We have our candidates, now LET’S GO!

  • mriggio

    via dirty tricks in the Illinois Senate campaign. We ended up with an unviable candidate, Obama took the Senate seat in a walk, and kept on walking right into the White House. Kirk’s our guy now; Ronald Reagan himself would have difficulty winning a state-wide in Illinois these days, so go Kirk!

  • AngryMatt

    But we’re definitely going to a recount. I’m no Nate Silver fan, but the man is usually good with statistical analysis and his projection is pretty easy to agree with; the remaining vote left to be counted will likely whittle Brady’s advantage down to as little as a single vote.

    Just hope the recount fight does not get ugly. Oh, and that Dillard definitely DOES lose.

  • Brian Hibbert

    I don’t expect McKenna to do the same. He’s still making noises claiming that his victory is ensured in the end.

    We could use Governor Brady to clean out the filth left over from Blago!

  • Swamp_Yankee

    You like to play lose with facts. That’s a bad habit.

    Kirk scored a %100 rating from NARAL. And voted against the partial birth abortion ban:

    http://www.ontheissues.org/IL/Mark_Kirk_Abortion.htm

    Pro-life groups actually celebrated Brown’s victory.

    You dont refute the fact that he was an “F’” NRA vote.

    Sorry, facts are stubborn things Kirk voted for Cap and Trade. Brown has been opposed to cap and trade from the beginning. You speak of his past, which you apparently no nothing, including the fact he voted GOP 96% of the time.

    And federalism and states rights is a conservative poistion. He fought gay marriage here. Marriage and family law is the province of the states.

  • Swamp_Yankee

    Kirk’s roll call vote on partial birth abortion:

    http://www.championnews.net/article.php?sid=2300

    Mass Citizens for Life eondorsed and celebrated Brown:

    http://blog.masscitizensforlife.org/2010/01/congratulations-now-lets-finish-job.html

  • red_oakster

    If AG implodes, he might withdraw and we would face a more formidable candidate.

  • streetwise

    and the upcoming Blago trial?

  • streetwise

    and the upcoming Blago trial?

  • Michael Dugas

    and will be memorable for a long time. But I’m still pissed at the NRSC. Did you click on that link? Notice the embed with links to info about :
    1: Crist
    2 Kirk
    3 McCain
    etc etc etc.
    But not ONE mention of Rubio. Charlie Crist will NOT be the next senator from the great state of Florida. He’ll be lucky if he can get re-elected as governor.
    The NRSC will never get another dime from me until Cornyn is gone and they stop trying to steer us pre primary and tell us who to vote for.

  • paint_it_red

    Drawing out these connections are important, but the ad is problematic in several ways:

    1. It instantly defines Kirk as a negative campaigner. This may help for a little while, but deviates from the McDonnell model and from the Brown model.

    2. Why the Italian accent? Talking about gangster connections for a Greek banker with the Italian accent is going to rub some the wrong way, big time.

    3. Far too early. Negative ads this early in the race get forgotten over time and become old news. Giannoulis will recover and then the ammunition is already spent.

    Ulitmately each candidate gets to define themselves over a long campaign. The winner will be about who can tap into bread and butter issues and make their case on policy. That’s what McDonnell did, what Brown did, and what Christie did. Kirk needs to focus on defining himself as an idea candidate with policies that connect to the people. If this is going to be the direction of the Kirk campaign, I’m even less optimistic than before.

  • paint_it_red

    To not vote. Just because someone is the party nominee does not mean they reflect party values. He is probably still better than the Dem here, and maybe the best we can get in Illinois, I don’t know. But to take the conservative base for granted because a candidate is the lesser of two evils is a very bad presumption. That’s the same mistake the NRCC made with Scozzofazza. I’m not putting Kirk in the same category, but the point is you cannot take the base for granted. Their votes must be earned just like anyone else’s.