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Yes, because ‘Pot-growing, Anti-Bush Troofer [AND REGISTERED DEMOCRAT]‘ = Right-winger.

By: Moe Lane (Diary)  |  March 5th, 2010 at 12:21 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

[UPDATE]: And a registered Democrat, apparently (thanks, Aaron Gardner & slammer for the link).  Do we still want to play this game? – because it’s really odd: these days it’s like everybody except Republicans / conservatives are out there shooting at people, beating up protesters, or biting fingers off.  Are we missing out on all the ‘fun?”

I wasn’t going to bring up the politics of J. Patrick Bedell - mostly because, like Patterico, I figure that the guy was just nuts from the start, and not made that way by listening to Keith Olbermann* – but since the Christian Science Monitor wants to play ‘Spot the Right-wing Extremist!‘ I guess that we’re just going to have to point out that the following characteristics:

…do not precisely fit the narrative.  And by ‘do not precisely fit’ I mean ‘contradict.’  That first opinion alone is shared by how much of the Democratic party, again?

I swear to God, it’s like some of these people want there to be right-wing crazies attacking everything that moves.  Which is sick.

Moe Lane

*Glenn’s joking, of course.  I mean, seriously: nobody listens to Keith Olbermann.

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  • Redbirdfan

    Another huge indicator of his right wing extremism is his alma mater-UC Santa Cruz.

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    …or clubs/organizations I decided not to bring it up.

  • Trelaina

    I’ve been watching the #tcot feed this morning and they are claiming the simple fact that he was “anti government” as proof that this guy was right-wing.

    They still do not realize that in this day and age with the citizen’s media out there they can no longer just make something true by SAYING it.

  • Marcus_Traianus

    After all, being the foremost teacher of the church, even he would wonder how an organization operating under the banner Christian-Science-Monitor could be the antithesis of that moniker.

    Come to think of it- that publication would probably label him a right winger.

  • Redbirdfan

    I’ve been in through that entrance many times since it was reopened and all i can say is he must have been a bad shot and probably unfamiliar with handguns. Yet another indicator of his right wing extremism.

  • jpniner

    he was a fan of Von Mises, which in reality is Lew Rockwells version of Mises, using his name to push Murray Rothbards Anarchist and Conspiratorial views.

    Somehow he has a MISES.COM Domain name for his Email address:

    a look at the blog shows he was a Rothbard fanatic, the google cache of his Facebook shows he was Lew Rockwell fan.

    So no lefty, but no normal Conservative or Republican.

    And yes, this is why Ron Paul should be Blackballed out of the party the same way Buckley and Goldwater ran off Rothbard!!!!!!

  • jpniner

    he was a fan of Von Mises, which in reality is Lew Rockwells version of Mises, using his name to push Murray Rothbards Anarchist and Conspiratorial views.

    Somehow he has a MISES.COM Domain name for his Email address:

    a look at the blog shows he was a Rothbard fanatic, the google cache of his Facebook shows he was Lew Rockwell fan.

    So no lefty, but no normal Conservative or Republican.

    And yes, this is why Ron Paul should be Blackballed out of the party the same way Buckley and Goldwater ran off Rothbard!!!!!!

  • jpniner

    So how did this guy have an email domain from Mises? Work there or is it like Hotmail for the cultist?

  • jpniner

    So how did this guy have an email domain from Mises? Work there or is it like Hotmail for the cultist?

  • skorrent1

    Maybe right-wing, but honestly, attacking the Pentagon!! And only injuring at point-blank range!! I mean, really, does that sound like a gun-loving right-winger to you?

  • slammer

    http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/05/about-the-pentagon-shooter/

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Too good to be true.

  • jpniner

    shows him as a fan of Lew Rockwell and Mises Institute.

    Has a Mises domain Email address somehow? Has an old blog devoted to Anarchist Murray Rothbard, who Lrew Rockwell worships.

    This is the paultard wing that has all the overlap with far-out leftist nuts Paul caters too.

    I’ve never met a big Mises.com/Rockwell fan that wasn’t a paultard. Rockwell is a huge Paul friend and booster, checkout his blog.

    the Far-Left and Anarchist “Right” overlap alot on the crazy stuff. Always have, throughout history.

  • jpniner

    shows him as a fan of Lew Rockwell and Mises Institute.

    Has a Mises domain Email address somehow? Has an old blog devoted to Anarchist Murray Rothbard, who Lrew Rockwell worships.

    This is the paultard wing that has all the overlap with far-out leftist nuts Paul caters too.

    I’ve never met a big Mises.com/Rockwell fan that wasn’t a paultard. Rockwell is a huge Paul friend and booster, checkout his blog.

    the Far-Left and Anarchist “Right” overlap alot on the crazy stuff. Always have, throughout history.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Considering it is the same thing that DU is pushing here.

    It’s also puzzling since he was a registered Democrat as seen >a href=”http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/05/about-the-pentagon-shooter/”>here.

  • jpniner

    but he does agree with the Far-Left Chomsky crowd, there is plenty of overlap.

    Ron Paul had alot of Leftwing Democrat supporters

    Here is the Shooters Facebook, Fan of Lew Rockwell and the Libertarian(really Anarchist) Mises institute

    http://www.facebook.com/jpbedell

  • jpniner

    http://www.facebook.com/jpbedell

    Definitely him, definitely a fan of Rockwell.

    However, true conservatives and Republicans should’ve and should let it be well known they have nothing to do with the Anarcho-Capitalist. i.e. Paultards

  • Aaron Gardner

    Nor does anything you have said change the fact that Bedell was a registered Democrat. Maybe is you gave me one source that wasn’t either broken, or a Democrat blog I might consider what you are saying is true.

    Until then, could you just stop trying to pin this guy on what is still considered our side? i.e. libertarians

  • jpniner

    to the “Tea Parties”.

    Ron Paul and the Lew Rockwell/Mises people held an ANti-War rally called a “Tea Party” in Dec. 2007. They will claim this was the birth of the “Tea Baggers”. Then show how Ron Paul won CPAC, a sign that Conservatives are now Paultards and note how Sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul(along with Redstate).

    From that insert Souther Law Poverty Center on the Mises Institute and lew Rockwell and presto, the party registration means nothing. The fact that Paultards are really a minority and trying to sabatoge the GOP means nothing. ALl that matters is the narrative.

  • jpniner

    to the “Tea Parties”.

    Ron Paul and the Lew Rockwell/Mises people held an ANti-War rally called a “Tea Party” in Dec. 2007. They will claim this was the birth of the “Tea Baggers”. Then show how Ron Paul won CPAC, a sign that Conservatives are now Paultards and note how Sarah Palin endorsed Rand Paul(along with Redstate).

    From that insert Souther Law Poverty Center on the Mises Institute and lew Rockwell and presto, the party registration means nothing. The fact that Paultards are really a minority and trying to sabatoge the GOP means nothing. ALl that matters is the narrative.

  • Aaron Gardner
  • jpniner

    aren’t on our side, they are in bed with the Far-Left nutters. This is Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul and company, they worship Murray Rothbard, Anarchist-Libertarian. Not a mainstream libertarian.

    http://www.facebook.com/jpbedell

    the link works for me, its clearly him and Lew Rockwell is his Friend on facebook.

    he has a Mises.com domain Email address, which is a site that worships Murray Rothbard, not Von Mises so much.

    Here is the guys old blog, when you google for his email address:

    http://rothbardix.blogspot.com/

    I’m a fan for Hayek and Von Mises and Milton Friedman, I’m NOT A FAN of Murray Rothbard, Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul. There is not jsut a line but a Ditch to be dug there, and not crossed.

  • jpniner

    aren’t on our side, they are in bed with the Far-Left nutters. This is Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul and company, they worship Murray Rothbard, Anarchist-Libertarian. Not a mainstream libertarian.

    http://www.facebook.com/jpbedell

    the link works for me, its clearly him and Lew Rockwell is his Friend on facebook.

    he has a Mises.com domain Email address, which is a site that worships Murray Rothbard, not Von Mises so much.

    Here is the guys old blog, when you google for his email address:

    http://rothbardix.blogspot.com/

    I’m a fan for Hayek and Von Mises and Milton Friedman, I’m NOT A FAN of Murray Rothbard, Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul. There is not jsut a line but a Ditch to be dug there, and not crossed.

  • izoneguy

    http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/05/about-the-pentagon-shooter/

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  • jpniner

    I don’t think they will, I think they want Ron Paul around to cause GOP and Conservatism trouble in 2012 and this yr.

    Just pointing out how they could if they ever so choose, which is one of several reasons why Ron paul should be shown the door by Conservatives.

    They must realize he is not a “limited government” conservative, he is in bed with the far-left on National Security and is an Anarchist on Domestic issues. Its well masked, but just spend some time at Lew Rockwell’s blog and read Murray Rothbards viewpoints.

    Anyway, I think there is a good reason the MSM hasn’t taken Paul and company down yet, and there is a good reason Pelosi lets Paul have so much pork. 3 times as much as Sheila Jackson-Lee last year.

  • jpniner

    I don’t think they will, I think they want Ron Paul around to cause GOP and Conservatism trouble in 2012 and this yr.

    Just pointing out how they could if they ever so choose, which is one of several reasons why Ron paul should be shown the door by Conservatives.

    They must realize he is not a “limited government” conservative, he is in bed with the far-left on National Security and is an Anarchist on Domestic issues. Its well masked, but just spend some time at Lew Rockwell’s blog and read Murray Rothbards viewpoints.

    Anyway, I think there is a good reason the MSM hasn’t taken Paul and company down yet, and there is a good reason Pelosi lets Paul have so much pork. 3 times as much as Sheila Jackson-Lee last year.

  • discerningconservative

    You are trying to tie political aspirations to the crime this guy committed. Where is your proof? This guy committed an heinous crime, but at this point there is no proof that it was motivated by political convictions. What you are doing here (trying to tie him to the Ronulans) is the same thing that the MSM is doing (Right-wing extremist). I’m in no way trying to defend RP, nor should I have to since there is no connection the original post. It is sad that when someone commits a crime, there is a mad scramble to assign the criminal to a certain political view. Sometimes crazy is just crazy.

  • jpniner

    Serious question? I don’t think he’s a Republican either, anymore than I think Ron Paul is a conservative republican.

    Sure, his party registration hurts MSM’s narrative. Point here is to note the Far-Left-Nutter backdoor into the GOP: RON PAUL, LEW ROCKWELL, Birch Society and Company. They attract all the crazies, yet we let them into CPAC and get the Straw Poll. It is very dangerous.

    Buckley ran these loons off originally for a good reason.

  • jpniner

    Serious question? I don’t think he’s a Republican either, anymore than I think Ron Paul is a conservative republican.

    Sure, his party registration hurts MSM’s narrative. Point here is to note the Far-Left-Nutter backdoor into the GOP: RON PAUL, LEW ROCKWELL, Birch Society and Company. They attract all the crazies, yet we let them into CPAC and get the Straw Poll. It is very dangerous.

    Buckley ran these loons off originally for a good reason.

  • hickorystick

    out of cannabis?
    “I have posted the image to the right in order to illustrate the use of cannabis as a monetary system using digital financial instruments. There are two information currency units in each of the PDF417 codes pictured. One of the information currency units is drawn from a series with “one gram cannabis” with the underlying asset, and the second ICU in each code has as its underlying asset the” URL http://www.mises.org/humanaction/pdf/humanaction.pdf

    Bizarre!
    note: One of the cardinal truths of the dope smokers at my High School back when, was that Marijuana makes you more peaceful, as opposed to alcohol.

  • Aaron Gardner

    Just saying.

  • Richard Mullins

    is it possible that he might be a LaRouchie? It’s just a thought. It seems that he has voting issues since he hasn’t voted since 2005. There’s a problem there. The comparison of Bedell and Stack seem to be the typical leftist that hates everything government. I’m thinking that those conservatives in CA need to be on the lookout for nuts like Bedell. I consider these people to be quite dangerous and need to be treated as such.

  • hickorystick

    He’s the dangerous fringe of the Democrat Party. From the Dem’s viewpoint, the only dangerous people are in the center of the party.

  • undergroundconservative

    in, and only marginally Christian about, the Monitor’s sponsor, the church that bears it’s name. May God have mercy on me for saying so.

  • indyjohn

    From the descriptions that I have read, I think that I can make an educated guess regarding his state of mind. He probably started out thinking that Republicans were evil incarnate (Bush was responsible for 9/11, lied, invaded Iraq for secret, nefarious reasons, spied on the American people – all part of a global conspiracy). His home was the Democrat Party because its leaders were opposing Bush. Then the Democrats take over in Washington and HOLY SMOKES! there is almost no difference between them and Bush. They are part of the conspiracy, too. It’s ALL a scam. The problem then is not the political parties, but the corrupt and corrupting government itself. He is drawn first to libertarianism, then moves on to anarchism, sees himself as the lone, sane man crying out in the wilderness, ‘Stop the government/industrial/military complex! It’s turning us into slaves!’, and when no one listens, he decides to make a high-profile statement.

  • m_quick

    There are nuts who like all kinds of stuff, trying to link them to groups and say “SEE? They’re ALL nuts” is exactly what the left does.

    The truth is, the younger conservatives like Paul (just look at CPAC). He speaks about fiscal conservatism without getting all preachy on moral issues. I think the young people want to be conservative, but they don’t want to impose their moral values on others.

    And mises.org pushes free market literature more than anything. The people who are fellows, like Robert Murphy and Thomas Woods, have written some of the best free market books lately. The Politically Incorrect Guide to Capitalism and Meltdown are good examples. They also promote books like Hazlitt’s “Economics in One Lesson” and Hayek’s “Road to Serfdom” more than anything.

  • Achance

    but they were one of the sponsors of CPAC. I gotta rethink that CPAC thing; I’d hate to be forced to admit that Sarah Palin was right about something.

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    I know one guy who was a Bircher, a Libertarian, a Perot voter, then he became a Larouchite, then a Bircher again.

    Once you get the conspiracy bug, it just won’t ever let you go.

  • jamesmackey

    Ronald Reagan was a huge fan of Ludwig von Mises.

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    Rothbard was a brilliant thinker and a good conservative economist but he simply went crazy.

    This is not unprecedented. Another brilliant guy and a regular National Review contributor Joe Sobran also went off the deep end and fell into conspiracy madness.

    Conspiracy is really a sort of sickness.

  • jamesmackey

    Actually the Dec 2007 Tea Party was a online fundraiser in which the Paul campaign netted 6.2 million in a 24hr period. I live in Austin Texas and they had a rather large one here. 2-3 thousand people. They held them all over the country that day.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LsnbN7d-8

  • jpniner

    if aren’t registered R or D pretty much, but it is an effective talking point against MSM narrative. However, we should all notice where this fool is coming from, the Anarcho-Nutter fringe in the Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell and company fringe.

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

  • jpniner

    if aren’t registered R or D pretty much, but it is an effective talking point against MSM narrative. However, we should all notice where this fool is coming from, the Anarcho-Nutter fringe in the Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell and company fringe.

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/

  • jpniner

    can get away with over a decades worth of Racist and Conspiratorial newsletters printed in their name by the MSM?????

    Not really a ‘conspiracy’ so much as discernment

  • jpniner

    can get away with over a decades worth of Racist and Conspiratorial newsletters printed in their name by the MSM?????

    Not really a ‘conspiracy’ so much as discernment

  • jpniner

    and called for his Impeachment and repeated every Leftist Lie of the era.

    See this 1983 Article, sound familar???? This is Ron Paul’s idol:

    ————

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard54.html

    Ronald Reagan, Warmonger
    by Murray N. Rothbard
    by Murray N. Rothbard

    This article first appeared in the Libertarian Forum, Vol. XVII, Nos. 7?8, July?August, 1983.

    ———

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens
  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    Thanks in advance.

    Moe Lane

    PS: This is not a topic for discussion.

  • jpniner

    however, he’s mostly right on this one. Just doing my on-going anarcho-libertarian education since they are outright trying to takeover the GOP and destroy it.

  • jpniner

    however, he’s mostly right on this one. Just doing my on-going anarcho-libertarian education since they are outright trying to takeover the GOP and destroy it.

  • Aaron Gardner
  • Aaron Gardner
  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Who told you that?

    D and R primaries are both open to DTS voters.

  • rbdwiggins

    for all of the delusional HWSNBN supporters who thought they knew more about the US Constitution, its conservative principles and the creation of our Republic than the Founders. They were wrong when they flooded the Member Diaries and Comment Sections in support of HWSNBN throughout the ’08 primaries. They are still wrong.

    Note: Morality is a key component of the conservative principles that enable the Constitution, and it’s crucial to the longevity of our constitutional Republic.

    How do I know that?… We were warned…

    “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” ? John Adams, October 11, 1798

    They can ignore that warning if they like, the Constitution protects their right to be clueless, but they do so at the expense of our Republic. We actually learned by studying history, as opposed to revising it, and we’ll work tirelessly to overcome their selfishness.

  • Richard Mullins

    before typing something that they don’t know. Thanks Neil, and I still don’t understand why crazy folk have to land up in CA or MA once in there lives. It seems to be a breeding ground for nuts. No offense, Neil(your an exception).

  • Doc Holliday

    it seems to me your goal is to split social conservatives and libertarian conservatives who are all Republicans and want to have a winning coalition.

    This guy was a deranged nut. No conservative of any stripe would try to attack the Pentagon for political reasons. In fact, I am starting to tire of all this gotcha politics when it comes to people who have tried to murder fellow Americans.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    As long as he’s attacking the Austrian/Ronulan axis, I’m going to enjoy the popcorn.

  • jamesmackey

    Predicted the housing crash back in 2003. They were laughed at. The shot heard around You Tube in 2008. Peter Schiff blows Art Laffer supply side economist out of the water.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfascZSTU4o

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    I got interested in Economics, where I finally got my degree, by reading a beginners book on economics by Murry Rothbard.

    Of course it was written in the early 1960′s before he became eaten up with the conspiracy theory bug. He really was a brilliant man and his ideas did not differ much from Milton Friedman’s. He was also Walter Williams’ early mentor.

    But once you go for all that anarchy/conspiracy stuff you are lost.

    It is doubly strange in his case because almost every conspiracy theory ends up being anti-semitic at it’s heart.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    San Francisco became the hippy magnet of the country.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    With the guy we’re talking about in this thread, I’d avoid using “shot heard” in relation to Austrobots.

  • hickorystick

    But as a Seattle-ite, I Know all too well what a few anarchists can do. A couple dozen tricked a couple thousand into riot.

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    there is no doubt that there is a point of equilibrium on the Laffer curve. The argument is where is that point?

    Some economists have been guilty of a bit of history revisionism. Laffer and the supply siders in the Reagan white house never tried to sell it as the only way to reduce the deficit, It was always tax cuts coupled with spending reductions.

    In fact they made a deal with the Democrats to have two dollars of spending cuts to every one dollar of tax cuts, but of course the Democrats lied, (no shock there).

    What some would have us believe is that we would have had the same growth and dynamic economy (or nearly the same) had our marginal rates remained at 70%. I find that to be silly on the face of it.

    Under dynamic scoring marginal tax increases never realize the same revenues as they are predicted to have, and tax cuts never lose as much revenue as the CBO predicts.

    The only thing I do agree with is that at a certain marginal rate tax cuts do not pay for themselves with higher growth. But where is that point? currently taxes have gone back up when you count all taxation. I am not certain at all that a good cut wouldn’t get us a lot more revenue especially now that we are in a recession.

  • Achance

    “alternative lifestyles” to begin with.

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    then they set about making it as unfree as possible.

  • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

    Parents were in New York, Philadelphia, Chicago…. and SF was WAAAAY out west.

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    because Texas is one of the few places with any jobs right now we have a big migration from other states, and the area around Austin is a big magnet for progressives. They have started trying to throw their weight around politically and it will only get worse as more and more of them meet the residency requirements for voting.

    But it will take them awhile to make a dent in the inherent conservatism of this state.

  • rbdwiggins

    Predicted the housing crash back in 2000. They even cited multiple reasons for the pending crash.

    President Bush tried to stop/mitigate the pending disaster beginning in 2001, but his efforts were systematically rejected by congressional Democrats.

    And Kyle’s right, we must constantly be on guard to refute and correct the revision of history: It’s always been about tax cuts coupled with spending cuts.

  • Achance

    the sixties though. There was a Soviet Consulate there and the KGB/GRU ran most of their operations against the aerospace and much of the electronics and atomic espionage out of there from the late ’30s on, and they found a friendly sea to swim in.

  • http://impudent.blognation.us/blog kyle8

    which was always shot through with fellow travelers. Joe McCarthy might have gone too far with his denunciations and accusations but he was not wrong about a lot of them.

  • rbdwiggins

    President Obama has proven, beyond a shadow of doubt, that Keynesian Economics is based on false premises and is a complete and utter failure.

  • Richard Mullins

    It’s a bit more of magnet south of US 183. At that point the sanity kicks in(well sort of since this is Austin). If you want to work in Austin but still stay sanely conservative, you’d have to live somewhere like Elgin or Round Rock, or live in the saner parts of Austin. My months of commuting from SouthEast San Antonio to North Austin(a distance of 90+ miles one way) taught me a bit about Austin. Austin is a crazy place to drive to and drive in.

  • Richard Mullins

    of Pickett County. I don’t think knew all that much of San Francisco and never left Pickett county until the early part of the 20th Century. 7 Generations in the Same area and it doesn’t make any crazy people. I can say that like most Southerners we have relatives in other southern states(Yes, even Georgia). That’s just what happens.

  • Doc Holliday

    what he is doing. You have to see the entire pattern. It is always the libertarians, now he ads this anarchist stuff. It seems if you throw in the names of a few disreputable theorists, you can say anything about anyone. I am on the libertarian side of CONSERVATISM because of the Constitution. I have not even heard of half the guys he mentions. But I think he is still trying to split the site.

    He also said Anarcho-libertarians are trying to “take over” the Republican party. Now are there even enough “Anarcho-Libertarians” to take over our party?

    Anyway, I don’t mind knowing first :)

    not personal jpinner, it is kind of interesting. And if I am wrong, sorry.

  • Aaron Gardner

    The pentagon shooter was an anarcho-libertarian plotting to take over the Republican party by registering as a Democrat and believing that evil Republicans planned and perpetrated 9/11.

    Jeez, can’t you follow logic. /sarc

    ;)

  • Doc Holliday
  • Doc Holliday

    a couple thousand brain dead lefties with tin foil hats

  • hickorystick

    I hadn’t made that clear. They didn’t need much pushing. The ones who already had a distorted view of Constitutional liberty, easily got caught up when law had to be enforced within their mass. Point is, if you let characters with a marginal grip on reality hang around a protest, it can easily be turned into something ugly. You may think your sticking up for someones rights, but that person has done something to make the Police take action. Usually their is someone planted in the crowd shouting that the police have done something they didn’t. The whole situation can be easily manipulated if a person knows what they are doing. Piener may have a point, I don’t know. I just think it’s better to know who is on the perimeter of your protest.

  • hickorystick

    business. He was after the State Department and Treasury. More accurately, he was after the Senate to force the State Dept. to clean house. There were commies and socialists up and down the coast in the ’10′s and ’20′s.

  • Doc Holliday

    the iq of a mob = (the iq of least intelligent member) – (number in the mob) = the mobs IQ

    I tend to avoid them, so far, so good

  • Achance
  • Achance

    more than McCarthy did. McCarthy concentrated on Communists and fellow travellers inside the government. We could use a reincarnation of HUAC today. I wouldn’t mind being COS!

  • Doc Holliday

    I am starting to lean that way too, particularly with smaller mobs, If they are on a bus you might just have to multiply by zero.

  • Doc Holliday

    but let’s be honest, next time Al Queda attacks they are going to wonder if the Tea Parties made them do it.

  • Achance
  • mbecker908

    ((Lowest IQ of Group Member) / (Members in the Group)) / (1 / (Avg Blood Alcohol Level of Group))

    Recognizing that with a group of young males the ABAL is NEVER zero.

  • Achance

    when both my boys were home. Both were dedicated to not drawing a sober breath in the course of the day and they just went from dumb, to dumber, to dumbest. The younger one was headed for Benning in early January, so he was trying to cram in everything he could and I think he got thrown out of every bar in town, and some of those bars are really hard to get thrown out of! Those two had two weeks of debauchery.

  • http://andrightlyso.com/ civil_truth

    because in its usual units, ABAL is a fraction less than 1.

    How about this expression:

    lowest IQ of group member x {[1-(2 x ABAL of group)]^(number in group)}

    ^ means “to the power of”

    Having a power relationship is more descriptive of the interaction between group size and degree of inebriation.

    Playing math geek here…

  • mbecker908

    But then I thought simplicity would be better.

    In rethinking it, I was wrong and you’re right. Much better formula.

  • Achance

    “you ain’t got a hair on your butt if you don’t…”

  • rwlungren

    Excuse me but I and I believe many other Americans find that ‘MSM’ Term to be Extremely INSULTING. I suggest, in the future, you be not mimic those ‘Fools’ on MSNBC. just sayin..

  • rwlungren

    meant to say, …., you not mimic…

    just sayin..

  • http://dreamsfrommyforefathers.com RoguePolitics

    You know how it is with these conspiracy theorists.

    Tend to go off the deep end.

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