You lie.


2008:

“I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.”

2010 (bolding mine):

…since any Social Security plan would probably preserve benefits for those nearing retirement, it would not help the administration achieve its goal of reducing the deficit to 3 percent of gross domestic product, from 10 percent, within a decade.

One way to reach that 3 percent goal, by the calculations of Mr. Obama’s economic team: a 5 percent value-added tax, which would generate enough revenue to simultaneously permit the reduction in corporate tax rates Republicans favor.



More on the VAT here
. As ATR notes, the President has been trying to turn this read-my-lips into a pledge against raising income taxes. They want “President Obama to either immediately release the reported VAT calculations or deny such calculations exist,” although I don’t know why. Anything that we get from the man will just be another lie.

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Read My Lips. No New Taxes.

acat (Diary) Monday, April 19th at 10:06AM EDT (link)

This mantra, repeated frequently, helped bring an end to George H.W. Bush’s White House.

Too bad Obama is so long-winded – at least the Bush sound bite was succinct…

Mew

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self-portrait

Caveat Suffragator

 

How can you tell

wilfranc Monday, April 19th at 10:11AM EDT (link)

a politician lies?

His lips move.

Sorry, it was an old joke.

 

Before hyperinflation?

Greg (Diary) Monday, April 19th at 10:15AM EDT (link)

Or after Hyperinflation caused by POTUS policies?

 

Once again

indyjohn Monday, April 19th at 10:15AM EDT (link)

Obama is promoting new legislation that represents the far-left ‘foot in the door’. The VAT tax, if ever enacted, would start out at a low, innocuous rate, and then, when it did not generate projected revenue, would be increased incrementally until it reached European levels.
Beware of an Obama making promises! He never tells the whole truth. He always has something up his sleeve.
This is one more piece of evidence that Obama wants to destroy the free market in the U. S.

But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint.
Edmund Burke

 

I'm amused

redneck_hippie (Diary) Monday, April 19th at 10:23AM EDT (link)

at this president flapping across the fruited plain in order to further spellbind his minions with clamors for regulatory reform that doesn’t include Freddie or Fannie.

I’m amused by the fact that the majority of people do not trust this government, as shown in a NYT/CBS poll.

I’m amused and inspired by Michael Barone’s latest piece highlighting the disparity in the support of Obama between middle class voters and others.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_michael_barone/tea_partiers_fight_obama_s_culture_of_dependence

I’m amused by the fact that Obama has to pretend to be amused by something that indeed is troubling him and his co-conspirators.

Great job, Moe. especially the money quote: “although I don’t know why. Anything that we get from the man will just be another lie.”

Exactly.


Activists Taking Action: Unified Patriots

 

no no no way!

partyof1 Monday, April 19th at 10:40AM EDT (link)

Sep. 12 2008

“I pledge that under my plan, no one making less than $250,000 a year will see any type of tax increase,” he said. “Not income tax, not capital gains taxes, not ANY kind of tax.”

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/print/CTVNews/20080912/obama_ad_080912/20080912/?hub=World&subhub=PrintStory

ok

partyof1 Monday, April 19th at 10:58AM EDT (link)

I should have watched the video first but still.

It’s not just that his tax pledge was so clear, so unambiguous — he also made it many many many times.

Kind of like his position on not forcing people to buy insurance.

And his plege on earmarks.

Not to mention the C-SPAN health care pledge.

Obama is a guy that would rather lie than tell the truth.

davesinsanantonio (Diary) Tuesday, April 20th at 8:06AM EDT (link)

Like way too many on the Left. The truth is their enemy, and they avoid it like the plague. If he says no one will see a tax increase it means everyone will see a tax increase. He is pathological.

 
 
 

Obama wants to be thanked,

johnt Monday, April 19th at 10:50AM EDT (link)

“they should be thanking me”, the king says to his subjects.
I think we have a nut in the WH.

“a man’s admiration for absolute government is proportinate to the contempt he feels for those around him”. Tocqueville

What'd I miss on this one? Thank him for what?

gamechange11two Monday, April 19th at 2:41PM EDT (link)

Is this a reference to Pelosi’s claim that they’ve cut $800 bil in taxes? (mirage) What are the Taxed Enough Already advocates supposed to be thanking him for? His Pledge? (empty)

 
 

Obama lies

RedBeard Monday, April 19th at 10:56AM EDT (link)

In other startling news, the sun rose in the east today, gravity is discovered to hold things down, and Francisco Franco is still dead.

Standard-bearer for grouchy curmudgeonry since, oh, 1975 or so.

 

Except that it won't in any case.

Steph C (Diary) Monday, April 19th at 11:01AM EDT (link)

One way to reach that 3 percent goal, by the calculations of Mr. Obama’s economic team: a 5 percent value-added tax, which would generate enough revenue to simultaneously permit the reduction in corporate tax rates Republicans favor.

It won’t insure a 3 percent goal and it won’t make their social programs any more viable simply because the government can’t keep their hands off the money. It finds excuses to “rob Peter to pay Paul” which is exactly what happened with SS in the first place. When it was deemed a welfare program by the courts that spelled the end of the Ponzi scheme and Congress has not been able to keep their hands out of the till ever since. It was a doomed program from the start but Congress hastened the end rather than prop it up as claimed.

This is what happens when you put people who can’t control themselves into positions of power. In their moral relativist world there is no right and wrong, just who holds the power gets the greater share.

“[I]f the public are bound to yield obedience to laws to which they cannot give their approbation, they are slaves to those who make such laws and enforce them.” –Candidus in the Boston Gazette, 1772
Hillbilly Politics

You nailed it, Steph.

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, April 20th at 1:59PM EDT (link)

“It won’t insure a 3 percent goal and it won’t make their social programs any more viable simply because the government can’t keep their hands off the money.”

Never could; never will. The only way to reduce the deficit is to reduce the “size” of government, in every way imaginable. That includes reducing the government’s tax revenue.

Aren’t we lucky that Obama is instituting policies that will insure the reduction of tax revenues as the economy contracts. Too bad he’s simultaneously increasing government spending.

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977

 
 

the president's "out" is that he says

bags64 Monday, April 19th at 1:33PM EDT (link)

under “his” plan. he’s free & clear if he signs into law someone else’s plan, eh?

 

I keep asking

ss396 Monday, April 19th at 3:14PM EDT (link)

If the US Tax Code was 100% confiscatory, and in the face of there being no possible way ever again to increase taxes, would THAT bring an end to systemic deficit spending?

Sola scriptura, Sola fide, Sola gratia

No. nt

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, April 20th at 2:00PM EDT (link)

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977

 
 

Obama est. cap & trade to cost equiv. 15% personal income tax-FOI

katesmith (Diary) Monday, April 19th at 4:28PM EDT (link)

“The Obama administration has privately concluded that a cap and trade law would cost American taxpayers up to $200 billion a year, the equivalent of

hiking personal income taxes by about 15 percent.

A previously unreleased analysis prepared by the U.S. Department of Treasury says the total in new taxes would be between $100 billion to $200 billion a year. At the upper end of the administration’s estimate, the cost per American household would be an extra $1,761 a year.”
9/15/2009, from CBSNews.com. Obtained via FOI.

 

Good Old Soap...

pamela1631 (Diary) Monday, April 19th at 6:49PM EDT (link)

My grandmother used Fels Naptha soap to deal with someone telling untruths, tall tales, BALD FACED LIES!

Think the cleaning staff at the White House has some hidden in a closet ?

This republic was not established by cowards; and cowards will not preserve it. ~~Elmer Davis

I am stone forged from the fires of creation into flesh ~~Pamela1631

The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.~~Maj. L. Caudill, USMC (Ret.)

 

The last line

aohjeff Tuesday, April 20th at 11:09AM EDT (link)

The last line of the post says it all: “Anything we get from the man will just be another lie”. You can take that to the bank!

 

The last line

aohjeff Tuesday, April 20th at 11:09AM EDT (link)

The last line of the post says it all: “Anything we get from the man will just be another lie”. You can take that to the bank!

 

The Community Organizer LIES

tlhanger Tuesday, April 20th at 12:09PM EDT (link)

How could Americans been so bamboozled by this flim flam man? He just lies whenever he opens his mouth and he is destroying our country!

Terry L Hanger

 

The Obamapologists now insist that

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, April 20th at 2:12PM EDT (link)

“nobody believed that he literally meant what he said. After all, it just wasn’t possible to install all the new programs he wanted without raising taxes beyond the ‘rich.’ We all knew he was making a politician’s promise.”

Yeah, right. In fact, that was what John McCain, in his own inept way, tried to tell us during the “financial” debate. Yet, the 52 decided to believe Obi Won Kebama rather than Johnny Mac.

Too bad the apologists don’t actually make the full statement–when they’re forced to address the issue, they stop after the first sentence.

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977

 

Bill O'Reilly, on April 16, completely misrepresented

Flagstaff (Diary) Tuesday, April 20th at 7:42PM EDT (link)

Obama’s promises.

After Chris Wallace stated that “What the President said [Tea Partiers should be thanking him for reducing taxes] isn’t true…. I have here [shows a one-page report], from the Republican staff of the Ways and Means Committee, the President’s record on taxes since becoming President… he has increased taxes, enacted into law, tax increases totaling $670 billion dollars over the next ten years, including fourteen that specifically violate his pledge not to increase taxes on the middle class, people making less than $250,000 a year….”

O’Reilly replied, deprecatingly, “OK, but it all is sleight-of-hand because the President’s pledge is income taxes, and then there are other taxes, and that’s where they’re gonna really explode next year; I think you’ll see a national sales tax as well.”

Apparently he completely missed all those speeches that are typified by the video.

Buffett Rule #1: “Tax rates don’t matter if you don’t pay your taxes”
– Unnamed tax adviser to Warren Buffett, Leavenworth, KS, 2011
Buffett Rule #2: “A parrot in every pot and two Volts in every garage”– Jimmy Buffett, at a seance in Margaritaville, 1977