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Well, it’s official: Herman Cain has a problem.

By: Moe Lane (Diary)  |  November 8th, 2011 at 03:03 PM  | 

RESIZE: AAA

Mitt Romney decided to weigh in on it.

Mitt Romney today for the first time characterized sexual harassment allegations facing fellow GOP candidate Herman Cain as “particularly disturbing.”

“These are serious allegations, George,” said Romney in an exclusive interview with George Stephanopoulos that aired on ABC News and Yahoo. ”And they’re going to have to be addressed seriously. I don’t have any counsel for Herman Cain or for his campaign, they have to take their own counsel on this.”

I guess this means that going after Herman Cain now polls well.

See more at Hot Air: for my own part, while I agree with Ed here that Romney “missed a good opportunity to shut up,” I am reminded of a certain passage from Shakespeare’s Scottish play:

Porter: Knock, knock! Who’s there, in the other devil’s name? Faith, here’s an equivocator, that could swear in both the scales against either scale; who committed treason enough for God’s sake, yet could not equivocate to heaven: O, come in, equivocator.

Or maybe I’m reminded of something from CS Lewis’s The Screwtape Letters:

We have made men proud of most vices, but not of cowardice. Whenever we have almost succeeded in doing so, the Enemy permits a war or an earthquake or some other calamity, and at once courage becomes so obviously lovely and important even in human eyes that all our work is undone, and there is still at least one vice of which they feel genuine shame.

Either way: I am getting seriously tired of Mitt Romney’s shenanigans.

Moe Lane (crosspost)

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  • izoneguy

    Coming from a guy whose great grandfather was shacking up with four different women.

  • blooch

    Mitt Nomney’s VP anymore?

  • retire05

    Katrina Trinko is reporting at NRO that the Team Cain has sent this out in defense of Herman Cain against Sharon Bialek:

    “As Ms,. Sharon Bialek has placed herself in the public spotlight through making patently false allegations against Herman Cain, it is only fair to compare her track record alongside Mr. Cain’s.

    In stark contrast to Mr. Cain’s four decades spent climbing the corporate ladder rising to the level of CEO at multiple successful business enterprises, Ms.Bialek has taken a far different path.

    The fact that Ms. Bialek has had a long and troubled history, from the courts to personal finances – which may help explain why she has come forward 14 years after an alleged incident with Mr. Cain, powered by celebrity attorney and long term Democrat donor Gloria Allred.”

    Team Cain goes on to give a list of law suits in which Sharon Bialek was the defendent, NOT the plaintiff. Team Cain goes on to add other personal legal issues with Sharon Bialek, noting that if she intended to take legal action against Herman Cain, the statutes of limitation ended long ago.

    This is a defense? No “he didn’t do what she claims” claims? None? Instead, Team Cain tries to convey the impression that Sharon Bialek is a personal disaster that has been sued numerous times in court (most likely related to her bankruptcy in 2001) and consequently, if Team Cain can destroy her personally we have no other option that to side with a man who has had “four decades spent climbing the corporate ladder” as if that exonerates him based on his corporate success and using this success as a bench mark for exonerating Herman Cain. As if there has never been a CEO of a major corporation that has also been a slime.

    Herman, if this is the route you are taking, under direction of Mark Block who you should have fired when these allegations first broke, you are heading down the wrong path. Sheding light on someone else’s financial problems and not even bothering to deny the allegations is a fool’s path.

    Now, via The Daily, a UK publication, we learn who Woman #2 was. So, who leaked her name to The Daily? Ummmm, Team Cain, perhaps?

  • pttx333

    that since the alleged victim’s personal life is an alleged trainwreck, then he is above reproach, and she is in no way credible? Even if he is innocent and pure as the driven snow, that is the most arrogant, pompous a$$ tripe I’ve seen and makes him out to be a big-time cad who is mightily impressed with himself!!!

    Now, given his so-called defense, all it smacks of to me is that he is guilty on all counts! Sheesh! Sounds like the Kennedy crowd! I wonder how many geniuses in his group came up with that story? And he’s supposedly an outside-the-beltway kinda guy? Sure he is … uh huh … yeah, right. Given the mindset of the geniuses on his campaign (including Cain), there doesn’t appear to be even a smidgen of class in the whole lot of them. He’s done, he’s finished, it is over – THANK GOD that we know now!

  • papabear

    Cain was so busy trying to take Perry out that he never felt the knife. Now that Cain is firmly transfixed on the knife, Mitt let him know who was wielding it by giving it a twist.

    Sucks when you get played for a such a huge fool by the person that you have been a virtual right arm for!

  • onemovoter

    He also followed in Romney’s way in his interview last night.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/newt-gingrich-urges-herman-cain-to-answer-the-charges/

    I guess the love fest between Newt and Cain are over?

  • retire05

    right now Cain is on national TV claiming how he has been aggrieved by these women. But who led into the presser? Non other than Lin Wood, a high dollar defense lawyer from Atlanta with a very interesting record.

    It seems that Mr. Wood likes to sue people for slander. He represented John and Patsy Ramsey in the JonBenet case, suing the media for slander against his clients (and winning handsom sum, I might add). He represented U.S. Congressman Gary Condit (remember him?), the victim of Kobe Bryant and lawyer friend of Anna Nicole Smith, Howard K. Stern (Stern representing the very worse anyone could say about lawyers).

    So Herman, he’s done himself some lawyering up and has hired one of the most well known legal attack dogs in the nation. Why has Cain done this? Shouldn’t we expect Cain himself, and not his legal pit bull, to address this? If Cain become president, and he is attacked by Congress, will we hear from his lawyer, or him?

  • retire05

    right now he is being asked questions by the press and Cain is blinking so fast that he looks like he is sending out Morse Code.

    What’s with the “I then ‘recall’?” Is that a basis for a later claim of “my memory was not fully aware of XXX?”

    Shades of Bill Clinton. And speaking of himself in the third person drives me nuts.

  • carolina

    I am not a Cain supporter, but I find him believable.
    Ergo, I do not believe the women.
    I obviously can’t speak for other voters.
    However, I find myself more inclined to support Cain because I do believe he is being falsely attacked. I agree with his wife: ” this doesn’t sound like anything you would ever do”.

  • wennejunk

    and can be tossed under the bus.

    And no, he will not choose Cain as his VP.

  • retire05

    Please, one? OK. Two? Maybe. But five women, all claiming his actions were untoward?

    And how do you know Cain is being truthful? Where is the documentation on the internal review at NRA that Cain claims was done that showed the accusations “baseless?”

    Basically what you are doing is accepting Cain’s explainations on faith, not on proof, and deciding that all five women are lying.

    That is not acceptable. Not now. Not after Clinton.

  • tyman

    who have gotten divorced or are in the process because they found out that their spouse was a completely different person.

    I’m not saying that’s the case here, but it does happen.

    I think it’s terrible strategy to go after her personal problems vs. his climbing the corporate ladder that attempts to discredit Bialek just on that.

  • wennejunk

    How many men would act the same way with their wife as they would with an illicit engagement.

    I have no idea what Cain did/did not do, or his guilt/innocence – but when I heard her comments, I said ‘duh – of course he wouldn’t do anything like this at home, are you kidding?”

  • tarnishedroses
    to get their stories straight.

    Just like all of Bill Clinton’s accusers did.

    Mr. Cain, will you please step down?

  • txpat

    He is toast.
    My problems is if he lawyering up, then the story is going to continue to get air time, and he will be completely off message.
    I think he is trying to use scare tactics with these women, and any additional women who want to come forward.
    I also think this is good for the GOP as a whole.
    I think he needs to just go away, but he doesn’t look like the type that will just go gently into the night.

  • gracie

    His memory is off.
    I cannot believe I am watching CNN.
    No! maybe I can…Fox is in the turlet and Erick said that with Cain’s family not being there, the presser did not really put all to bed.

  • pttx333

    been on the phone with my former boss (still my current, though part-time) going over some business we are working on. FYI, I’m a retired (sorta) paralegal from a large firm in Houston that you would recognize. A legit firm, no ambulance chasing there. I have nothing but disdain for the ambulance chasers, the Allreds, et al., they are the scourge of the earth. I worked in the defense of huge companies (gasp!), typically oil or oil-related was my specialty, very large cases, usually filed by the ambulance chasers – so I know them well. Of course, there are also very legitimate cases, but the ambulance chasers are not involved in those.

    Got off-track there, but yes, I’m very familiar with all of the folks you mentioned – even Lin Wood. Condit? Oh, yeah, I still think he’s involved in some way, but at least he’s out of D.C. Wood and his ilk smell the deep pockets and here they come! I know how they operate.

    With Cain lawyered up, his standard answer is going to be that he can’t discuss anything, or the mouthpiece will speak or allow Cain to speak to certain things, but only with the mouthpiece sitting beside him and two of them “conferring” ad infinitum. Isn’t that just too special? I guess he could go all the way to the White House without saying a word of any significance.

    All I gotta say is that this is going to be a very interesting year, so we should probably stock up on tons of popcorn!

  • txpat

    not good for the GOP as a whole.

  • carolina

    The employee agreement doesn’t mean Cain did anything truly harrassing. He has a strong personality and some women are easliy (too easliy) ‘offended’.
    I think the Allred represented woman is lying. (yes, I have watched her)
    I agree with Cain’s wife: “this doesn’t sound like anything you would ever do” – which I totally agree with.
    As a female engineering manager I had a couple of employees complain to Human resources because of some comments I made – that were not ‘naughty’ and didn’t involve strong language. I did not intend to offend. Some people are overly sensitive and take themselves way too seriously.
    I’m not saying Cain never said anything someone found offensive, but I think he did not “sexually harrass”.
    I believe Cain.

  • rudyardkipling

    Cain’s verbal gymnastics in spinning what Romney meant by ‘disturbing’ were just silly.

  • pttx333

    He’s been coached by a team of lawyers on what to say, but there isn’t any way to control all of his body language. HA Oh, yes, the “I dunno” “I don’t recall” “Duuuuh” defense. Would that not then make him ineligible, due to senility, to run as Candidate/President role(s) for which he applying? Can’t have it both ways.

    Yep, speak in Clintonese, that’s the ticket! Pathetic, pitiful, disgusting, hypocritical …… feel free to jump in with any more adjectives …

  • bzip

    I can’t believe I am watching CNN too.

    Forget Fox, Forget Cain.

    I am sick of Cain’s and his sex scandals. We should be talking issues, policies and how to get our country back on track instead of devoting time to Cain’s sex problems and the mere fact is Cain is a complete embarrassment and unqualified to be President.

  • bzip

    Cain was pathetic in his press today and only left more questions unanswered. It isn’t over.

  • retire05

    is based on actual documentation of the claims against him.

    If you want to support someone simply on blind faith that they are not lying to you, that is your choice.

    And if you object to Allred, do you also object to Lin Wood who has become very wealthy suing news outlets over slander? Or is Cain’s shady lawyer just more acceptable to you?

  • izoneguy


    ?SHE IS VERY RELIABLE?
    Another Cain accuser only doing right thing, family and friends say


    Friend of Cain accuser recounts allegations

    According to the friend, the accuser worked in government relations for the restaurant association at the time of the incidents. Her friend described it as “well-known” in 1998 that Cain behaved badly. This friend recalls that the accuser only got up the nerve to talk to superiors about Cain after someone else had.
    “When one started complaining, it helped the others,” this woman says. “There definitely was somebody else [who had experienced the same behavior], and it led her to speak up.”
    At one point, the friend recounts, “They [association members] went to a conference in Chicago and I remember her coming back and mentioning some things that he had said, along with the innuendo of job promotion.” In the end, the friend adds, the woman did not get the promotion. “I think she was up for something and didn’t get it,” she said, adding that her friend worried it was because she had rebuffed Cain.
    Eventually, the Cain accuser went to her bosses and explained what was going on, the friend said.
    “She didn’t want to leave her job,” her friend recalls. “They gave her options. They offered her money. She didn’t ask for money. It seems like the Restaurant Association was saying, ‘Let’s get control of this.’ ”

  • californiagold

    There, I said what others are thinking but are afraid to say.

    The longer Cain remains in the race, the longer the scandal stays in the news. The other candidates are being ignored, and the republican party looks foolish.

  • pttx333

    see that is on point is the one that some women (translation: femi-nazi types) are easily offended, and, yes, some people actually do go to work for a company in order to “be offended” at some point to get $$. Other than that, not so much.

    Of course, Gloria is going to stand by her man. Is she going to go on national tv and begin to beat him with her purse or nearest object?

    As for Allred’s client, that could be iffy, but dear old Gloria hasn’t played her hand yet. Believe me, there are aces up her sleeve that she will reveal in time – she doesn’t handle anything unless there’s a lot of $$ involved. She’s personally laying out a lot of money now in order to get the big payoff down the road. That is the way it works. And she gets a lot of free advertising being on tv all the time.
    But there is no way that all FIVE women have lied. The odds just aren’t there. I do think that carolina firmly believes every word Cain says, but I also see where there is a lot of naivete involved on her part.

  • iidvbii

    The five gave him straight A’s for his presser. Am I missing something here? The guy has his lawyer come out first, give a completely worthless tour of his resume. Cain then denies denies and denies while claiming memory failure for details. States more are coming, wonder how he knows that. While of course referring to himself in the third person a half dozen times. This would be funny if it weren’t so sad.
    My take:
    The highend lawyer is a scare tactic, letting the women know he will sue for liable so shut up.
    The denials seem contrived especially when taken with all the details he only remembers when convenient.
    He might need to get a CAT scan, apparently he has memory issues.
    Where is his wife? My wife has stated she would be front and center with a few choice statements especially if I were “falsely” accused.

    Final take, there is something there. Is it all we are being told? Don’t know, but there is definitely something more than Mr. Cain is letting on.

  • pttx333

    go find the channel – didn’t know which one it was on.

    bzip, my gut tells me that all of this is by design by “someone” to deflect activities and/or shortcomings elsewhere. Not that Cain isn’t guilty of anything, I believe he is, but it has been hidden all these years and is now (gasp!) suddenly revealed. Someone with boatloads of dollars is spending a bunch of it on this – wonder how many folks fall into that category. Sure isn’t me!

    Lordy, politics is a filthy/fascinating/disgusting/interesting business, isn’t it?

  • gracie

    I am sick of it to but if we could get to the truth we could put it behind us!

    Too many women, two pay-outs, too many stories changing, too much shuffling, too LITTLE family standing by his side!

    Notice the new articles by EE below have pulled out some Perry supporters. I think he was challenging us to get our priorities straight; hope people will!

  • californiagold

    The Romney campaign,ie, Roger Ailes and Faux News, needs Cain in the race for as long as it takes to split the anti-Romney vote. If Cain is forced out, then either Perry or Gingrich will rise up and possibly overtake Romney. So when you see the Fox News cheerleaders continue to support Cain, you know why.

  • bzip

    I am afraid there is no putting it to bed because it really comes down to Cain’s word against 4 or 5 other women’s word.

    At some point it will go away from boredom but never answered and voters are going to have to judge themselves.

    In the meantime the GOP is being embarrassed, the issues are being muddled and we have to listen, watch scandals unravel with a guy that has no business even being a candidate.

  • bzip

    I would agree with your statements 100% and thanks for saying it.

  • aesthete

    That’s one serious display of hackitude right there (to be clear, I’m talking about the Cain campaign flack’s PR spin on this, not your post).

    Whether the woman accusing Mr Cain is a personal wreck is really quite irrelevant to the allegations. The party affiliation of her legal counsel is similarly irrelevant. If this is the tack that Herman Cain is taking, then he will lose and deserves to lose.

  • gracie

    different than last week. Last week the allegations were just hanging out there; there were the settlements but many explanations about how they could have occurred.

    This week we have two more people and one has come out. Regardless of how he tries to demean her she is a real person and what she is saying is way worse than” you are about the same height as my wife”.

    So we have a pattern and a failed press conference; he convinced no one, his wife and family were not there. Last week our own talk radio dudes were defending him; this week he is looking indefensible. Plus heard another one is willing to talk.

    Last week he was collecting pots of money, his numbers were holding; now, well, he actually looks guilty. So think his numbers will fall and he will have to get out of the way. All I ever wanted is the truth. These were not the real reasons I do not want him; I am sure you know what they are.

    So now I think we can move forward in the next few days and get back on track. Perry has been doing so great in his recnet interviews! Think people are starting to focus and listne to him! If he can communicate that tomorrow night we have a real chance here. bzip, you are one of his greatest supporters! Take heart!

  • retire05

    but so is Lin Wood. Allred is doing what Allred does; kept her name in the papers. Wood, well he seems to think he is the epitome of Race Horse. He’s not.

    Five women, with a warning from Herm today that there may be more, but they will be lying as well? Nah, doesn’t set with me.

    I am really beginning to think Herman Cain wants to keep this alive. He is bumping every other candidate from the front page, and remember this; negative publicity is publicity just the same. I think at this point, Cain is banking on garnering the sympathy vote. That will only last so long.

  • Scope

    Not one Cain family member or close friend has ever come forward to back him up. You would think that some family member would come forward to support him, even distant cousins. Are they all under “non-disclosure agreements” and barred by daddy big bucks from speaking?

  • clintonformccain

    I admire the acrobatic talent of Hummun Cain trying to parse the difference between a legal agreement and a legal settlement.

  • tarnishedroses
    Cain’s huge, campaign-ending problem onto Romney.

    It’s as if Perry or Cain could get caught embezzling money from a bank and the lead story on RedState would be focused on Romney’s reaction rather than on what actually happened.

    Deflect away, o wise one.

  • gracie

    He did well tonight. He was fair! We all thought Erick was nuts to go there but who knew Fox would go crazy?

    Actually CNN has a unique opportunity right this minute. With Fox in the tank for Romney CNN could pull a fast one and become the place to be. I think they would need an 8:00 conservative to be opposite Hannity and work on a few of the others but hey, I will watch the truth! Won’t you?

    I have moaned on other threads about even our media being against us. Makes me feel left out here…Perhaps things are changing. Anyway with Perry’s speeches and interviews improving so much I am cheering up! It ain’t over til it’s over.

  • Scope

    that the fight against Cain is racially motivated? He said that if he was tried he would be strung up on a tree? Lovely. Don’t ever go against a black candidate in either party because if you do, you are a horrible racist. This is so unbelievable that it is happening in the Republican party it is sick. Thank you very much Rush and Coulter.

  • tarnishedroses
    Cain has a John Edwards-sized problem. He should not expect even a cabinet position in the future.

    He needs to work things out with his wife, preferably in a place away from the public eye. I don’t want to hear what victim #6 has to say. Something tells me that if Cain doesn’t leave, NOW, we are going to hear an endless parade of people who were offended by his boorish, immature, and unpresidential behavior.

  • pttx333

    between the two and legions of others just like them. Scum bags, one and all. Race Horse was a totally different animal, though. In the legal world, there are certain reputations: the ambulance chasers are the lowest of the low; the trial lawyers representing real clients with true/real issues are totally accepted and admired; the one-lawyer offices and very small firms are small potatoes but have good reputations, except for a very few; the huge firms like where I worked are the primo firms, known all over the world for their legal prowess and totally honest dealings. It is a fascinating world, and one that I miss – even though it is a never-ending workhouse.

    You are on to something about Cain wanting to keep strutting before the cameras. He is a show pony, or believes that he is. The sympathy vote? Good grief, that is liberal tripe – I would never throw away my precious vote on such! Yep, it will last jjust so long before the slow thinkers will lose interest and move on.

    Herm said there may be more? What? Wow, if that doesn’t smell like guilty – how in the world would he know “there may be others” unless he had inside info? He really must be a serial kind of guy. Yuck!

  • avagreen

    ?the very same people who insist that we don?t know what actually happened all those years ago seem to know exactly what happened: nothing.

    Sexual harassment is now nothing. Welcome to the era of gender harassment denialism. The harassment skeptics claim that harassment, like racism, used to exist but is now over.

    Sexual harassment is now nothing. Welcome to the era of gender harassment denialism. The harassment skeptics claim that harassment, like racism, used to exist but is now over.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2011/11/herman_cain_s_conservative_defenders_are_going_totally_overboard.single.html

  • gekster

    It was not about Cains problems, it’s about Mittens response.
    Your Mom know you have her laptop.

  • 1bunny

    uninformed but what happens to the money Cain is raising during all this? Does he get to keep it? And if so is there any qualifications on how it is spent?

  • http://moelane.com/ Moe Lane

    It’s always appreciated.

  • papabear

    But even writing it makes me feel like donning a tin foil hat.

    What if Herman is truly Romney’s stalking horse? There is almost no way that he could do a better job bleeding money from the Anti-Romney crowd. He is also doing a great job in muddying the (R) waters – a situation that only helps Romney. When he is finished imploding, what will be left of anti-Romney??

  • pttx333

    to witness.

    Cain’s so-called defense is actually an offense and pathetically executed. He is a pompous a$$ is what he is!

  • iidvbii

    http://pjmedia.com/andrewklavan/2011/11/07/why-we-should-be-unfair-to-herman-cain/?singlepage=true

  • nathanalbright

    …anti-Romney still had Perry and Newt, and a lot of really disappointed Cainiacs.

  • txpat

    Man he needs to pull back some from this story.
    He still acts like Cain has a chance.
    I don’t see Cain being able to go any where with this hanging over him.
    Cain’s bleeding will continue, and the sharks smell blood in the water.
    This will not be pretty.

  • center77

    you are on your own bud, you made this bed, you sleep in it.

    Its time for people to start really letting Fox know we are not happy with their lies.

  • papabear

    I was approaching the Cain Train, but the closer I got, the worse the track looked. I never donated. I stopped reading Friends of Herman Cain e-mails and have requested removal from his list. If I get any more e-mails, they will be marked spam.

    I’m willing to listen to Perry, but I am leaning Newt.

  • izoneguy

    Wait, I thought Rick Perry did it?


    Cain Campaign Claims Son Of New Accuser Works At Politico

    Sean Hannity, host: “Have you confirmed that? I’ve been hearing that all day. You’ve confirmed that now, right?”??Block: “We confirmed it — that he does indeed work at Politico and that’s his mother, yes.”

    WRONG, Mark Block….there you go again…


    Josh Kraushaar is not related to Karen Kraushaar

    no, not related to Karen Kraushaar at all. Block doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

    For a presidential spokesman to go on TV and make up blatant falsehoods doesn’t speak well for his boss, either.

    Mark Block must get his facts from Internet comment boards, based on comments to @hannity. Not related to Karen K and don’t work at Politico

    The only positive benefit about being smeared by Mark Block on Hannity is I’m getting 100 new Twitter followers a minute.

  • nathanalbright

    …that the best defense is a good offense. Like Oklahoma State’s football team, they don’t think they have to stop anyone if they can score enough points and level enough accusations at others. No mea culpas, just shifting the ground of attack.

  • nathanalbright

    I’m leaning Perry personally, but there are certainly many in your position as well. The point is that ABR has options still, and a graceful Cain exit before women #6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12… come out and make this even worse might help some ABR consolidation to prevent any aura of “inevitability” from developing for Mittens.

  • capitalistpig

    in Fox myself.The only show I really care about on Fox is Red Eye.But the Ann Coulters,the Malkins,the Laura Ingrahms the Dick Morris’s are getting on my last nerve.

  • capitalistpig

    obsession with Mitt Romney/Herman Cain ticket is disturbing.

  • gator_hoo

    If not worse, because he is airing Cain advertisements, which creates a conflict of interest. Why would he speak bad about a candidate who is showering him with sweet, sweet ad buys?

  • gator_hoo

    but I was really caught off guard by her.

    Unfortunately, a lot of the “conservative” pundits actually have fairly RINO tendencies, but I have been surprised by how Coulter has gone to complete Shill for Rinos mode. Maybe because I never had more than a passing glance, and caught the wrong sound bites.

  • izoneguy

    I have some friends who proudly have displayed their Ann Coulter books….
    They just sold them at 1/2 price books.

  • harpsichord

    But I wouldn’t waste time arguing with champions of untowardary counting the ducks on the scales.

  • harpsichord

    from Huck!

  • http://lukos.com Ed54

    For 3 reasons: his Conservative principles, his Texas record, and, er, um, … ;)

  • nathanalbright

    …I’m sure once you get over your brain freeze you could think of a few more.

  • http://lukos.com Ed54

    One could be bad luck. Two could be a coincidence. Three is a pattern.

    I really liked Cain, but at this point he’s got more women problems than Bill Clinton. We would be IDIOTS as a party to nominate him with that baggage. He would get torn apart in the general election over this.

  • papabear

    I thought it was a joke in the beginning. Then it just stretched on and on. By the time it (sort of) ended, I wanted somebody to shoot ME and put ME out of my misery.

    When he said “OOPS” in panicked, semi-falsetto voice, I knew that the odds of Romney being elected just went up by another 10%.

    Four letter word!!

  • blooch

    offered to be anybody but Perry’s VP.

  • gekster

    you are talking to a ghost.
    I’ll lend an ouija board.

  • blooch

    when you reply to a week-old comment. Come to think of it, wasn’t he a retread, too?