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	<title>Comments on: President Obama: &#8216;encouraging&#8217;/planning to tax into oblivion start-up businesses.</title>
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		<title>By: superamerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>superamerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That President Obama would recommend anyone to start a restaurant business shows the disdain he has for all of us.  I am certain he&#039;s never been in the restaurant business (or any other) and only someone who hasn&#039;t been there would recommend that enyone do so.  I did so and almost lost everything I had at the time: house, cars, wife...Oh actually I lost her soon thereafter.  But I recommend you students DO NOT START A RESTAURANT.

BEEN THERE DONE THAT!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That President Obama would recommend anyone to start a restaurant business shows the disdain he has for all of us.  I am certain he&#8217;s never been in the restaurant business (or any other) and only someone who hasn&#8217;t been there would recommend that enyone do so.  I did so and almost lost everything I had at the time: house, cars, wife&#8230;Oh actually I lost her soon thereafter.  But I recommend you students DO NOT START A RESTAURANT.</p>
<p>BEEN THERE DONE THAT!</p>
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		<title>By: Common_Cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>Common_Cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ariyosef</title>
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		<dc:creator>ariyosef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[68 billion in 11 years is real close to 11 x  5.9= almost 65 billion so the extra 3 billion is likely just fed supervision...

Also, contemporary history lesson...   For over 3 decades, Japan&#039;s youth have, upon graduation, been so bad off (Literally living as bums on the streets) for years after leaving school...

We are there now!  Looking forward to decades of social unrest from &quot;lied to&quot; youth who cannot earn a wage.

As to encouraging &quot;entrepreneurs&quot; to create a new electronic toy...
It is like telling minorities they all can become millionaire athletes...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>68 billion in 11 years is real close to 11 x  5.9= almost 65 billion so the extra 3 billion is likely just fed supervision&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, contemporary history lesson&#8230;   For over 3 decades, Japan&#8217;s youth have, upon graduation, been so bad off (Literally living as bums on the streets) for years after leaving school&#8230;</p>
<p>We are there now!  Looking forward to decades of social unrest from &#8220;lied to&#8221; youth who cannot earn a wage.</p>
<p>As to encouraging &#8220;entrepreneurs&#8221; to create a new electronic toy&#8230;<br />
It is like telling minorities they all can become millionaire athletes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: arthurjake</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthurjake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For every unemployed college graduate that voted for him the last time there is at least one more uniformed student currently in college that took his place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For every unemployed college graduate that voted for him the last time there is at least one more uniformed student currently in college that took his place.</p>
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		<title>By: arthurjake</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthurjake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 05:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is called the GI bill. It isn&#039;t a hand out though it is an incentive given by an employer for people to come hire them. With gutting of defense to pay for entitlements I doubt near as many people are going to get the option to enlist. Besides it would involve people leaving there parents coddled care and missing out on drum circles.

How about just cutting down on student loans altogether also. I for one am sick of the federal government getting involved in higher education as much as it does.  Numbers don&#039;t lie and most people who start college never finish. Those who do end up with some kind of generic or otherwise worthless degree. What ever happened to learning a trade or on the job training? If your dream is to be a doctor, scientist, engineer or something else you actually need a degree for then by all means go to college. If not then learn a trade. 

That problem starts with guidance counselors, parents, media and everyone else who tells everyone it is the norm to go to college. If your a C student in high school you should probably go to trade school and not waste your time and money and everyone else&#039;s time and money pursuing that degree in cultural studies or underwater basket weaving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is called the GI bill. It isn&#8217;t a hand out though it is an incentive given by an employer for people to come hire them. With gutting of defense to pay for entitlements I doubt near as many people are going to get the option to enlist. Besides it would involve people leaving there parents coddled care and missing out on drum circles.</p>
<p>How about just cutting down on student loans altogether also. I for one am sick of the federal government getting involved in higher education as much as it does.  Numbers don&#8217;t lie and most people who start college never finish. Those who do end up with some kind of generic or otherwise worthless degree. What ever happened to learning a trade or on the job training? If your dream is to be a doctor, scientist, engineer or something else you actually need a degree for then by all means go to college. If not then learn a trade. </p>
<p>That problem starts with guidance counselors, parents, media and everyone else who tells everyone it is the norm to go to college. If your a C student in high school you should probably go to trade school and not waste your time and money and everyone else&#8217;s time and money pursuing that degree in cultural studies or underwater basket weaving.</p>
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		<title>By: checkmate2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>checkmate2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It?s stalling because, well, that?s going to cost us $5.9 billion and the money?s got to come from somewhere.&quot;

I&#039;m not trying to threadjack the overall point of changing the S corp rules to pay for it, but for the life of me I can&#039;t understand why a pay- for is even needed since when the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act was passed in 2010, the Senate&#039;s talking points said it was fully paid for per the CBO and would make student loans more affordable (see link below) and also in a letter from the president himself on Feb. 24, 2009, also see link below.

So if you read the two web postings below, one has to scratch their head and wonder how in the world the interest rate change will cost 5.9 billion more since the 2010 Bill was paid for and would not add a dime to the deficit. Don&#039;t tell me we were sold a bill of goods? Shocking :)

This from http://dpc.senate.gov/healthreformbill/healthbill61.pdf):
&quot;Together with the Patient Protection and Affordability Act, the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act will ensure that all Americans have access to quality, affordable health insurance and put students ahead of private banks. The Congressional Budget Office has determined that together, these two bills are fully paid for...  Historic investments in our economic future will make college more affordable and accessible through a transformation in student loan programs.&quot;

And this from excerpt from www.whitehouse.gov from Obama,http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/education/higher-education titled &quot;Making College More Affordable&quot; : 

&quot;Student Loans that Put Students First:
The education related initiatives funded by the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act are fully paid for by ending the government subsidies currently given to financial institutions that make guaranteed federal student loans. Starting July 1, all new federal student loans will be direct loans, delivered and collected by private companies under performance-based contracts with the Department of Education. According to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, ending these wasteful subsidies will free up nearly $68 billion for college affordability and deficit reduction over the next 11 years.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It?s stalling because, well, that?s going to cost us $5.9 billion and the money?s got to come from somewhere.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to threadjack the overall point of changing the S corp rules to pay for it, but for the life of me I can&#8217;t understand why a pay- for is even needed since when the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act was passed in 2010, the Senate&#8217;s talking points said it was fully paid for per the CBO and would make student loans more affordable (see link below) and also in a letter from the president himself on Feb. 24, 2009, also see link below.</p>
<p>So if you read the two web postings below, one has to scratch their head and wonder how in the world the interest rate change will cost 5.9 billion more since the 2010 Bill was paid for and would not add a dime to the deficit. Don&#8217;t tell me we were sold a bill of goods? Shocking <img src='http://www.redstate.com/moe_lane/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>This from http://dpc.senate.gov/healthreformbill/healthbill61.pdf):<br />
&#8220;Together with the Patient Protection and Affordability Act, the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act will ensure that all Americans have access to quality, affordable health insurance and put students ahead of private banks. The Congressional Budget Office has determined that together, these two bills are fully paid for&#8230;  Historic investments in our economic future will make college more affordable and accessible through a transformation in student loan programs.&#8221;</p>
<p>And this from excerpt from www.whitehouse.gov from Obama,http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/education/higher-education titled &#8220;Making College More Affordable&#8221; : </p>
<p>&#8220;Student Loans that Put Students First:<br />
The education related initiatives funded by the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act are fully paid for by ending the government subsidies currently given to financial institutions that make guaranteed federal student loans. Starting July 1, all new federal student loans will be direct loans, delivered and collected by private companies under performance-based contracts with the Department of Education. According to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, ending these wasteful subsidies will free up nearly $68 billion for college affordability and deficit reduction over the next 11 years.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: gagirl74</title>
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		<dc:creator>gagirl74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama loves to criticize and demonize &quot;Big Oil&quot; for their massively disgusting profits.  Well, have your heard Obama slam colleges and universities for their ever increases tuitions?   Has anyone compared the colleges and universities and their massive increases in tuition for the last two decades (or more) to all those horrible big businesses Obama hates so much?  Of course not!  Those are Obama&#039;s buds.  I bet if someone looked up the increase in professor salaries it would be astronomical compared to the average Mom and Dad who are struggling to put their kids through college.  Have they really added so much more to the curriculum?  Has there been a building boom necessitated on all the campuses?  And the price of books (many of which are written by sitting professors) has also gone through the roof.  Many times, a minor change will be made, requiring the next semester of students to buy all NEW texts instead of opting for used books.  I tell you, I think it is a racket and no one is looking.  The Marxists that run these places are simply enriching themselves at our expense.   Another way to spread the wealth.  Hmmmm....seems to be a repetitive theme here.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama loves to criticize and demonize &#8220;Big Oil&#8221; for their massively disgusting profits.  Well, have your heard Obama slam colleges and universities for their ever increases tuitions?   Has anyone compared the colleges and universities and their massive increases in tuition for the last two decades (or more) to all those horrible big businesses Obama hates so much?  Of course not!  Those are Obama&#8217;s buds.  I bet if someone looked up the increase in professor salaries it would be astronomical compared to the average Mom and Dad who are struggling to put their kids through college.  Have they really added so much more to the curriculum?  Has there been a building boom necessitated on all the campuses?  And the price of books (many of which are written by sitting professors) has also gone through the roof.  Many times, a minor change will be made, requiring the next semester of students to buy all NEW texts instead of opting for used books.  I tell you, I think it is a racket and no one is looking.  The Marxists that run these places are simply enriching themselves at our expense.   Another way to spread the wealth.  Hmmmm&#8230;.seems to be a repetitive theme here&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: checkmate2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>checkmate2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Magician-in-Chief! Way too many college kids &amp; other uninformed voters believe him and that his magic wand will fix all their ills. BHO must eat Lucky Charms for breakfast- &quot;magically delicious&quot;!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magician-in-Chief! Way too many college kids &amp; other uninformed voters believe him and that his magic wand will fix all their ills. BHO must eat Lucky Charms for breakfast- &#8220;magically delicious&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: gwbramhall</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwbramhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my proudest achievements was getting both my 
children through college @25 to 30M per year without 
having to resort to student loans.  When we asked about 
financial assistance all they would suggest was these 
loans with seeming free money with no payments or  
interest until after they graduated.  Somehow I saw through 
this and used a HELOC to finance the payments and pay 
it off before the next tuition bill was due. They both 
graduated with no debt overhanging and only trouble, 
a bent towards liberalism.  Now I recently read a column, 
I think by Ann Coulter, that poked fun at all the many  
ridiculous courses and majors that are being pursued 
which these high tuitions enable our children to take. 
Most are not worth a penny and certainly a student 
interested in these topics would be much better off getting 
a job out of High School and watching the Discovery  
and/or History channel for their education.  It would be 
free and they might actually learn something useful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my proudest achievements was getting both my<br />
children through college @25 to 30M per year without<br />
having to resort to student loans.  When we asked about<br />
financial assistance all they would suggest was these<br />
loans with seeming free money with no payments or<br />
interest until after they graduated.  Somehow I saw through<br />
this and used a HELOC to finance the payments and pay<br />
it off before the next tuition bill was due. They both<br />
graduated with no debt overhanging and only trouble,<br />
a bent towards liberalism.  Now I recently read a column,<br />
I think by Ann Coulter, that poked fun at all the many<br />
ridiculous courses and majors that are being pursued<br />
which these high tuitions enable our children to take.<br />
Most are not worth a penny and certainly a student<br />
interested in these topics would be much better off getting<br />
a job out of High School and watching the Discovery<br />
and/or History channel for their education.  It would be<br />
free and they might actually learn something useful.</p>
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		<title>By: obxdiver</title>
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		<dc:creator>obxdiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The idea that people can use S-Corps tax rules to shelter income and cheat the government out of revenue is a bold faced lie. As the AP article alluded to, the IRS already has the power to go after those that avoid taxes by keeping S-Corp income in profits and instead of paying it to themselves a salary.

Under IRC ?7872(c)(3)(A) and Regs. ?1.7872-5T, the IRS has the power to determine what you should receive as a &quot;reasonable salary&quot;. If this &quot;reasonable salary&quot; is not paid, they are then given the authority to reclassify  profits as wages and tax them accordingly.

The legislation in question appears to be using a problem that doesn&#039;t exist as an excuse to take more money from the productive members of society. 

As the bumper sticker says, &quot;Government Philosophy: If it ain&#039;t broke, fix it until it is.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea that people can use S-Corps tax rules to shelter income and cheat the government out of revenue is a bold faced lie. As the AP article alluded to, the IRS already has the power to go after those that avoid taxes by keeping S-Corp income in profits and instead of paying it to themselves a salary.</p>
<p>Under IRC ?7872(c)(3)(A) and Regs. ?1.7872-5T, the IRS has the power to determine what you should receive as a &#8220;reasonable salary&#8221;. If this &#8220;reasonable salary&#8221; is not paid, they are then given the authority to reclassify  profits as wages and tax them accordingly.</p>
<p>The legislation in question appears to be using a problem that doesn&#8217;t exist as an excuse to take more money from the productive members of society. </p>
<p>As the bumper sticker says, &#8220;Government Philosophy: If it ain&#8217;t broke, fix it until it is.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: rightlane1111</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightlane1111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I blogged on the student loan debacle yesterday.  Can Congress have that short of a memory concerning Fannie/Freddie.

Just a common person&#039;s look at what is going on in real America.  I get two to three calls a day from colleges asking if:  I want to go to school...my husband wants to go to school...my son or daughter (and they know their names) who do not live with me want to go to school.  Friends that cannot find a job...are going back to school...not with the hopes of finding a job...BUT TO SURVIVE day to day through the government subsidy called Sallie Mae.

Except for Conservative members of Congress...where are our leaders.  We have the model of failure...it is called Fannie and Freddie.

Someone has to help me out on this one.  Instead of the banks bundling these student loans...it seems like the government is doing all the lending.  There was one bank in South Dakota (from memory) that was permitted to loan money.  I might have read this all wrong...but it seems that this was all &quot;bundled&quot; in Obamacare...of all places.

As to the other point about starting a business...if these students get any kind of education...it&#039;s darn near impossible to live the American Dream.

This president is out to destroy America...where are our representatives?  Are they of the same mindset of the people mentioned above...getting the money they need to survive or rape the system?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blogged on the student loan debacle yesterday.  Can Congress have that short of a memory concerning Fannie/Freddie.</p>
<p>Just a common person&#8217;s look at what is going on in real America.  I get two to three calls a day from colleges asking if:  I want to go to school&#8230;my husband wants to go to school&#8230;my son or daughter (and they know their names) who do not live with me want to go to school.  Friends that cannot find a job&#8230;are going back to school&#8230;not with the hopes of finding a job&#8230;BUT TO SURVIVE day to day through the government subsidy called Sallie Mae.</p>
<p>Except for Conservative members of Congress&#8230;where are our leaders.  We have the model of failure&#8230;it is called Fannie and Freddie.</p>
<p>Someone has to help me out on this one.  Instead of the banks bundling these student loans&#8230;it seems like the government is doing all the lending.  There was one bank in South Dakota (from memory) that was permitted to loan money.  I might have read this all wrong&#8230;but it seems that this was all &#8220;bundled&#8221; in Obamacare&#8230;of all places.</p>
<p>As to the other point about starting a business&#8230;if these students get any kind of education&#8230;it&#8217;s darn near impossible to live the American Dream.</p>
<p>This president is out to destroy America&#8230;where are our representatives?  Are they of the same mindset of the people mentioned above&#8230;getting the money they need to survive or rape the system?</p>
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		<title>By: bruceinva</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruceinva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[is that profits coming from an &quot;S&quot; are taxed at ordinary income rates (25 to 35% or whatever), not capital gains rates.  There are many factors that determine income in a business that justify some of the profits not being attributable to the labor of the owner(s).  Talk to a CPA like me and we can work out what you or other emerging enterprises (hate that term &#039;small business&#039; because if it is your life, it isn&#039;t SMALL to you.) can do to legally minimize your tax burden]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is that profits coming from an &#8220;S&#8221; are taxed at ordinary income rates (25 to 35% or whatever), not capital gains rates.  There are many factors that determine income in a business that justify some of the profits not being attributable to the labor of the owner(s).  Talk to a CPA like me and we can work out what you or other emerging enterprises (hate that term &#8216;small business&#8217; because if it is your life, it isn&#8217;t SMALL to you.) can do to legally minimize your tax burden</p>
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		<title>By: ihateliberals</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihateliberals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People that aren&#039;t business oriented just don&#039;t understand the cost and the amount of Taxes a small business has to put up with.  Sometimes you fell like you are being taxed on paying taxes.  

On the subject of student loans.  i personally don&#039;t believe in them.  It &#039;s just another form of enslavement of the worker.  i paid my way through college.  It wasn&#039;t easy but when i finished i had very little debt. The reason you go to college is to have a better paying job.  The problem is with the loan program so many students come out with debt tht takes them a life time to pay off. In many situations i have sen people tht didn&#039;t go to college end up with better buying power than the people with the alleged better jobs.  so much of a graduates monthly pay goes to paying student loans that they have very little spending money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People that aren&#8217;t business oriented just don&#8217;t understand the cost and the amount of Taxes a small business has to put up with.  Sometimes you fell like you are being taxed on paying taxes.  </p>
<p>On the subject of student loans.  i personally don&#8217;t believe in them.  It &#8216;s just another form of enslavement of the worker.  i paid my way through college.  It wasn&#8217;t easy but when i finished i had very little debt. The reason you go to college is to have a better paying job.  The problem is with the loan program so many students come out with debt tht takes them a life time to pay off. In many situations i have sen people tht didn&#8217;t go to college end up with better buying power than the people with the alleged better jobs.  so much of a graduates monthly pay goes to paying student loans that they have very little spending money.</p>
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		<title>By: bobvious</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobvious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2012 01:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had to read it a few times, not being the sharpest tack. I have an LLC providing some of my income. Maybe I should be an S Corp? Finally I have a CPA, he should sort it out. But gawd I hate paperwork so much I may not want to refile.
Anyway..
from  the link I learn that S corps can pay out as wages or profits. Since only wages have payroll taxes (Social Security, Medicare), apparently business are underreporting wages in favor of profits. But payroll taxes for the selfemployed are 13.3% . Is this not less than capital gains? 

I am obviously missing something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to read it a few times, not being the sharpest tack. I have an LLC providing some of my income. Maybe I should be an S Corp? Finally I have a CPA, he should sort it out. But gawd I hate paperwork so much I may not want to refile.<br />
Anyway..<br />
from  the link I learn that S corps can pay out as wages or profits. Since only wages have payroll taxes (Social Security, Medicare), apparently business are underreporting wages in favor of profits. But payroll taxes for the selfemployed are 13.3% . Is this not less than capital gains? </p>
<p>I am obviously missing something.</p>
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		<title>By: renny</title>
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		<dc:creator>renny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no dog parts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no dog parts.</p>
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		<title>By: johnt</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to splash, we&#039;ll have to settle for yogurt.
On the issue discused, of course, rob Peter to pay Paul, what else?
But after the bribe to the new lost genertaion, students, expires you can bet your teeth the tax remains.
If it lives, tax it to death.
Progressivism !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to splash, we&#8217;ll have to settle for yogurt.<br />
On the issue discused, of course, rob Peter to pay Paul, what else?<br />
But after the bribe to the new lost genertaion, students, expires you can bet your teeth the tax remains.<br />
If it lives, tax it to death.<br />
Progressivism !</p>
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		<title>By: Locked and Loaded</title>
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		<dc:creator>Locked and Loaded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How long before Bamboozle offers a new program to pick winners from this latest crop of debtors - showering them with SBA loans as well?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long before Bamboozle offers a new program to pick winners from this latest crop of debtors &#8211; showering them with SBA loans as well?</p>
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		<title>By: wintermute</title>
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		<dc:creator>wintermute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[due to lack of granola.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>due to lack of granola.</p>
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