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National Popular Vote Plan Would Hurt Most States

Most states would lose power in U.S. presidential elections under the proposed National Popular Vote (NPV) plan now being considered by many state legislatures.

In support of the National Popular Vote State Compact, some states have already passed laws awarding all their electoral votes to the U.S. presidential candidate who wins a national plurality of the popular vote.  This bad idea would be constitutional because Article II, Section 1, of the U.S. Constitution gives the respective state legislatures the right to appoint presidential electors.  Congressional approval isn’t required.  The Compact would take effect if states with a majority of the electoral votes pass it.

Proponents of the NPV plan are now making a push to persuade state legislators to enact it, arguing that polls show Americans favor electing our presidents by popular votes rather than electoral votes determined by each state.  What proponents don’t mention is that 31 states would lose power in presidential elections under this plan.  Nineteen states would lose more than 20% of their power, and ten states would lose more than 40% of their power.

The accompanying table shows the effect of NPV on each state.

For example, New Hampshire’s four electoral votes amount to 0.74% of the 538 presidential electors.  Based on the 2008 presidential election, New Hampshire cast just 0.54% of the popular vote in the 2008 presidential election.  Under NPV, the state would have lost 26.58% of its power in the last presidential election.

If NPV had been in effect in 2008, Delaware would have lost 44% of its power.  Rhode Island would have lost 51.49% of its power.  Wyoming’s power would have dropped by 65.48%.  The pattern is the same for all the smaller-population states.

Gainers under NPV would be the larger states, but their gains wouldn’t be as dramatic as the losses for all the smaller states.  New York would have gained power in the 2008 presidential election by only 1.17%.  California’s power would have increased by only 1.49%.

In 2008, medium-sized states with many hotly contested congressional and state races drew disproportionately greater turnout than other states.  States where the presidential campaigns specially focused their national resources also had higher turnouts.  So in 2008, Ohio would have gained 17.25% in presidential -election power if the NPV had superseded the electoral-college system.  Michigan would have gained power by 20.40%.

State legislators should consider carefully the disruption NPV would bring to the electoral college system, which was a part of the grand compromise enacted at the 1789 Constitutional Convention to protect states’ rights and balance the power of the small states against the larger states.

In many ways, the constitutional separation of powers between the states and the federal government is being eroded.  The Founders never intended that the states should become merely administrative appendages of the federal government, much less that the United States become a unitary, centralized, plebiscitary democracy.  NPV would push America along that dangerous and originally unintended path.

Beyond preserving federalism, there are other powerful reasons to oppose the NPV plan, although Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, Vermont, Washington, and the District of Columbia have already passed it.

For example, NPV would greatly incentivize vote-stealing because big-city political machines would realize that massive numbers of fraudulent votes they could engender could swing the electoral votes beyond their states and be counted toward a national popular vote plurality victory for their presidential candidate.

However, for a change, this national decision on NPV is in the hands of state governments.

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Winners and Losers under National Popular Vote Plan

  • 31 states would lose power under the National Popular Vote plan.
  • 19 states would lose more than 20% of their power.
  • 10 states would lose more than 40% of their power.

 

2008 Electoral Votes % of 538 National Electoral Votes 2008 Popular Votes Cast % of 2008 National Popular Votes Cast % Difference in Power Under National Popular Vote Plan Increase or Decrease in Power Under National Popular Vote Plan
Alabama 9 1.67% 2,105,622 1.59% -0.08% -4.97%
Alaska 3 0.56% 327,341 0.25% -0.31% -55.68%
Arizona 10 1.86% 2,320,851 1.75% -0.11% -5.73%
Arkansas 6 1.12% 1,095,958 0.83% -0.29% -25.81%
California 55 10.22% 13,743,177 10.38% 0.15% 1.49%
Colorado 9 1.67% 2,422,236 1.83% 0.16% 9.32%
Connecticut 7 1.30% 1,644,845 1.24% -0.06% -4.56%
Delaware 3 0.56% 413,562 0.31% -0.25% -44.01%
District of Columbia 3 0.56% 266,871 0.20% -0.36% -64.02%
Florida 27 5.02% 8,453,743 6.38% 1.36% 27.18%
Georgia 15 2.79% 3,940,705 2.98% 0.19% 6.71%
Hawaii 4 0.74% 456,064 0.34% -0.40% -53.69%
Idaho 4 0.74% 667,506 0.50% -0.24% -31.90%
Illinois 21 3.90% 5,578,195 4.21% 0.31% 7.89%
Indiana 11 2.04% 2,805,986 2.12% 0.07% 3.61%
Iowa 7 1.30% 1,543,662 1.17% -0.13% -10.35%
Kansas 6 1.12% 1,264,208 0.95% -0.17% -14.78%
Kentucky 8 1.49% 1,858,578 1.40% -0.08% -5.64%
Louisiana 9 1.67% 1,979,852 1.49% -0.18% -10.49%
Maine 4 0.74% 744,456 0.56% -0.18% -24.05%
Maryland 10 1.86% 2,651,428 2.00% 0.14% 7.62%
Massachusetts 12 2.23% 3,102,995 2.34% 0.11% 5.03%
Michigan 17 3.16% 5,039,080 3.80% 0.64% 20.40%
Minnesota 10 1.86% 2,921,147 2.21% 0.35% 18.57%
Mississippi 6 1.12% 1,289,939 0.97% -0.15% -13.05%
Missouri 11 2.04% 2,992,023 2.26% 0.21% 10.48%
Montana 3 0.56% 497,599 0.38% -0.18% -32.91%
Nebraska 5 0.93% 811,923 0.61% -0.32% -34.04%
Nevada 5 0.93% 970,019 0.73% -0.20% -21.25%
New Hampshire 4 0.74% 719,643 0.54% -0.20% -26.58%
New Jersey 15 2.79% 3,910,220 2.95% 0.16% 5.88%
New Mexico 5 0.93% 833,365 0.63% -0.30% -32.35%
New York 31 5.76% 7,721,718 5.83% 0.07% 1.17%
North Carolina 15 2.79% 4,354,571 3.29% 0.50% 17.92%
North Dakota 3 0.56% 321,133 0.24% -0.32% -56.71%
Ohio 20 3.72% 5,773,387 4.36% 0.64% 17.25%
Oklahoma 7 1.30% 1,474,694 1.11% -0.19% -14.36%
Oregon 7 1.30% 1,845,251 1.39% 0.09% 7.16%
Pennsylvania 21 3.90% 5,996,229 4.53% 0.62% 15.98%
Rhode Island 4 0.74% 475,428 0.36% -0.38% -51.49%
South Carolina 8 1.49% 1,927,153 1.45% -0.04% -2.35%
South Dakota 3 0.56% 387,449 0.29% -0.27% -47.77%
Tennessee 11 2.04% 2,618,238 1.98% -0.06% -3.10%
Texas 34 6.32% 8,078,524 6.10% -0.22% -3.49%
Utah 5 0.93% 971,185 0.73% -0.20% -21.16%
Vermont 3 0.56% 326,822 0.25% -0.31% -55.94%
Virginia 13 2.42% 3,753,059 2.83% 0.42% 17.26%
Washington 11 2.04% 3,071,587 2.32% 0.28% 13.68%
West Virginia 5 0.93% 731,691 0.55% -0.38% -40.60%
Wisconsin 10 1.86% 2,997,086 2.26% 0.40% 21.65%
Wyoming 3 0.56% 256,035 0.19% -0.37% -65.48%
TOTAL: 538 100.00% 132,454,039 100.00%

COMMENTS

  • nvrepub

    nt

    • http://www.campaignfreedom.org Brad Smith

      That’s true, and that’s good, but it’s not really a cause for optimism. Fred Thompson has endorsed this. Saul Anuzis has endorsed this. It recently passed the Republican-controlled Senate in New York, and now has no serious obstacles to passage there. It passed the legislature in California in 2008 but was vetoed by Gov. Schwarzenegger – this year it faces no obstacle there. All around the country there are Republican legislators who support this, without having given it much thought. So it needs to be taken seriously, and the word spread.

    • http://www.campaignfreedom.org Brad Smith

      That’s true, and that’s good, but it’s not really a cause for optimism. Fred Thompson has endorsed this. Saul Anuzis has endorsed this. It recently passed the Republican-controlled Senate in New York, and now has no serious obstacles to passage there. It passed the legislature in California in 2008 but was vetoed by Gov. Schwarzenegger – this year it faces no obstacle there. All around the country there are Republican legislators who support this, without having given it much thought. So it needs to be taken seriously, and the word spread.

      • edintexas

        Say it isn’t so! Next thing you’ll be saying is we’ll be having politicians voting for bills without having read them. Oh, wait…..

        While NY does have a nominally Republican Senate, upstate NY is no longer particularly conservative, much less Conservative. It is a Blue state, and the Blue has been spreading from the NY City environs for a couple of decades (at least) now.

  • barleycorn

    The fact that some states “lose power” is not why NPV is a bad idea.

    The reasons behind the electoral college were serious and good reasons.

    Primarily the EC keeps huge states from having a disproportionate impact for purely sectional or regional reasons.

    In the current times the EC is also an important brake on the impact of corruption in each state.

  • Finrod

    Tell them to imagine the aftermath of the 2000 election, except that instead of it just being confined to Florida, the vote-counting and chaos being in all 50 states and DC.

    • schteve

      It is even less likely to have a close result when you add up the votes across all fifty states. Small changes in the number a candidate wins in any location isn’t likely to have an effect.

  • nvrepub

    …and our guy will win a blowout in the Electoral College in 2016 or 2020.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      .

      • Finrod

        If a number of blue states sign up for NPV and it gives the Republican over 400 EVs instead of the 300 or so that they would have gotten sans NPV, it could pressure the states that adopted NPV to give it up, since it would mean their blue state gave their EVs to the Republican that won the NPV instead of the Democrat that won their state.

        That’s the only good scenario I see coming from this, that NPV embarrasses the blue states so that they abandon it.

  • akafroman

    I think would be to have the electoral system allocate votes the same way as Nebraska and Maine. Those states allocate the electoral votes based on how many Congressional districts the president wins. It would make the popular vote people shut up, and still retain representation of individual states. It would make ALL of the states important to campaign in (not just Ohio, Florida, ect.), and it would certainly make election night much more interesting.

  • rick57

    I by no means want the east coast and California to decide who all future Presidents will be. Just look at the mess up and down the east coast and in California, on public debt.

  • schteve

    and there certainly are many–saying more populous states would have a larger impact on elections makes about the least amount of sense to me. It makes sense that states with more people should have more of an effect. Heck, as it stands right now, Florida is the only large state that even has any impact in the end.

    While this is pure speculation, it also seems to me like red states are a lot redder than the blue states are blue. In other words, Democrats might win a state marginally while Republicans win theirs (especially in places like the South) by much wider margins. This has the possibility to benefit Republicans if they can keep the Democrats’ margin of victory in large states down.

    • schteve

      that at present, only a handful of swing states get attention in the general election. Even if smaller states get less attention as a result of this, more states total will still be paid more attention than they currently get.

      • gekster

        from:
        http://www.uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/INFORMATION/electcollege_history.php

        Read the whole article and educare yourself.

        excerpt:
        “A third idea was to have the president elected by a direct popular vote. Direct election was rejected not because the Framers of the Constitution doubted public intelligence but rather because they feared that without sufficient information about candidates from outside their State, people would naturally vote for a “favorite son” from their own State or region. At worst, no president would emerge with a popular majority sufficient to govern the whole country. At best, the choice of president would always be decided by the largest, most populous States with little regard for the smaller ones.”

        The whole idea behind the electorial collage was to give the small states some clout, and not be governed by the whims of the larger, more populous states. In colonial times, the majority of population was in the big eastern cities, and they could have easily dominated the government with little reguard for the less populous farming states. The electotial collage gave them equal footing with these larger states. And also, in case you havn’t noticed it yet, we are a Republic, not a Democracy.

        • schteve

          “they feared that without sufficient information about candidates from outside their State, people would naturally vote for a ‘favorite son’ from their own State or region.”

          That’s obviously no longer a concern today. It makes sense before the age of information, but it’s a laughable notion by today’s standards. The article continues:

          “The original idea was for the most knowledgeable and informed individuals from each State to select the president based solely on merit and without regard to State of origin or political party.”

          That’s clearly no longer the case either. Most voters don’t even realize they are actually casting ballots to choose electors.

          It’s certainly desirable to avoid concentrating all campaign efforts in a handful of states. If that is the goal, however, I think the present electoral college is the wrong solution. The entire general election focus is given to 10-15 swing states.

          Believe me, I know that the likes of California and Texas would receive more attention under a popular vote. My whole argument is that I prefer that to the status quo. At least populous states have a reason to get some attention (they have the most people!).

          I do, however, disagree with the idea that most of the country will be ignored altogether. I cannot fathom how more states will be ignored under a national popular vote than the number that currently get ignored because they are safe for one party or the other.

          • gekster

            “At best, the choice of president would always be decided by the largest, most populous States with little regard for the smaller ones.?

            My whole point.

        • schteve

          At present, some people aren’t incentivized to vote because they already know which way they’re state will go. You might be surprised by the increased turnout in red states if this were to take effect.

          • schteve

            I meant increased turnout (by Republican voters) in blue states.

          • Aaron Gardner

            nt

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      You have learning to do.

    • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

      It’s come to my attention that you haven’t exactly had Republican interests at heart when making your recommendations anyway.

      So… yeah. No wonder your proposals make no sense. You want Republicans to lose.

  • gekster

    not a democracy. This is what we get when we don’t bother to teach the Constitution and American history in schools.
    Our kids know more about putting a condom on a cucumber than they know of the Bill of Rights. The leftist agenda shines on.

  • David123

    only affect Illinois’ electoral votes, so unless Illinois determines the overall winner, the Chicago dead vote is not critical.

    Under a national popular vote election, enough dead people in Chicago could always determine the outcome of the national election.

  • http://www.examiner.com/x-1597-Charlotte-Law--Politics-Examiner Mike gamecock DeVine

    prevents any party from winning a national election by running up the popular vote in one or a few large states. It limits the power of big cities.

  • acat

    As it stands, the Cook County vote decides far too many statewide races.

    Mew

  • wennejunk

    They just don’t like it and want it changed.

    I realize you are talking about the mindless masses, product of the broken school system and I agree with that.

    However, there are enough people who know and are working against it. They know an inflamed public (‘Mob Rule’) can be swayed to achieve things that will go over slowly (if at all) in our current Republic).

  • darcdante

    That’s the general idea, I figure. It weakens the influence the states themselves can have. The Left HATES individual states, because it makes it harder for them to shove their far left ideas down people’s throats in Georgia or Texas or Utah or any other sane state. The more they can weaken the states, the better for them.

    Eventually they’ll want 100 senators elected nationally, without any recogniztion of state boundaries. That way California and Cook County can pick everyone else’s senators for them, and we can all have happy Obamacare forever and ever, till the Government decides it’s too costly to keep us alive and decide to pull the plug.

  • ajshea

    You have to ask yourself, who would benefit from gutting the Electoral College? Not Iowa or New Hampshire. Flyover country would indeed become flyover country. Politicians would spend all their time in the big cities and ignore the rest of the country.

    I didn’t realize the genius or importance of the Electoral College until the 2000 election. I was in Africa and listening to Radio France International as they commented on the brilliance of the US Constitution in assuring that politicians would have to spend as much time in the smaller states as the bigger states! I have had a fairly conservative education and I had never heard this tremendous analysis.

    Education is the key. Once people understand the effect of the Electoral College they will realize who it is that wants it dismantled and why we must preserve it.

    To quote Inspector Clouseau, “nefarious purposes are at work”.