It is certainly true that the creationists cause the polical right more grief than birfers or truthers.

creationism anymore then Religion has proven it, so what you have is two distinct groups with their own “beliefs”. The bottom line on the birthers and the truthers is that when given the FACT and believe me the FACTS are that Obama was born to an American mother beyond that it is not relevant because if I had a child in another country I would most certainly believe that one day they could become President because of MY STANDING as an American. On the issue of the truthers and their belief that their very own government would allow the deaths of 3000K of their fellow citizens while killing thousands upon thousands to ensure that it NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN is to throw away all sane belief.

I think all of the investigating and all of the finger pointing that has occurred in the past 8+ years has shown that the one thing WE can prove about 9-11 is that AQ and Islamic extremism was at WAR with US for decades while WE treated them like gnats instead of the killers they were and for that WE all have been guilty for 9-11. I say all of us because WE continued to elect representatives who could not see the big picture anymore then WE wanted to see the bigger picture, in such WE were all blind to the coming horror.

I think your attempt to slander Christians while making an argument against creationism to bring about moral relativism with truther and brithers is DISGUSTING and for this non-Religious individual I hope that you are done away with as a warning to all others who would try this lame exercise in ignorance.

This is exactly the nonsense I was expecting. Two groups that drag the GOP and RedState down are banned, and the response is to equate those to every other “group” anyone can come up with.

But of course, these people aren’t birthers or truthers….oh no, they full agree with the decision….

They simply can’t accept that they aren’t mainstream.

So, the argument becomes…well, if I’m crazy everyone must be crazy!

[ facepalm ]

1Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. 2This is what the ancients were commended for.
3By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. 4By faith Abel offered God a better sacrifice than Cain did. By faith he was commended as a righteous man, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith he still speaks, even though he is dead.

5By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death; he could not be found, because God had taken him away. For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. 6And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

7By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.

8By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. 9By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. 10For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God.

11By faith Abraham, even though he was past age—and Sarah herself was barren—was enabled to become a father because he[a]considered him faithful who had made the promise. 12And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.

13All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. 14People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. 15If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

17By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had received the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son, 18even though God had said to him, “It is through Isaac that your offspring[b] will be reckoned.”[c] 19Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead, and figuratively speaking, he did receive Isaac back from death.

20By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau in regard to their future.

21By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons, and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff.

22By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions about his bones.

23By faith Moses’ parents hid him for three months after he was born, because they saw he was no ordinary child, and they were not afraid of the king’s edict.

24By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh’s daughter. 25He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a short time. 26He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward. 27By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king’s anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible. 28By faith he kept the Passover and the sprinkling of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel.

29By faith the people passed through the Red Sea[d] as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to do so, they were drowned.

30By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the people had marched around them for seven days.

31By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.[e]

32And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel and the prophets, 33who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. 35Women received back their dead, raised to life again. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection. 36Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison. 37They were stoned[f]; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— 38the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.

39These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised. 40God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

Hebrews 11 (NIV)

The evidence for macroevolution just isn’t there like you must believe it is. In any case, macroevolution itself fails as a scientific theory because just like creation, it is also unfalsifiable. I don’t personally care what you believe as far as that goes, but I do thank you for showing again the arrogant attitude of many (not all) evolutionists.

You must have an awfully high opinion of human reason and intelligence to believe that science is the all-knowing, infallible source for all things. You are familiar with the difference between observational science and historical science, aren’t you?

What you “believe” about the origin of the universe and life is your business, and there is room for both of us in the Republican party. On the other hand, you come across as an arrogant jerk in this posting, which may well not be true. You could have come up with a better way to say this.

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