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GOProud’s LaSalvia: ‘ I’m Embarrassed To Call Myself A Republican Right Now’

Many conservatives have come to GOProud’s defense after it was denied the ability to sponsor CPAC.  I was one of them.  The National Review‘s editorial board, Kurt Schlichter, Andrew Bair, and Jedediah Bila were some others.  Yes, CPAC was involved in the inexcusable outing of Tony Fabrizio, a Rick Perry pollster, in response to the governor’s ad about gays in the military – but that was two years ago.  It also didn’t help when Chris Barron, co-founder of GOProud, called ”CPAC board member Cleta Mitchell a ‘nasty little bigot.’”

However, these are petty squabbles compared to our ongoing struggle against the progressive left and their dependency agenda.  While I still think GOProud should be allowed to sponsor the event in the future, they’re making it difficult for the powers that be to come to that conclusion.  The Competitive Enterprise Institute, a CPAC sponsor, had a panel called “A Rainbow on the Right: Growing the Coalition, Bringing Tolerance Out of the Closet.” Of course, the Huffington Post was there to troll the event.  A Republican slammed his own party over gays – it’s a must-see for the liberal blogs.

 “I’m embarrassed to call myself a Republican right now,” Jimmy LaSaliva, co-founder and president of the gay conservative group GOProud, said at the Conservative Political Action Conference in National Harbor, Md., on Thursday. The gay Republican was referring to GOProud’s exclusion from participation at CPAC for a second year in a row, banned as an official sponsor.

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At the packed panel, attended by younger CPAC members, including quite a few conservative gays and lesbians, conservative commentators and activists on the panel who support marriage equality, including CNN pundit Margaret Hoover and Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin, made the case for gay marriage as conservative value. Earlier in the day Senator Marco Rubio, criticized those who would call him a “bigot” for not supporting same-sex marriage, underscoring the tension the issue continues to cause among conservatives. LaSalvia, for his part, however, agreed with Rubio, making a similar statement during the panel discussion and getting applause from the audience

It’s truly about what people think conservatives think of gay people,” LaSalvia said in an interview on my SiriusXM radio program. “Kicking us out of CPAC doesn’t help. People aren’t going to vote for you if they think you hate their family and friends.”

“How do we have a winning coalition in the future, in a world that has gay people in every single family,” LaSalvia continued, a day before GOP Senator Rob Portman reversed his position and came out for marriage equality because his son had come out as gay. “It’s broader than marriage equality. It’s about, ‘Do you support my loved ones?’ I think that a lot of the establishment leaders are out of touch with America and with their own base. There are a few folks in the establishment that don’t like gay people.”

As Breitbart’s Kerry Picket reported yesterday, the ACU and GOProud have a ways to go in settling their differences. “The minute the check hit the ACU office, there were forces on the ACU board that sought to keep us from being a sponsor of CPAC because we’re gay,” said GOProud co-founder Jimmy LaSalvia.  At the same time,  saying your “ashamed” of being a Republican does nothing concerning ameliorating relations with the ACU board.

So, let’s have a ceasefire.  The ACU should not exclude any organization, like GOProud, because they might be moderate on a SINGLE issue – and GOProud would make more inroads with the conservative movement by not saying they’re “ashamed” of it.  The ACU needs to understand that groups with some different opinions foster the intellectual debates that keep our movement fresh and modern.  It allows us to adapt our policy messaging and strategy to a changing political landscape.  As for GOProud, be patient, and keep pressing your organization’s platform.  They’re conservatives who support your cause, and it’s inevitable that you’ll be more widely accepted as younger conservatives take the reins.  It wouldn’t surprise me if more panels hosted by more organizations at CPAC  might – sadly– be part of the slow process to ending this distracting feud.  However, if GOProud continues to slam fellow conservatives, they shouldn’t be surprised if they remain at the kids’ table

COMMENTS

  • http://teapartisan.wordpress.com Loren Heal

    It’s not because you’re gay, it’s because you have banded together under the rubric of what is not, irrespective of what Jennifer Rubin might think, a conservative value.

    I have conservative friends who are gay (one of whom helped found GOProud). I also have conservative friends who believe in abortion. I myself have certain beliefs that are not widely seen as conservative. None of those is a conservative position, value, or attribute — and I use three words to say I don’t know the right word to use.

    But what I do know is that trying to change the definition of conservatism is the essence of what it means not to be conservative. Trying to force other people to associate with you by bullying them into accepting your position is not a tactic conservatives should adopt.

    It also doesn’t matter one little bit whether you call yourself a “conservative” or a “stalk of celery”. Your beliefs are yours, and no one else exactly shares them.

    If I believed that being gay an inborn or innate characteristic, then I would say that it’s covered under our civil rights laws, and those refusing to accept people for their different state of being would be, then, bigots.

    But there is no proof of that. So far, what we have are people who choose to live a certain way and demand that the rest of us accept it.

    • westcoastpatriette

      What you have described is why we cannot make peace with any organization that fights against us tooth and nail on traditional values.

      Conservatism is clearly defined as conserving traditional values. Those who demand that we accept their view on homosexuality and abortion — and insist that they are conservative Republicans — make themselves our enemies when they attack our views and work against us politically. It’s just that simple to me. You cannot be for something and against something at the same time. Just like they want to change the definition of marriage, they also want to change the definition of conservative. It’s just one more tactic to weaken conservatism at its core.

      • Finrod

        Consider that Grover Norquist, who has fought the hardest to keep GOProud out of CPAC, may have done a lot of good pestering congressmen to take his no-tax pledge, but he also has defended radical Islam from criticism (see: Pamela Gellar) in a very non-conservative way.

        • streiff

          I think by referring to Grover Norquist you make a very good case for why we should not accept “80%” supporters as allies. Do we want to be associated with a guy who is allied with various islamic groups who support people killing our guys in Iraq and Afghanistan?

          • Repair_Man_Jack

            You do have to look into exactly what the 20% is. If they’re 80% your buddy until they disagree with you on Solyent Green distribution, they are still anutjob.

    • lineholder

      Nothing against you, Loren, but I’m still pretty steamed about the situation with Bruce Carroll making a run at Graham’s seat. We actually might have had a chance to get Graham out of there. All we needed was someone who was a strong traditionalist who could beat Graham on fiscal issues.

      Carroll is not a strong traditionalist. Not even close.

  • midwestconservative

    what is the purpose of GOProud, is it to simply gather gay conservatives, or is it like the Log Cabin Republicans, there to advocate gay marriage, we are not advocating gay marriage and not going to, and Jennifer Rubin barely constitutes as a conservative

    • Finrod

      The purpose of GOProud is not to get conservatives to identify as gay, it’s to get gays to identify as conservatives. Go read GOProud’s What We Believe and ask yourself, how many of those items do you have in common with them? Then ponder Ronald Reagan’s statement: “The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor.”

      • streiff

        depends on what the 20 percent is… and if indeed it is 20% and not 100%. So if I disagree with you on pedophilia but am also pro-Second Amendment and anti-tax I’m an ally?

        Ask yourself what GOProud would be if it weren’t fixated on whose privates to stick where.

        • timmcg

          Pedophilia is so extreme that I don’t think it helps your argument.

          It’s like Hitler.

          If you have to bring Hitler into your argument over domestic policy to win, you probably don’t have a very good argument.

          • westcoastpatriette

            So, in your view, men having sex with men is not extreme? My, how the mighty have fallen.

          • Ender

            For most people of the western civilization it is no longer extreme. It’s an irreversible path. People just don’t care anymore.

          • westcoastpatriette

            How about you speak for yourself and leave “most people of the western civilization” out of your distorted view. I doubt that many of them would nominate you as their spokesperson.

          • Ender

            You must’ve missed the trends in both US and Europe. It’s clear as day. Backed up by polling and statistics. What do you have that contradicts what I said? And personally I couldn’t care less about what gays do. I am not being forced to watch it or talk about it.

          • westcoastpatriette

            Trends? All I see is propaganda by the gay lobby pushers. See right through it, too. Oh, and I guess because you said it, it must be true. Ha!

          • Ender

            A new Washington Post/ABC News poll shows that 58% of Americans support allowing same-sex couples to have the same right as heterosexual couples to marry, which is an all-time high for support for gay marriage, while 36% of Americans opposed.

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/18/gay-marriage-support-hits-new-high-in-post-abc-poll/

            Or maybe you think this is just part of the propaganda. Like the polls that showed Obama ahead of Romney.

          • westcoastpatriette

            Polls lie all the time and are not a true reflection of what is happening in the country of real Americans. You’ll see. By the way, is your screen name meant to promote your lifestyle? If so, how crude. You really don’t belong in civil society.

          • Ender

            Ah, what’s the point. You are in your own world…

          • westcoastpatriette

            Thanks for the clarification. Wouldn’t want anyone to think you were in the pocket of the homosexual lobby.

          • Jack_Savage

            Glad you are able to read a weather vane, and adjust your principles accordingly. Lots of help for the cause. Thanks.

          • lineholder

            Principles? Forget principles. Principles are for fuddy-duddy traditionalists, Jack. They want to become the other-popularity-party that opposes the popularity-party on the left.

          • Jack_Savage

            So much to give away, so little time. Since the GOP doesn’t like to give away money, I guess giving away principles will do in a pinch.

          • Ender

            Opposition to gay marriage was never one of my deeply held principled views. The reality is, this issue doesn’t affect anything of importance in our nation. It’s a side show. Why spend time and effort on a losing issue that only hurts the party more and more with absolutely no improvement possible?

          • Jack_Savage

            It depends on what you feel is important. Family structure, civil society and the welfare of children are pretty high on my list. You can see the effects of the breakdown of the family by stepping out of the house and looking around each morning. Or if that doesn’t do the trick, spend a morning in a public school.

            You can’t be a Cafeteria Conservative – a little of this, none of that, most of this other. We’re not set up as a collection of aggrieved minorities. Either you are conservative or you aren’t, and either you will fight or you won’t. Simple as that.

          • Jack_Savage

            “And personally I couldn’t care less about what gays do. I am not being forced to watch it or talk about it.”

            Not yet. And that’s the point.

          • timmcg

            I think there is an enormous gulf between what two consenting adult men do in private & the rape of children.

            In the first case, I don’t believe the government should be allowed into those adult men’s bedroom and determine what they can and can’t do.

            In the second case, I want the adults to rot in jail for the rest of their miserable lives.

          • lineholder

            But apparently you do think those men can use government for the sake of legislating approval of what they do in their bedroom?

            Same principle that applies with the “unrestricted reproductive freedoms” women on the left claim to be a “right” and have government intervene on their behalf for the purpose of legislating their “freedoms” and their “rights” applies in the case with gays seeking to use government to alter the definition of marriage.

          • Jack_Savage

            I think they are very, very close on the spectrum of sexuality. Very close.

      • http://www.hakubi.us/ Neil Stevens

        There’s no evidence they’re actually doing GOP outreach into the gay community though. All they’re ever actually doing is bashing Republicans while promoting a radical agenda.

      • kipling

        What conservative issue has GOProud led the way on since its inception?

  • kipling

    First, we need to clear up a lie that GOProud continually promotes in order to appear the victim and play the sympathy card. They were never banned from CPAC. The ACU simply did not allow them to sponsor the event. They were still allowed to attend – as it apparent by the fact that GOProud was on a panel at CPAC. The Huffington Post advanced this lie when they wrote of “GOProud’s exclusion from participation at CPAC.” Ironically, the subject of the Huffpo article was what was said at a panel GOProud participated in at CPAC. Mr. LaSalvia also advances this lie when he said they were kicked out of CPAC.

    Second, GOProud’s application to sponsor CPAC was rejected because they had previously used their sponsorship to attack conservatives that did not agree with them on gay marriage. While a sponsor at CPAC, they attacked Liberty University, the Heritage Foundation, the Family Research Council, and various conservative leaders like Jim Demint, Cleta Mitchell, Rick Perry, etc. If you read their press releases, you will find several others. Andrew Breitbart left their board of directors because of the stunt they pulled in outing Tony Fabrizio. Erick Erickson wrote an excellent column on this at the time.

    Third, GOProud is not a conservative organization. They have not helped to advance any conservative cause – despite what their press releases and fundraising mail says. Their primary goal is to disguise homosexual marriage as a conservative cause and to attack other conservatives who disagree with that objective. If I am wrong, then please point out the conservative cause they have advanced.

    Fourth, GOProud has shown a willingness to put their homosexual agenda over other conservative issues. They support the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act. They undermined defense issues by supporting Harry Reid’s repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell in a lame duck Democratic controlled session of Congress. They will not accept civil unions. Mr. LaSalvia made that clear several years ago in an interview with Breitbart news. They do not want the government out of the marriage issue.

    In short, GOProud’s sole purpose is to make homosexual marriage a conservative issue and drive out conservatives who happen to disagree with that objective. Mr. LaSalvia and Mr. Barron raise a lot of money and get a lot of press for their attacks on traditional conservatives. As far as I can tell, none of that money goes to any conservative cause. Most of it is used by GOProud to push their homosexual agenda and attack conservatives so they can continue to raise funds and get press coverage by the MSM. No conservative should see GOProud as anything but a Trojan horse within our midst.

  • agooglyminotaur

    This is that one issue where I just don’t see what everyone’s in a fuss about. I’ve never hid that I’m first and foremost an economic conservative, so I just don’t get as worked up about all the social issues. Yes, I’m right there with the party on abortion, but when it comes to gay marriage I just don’t care.

    Why do we care if the queers get married again? I don’t. Put ‘em in dresses and march ‘em down the aisle, see if I care. It has nothing to do with the budget, the debt crisis, wealth redistribution, energy security, all the actual issues that face the country. I just don’t care and I don’t understand why so many people do. But that’s just me.

    • streiff

      this is a pretty juvenile comment. Why do I care about the “debt crisis” when the Chicoms will buy all the debt we print (gee we get their goods and our money and they get our debt and this is a BAD deal?)? If the government wanted to it could simply repudiate our debt and start fresh and no one could afford to do anything about it, much less the Chicoms, because they need to sell stuff to us and there is no other economy on earth that can soak up their cash.

      The only reason I care about your silly issue is that I am counting on you to care about mine. If you don’t care, then what does it cost you to support me because that is where I am on fiscal issues.

    • kipling

      The destruction of traditional marriage has been shown to lead to increased government spending and oversight to make up for the loss of the family. When LBJ’s Great Society destroyed the black family, the government stepped in to fill the role and spending increased.

    • cbartlett

      One reason to get worked up about this issue is the potential for lawyers to treat gays as a protected class if they have “the law” behind them. They can force you to hire a certain percentage in your company or face discrimination charges. They can use “the law” to file lawsuits for all sorts of protections and discriminations for equal this and equal that. You think it’s bad that Catholic schools and charities have to provide birth control that goes against their beliefs? Wait until your child’s daycare is sued because they didn’t hire a gay person. You may not have a problem with an openly gay person helping to raise your kids, but I’d prefer to have the choice to not have my grandson exposed to that. You think white males can’t get jobs they deserve right now because there aren’t enough females or a certain minority or people in a certain age group? How about adding one more “group” in there to keep you from getting a job? Really?

      I believe God condemns homosexuality and in no way should we be “condoning” the behavior by legalizing that kind of relationship, but I, like you, used to think we should just leave this issue alone also simply because we are losing a lot of potential conservative voters over the issue. I know a lot of younger (20 & 30-something) voters who have grown up in a society that has taught them a lot more tolerance for these social issues than my generation did. These younger voters have a “take it or leave it” attitude about gay marriage and think Republicans are losing ground with it. We need to do a much better job of discussing the economic consequences of legalizing gay marraige, as well as how laws like this infringe on our liberty and choices. Less government, less laws, less regulations, not more should always be the goal.

      • lineholder

        As to younger voters, that can depend on where they live. I have three children, early thirties to middle twenties. Oldest and youngest are strong traditionalists. Middle child…not so much. Ask any of them what kind of traits they believe are best for society and what kind of mentality they would want to see in someone elected to office, and all three of them, even the one in the middle, will say, without any hesitation, that preserving traditional values is the best way to go.

        All three live in SC. They grew up in SC, moved away, then within a few years came back to their home state. The environment matters…at least to them it does. For their families. For future generations. And you couldn’t persuade them to think otherwise if you wanted to. They’ve seen enough of the world to make up their own minds.

  • lineholder

    What’s really embarrassing is watching our new media turn into blithering idiots on the issue of supporting gay conservatives and pandering to special interest groups.

  • Ender

    Wierd… Not sure why this sometimes posts as enderwi when it’s supposed to post as Ender.

  • Jack_Savage

    “….marriage only being between a man and a woman is an endangered species…”

    “… teen pregnancies, high rate of divorce, adultery, parental
    irresponsibility, horrendous public schools, etc etc have very
    significant parts to play in the deterioration of our society…”

    First of all, 2 + 2 = 4. Think about it.

    As far as the secularization of America, perhaps the trend is going that way on the national level in terms of the Presidency and media. But I think that when you drill down to the heart of America, outside the festering cities and places like California, you see not only acceptance of traditional values but an embrace of those values, and a rejection of the secularization that is being rammed down our throats. Society moves away from traditional values at its peril (i.e. Detroit, The Netherlands, Great Britain).

    The LGBT agenda may seem like it is gaining ground, but it is only a matter of time before someone’s teacher is a man dressed as a woman, or the mayor is seen making out with his “husband”, or a guy dressed in only leather chaps isn’t really all that cool any more and viewed as what it is – weird.