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How Obama treats us and how we treat Obama

A contrasting of stories

By now it’s become a Known Fact™ that supporters of Senator John McCain and Governor Sarah Palin shout nasty things about Senator Barack Obama at rallies, and have gone so far as to call for the Democratic nominee’s death. Obama has even attacked McCain for it.

This of course means it’s not true. The Secret Service is as non-partisan a group as you will find, and they deny it. Why didn’t Obama ask them before spouting off, as Newsweek’s Mark Hosenball did for the magazine’s October 27 issue:

[E]ven before Obama cited ‘reports’ of the threats at the debate, the U.S. Secret Service had told media outlets, including NEWSWEEK, that it was unable to corroborate accounts of the ‘kill him’ remarks – and according to a law-enforcement official, who asked for anonymity when discussing a political matter, the Obama campaign knew as much.

Obama in the last debate attempted to shame McCain for the alleged behavior of Republican supporters. Will Obama now claim responsibility for how his supporters treat Palin? Because there are pictures of misbehavior for him to apologize for and condemn, if he wants.

Or will Obama deny what Gateway Pundit found (be warned that the pictures are not family friendly): organized Obama supporters wearing the same t-shirt, with unmistakable bold green lettering calling Sarah Palin a crude sexual epithet I will not repeat here. Others holding signs used expletives to show a distaste for women who show an interest in sports. Presumably in Barack Obama’s America, women who are Governors and care about hockey just are not welcome, so that’s why the Obamanauts are getting in Palin’s face on command.

Again, it wasn’t just one lone person. This was an organized movement. Will Obama apply to himself the ‘logic’ he applied to McCain, and take full responsibility for whipping up in his supporters a sentiment of hostility towards women? After all, his critics claim he’s been using coded language against women since the primary races against Senator Hillary Clinton.

Are you creating a climate of hostility toward women who step out of the home, Senator Obama? If so, when will you stop? If not, when will you return the money of those who do, and throw them out of any volunteer or paid position within your and your party’s campaign efforts?

COMMENTS

  • joeljournal

    …and there was not a single negative thing said by anyone.

    Everyone was just happy to be there.

    She got a lot of applause by saying we don’t have to apologize for being American.

    If that offends you, I guess you ought to wonder why…

  • Vegas_Rick

    Over the top and seriously objectionable actions by supporters are only objectionable if they are directed at the Messiah.

    When they are directed at the McCain/Palin ticket, they are… well… to be expected. :)

  • RoxannaDanna

    This is the topic I’ve been hoping to see.

    According to the Obama camp:

    Racism is bad.
    Misogyny is non-existant.

    And what’s worse, I’ve heard the same kind of woman-hate from other women, for instance those on The View. (Mind you, I can proudly say that I’ve never watched that show but have seen clips on the news.)

  • Menlo

    The Secret Service is as non-partisan a group as you will find, and they deny it.

    By the looks of it, the Secret Service is in the tank for Obama.

    The left just hasn’t yet found someone to accuse of shouting such remarks. Rest assured when they do, they need no evidence of it to get Secret Service involved.

  • RoxannaDanna

    Obama uses code words alot.

    Bamboozeled and hoodwinked both come straight out of a Malcolm X speech. Obama used both of those words in a single sentence when he spoke to a predominately black audience. A white audience wouldn’t pick up on the hidden meaning and don’t.

  • Jaded

    that Obama FEELS no need to reprimand the nastiness that infects his entire campaign from him on down.

  • RoxannaDanna

    Is there a possiblity that they weren’t really Secret Service agents but instead, Obama operatives sent out to intimidate her?

    I have to wonder…

  • RPZip

    …is not ‘data’.

    That applies to both sides, of course. But going to a rally where nothing negative happened means precisely nothing, any more than going to an Obama rally where nobody called Palin something obnoxious means something.

    With that said… nutjobs are nutjobs, but there isn’t a whole degree of separation between a t-shirt saying that Palin is a C%%t or Obama is a N%%%er. I’ve seen both t-shirts; they’re both equally moronic, but I don’t blame Obama or McCain for not speaking out against them. There are people who are just loons.

    With that said, there is a pretty significant difference between someone wearing an offensive t-shirt and someone yelling “kill him” at a rally. The Secret Service can’t corroborate the specific guy yelling a threat, but it’s pretty clear on the video; not being able to find the loon doesn’t mean he didn’t exist.

  • Neil_Stevens

    Clearly the experts on Presidential assassination threats disagree.

  • c17wife

    supporters.

    “..Sunday, October 19 – Filed by Mark Williams in Raton, New Mexico with the Stop Obama Tour) We learned at this morning?s Stop Obama Rally here that the McCain/Palin Straight Talk Express came through town yesterday. It arrived with a window shattered by a .22 caliber weapon. It had also been hit by an unknown number of paint balls from a paint ball gun or guns. There were reportedly no injuries and neither candidate was on board.
    One local man who saw the damage and spoke with the McCain/Palin staffers said the attack(s) had occured in southern New Mexico that same day. The Express is traveling the country independent of the candidates, handing out campaign materials.
    Sarah Palin is stumping in of all places Roswell, New Mexico today and then roughly back the way we came with an event at the Henderson, Nevada Pavilion tomorrow and a stop in Elko, Nevada.
    Follow the Stop Obama Tour at Our Country Deserves Better.”

    I wonder when it all stops? Nov 4th if he wins? Or when someone is finally killed?

    BTW-head on over to this website and give these gusy some money, go to one of their rallies, or just leave them some encouragement.

    http://www.ourcountrydeservesbetter.com/

  • blogan

    Why didn’t McCain call out Obama on his supports? The ones that aren’t “yelling” things, but the ones that are throwing Molotov cocktails at McCain signs.

  • RPZip

    Video

    About 11 seconds in.

    It looks like McCain heard the comments too based on his facial expression (note: the frown), although I couldn’t say for sure.

  • c17wife

    code wrods mean. They are vile and divisive. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • Jaded

    nt

  • Black_Water

    I actually laugh at McCain’s expression each time I see this. His expression is priceless, like he knows the person said something so stupid he couldnt possibly be pinned with it. The man is obviously uncomfortable with what some of the nutjobs are saying at the rallies. I dont like being painted the same way as these pyschos who scream things but ive heard it, this most certainly and tragically has happened.

    I also think “unable to corroborate accounts of the ‘kill him’ remarks” doesnt mean it hasn’t happened. Corroborating would mean they would have found the person.

  • Moe_Lane

    “…from doing hateful things.”

    Be sure to brag to the woman closest in your life how you defended Obama’s honor today. Be specific, in fact.

    Blam.

  • Moe_Lane

    The correct answer to this sort of thing is “Ugh.” Not “Yes, but…” I mention this only because certain Obama supporters seem to have fallen into rather bad and misogynistic habits during their primary, and I have no intention of letting their regressive behavior infest this site, now that we’re in the general.

  • speciallist
  • 2006_personoftheyear

    …that is, which side’s people say worse things about the other, I don’t see how one could conclude one side is being worse. There are always a million anecdotes, and of course each side is more sensitive to the accusations lobbed against them. I tend to just call it a wash. To quote from Friday Night Lights (the book not the movie) “There’s the same cross-section of [redacted] everywhere.”

  • Black_Water

    Quickly, GET INTO THE WOODS!

  • Moe_Lane

    Attacking campaign headquarters?

    Apparently shooting at campaign buses, (although I haven’t checked that one out yet)?

    Please, by all means, provide us with examples where Obama supporters are being attacked violently.

    In fact, make that your next post.

  • RoxannaDanna

    and while I’m asking, what is moby?

  • speciallist

    n/p

  • Black_Water

    You know what you are. What you’re made of. War is in your blood. Don’t fight it. You didn’t kill for your country. You killed for yourself. God’s never gonna make that go away. When you’re pushed, killing’s as easy as breathing. ~John Rambo

  • bs

    “Unofficial Redstate 2.0 FAQ” for answers to those and more burning questions about Redstate. See my sig line for a link…

  • Moe_Lane

    NT

  • speciallist

    You can bring it….but not Every post

  • JSobieski

    Take some basic logic classes and then get back to us.

    You are the kind of person who finds the US military just as bad as Saddan Hussein because a couple of soldiers pranced around some Iraqi soldiers in the nude.

    Saddam kills hundreds of thousands in cold blood.

    US soldiers act inappropriately without permanent damage to the prisoners.

    To you, that is a wash as well.

    P.S. I’m sure the Jews did bad things in the 1930′s and 1940′s too

  • NightTwister

    -nt-

  • drrealitycheck

    McCain;Who is he? A baby killing, bribe taking, gold digging thug. Elect him and welcome to endless and failed wars of conquest, the second great depression and the destruction of what’s left of our enviroment, our economy and our standing in the world. In the last debate, this desperate and mean spirited creature came across as a drunken redneck looking for bar fight. The election is over, is that respectful enough?

  • RoxannaDanna

    But not nearly as racist or devisive as the word WELFARE.

  • 2006_personoftheyear

    …there was a story about a guy in London being shot for wearing an Obama shirt. I haven’t exactly looked into it more than having seen it once or twice online. Should the actions of some guy in London have any bearing on y’all? I don’t think so (okay well let me rephrase, no) and same for some dude with a “Sarah Palin is a …” shirt and me.

  • Black_Water

    I agree with John McCain as a veteran myself, I think he’s got the leadership and courage to lead the country. As an educated white suburbanite I liked John in 2008. I have to admit the campaign has been run horribly, Im still knocking on doors for him but I dont have a lot of hope especially after the styfling of his campaign so terribly. I dont know why you immediately think because I disagree with you I cant enjoy the discussion. You need to get out of your bunker.

  • Tim_Schieferecke

    n/t

  • RoxannaDanna

    Thank you for pointing me there.

  • 2006_personoftheyear

    …I am gonna be out, so may not get to replying for awhile.

  • Moe_Lane

    Except that he forgot to call Sarah Palin any names. Probably rushed for time.

    Blam.

  • terilyn

    Sen McCain truly does not feel that it’s appropriate to slam his opponent. He is truly from ‘the old school’. He behaves as a gentleman and expects others to do the same. I see him as an honest, honorable man. That is why I support John McCain.

    He has give more for his country than the vast majority of Americans and the left is terrified of the truth. Sarah Palin is a real American, with real values and a strong spirit. This is the reason she is attacked by the left.

    I have faith in the American voters that we will win this election. I believe that deep down in my soul.

  • speciallist

    n/p

  • SenorPlaid

    “Just ask if Obama would be where he is at if he were a white man. The answer is inevitable.”

    Damn straight. A white man with exactly the same credentials, the same experience, the same speeches, the same connections, the same charisma, the same intelligence, the same campaign but named, say, John Smith would be ahead in the polls by 20 points, and McCain and Palin would be reduced to campaigning in Phoenix and Anchorage just to try and carry their home states.

  • 2006_personoftheyear

    I thought of that as I was posting, but I am talking specifically of the Democrat-Republican stuff, the stuff that is universally ridiculed and is inevitable when you have so many people on both sides being so emotionally invested in something, where only one side can win. Jews in Nazi Germany is such a radically different situation that I trust that reasonable people can see the difference in a “I know it when I see it” type way.

    Now I really have to go…

  • Achance

    First time ever in the twenty years I’ve lived in this house! Of course the Obama sign a few doors down is still standing. I’m beginning to feel like I’m going to have a serious disagreement with these people.

  • RoxannaDanna

    Is this what Obama meant when he admonished his supporters to “get in their face?”

    It ain’t workin’ here, pal.

  • izoneguy

    Obama ;Who is he? A baby killing, bribe taking, gold digging thug. Elect him and welcome to endless and failed wars of conquest, the second great depression and the destruction of what’s left of our enviroment, our economy and our standing in the world. In the last debate, this desperate and mean spirited creature came across as a drunken redneck looking for bar fight. The election is over, is that respectful enough?

  • Tim_Schieferecke

    I used to be a corrections officer, and in my time there, I saw a guy wearing a Mickey Mouse shirt who’d been shot but not killed while in the act of robbing a place. Was he shot because he had a Mickey Mouse shirt on or because he was robbing the place? Come on, your argument was so easy to annihilate. Try harder.

  • McPALINation

    just curious…

  • McPALINation

    Heeheeheeheeheegafaw…can’t help but interrupt this program to spread the word that the movie got 4th! The Chihuahua movie got 2nd! I’m going to post a photo of mine wearing a homemade “I AM JOE” banner tomorrow in a post, if someone would tell me how to(?) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    now back to the interesting conversation about the “Invisible Women,” O.K.? After all the women smears, WE WILL BE THE OCTOBER SURPRISE! (What’s that Rush says? “Let not your heart be troubled…”

  • speciallist

    You are transparent…and Lame

  • StephC

    McCain mentioned those T-shirts during the debate. He also mentioned the Congressman. Obama wouldn’t disavow either one. He never disavowed Kos, MoveOn.org or any other group, either. In fact, he went out of his way to tell his supporters to get in our faces and continues to incite extremism,often with violent consequences.

    Why should he? He complains about McCain’s negative ads and if McCain does have more negative ads it’s only because Obama’s entire campaign is one huge negative ad.

    According to Obama, it isn’t just Washington is broken but something wrong with the whole country and he’s going to remake it to his satisfaction.

    As for the video linked somewhere above. I heard terrorist. I heard Muslim. But I didn’t hear: kill him. Either way, McCain is not the keeper of every nutjob who walks in and says something stupid. Trying to equate that with a group of people wearing shirts referring to Palin as a ** doesn’t work. One is a conscious choice. The other, stupid as it may have been, could be attributed to the excitement of the moment.

  • Stuckinmichigan

    was stolen last night and replaced with an Obama sign. My sister took it inside, crossed off everything except Obama, and put a big N in front of his name. Now it is just a sign that says Nobama. It actually looks she bought it somewhere.

  • MMan

    It seems like they rushed to get this movie out before the election, but Stone kind of forgot that the real”W” is not up for re-election, There was nothing that people did not expect in the movie. It broke now new ground and will not change anyones mind.

  • QueenOfCups

    Check out this bit of shocking violence – it’s meant to be funny, so I’m sure it will get a pass:

  • Putter

    must not have been available.

  • Achance

    actually The People’s Republic of Juneau. Downtown Juneau is justifiably known as Berzerkley North. I live in the Mendenhall Valley, suburban Juneau, which is pretty much a part of Alaska, so we don’t get much of this sort of thing. I’d say kids doing stupid kid things were it not for the fact that the Obama signs nearby were unmolested. I put them back up and will be keeping a close eye; there are many methods by which to reward people who molest signs, but since I probably shouldn’t use explosives, I’m thinking flourescent pink or purple dye.

  • JLenardDetroit

    Republicans and Conservatives show up to Events TO SUPPORT A CAUSE. Liberals, Leftists, Democrats, Socialists, Anarchists, etc… show up TO DEMONSTRATE AGAINST THINGS. Fundamental difference in the composition of brain matter. They show up, even at their own events, not to support anything but to demonstrate against the other side. They show up at everyone else’s Events, also to Protest.

    It is Leftists that are always drummed up into a frenzy AGAINST things, as they have nothing positive to support.

  • McPALINation

    And a huge pat on the back to your sister for making lemonade out of lemons–love your Rush quote too!

  • JSobieski

    Not saying the differences are as vast in the examples that I give, but there are MATERIAL differences–the sides are NOT equivalent.

  • JLenardDetroit

    … throws them under the nearest bus to protect his image and keep the Politics of “distraction” going. Can’t let people understand those occasional “spread the wealth,” no Flag pin, money for fraud voter organizations, serving on boards with fellow anti-American social agenda folks, etc…. comments/actions are his core belief.

    It’s all about Smoke and Mirrors… er, I mean, Change and Hope.

  • Baldeagle79

    Sen. Obama suffers from premature evacuation syndrome.

    www.offeringcommonsense.blogspot.com

  • antisocial

    Best response to the comment.

  • bs

    Do you guys know how to do anything else? Poor, poor Barack – victim of eeeeevil racists.

  • azaeroprof

    Wow, you registered just to post this piece of pathetic analysis? Are the Obamanuts that concerned given that the RCP average has dropped from 8.2 to 5.0 in the last 5 days alone?

    “spread the wealth around” = Dukakis in a tank (without the goofy helmet!)

  • finaljeopardy

    Anyone who believes the wealthy will pay the taxes for the other 95% of Americans, so they will be receiving the benefits of government without paying their fair share of taxes, is naive and looking for handouts. They should think about what welfare really is and recognize that Obama presents his tax plan in those terms. Race has nothing to do with this.

  • 2006_personoftheyear

    I am going by the article’s title, which is “Man shot three times in street by racist gunman – for wearing Barack Obama T-shirt” and by the lede which sez:

    A man told today how he was shot three times in a London street for wearing a Barack Obama T-shirt.

    Dube Egwuatu was buying a mobile telephone top-up card in an off-licence when the gunman confronted him and glared at the top, which carries an image of the Democrat US presidential candidate underneath the legend ‘Believe’.

    The man then launched into a tirade of racist slurs, shouting ‘I f***ing hate n*****s’ and urging 36-year-old Mr Egwuatu to leave the shop with him.

    Now it sounds like they’re going by the victim’s account, who knows how reliable he is, but it seems pretty straightforward that this was not just a totally random shooting (unless you think the victim is making it up).

    Either way, I don’t think it’s particularly important.

  • 2006_personoftheyear

    I just think it’s hard to actually come up with data to support any conclusion on this. I see stories here of Obama supporters doing stuff, and I see stories of McCain supporters doing stuff on Liberal sites, but I don’t keep track. Y’all can recall more of the stuff with Obama supporters because y’all are conservative and so you remember that stuff better, vice versa if you go on a Liberal blog, but I am not the one to ask about this.

    With that, I am going to stop arguing, because I don’t think this is what’s important.

  • webmonkeydc

    A Sunday School teacher of mine once said, “It’s fine to be open-minded…just don’t be so open-minded your brains fall out.” Sadly, we’re walking in a lot of brains these days.

    Folks seem to have bought into the “he’s young, speaks well, is intelluctual, and you’re an idiot to vote for McCain” mindset. It’s amazing where open-mindedness…or should I say free speech…has taken us. No longer is it tolerated to have a seemingly opposing viewpoint. If your views differ from those of the media, you are free to be ridiculed, harassed, have your yard signs destroyed, and worse.

    From his socialist views to his inexperience, slowly and surely more are realizing that Obomination is the worse choice for President.

    If for nothing else, I’d take someone who’s survived a POW camp than a green Senator to be my Prez anyday.

  • Gekster

    Obama brought up the no call at the McCain rally. McCain could have cited the” lets stone her the old fashioned way,” comment when Mrs. Palin was in New York recently. Obama brought it up, McCain didn’t. Thats the significant difference you ignored.
    And I am not the Geekster on Gateway Pundits comments if your thinking that. Like the name though.

  • lugnut

    They mean “have been played for suckers, brainwashed and made chumps of. Anybody can used those words. It like Joe the plumber. The man makes $40,000 a year. Now Obama tax plan actually gives him a tax break he can save and help him open his business in the future. But old Joe has been hoodwinked into supporting McCain, who’s giving the billions to corporations. See what i mean. Bamboozled!

  • kyle8

    know your limitations.

  • lugnut

    The guy who shot the man in London for wearing an Obama tee shirt, told the man (a black man) why he shot him. Thats a fact!

  • David_Hinz

    (that felt good to type) Look Lugnut, what in the world does a guy getting shot in London have to do with this American campaign?

    LONDON, is in England. ENGLAND is not a part of the United States (buy a globe if you don’t believe me)

    SO, what does that have to do with ANY Americans? A mad dog, or an Englishman has nothing in common with an American Republican. Both are much, much closer to Democrats.

    lugnut, lugnut, lugnut! Thanks for your screen name.

  • JSobieski

    Nor have I seen a single voter fraud allegation.

    In contrast, I have heard or seen all of the above with respect to Obama supporters.

  • David_Hinz

    now, officially, EVERYBODY DOES IT! because they have found a case against a GOP organization.

  • spainishirish

    Dead on.

    It seems that those of us who weren’initial McCain supporters are his last friends.

    Go figure. And support your local congresscritters.

  • JSobieski

    Definitely equivalent

  • David_Hinz

    in the eyes of the Mainstream Media, all accounts are now equal. Both sides do it, and so there is no longer any story here.

  • RoxannaDanna

    Obama uses code words alot.

    Bamboozeled and hoodwinked both come straight out of a Malcolm X speech. Obama used both of those words in a single sentence when he spoke to a predominately black audience. A white audience wouldn’t pick up on the hidden meaning and don’t.

    Is this a good time to use MOBEY?

  • David_Hinz

    whale

    Now THAT is a Moby

  • JSobieski

    Fundamentally our problem is one of education.

    Logical reasoning just isn’t taught anywhere.

  • blooch

    …deep in the blackwater.

    “As an educated white suburbanite I liked John in 2008.” LOLifelong Republican.

  • Neil_Stevens

    I could leave it to Moe to ban you for being a racist, lefty troll,and for delibrately misquoting me to attribute your racism to me.

    But I’ll just do it myself, because we all know you’re not here in good faith.

    Now get back to beating your wife for being too independent or whatever it is you Obamanauts do.

  • Neil_Stevens

    Just because you may have no moral compass beyond getting other people’s money to line your own pockets, you have no right to come here and use our site to assign such base motives to Joe the Plumber.

    Go use Powder Plouffe’s website for that.

  • speciallist

    n/p

  • blooch

    nt

  • blooch

    sureley doth vexe thifs stout of hearte Republickan…forsoothe.

  • blooch

    after being shot three times. Wait a minute…I thought they had strict Gun Control Laws over there. Squirt gun, maybe?

  • aaronbg

    “Just ask if Obama would be where he is at if he were a white man. The answer is inevitable.”

    Damn straight. A white man with exactly the same credentials, the same experience, the same speeches, the same connections, the same charisma, the same intelligence, the same campaign but named, say, John Smith (you mean John Kerry) would be ahead in the polls by 20 points

    See where I corrected your statement….you are right…..the MSM is so racist…John Kerry was much higher in the polls….Oh….he still lost though…;^)

  • Neil_Stevens
  • bs

    it’s the second iteration of the FAQ. So I’ll change the title!