A few points on tonight


This won't be long

Point one: There’s no need to start pointing fingers within the party. This election was on style, not substance. No faction’s to blame, and no policy is at fault. We know this because Obama won. He ran on no ideas at all.

We all went into this together with the wrong idea. We just need to learn how to win again, rather than try to pin the loss on somebody. No, I don’t even blame John McCain and the mavericks like him.

Point two: This isn’t the end of America. Our values are more resilient than Obama is strong. Our civil institutions are stronger than Obama is socialist. Our nation is greater than any one man, including the President. We will endure anything that happens under his Presidency.

Point three: This is no time for ‘purging’ anyone. This it time for regrouping and winning again.

Point four: 1980 didn’t come just because President Carter was that bad. It came because Republicans and conservatives worked hard, prepared for 1980, got a good candidate, and worked within the party for victory.

Point five: 2010 comes before 2012. Let’s focus on getting 435 excellent candidates for the House, 33 excellent candidates for the Senate, and excellent candidates for Governor and state legislator.

Point six: If you’re pushing a candidate for 2012 right now, you’re not to be taken seriously.

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Let the healing begin...

Muck Tuesday, November 4th at 11:06PM EST (link)

I’m sitting here with tears running down my face…proud to be an American, proud that we could elect a black president. I don’t agree with his politics, and I can only hope that he moves in the right direction, but it is a proud moment, none-the-less. I think the tears also indicate a feeling of relief…the conservative movement needs to regroup, and a McCain presidency would have stalled that. Our ideas will stay around. Have heart, all…

 

I disagree. Let the purging begin.

Staunch_Libertarian Tuesday, November 4th at 11:14PM EST (link)

We will never get this party right until we start looking critically at it. Obama just won Virginia and Florida. He might win NC. If we don’t act now to change this party for the better then we are doomed to a generation of socialism.

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728 days until the 2010 mid-term elections

Finrod Tuesday, November 4th at 11:16PM EST (link)

Time to start recruiting now.


Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.

 

I agree on all points, but...

Hammer2008 Tuesday, November 4th at 11:21PM EST (link)

We must support overwhelmingly the remaining GOP Senators. They are our firewall.

Staunch_Lib’, the purging has happenend. Just as Americans voted in 1994, they have now.

The GOP is at it’s base now with the elected officials we have left. We must forgive their past votes that have grated we conservatives so, and buck them up now and into the next two years. The pressure on them will be surprisingly intense.

Michael Steele for RNC Chair!

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Too much noise! “Noise! You’ll have noise enough before long. The Regulars are coming out.” ~ Paul Revere (April 18th, 1775’s eve…)

That's the spirt !

SteveLA Tuesday, November 4th at 11:22PM EST (link)

Down for a while, but not forever!

At every step…with every chance, a strong conservative counter punch at ever opportunity!

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Competency over ideological purity

 
 

I may not be taken seriously, but I can't help but say...

scottbomb Tuesday, November 4th at 11:27PM EST (link)

Palin-Jindal 2012!

http://www.HowObamaGotElected.com

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

 

No one to blame?! I call BS!

NightTwister Tuesday, November 4th at 11:28PM EST (link)

There better be some heads rolling at RNC headquarters, starting tomorrow.

And there better be some new minority leadership in the House and Senate too.

 

Start looking now for conservatives

Carol Tarasewicz Tuesday, November 4th at 11:28PM EST (link)

I’ve been reading Red State since summer and love it. Especially since I am from one of the Bluest States, Massachusetts.

The same bull was thrown at us here in 2006 with Deval Patrick, he and Obama are the same. Hope and change, yes we can and/or together we can. I had hoped that the people here in MA had enough of Patrick but they still voted for Obama and even though there was finally someone to oppose Kerry, not the best candidate, but at least one, they still voted him right back in.

I enjoy reading here, especially about conservative reps like Cantor and governors like Jindall. I hope there are more on the rise.
Thank you.

I pray for more conservative candidates so we can reclaim the house in 2010. I also hope, no prayer wasted here, that we get more than 5 Republicans in our state legislature. A prayer would be a waste on that in MA.

We lost Florida, VA, CO, and Ohio...so far.

Staunch_Libertarian Tuesday, November 4th at 11:28PM EST (link)

I am so unbelievably frustrated by this inept campaign ran by our side. McCain bet the farm on Penn. and picked a VP that really killed us in the swing states. I am so angry.

It is time to get rid of those that thought McCain should be our standardbearer.

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Disagree. Time to reassess.

kingsley Tuesday, November 4th at 11:29PM EST (link)

This was a foregone conclusion, from the moment McCain was selected.

The Republicans have moved away from what made them successful. They’ve become anything but conservative — a spend-a-holic, war-waging party that is about as far from “fiscally responsible” as you can get.

The party continued to ridicule and shun anybody who had a truly conservative philosophy, and in the end, they got what was coming to them.

Things are completely splintered, and until the party is ready to reunite as a CONSERVATIVE party and not a neoconservative one, there won’t be a meaningful Republican force in government for a while yet.

 

McCain lost

warkarma Tuesday, November 4th at 11:29PM EST (link)

Because the GOP refuses to move forward. As long as die-hard evangelicals and far-right conservatives control the reigns of the Republican party, you will continue to bleed votes.

I’m not a Republican. I’m not a Democrat. I’m an American. And I’m angry.

I didn’t want Obama to win. I wanted Giuliani, or Romney. YOU wouldn’t let that happen. YOU forced McCain to pick a Veep that essentially gave him nothing. Would McCain/Giuliani have taken Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida? Would McCain/Romney?

Until the day that the GOP begins to embrace the center-right, the left will win. When this party begins to realize that the younger American generations care about trivial stuff like global warming (gasp!), healthcare, a regulated economy, that’s when the GOP will begin to regain momentum. As of now, that brand is as good as dead.

God, I’m mad. I remember reading stuff on this board about how people would withhold their vote if Giuliani were to run. Are you still saying that???

God help us over the next 4 years.

 

[Retread]

gertrude Tuesday, November 4th at 11:31PM EST (link)

[blam – NS]

 

Figure Out Why Obama Won

MikeNC Tuesday, November 4th at 11:31PM EST (link)

We know this because Obama won. He ran on no ideas at all.

Or perhaps you simply weren’t looking at what ideas he had because they were so different than your own.

Republicans will need to learn that the United States is no longer a center-right country, it is now center-left. To appeal to these voters — new voters, minority-majority voters, progressive voters — the GOP will need to have a deep and analytical look at their platform and figure out what didn’t work.

John McCain didn’t lose the election, Barack Obama won it. For Republicans to win again, they need to understand how and why Obama won, and then respect the conclusions. Saying that Obama “had no ideas” is not the way to start preparing the party comeback.

Kingsley

warkarma Tuesday, November 4th at 11:32PM EST (link)

I agree with every word you said

Take a hike.

NightTwister Tuesday, November 4th at 11:33PM EST (link)

The LAST thing we need it so move more to the middle. Reagan was a strong conservative and won landslide elections. He did it because of his great conservative ideas. THAT’S that this party needs to get back on track.

Sarah Palin is EXACTLY what we need.

Here come the sleeper cell trolls.

NightTwister Tuesday, November 4th at 11:35PM EST (link)
 
 
 

Great speech by McCain ...

StudentOfLincoln Tuesday, November 4th at 11:35PM EST (link)

McCain’s speech sounded a message of grace, humility, hope, and commitment. It was wonderful.

Had those wise themes been sustained throughout McCain’s campaign, then it might have been a victory speech.

Are you even a Republican?

Neil Stevens Tuesday, November 4th at 11:36PM EST (link)

Site administrator speaking.

Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis

 
 

Now is not the time for recriminations.

Joel Farnham Tuesday, November 4th at 11:36PM EST (link)

I don’t think the pick McCain was the right one in the first place.

Second, Palin helped. Big time.

Third, Getting angry now. Just now?

Forth, Wait till 2010.

Call me what you want, just don’t call me late for dinner.

Really pal?

warkarma Tuesday, November 4th at 11:37PM EST (link)

Swatting aside your playground rebuttal, what exactly did Sarah Palin do for McCain in this election?

Please, enlighten me. I’m eagerly waiting

It's like a bad movie

SteveLA Tuesday, November 4th at 11:37PM EST (link)

What was the bad 70’s movie…Telephone or something…Charles Bronson I think.

Cue the trolls

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Competency over ideological purity

I have one thing to say to this post

Neil Stevens Tuesday, November 4th at 11:37PM EST (link)

If you’re angrier at Republicans than Democrats, then I don’t know what your priorities are at all.

Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis

 
 
 
 

Chill, people

bs Tuesday, November 4th at 11:39PM EST (link)

What’s done is done. Pointing fingers less than one hour after the concession is counterproductive.

Wait a day or so. Think about it a bit. Consider what happened, why it happened, how it might have been avoided, and then propose a plan of action. A “throw the bums out” plan will not necessarily help anything.

Let’s be adults here. Sometimes the bad guys have to fail before we can beat them. This may be one of those times.

Decorum is fo’ suckas

It IS Time to Purge

jimmuy8 Tuesday, November 4th at 11:40PM EST (link)

We will either be the conservative alternative or we will be the less-liberal permanent minority.

There are FAR too many “leaders” of the Republican party who are fine–happy, even–with being a minority party.

They must be removed from this wreck.

“They’ll turn us all into beggars, ’cause they’re easier to please.”

You take a hike

warkarma Tuesday, November 4th at 11:40PM EST (link)

How exactly did Sarah Palin help? Please enlighten me.

okay

Hammer2008 Tuesday, November 4th at 11:42PM EST (link)

My point was with national ‘elected’ officials. Note my tip to a change needed at the RNC.

As for Governor Palin, do not throw the baby out with the bathwater. She will be (if she chooses) the most prolific GOP fundraiser for the next few years.

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Too much noise! “Noise! You’ll have noise enough before long. The Regulars are coming out.” ~ Paul Revere (April 18th, 1775’s eve…)

It is worth considering

I was previously Tlaloc, and I was banned last year. Tuesday, November 4th at 11:43PM EST (link)

that Reagan was working three decades ago in an entirely different geopolitical arena (i.e. the cold war). You can;t assume what worked for him will work now anymore than you can just adopt Lincoln’s platform and debate points and win.

Times change. The electorate changes. Parties change with them or die, ask the Whigs.

 
 
 
 
 

In the end... not surprising

Kudzu Tuesday, November 4th at 11:44PM EST (link)

that’s all.

But I was told today by a somewhat gloating self-denying lefty that I “had a new boss”. In my view my boss never changes and so I told him “Obama’s not my boss, he’s just the next President”. The Constitution is my boss and the President is the person who I hope will exercise good judgment in the use of my brothers and me. I hope Obama will surround himself with decent advisers… I’ll take Colin Powell for instance. But if we start seeing Alinksites pop up in the nominations I know that we’re in for a rough road.

I do agree that we need to prop up the current crop of Senators and Congressmen. But we need to look forward at what the next four years will likely bring and that has been hashed out here before. We need leadership.

Leadership akin to Newt Gingrich and Michael Steele and Bobby Jindal and yes, Sarah Palin. True conservative leaders who can articulate our message and lay it on on the line for the people to understand, even in bubble gum language. We need John Boehner and Roy Blunt. We need Jack Kingston.

Steel yourself gents and damn the torpedoes and hoist the black flag. We sail into a harsh sea that has no safe harbor until we create one. We’ll have to take it by force and make the inhabitants understand what happens unless they allow us refuge. The Republic needs saving… and only strong, principled, conservative leaders will accomplish that.

Any thing else? I’m too terrified to think about it.

It always did take two of you to take down one of me. - Jo Bob Priddy, North Dallas Forty.

Now on at http://kudzu630.wordpress.com/

Lessee now... you want to ...

bs Tuesday, November 4th at 11:44PM EST (link)

move farther left to fight the Left, who has moved even FARTHER left. How do you propose that the GOP differentiate itself? By being better Dems than the Dems?

Sorry, no.

Decorum is fo’ suckas

Oh - I'm angry at the Democrats

warkarma Tuesday, November 4th at 11:45PM EST (link)

I’m angry at the left-wing nutjobs who elected Obama.

But I’m angrier at the Republicans for their narrow-mindedness in regard to this election. Giuliani/Romney would have been a hell of a better ticket than McCain/Palin.

Now we get Obama/Biden. How’s that better?

First stop. Moderates must go.

Staunch_Libertarian Tuesday, November 4th at 11:46PM EST (link)

I have no patience for those that try and sell us “Mavericks” like McCain and Palin.

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I'm quite sure that is an impossible task. -nt-

NightTwister Tuesday, November 4th at 11:47PM EST (link)
 
 
 
 

Sorry, Neil, I beg to differ

nivlem Tuesday, November 4th at 11:48PM EST (link)

My gut has the same feeling it did as when I saw South Carolina go for McCain…
I went to his meetings because of
Sarah Palin and to beat Obama….
You cannot win race on a Vice President, and you cannot win a race to defeat your
opposition.
You must win on your own ideas….McCain
was not running a race on winning ideas in a bad economy.
I still say he lost it in the first debate…he was stuck on earmarks…..
Obama created the “middle class” theme
at that debate, and McCain cound not
pivot to chang his focus….
The sun will come up tomorrow….we have
several businesses….
We have no choice but to take a look at
where we stand to survive. We have already cut down on office overhead as
much as nongrowing economy allows us to do. Our employees have had to take on more of the burden then we want.
We are concerned about the people that work for us. In order to stay in business and have jobs for the few, we are forced to make painful decisions.
I cry for them….where do they go??

Conservatism works every time it's tried.

NightTwister Tuesday, November 4th at 11:48PM EST (link)

It’s just been a really long time since it’s actually been tried.

Then I guess

nyscene911 Tuesday, November 4th at 11:49PM EST (link)

You always want to be the minority party.

The majority of the country does not want someone who will constantly take a hard-lined stance to one side of the aisle. When we get people who don’t know how to negotiate and settle, we end up in trouble.

The party needs to expand to the moderates, not kick them out.

 
 
 

And a Purge us of All the "Electable"

jimmuy8 Tuesday, November 4th at 11:49PM EST (link)

pushers who pushed McCain and Maverickness upon us as the only chance at victory. Remember: Some of us told you that the Dems tried that with Kerry and lost. We warned you.

Stand up and take your lumps–don’t sugar coat it, don’t downplay it, don’t “but it could have been worse.” You were wrong.

Let us no more compromise upon the fundamentals of conservatism for the sake of electoral spoils.

McCain was a compromise–not with the middle of America–but with the Left. Who, as the results prove, had no interest in considering him.

When we agree that we cannot ever again afford to compromise, to yield, or falter: Then we can move forward for victory.

So Republican leaders aren't to be held accountable?

NightTwister Tuesday, November 4th at 11:51PM EST (link)

I mean, we did actually hire them to do a job, one that they did poorly, I’d say.

 
 

Well Said

UncommonRight Tuesday, November 4th at 11:51PM EST (link)

For the first time McCain looked beat when he gave his concession. And rightfully so. I do not believe McCain ran on any egotistical delusions. I think he ran because he truly does love his country.

He was classy and insightful.

As neat as Obama’s story is, now the rubber hits the road and he has to lead.I have heard some talk of Jackie Robinson today. But Robinson rose to the occasion and was actually a great ballplayer. Had he been mediocre he’d have been sent down like any other player. History ahs been made. Time to think about the future. Will the One rise up?

Going forward, it is time for conservatism to make a comeback. We cannot rely on traditional geography anymore. Liberalism, or at least, blue-ism has been spilled all over the map this year.

How do we do this? I am not exactly sure. But we can learn a lot from Obama. An energized base, a massive ground game and credit card fraud can go a long way.

I do not choose to be a common man. It is my right to be uncommon. I seek opportunity to develop whatever talents God gave me–not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed.

~Dean Alfange

Time To Keep Score

Is your current plan working?

warkarma Tuesday, November 4th at 11:51PM EST (link)

Because most of the moderates I know (exception being me) voted left

 
 

With all due respect...

udtiger Tuesday, November 4th at 11:51PM EST (link)

May as well just head over to the National Archives and burn the [expletive deleted] Constitution, because after this charletan removes his cloak of “centrism”, joins forces with Pelosi and Reid, and starts putting scores of total liberal [expletive deleted] crackpots in the federal courts, the United States of America as founded and intended by Washington, Madison, Hamilton and Jefferson will be no more.

This is the [expletive deleted] end. I hope every one of those that voted for Obama are pleased with what they have done. You have set this country on the road to European socialistic mediocrity.

YIPEE!!! We get be be just like everyone else. Nothing special. Nothing unique. Because to do so is to be arrogant, unilaterialst, selfish.

By the way…congratulations to all of you out there with a family income of $100K or more. In about 4 months, you are going to instantly become “rich”. And if you aren’t “rich” in 4 months, you sure the Hell will be when the Bush tax cuts are allowed to lapse in 2010.

There’s no “good news” here…

Despite the DEMOCRATIC Congress having an approval rating that starts with a “1″, which is even lower than “the worst President in US History”, the proletariat have seen fit to send EVEN MORE DEMOCRATS to Congress.

You have seen the self-appointed “fourth estate” (the press) abandon any pretext of “objectivity” to see to the election of a COMPLETE UNKNOWN. Do you realize there are entire YEARS of this man’s life that NO ONE knows about, and the press did not seem too [expletive deleted] interested in exploring in any great depth (well, except for that conservative hit squad at FoxNews).

*This *is what conservatives will confront in the next 2-4 years. Press conferences will be love-fests. The major media will be the propagandists for the Obama Administration (I am close to vomiting even having to type that), and the few strong voices on the Right will be silenced by the Fairness Doctrine.

Maybe “our institutions” could have survived in the old days, but this is a new day…a day of “change”, and the powers that be won’t make the mistakes they made in the late 80s and early 90s, which opened the door for the “Revolution” in 1994 (and what a ringing success that turned out to be). The demographics, the numbers of persons more than happy to let government be their “daddy”, the numbers of idiot youth that have known only Clinton and Bush II as the President, all of these have totally shifted the electorate from that which existed in 1980 and 1984. There are no more Reagan Democrats (and if there are…they weren’t even enough to stop an unabashed socialist).

I defy anyone to find a single history book (even some of the most leftist tripe out there) that even hints that what is in the offing is even a shadow of what the Founders had in mind when they created this nation. Of course, once Mr. Smith at the Ministry of Truth gets finished, I am sure that’s exectly what the History books will say.

For the Obama supporters…your guy won, bully for you! I am sure there were plenty of people that were happy that Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, and similar demagogues were running the show and a good number of them ended up on the bad end of the deal by the time the dust settled.

As for me, I’ll be fine. I’ll probably make loads of $$$$ since any chance at meaningful tort reform is dead and buried. More lawsuits means more need for defense lawyers getting paid by the hour. I am sure Obama will be able to find plenty of people for his Civilian National Security Force from the hundreds of thousands of people that will be unemployed because of his hostility to coal and oil production, not to mention the businesses that will shed workers like dead skin to save up the $$$ to pay the new tax bills. Of course, I am sure that all those people that voted for Obama won’t give a damn when their energy bills “skyrocket” (his words) because of his energy policies. I mean, Hell, Obama’s gonna pay for their gas, their mortgages…chicken in every pot, man.

Let’s be honest here…

Both of the policies of these candidates sucked (at least, to the extent you could actually pin them down on one). It got even worse once you looked at their records (of course, you really couldn’t look at Obama’s record since he did not have much of one in the US Senate, and his record in the Illinois Senate had essentially been purged [probably not the last time you hear that word in association with Obama]).

McCain was pro-amnesty. To the best people could tell (with the exception of his Kenyan auntie) so was Obama.
Both were for the abortion of a bailout bill.
Both are for silencing political speech (McCain [McCain-Feingold]; Obama [Fairness Doctrine]).
Obama was for taxing “the rich” and cutting taxes for 95% (yeah, figure that math out considering 40% pay no income taxes). McCain was for cutting taxes.

The only real separation was on guns, abortion and international relations, and with the economy going to Hell in the last two months, and the media’s full court press on the issue, the joe average voter could give two [poops] about dead babies, the 2nd Amendment and whether the US was attacked by swarms of terrorists…they wanted CHANGE damnit!!!!

I will close with this, I hope to God that I am wrong about Obama, the Dems running Congress, the policies they will put in place and the judges they will put on the bench. But I have a Master’s Degree in History, six years of teaching American History (4 in college, 2 high school), 10 years in the legal profession (3 as a student and 7 as a lawyer) and a buttload of historical and political knowledge, and that tells me I am not.

God Bless the USA…we’re going to need all the help we can get!

“Everybody needs money! That’s why they call it money!”

Nope, it didn't. McCain is a moderate

bs Tuesday, November 4th at 11:53PM EST (link)

and he didn’t work. Your point?

Decorum is fo’ suckas

Pun - you offer pun

warkarma Tuesday, November 4th at 11:53PM EST (link)

Because you have no substance.

Here - I’ll help you: She did NOTHING.

He ran on

Wayne Tuesday, November 4th at 11:54PM EST (link)

bankrupting coal? Is that a viable option for this country? Banishing coal has the effect of banishing the railroads. That has the effect of causing massive increases in the price of just about everything, autos, refrigerators, stoves, a/c units, clothes, food. You name it, it’s gonna cost more, under the Obamunists. And don’t forget, he threw his “auntie” and half-brother under the bus just to win.
So, how does the Rev. Wright, Fr. Pfleger, Bill Ayers and Bernie Dohrn look to you? Should the R’s embrace the radical left? Sorry, I’d rather chew glass.

“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF

 
 
 
 

I want and demand a purge; NOW

phxg Tuesday, November 4th at 11:55PM EST (link)

It is time to remove these limp wristed, pseudo-conservatives that believe the BS that the path to victory is appeasing “the moderate voter”.

Conservative ideals are what propelled Reagan, and they will propel the next leader. Unfortunately, we were given a candidate that did not mirror what is the conservative party and in my opinion did not campaign like he wanted to win.

A new era of far left ideals will be hoisted upon this great nation beginning 1/21/09. Ideals that will, I believe last long after my soul has left the living world. It is an unfortunate reality that as much improvement we have made since 1994 will likely be undone.

Tommorrow morning I will awake, energized and ready to fight to bring conservative ideals to my little corner of the world, but I have no doubt, that in the short term, we will envy Sisyphus.

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. –Aristotle

We just tried the moderate thing.

NightTwister Tuesday, November 4th at 11:57PM EST (link)

Turned out really bad. Like a “B” horror movie.

Thanks, but I believe we need to try authentic conservatism next time around.

YESYESYES!!

JHancock Tuesday, November 4th at 11:58PM EST (link)

Aynne Rand Capitalism, Small govt, Strong Military, and moral Society. Bring Back Regan!

We just tried the moderate thing.

NightTwister Tuesday, November 4th at 11:59PM EST (link)

Turned how poorly. Like a “B” horror movie.

Thanks, but I believe we’ll try authentic conservatism this time around.

It's not a pun...

DRP Wednesday, November 5th at 12:01AM EST (link)

It’s a reference to his job title.

Palin's not

warkarma Wednesday, November 5th at 12:02AM EST (link)

McCain should have picked a Veep that would have given him a chance with the moderates, and would have given him the swing states.

America saw Palin for what she is: a wonderful person without enough experience. But she was a conservative, dangit. So we picked her.

Romney would have made a great Veep. Rudy would have made a great Veep.

It doesn’t matter anymore. I concede the point - whatever. Depression setting in…

 
 
 
 
 
 

It was lost on issues

zuiko Wednesday, November 5th at 12:02AM EST (link)

McCain’s economic policies largely mirrored Obama’s policies… that is how it became about personality. Support for huge unpopular taxpayer financed bailouts, free money for homeowners who don’t pay their mortgages, you name the liberal economic policy and McCain was on board.

There was essentially zero difference between them on economic issues, and if people were foolish enough to believe Obama (many were), McCain was actually to the left of Obama on taxes. That was a recipe for a guaranteed loss. Why vote for the old white guy who is an Obama clone when you can vote for the original and get hope and change thrown in for free?

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

She solified my vote for McCain.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 12:02AM EST (link)

That’s one.

Doesn’t matter what I say though. You’ll never understand, because you’re a squish. You don’t stand for anything. I have no use for people like you.

The Moderates LOST Tonight

jimmuy8 Wednesday, November 5th at 12:03AM EST (link)

and they lost in 2006. How many more times can we keep losing and tell ourselves that we lost because “we weren’t moderate enough?”

Don’t kid yourself: We didn’t lose the moderate middle because we were too extreme–we lost the middle, again, because the saw us as no different, not a whit, a faint shadow of the Democrats. If we are offering the same ideas as the Democrats–spend money, just not as much–we send the message that spending money is good. And if the message that spending money is good, why not spend a bunch? That’s what Joe Moderate saw, and he, again, went with the party of ideas.

No. We must set forth a clear alternative, set forth why our ideas will work, why the are better than the Democrats.

A choice, not an echo.

Sure, but knee-jerk reactions are not usually productive

bs Wednesday, November 5th at 12:03AM EST (link)

It’s like firing the manager of a baseball team when the manager isn’t the problem, the players are. Maybe not the greatest metaphor, but it’s close. Baseball team owners (except maybe Steinbrenner) seldom just can the owner when the team hits a bad streak. They act in a more measured way. I think that’s where the GOP needs to go…evaluate and then act.

Blood lust is not helpful. I’m sure heads will roll eventually, but let’s make sure they’re the right ones.

Decorum is fo’ suckas

Proud!!

JHancock Wednesday, November 5th at 12:03AM EST (link)

Our fellow Americans have abdicated their responsibility along with their self reliance as well as their freedom to chase their dreams all for the promise of debt relief and free health care. Since when is the greatest capitalism in the world sold so cheaply?? Since when did we stop living boldly as a Nation of innovators and risk takers and instead come crawling to the government teat over a minor economic hiccup? I’m not proud–just convinced that our education system is teaching fewer and fewer Americans to think, advocate for, or work for themselves and for what they want in life!

And what is

nyscene911 Wednesday, November 5th at 12:05AM EST (link)

“authentic conservatism?” Lets face it, we could’ve run someone with the exact believes of Reagan, and we still would’ve gotten creamed. Especially in this environment.
8 years ago, I though the Republican party was on the up and up. It was gaining power, gaining seats. And the reason for that was that you need only share, at that time, share the core components of conservatism to be a member of the GOP. Now the deomcrats are moving in that direction–allow their numbers to expand by bringing those into the party who don’t agree 100% with 100% of the party platform.

You’re never going to win again being hardlined conservative, nor hardlined liberal.

Make the central point of the republican party small government, fiscal responsibility. Thats all that should be needed.

Well

DRP Wednesday, November 5th at 12:07AM EST (link)

He was also hamstrung by two things; a need to shore up a conservative base, as he had rather weak credentials there, and the economic implosion with a member of his own party sitting in the White House.

I think that appealing to the moderates and independents can work, but you’d have to find a way to do it without pissing off the base. Palin (or better yet, Jindal) could have done it; McCain had to tack right, they could tack to the center. It’s a bit counterintuitive, but you need someone like Nixon in order to go to China and you need someone like Reagan in order to appeal to the moderates. Someone like McCain can’t appeal to the moderates, even though he is one, since if he does so he will be savaged by the base of his own party.

With that said, I still think he could have won without the huge body blows he took in the last month from things he could not have prevented (or anticipated, really).

Figured that analogy would come up.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 12:09AM EST (link)

It’s not the same thing. We hired the RNC leaders to do a job. They failed miserably. I’m not just talking about the Presidential election, or this 2008 election. We were humiliated in 2006, and this time it just got worse.

When I moved to Colorado 9 years ago we had a Republican governor, two Republican U.S. Senators, and 5 of 7 Republican Reps.

The numbers are the same now, we’ve just switch their party affiliations. I’ll take my share of the blame, but we hired the RNC leaders to do a job. They aren’t doing it.

Blame the players if you want, but they need to be held accountable. They aren’t doing the job, it’s time to let some new folks in to see if they can do it. Conservative ones, if you please.

No VP would have helped more than Palin

zuiko Wednesday, November 5th at 12:11AM EST (link)

Palin was a net-positive on the ticket. The exit polling shows this. That is a lot more than most VPs manage to accomplish. There isn’t a person on the face of the earth that would have won this for McCain.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

We need to understand that we are in a historical

septembergurl Wednesday, November 5th at 12:12AM EST (link)

moment. Obama is not the cause, but the result of this historical shift. Over the past decade the country has moved sharply to the left. This is undeniable. Obama ran as an unapologetic leftist, and won. He never moderated his campaign to the center after the nomination because he didn’t have to.

The country wanted a left-wing President. Not a moderate like Clinton or even Carter, but a real European style social democrat, with all that entails. Why this is the case is for the historians to figure out.

We are heading into a downward spiral of recession, statism, defeatism and appeasement abroad that will make the 1930s look like a great period. The country will need our leadership, so as the post says, lay off the recriminations!

The silver lining here is that election of Obama effectively removes one of the burdens we have borne as a nation, the unfinished business of the civil war. It’s a great thing to have a black President, as always we leaad the world in this. However, Obama was not elected because he is black. He was elected because he painted a seductive portrait of a left-wing paradise that he will usher in.

We have to face the fact that he is what the people wanted now.

Uh...

DRP Wednesday, November 5th at 12:12AM EST (link)

That’s not what he ran on, which was rather the point. Those are (valid or not) attacks against Obama. Saying that Obama ran on those issues is like saying that McCain ran on a platform of being a Bush clone, about to keel over and die two days after inauguration just after ruining the economy. And of being somehow out of ideas, or something, I never really got that one.

 
 

Guys,

pwest Wednesday, November 5th at 12:13AM EST (link)

I said it above. The time for the circular firing squad is not now. They didn’t reach 60 seats; Mitch McConnel is a great Minority leader! We need to introspective. And as I predicted, people are blaming Palin for this loss. The fact is it would have been much worse.

Folks we need to find our Conservative voice once again, and find A Conservative voice to speak to this nation.

People are hungry to be led; that is why Obama’s ability to speak swayed many people! We don’t need a smooth talker, but we do need someone who is able to explain it to the American people. Virture is hard, teaching Conservative principles is hard. It is easy to tell folks will give you money or a check; it is much harder to explain why you’ll feel better earning it yourself.

Pam

No evangelical Christian would vote for Juiliani

JHancock Wednesday, November 5th at 12:13AM EST (link)

He is a social liberal. Without Christians the GOP dies, never to be reborn (no pun intended). and don’t forget that on many issues like social programs, education, and health care-many Christians have, in fact, liberal leanings. They vote GOP precisely for reasons like abortion, marriage, and family issues. Against Juilianni as VP Obama would have turned even the South blue as Christians either voted for him based on health care, sat this one out, or looked for third parties. Evangelicals will keep coming back to the party as long as we promise judges that may reverse RVW. If we stop promising this then best of luck!

Conservatism works every time it's tried.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 12:14AM EST (link)

It just hasn’t been tried in a really long time. We had a chance at it this time, but went the moderate route instead.

Bad move.

Which is? -nt-

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 12:15AM EST (link)

Don't get me wrong, NT...

bs Wednesday, November 5th at 12:15AM EST (link)

I don’t disagree that maybe there is room for a significant purge. But it has to be done in a way that’s not vindictive or well-thought-out. The analogy still holds - in some cases, the manager IS the culprit (witness my St. Louis Rams, for example…).

After tonight’s butt-whipping, everyone just needs a little time-out to be introspective and figure out where the GOP should go in 2010. To me, that’s the big kahuna. Yeah, we need to focus on booting Barry out in 2012, but we need to make 2010 into another 1994 first.

Decorum is fo’ suckas

All of you that are down on Sarah Palin

Andy Smith Wednesday, November 5th at 12:16AM EST (link)

need to lay off. This race would have been a lot uglier had she not been on the ticket. Just imagine how bad this would have been if John McCain would have had no conservative base. She brought that to McCain. Also keep in mind that McCain was leading in the polls after he selected her. She gave him a chance. Another rich, old, white man would have given McCain a McGovern-like loss.

“Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it.”-Abraham Lincoln

1933 repeat

spc4dre Wednesday, November 5th at 12:17AM EST (link)

Get ready for “the new deal” part 3!T ime to hide my guns and pray for my 401k

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Get the rage dump out now, because we've got work to do

Finrod Wednesday, November 5th at 12:17AM EST (link)

I don’t really care if you blame McCain or Palin or Bush or whoever, the grim fact ahead of us for the next two years is that 41 GOP senators are all that will keep us from Obamacare or Associate Justice Hillary Clinton or the vicious return of the windfall profits tax or the return to the kind of progressive tax structure that would make Marx himself proud or any other number of horrors from the pit of deepest Democratic foolishness.

First, we must bolster our Senate minority. Let them know we support them and are working to return them to the majority, but in the meantime we need and want them to stand up for us and against the gluttonous excesses of the Democratic Party. Forget bipartisanship that is a thin veneer over giving the Democrats what they want: we have to stand up for our principles or else we have nothing, and our Senate minority needs to understand that.

Second, we need to encourage the GOP House. 2010 will be coming all too quickly and we need to encourage the GOP to force the Dems in red districts to choose between following Pelosi or staying electable in their districts. Overall the GOP minority in the House these past two years did a pretty good job of it, but they will need our encouragement to give as good as they get and to make us proud and looking forward to the day we can reclaim the right to be the majority party.

Past that, I haven’t thought ahead that far.


Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.

Based on what?

zuiko Wednesday, November 5th at 12:17AM EST (link)

Palin killed us in the swing states? Are you serious? How about McCain killing us in the swing states? Or Obama killing us in the swing states? Those are plausible scenarios. Palin doing us in is not.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

Who would you have suggest running?

nyscene911 Wednesday, November 5th at 12:17AM EST (link)

Huckabee?

He would’ve gotten laughed out of here tonight. There would NEVER have been any doubt?

Romney?

Not much of a chance either. Say what you will about the guy, he shares one trait with the last two democratic nominees before this year–just not likable.

Why not,

Wayne Wednesday, November 5th at 12:21AM EST (link)

that’s what the Obamunists have been since the R’s took over in 94?

“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF

That's sloganeering

I was previously Tlaloc, and I was banned last year. Wednesday, November 5th at 12:23AM EST (link)

In reality conservativism has sometimes worked and sometimes failed. It’s a philosophy, not a religion. It doesn’t demand absolute obedience, in fact the ideology pretty much precludes that kind of dogmatic approach.

Nope

MikeNC Wednesday, November 5th at 12:23AM EST (link)

…and feel free to ban me, but I didn’t realize non-Republicans couldn’t post here.

I commented because I love politics and I want to see Republicans regroup and re-energize themselves. I love political races, elections, and debating the issues with others who do not think like me. I think that Republicans need to figure out why Obama won, think about it, and then come up with their answer in 4 years. Saying that Obama offered nothing (but still managed to win) doesn’t help the overall goals of your party. Just like in real life, when something doesn’t go the way you had planned, you need to learn from it and move forward in order to be stronger in the future.

If you want to ban me for trying to post a cogent note about what I consider to be a misguided remark, then that is your right. This is, after all, your site.

  • Mike Rundle

2010 isn't happening.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 12:23AM EST (link)

2012 will be our first opportunity. Anything that goes wrong in the next two years will be blamed on Bush. That’s a fact.

The democrats now control two of the three branches of government. They will take care of the third branch over the next two years. And forget about that 60-seat thing, they won’t need it. The filibuster rule will be gone within 6 months.

All those empty seats that sat empty for the past two years will be filled with socialists. Probably 2-3 SCOTUS seats too.

I don’t see things turning back around again for at least 4 years, and if Obama wins re-election (which he probably will), it’ll more likely be 6-8 years. After that long, maybe the American people will be able to buy a clue (if we don’t already look like Venezuela by then).

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

dark before the dawn

Scott Wednesday, November 5th at 12:24AM EST (link)

What is done is done, but i do not believe that means there should not be some finger pointing.

First:I believe that we did not have a chance with Mccain as our standard bearer, he was and is a blue blood republican not a conservative and because of that we did not have a chance.

Second: In the last thirty years the only times the GOP has had large victories is when they had and supported conservative idea’s (80 reagan,94 contract with America, 2000 Bush) ask yourself what was the one thing that truly difined these victories.. Tax cuts and smaller goverment.) now granted Bush then went on to spend like a democrate but the first election was about tax cuts. This is our winning issue. Hell Obama used that tactic against us “95% of american’s will get a tax cut”.

Third: I can not beleive that our country wants to go into a western European model of socialism. As a party we did a miserable job of contrasting ourselves, it took a plumber in Ohio to even bring the topic up. Why did this happen?

  1. we have forgotten the faces of our fathers the founding father’s that is. we have forgotten they lessons they taught us. we no longer teach there words or promote their idea’s
  2. It is politically easier to spend taxpayers money, then to tell the american’s that we are out of money and need to tighten our belts, we have lacked the political courage to address the tough issues.
  3. we thought that we could bring Democrats to our side, and that we did not need our base

In short we forgot who we are, we can not win as the party that will spend less than the democrat’s and expand goverment less than the democracts. that is a recipe for being the loyal minority.

Untill we remember who we are we will not win again. Now is the time to find the conservative canidate in our states support them fund them,Blog for them. It is time to start over and we need to be the vocal supporters for conservatism.

On this dark night watch these vidio and get your spirit back so that tommorow we can fight again. That is what Reagan would do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xynQSSNlYuY&feature=related

Just remember it is darkest before the dawn, and now is the time to get off our butts and spead the conservative idea’s they are winning idea’s.

Clinging to by Bible and my Shotgun…

Socialism

spc4dre Wednesday, November 5th at 12:24AM EST (link)

A generation of socialism?We have had four of them.Since 1933 it has infested our country like a virus.The GOP has not had the votes,even when in the majority,to seriously roll it back.Now we are in danger of becoming a larger version of France,of maybe even Cuba.

The Winner...

OccamsRazor Wednesday, November 5th at 12:25AM EST (link)

…is the last one to get up.

Actually, I'd have been fine with Guiliani.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 12:26AM EST (link)

At least he’d have kicked some terrorist butts and fixed the economy. I could’ve lived with a moderate on the social issues for 4 years.

Fred of course was my first choice, but he didn’t want it.

Jindal is our future, I just hope things don’t go too far left that even he can’t bring it back.

We made a seismic shift as a nation today to the left. Those shifts aren’t easily repaired (spoken as a native Californian).

Indeed...

zroxx Wednesday, November 5th at 12:27AM EST (link)

What a golden opportunity was lost, yet again. McCain had a chance to distance himself from both Obama and 43 by opposing the bailout/”rescue” shenanigans. It was a chance for him to actively demonstrate some financial discipline, and leadership.

Instead of hammering away on Wright and Ayers, his campaign should have been hammering away on limited government, individual responsibility and liberty, returning power to the states (and people), completely ending the practice of earmarks, and lowering taxes hand-in-hand with decreasing federal expenditures. The contrast between himself and Obama regarding economic policy would have been clear, and moderates/independents eager for a move away from 43’s drunken spending would have had a more obvious choice.

It helps...

DRP Wednesday, November 5th at 12:27AM EST (link)

…to spell the man’s name correctly. Giuliani.

Center Left?!!?

JHancock Wednesday, November 5th at 12:28AM EST (link)

Well, fortunatly France and Britian voted further right last election–so maby there will be a country to jump ship to and raise my children right in when America becomes a big Godless, lawless, anything goes, clusterf**k orgy the left seems hellbent on turning it into. If the country truely is center left, then perhaps it is time to begin searching for another country to call home.

I’m being a bit melodramatic here…we are not center left yet, and there are still states and communities in this country I’d be proud to be part of—they are just not on the coasts, or in any large liberal urban center.

As for my home state of Colorado, with the exception of Colorado Springs, Elbert county and several other rural communities…I am ashamed. Do you think Georgia has room for a Colorado Snowbird (redbrested-not bluebilled!)

Small government.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 12:28AM EST (link)

Fiscal and personal responsibility. That’s conservatism. It’s not a religion, it’s sound government policy.

It could easily happen

zuiko Wednesday, November 5th at 12:29AM EST (link)

Remember 1994? It could happen again if he repeats Clinton’s mistakes. If he is smart he will lie low and do the moderate thing… if his party will let him.

Also, if I remember correctly, the deck is stacked against the Dems in 2010, the way it was stacked against the GOP this year, based on who is up for reelection in the Senate.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

401k is history.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 12:30AM EST (link)

I’ll have to start a new one somewhere overseas and just pre-pay the tax. Means I won’t have as much as I would’ve, but I’ll be damned if I’m going to rely on a government check for my retirement.

Sorry-can't spell when I'm mad

JHancock Wednesday, November 5th at 12:31AM EST (link)

or depressed

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Symbolism

UncommonRight Wednesday, November 5th at 12:31AM EST (link)

Obama is a symbol. He won on symbolism. Look back at all the actual symbols he created. The logos, the posters, the seals.

He himself became a symbol. Right now , tonight, he is a symbol that America is no longer racist.

tomorrow he will be a symbol of whatever people want to him to be.

We lost to that symbolism.

Running to the middle will be a disaster for the conservative movement. McCain’s huge mistake was constantly talking about reaching across the aisle. It is the domestic equivalent of meeting with enemies without preconditions.

We have to move to the right. Smaller Government, less spending and all that of course.

But we also need people who are inspiring, who can deliver a speech, who are symbols of our ideals and ideas.

Think of Reagan. His speeches were incredible. i was too young to appreciate them then. But they give me a great hope when I listen to them now. Obama is an stumbling mumbler when compared to Reagan.

Think of Lincoln. None of us heard him speak. But read his words. They are amazing descriptions of what conservatism is all about.

We have to reject this notion from the left that taking a stand will offend people. If our principles are offensive to the left, to our enemies, to the press and to the European masses, then we are probably doing something right.

I do not choose to be a common man. It is my right to be uncommon. I seek opportunity to develop whatever talents God gave me–not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed.

~Dean Alfange

Time To Keep Score

Count me in!

Rod_Patrick Wednesday, November 5th at 12:32AM EST (link)

But

Wayne Wednesday, November 5th at 12:34AM EST (link)

that was his position. Refute that if you can. He said he wants to bankrupt anyone that builds a coal-fired generation plant.

“Hell, these are Marines. Men like them held Guadalcanal, and took Iwo Jima, Baghdad ain’t s–t”. Maj. Gen. John F. Kelly, USMC, Deputy CG, First MEF

Exactly. <nt>

bs Wednesday, November 5th at 12:34AM EST (link)

Decorum is fo’ suckas

That's what I thought. No response.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 12:37AM EST (link)
 
 
 
 

51-48%

jonreagan Wednesday, November 5th at 12:37AM EST (link)

In the worst year imaginable for Republicans (unpopular incumbent, Wall Street meltdown, increasing job losses…), Obama won by 3 points, grant it with a wide electoral majority. This election margin should have been on the order of Mondale or McGovern losses…each guy carried one state. The takeaway is that Barack will have a very small reservoir of goodwill, and a short honeymoon.

Our party needs to be constructive in getting back to a pro-growth, limited government agenda. But we also need to be begin a relentless assault on Obama. One thing that threw Clinton off balance leading up to 1994 was the appointment of a special prosecutor soon after he took office to investigate Whitewater….the stuff that Obama has engaged in with Rezko makes Whitewater look pretty trivial by comparison.

After a decent interval (about a week), we should begin the push for a special prosecutor to investigate how the Obamas purchased their house in Chicago. This strategy worked in 1993, and the Congress was even more Democrat that year than it will be come January.

It's not Palin.

Rod_Patrick Wednesday, November 5th at 12:40AM EST (link)

Even at the start, this is called the Year of the Democrats.

People are tired of Republicans and President Bush. I don’t blame the presidnet for that. I blame the lies of the MSM. However, we may be at fault since we never really called the lies of the media before this election. That’s what happened since 2005. Add the fact that at the middle of this election, the financial market crashed and was blamed by the MSM to the republicans, a lie but many of us have accepted.

Old rule is still true: If you repeat the lies over and over again, somehow the listener will construe the same as “true”.

Now, instead of whining,…

Start Recollecting the Promises of Obama and make a Chronicle in the next 2 years whether Obama can keep them. Also list all those major blunders of Obama presidency (God forbid that the same blunder will put America in danger and no more 9/11 please!).

He did not run as a leftist

zuiko Wednesday, November 5th at 12:43AM EST (link)

Just watch his ads. They might as well have been run by a Republican. He hasn’t promised anything that was more hard-left than some of the stuff McCain was promising. Tax cuts for 95% of taxpayers? Is that hard-left?

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

 
 
 

Broader Picture

OccamsRazor Wednesday, November 5th at 12:44AM EST (link)

In my opinion, this was a slaughter. The D’s now have the reigns to run the country we all love so very much. It’s difficult to enjoy the future years of Schedenfruede against what we all know in our hearts is a destined Democratic disaster.

It’s difficult because it’s apparent Obama has a masterful spin machine and may make us all believe it’s OUR fault that we cannot put food on the table or provide a decent education for our children over the course of the next four years.

It’s apparent that he’s already looking for the next term, and that has GOT to be the weapon we use to leverage against him his entire 4 years. We will NEED to make sure the country knows why this coming callamity has occurred.

Do not let up on any failures. Follow the money. Make him as grey haired as possible.

This slaughter now gives the D’s a backdrop for all the country to see them and their policies, philosophies, theocracies (or lack-thereof) against.
Let’s use that backdrop as leverage to make CERTAIN we win 2010 and 2012.

No, I'm not banning you

Neil Stevens Wednesday, November 5th at 12:45AM EST (link)

But just stop. Just don’t post anymore on any intraparty threads. At all. You are not welcome in them.

There are plenty of topics that the site welcomes non-Republicans to post in, but I will ban you if you persist in jumping into discussions of our intraparty matters.

It is disruptive and when you do it without even pointing out that you’re not a Republican, it can be construed as dishonest.

That’s my ruling. If the Directors countermand me, so be it, but I will be enforcing it untils uch time that they tell me to stop.

Want to run for conservatives? Give.
There Is No Crisis

 
 

Bad Senate News In 2010!!!!

walter_hanson Wednesday, November 5th at 12:49AM EST (link)

Dear Folks:

I’ll be breaking my comments into a few things. Something to be alarmed about for 2010 especially since we’re a lot closers to 40 seats instead of 50 seats. We have another 19 seats up for election.

I suggest in 2009 we start giving money every paycheck of month to Republican candidates now.

Money was tight for me, but I wound up giving over a thousand dollars to political causes. I got over twenty senators donated to over twenty senate racees and thirty house races.

Imagine what thousands of us can do over two years. That’s how Obama built his large war chest.

Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN

If?

drothgery Wednesday, November 5th at 12:51AM EST (link)

Except for sexually harassing his staff, Obama’s nearly certain to repeat Clinton’s mistakes. If he doesn’t, he’ll have no liberal activist support in 2012.

The problem for the country (though a slight political advantage to the 2012 GOP nominee) is that Obama is unlikely to pivot into governing from the center ala post-1994 Clinton (under which we got NAFTA, welfare reform, and a capital gains tax cut); his instincts are far left, and it certainly seems to me at this point that there’s no one like Dick Morris in his circle of advisors to tell him when he’s running over the left edge of a cliff.

 
 

Karl Rove NAILS IT

scottbomb Wednesday, November 5th at 12:53AM EST (link)

To paraphrase:

‘The Republican party beat up on itself and the Democrats didn’t.’

The example he gave wes Claire McCaskill condemning Bush for the loss of jobs when in fact 7 mil. new jobs have been created under Bush.

My example would be this whole plan of “running away” from Pres. Bush. He won re-election during an unpopular war in ‘04. Bush hasn’t made all of us happy all of the time, but truth be told, he’s done a fine job as president.

http://www.HowObamaGotElected.com

“The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.” - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

Obama will not be running this country

Kyle-MI Wednesday, November 5th at 12:55AM EST (link)

Pelosi and Reid will. If he is smart he will not tack left that hard or fast, but there is no indication that Pelosi and Reid will let him moderate.

I agree with this

JOforLiberty Wednesday, November 5th at 12:55AM EST (link)

And a few others. I went to my local GOP office today to volunteer. I was utterly dismayed. 3-4 old ladies standing around doing NOTHING! Someone called in about “irregularities” in another county and all they could say is “thanks for letting us know”. I asked the old ladies if they were going to call the other county and their reply was “it’s a long distance call”. In frustration, I immediately called the other county on my cell and told them what I had heard. Their reply: “well … since those ppl from Chicago came down … we’re out of signs”. NOTHING. I don’t know if the office was like that in 2000 or 2004, but I was very dissappointed.

Now having shared that … we HAVE to return to conservatism! LESS government, LESS intrusive regulation, LESS taxes. We have to continually explain WHY FREEDOM matters. A strong defense, a fair tax policy that rewards the creation of jobs, not punish it.

One year, just one year, I’d love to see the bloated federal gov’t spend $1 less than the year before! Eliminate wasteful programs like the Dept of Education, NEA, Dept of Energy, Bureau of Indian Affairs, etc. WASTE, WASTE, WASTE! Once we’ve accomplished these goals, we can move to bigger ones, such as having individuals actually save for their own retirement!!! Repeal the death tax forever. Eliminate the intrusive Income tax!

If we point fingers, it should be at the power-drunk Rinos we elected/supported in 2000 & 2002. We have to have a different vision if we are to be the “alternate” party. Why would the voter choose “entitlement-lite” when they could have the real thing?!?! Spending reductions implies “hard” choices. However, we have to explain why that is good for individuals and society. We have to explain that the US is a generous nation and not b/c it HAS to through onerous taxation.

I thank God that, for tonight, I have an avenue to discuss and vent with like-minded individuals. I fear I will not have that right much longer.

Your paraphrased quote...

OccamsRazor Wednesday, November 5th at 12:58AM EST (link)

I cannot count how many times I read this mantra over on the KosKids site. They actually believe it. Ironical really.

It is impossible to say for certain

zuiko Wednesday, November 5th at 12:58AM EST (link)

I’m sure he knows Clinton’s mistakes well. His advisers will know Clinton’s mistakes even better. I’m sure he will try to avoid making the same mistakes… the only question is if he will actually manage to avoid them.

Until he actually starts to govern (which we have never seen, since he has never actually run anything before), we don’t have a clue what he will actually do with that power. His ads say one thing. His limited legislative record suggests something else. We’ll see what he does.

I am not optimistic about the chances of his plotting a moderate course, but it is possible.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

Too bad he never stood up to tell anyone. -nt-

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 12:59AM EST (link)

Anyone that thinks Obama will be like Clinton is just crazy.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 1:01AM EST (link)

He’ll make Clinton look right of Reagan.

He runs the show

zuiko Wednesday, November 5th at 1:03AM EST (link)

He has the mandate. Pelosi and Reid do not. He has so much political capital coming out of this he can do whatever he wants. Even if Pelosi and Reid try to force crazy left stuff down his throat (assuming they even have the power to get it done… without 60 votes that will be tough), he can veto. He will do that if he wants to play the moderate post-1994 Clinton game. I’d say the odds are against that but it is possible.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Palin helped make it close

walter_hanson Wednesday, November 5th at 1:05AM EST (link)

To Everybody who said that the Palin pick was a disaster this race today was 51 - 48% because of Palin.

She bought in excitement that Mccain didn’t. She bought in money that wasn’t coming in. She allowed us to seriously talk on the national campaign about drilling for oil and using energy.

Trust me this allegled country that has gone to the left when polled thinks over 70% we should drill. How on Earth do you get 22% of people who don’t support your president candidate to agree with that! because it’s right. We need to hammer that and Palin will help. Especially if she starts talking about how the Alaska pipeline has to be shutdown if production can’t stay above 300,000.

For those people who criticize Palin any pick would’ve been attacked by the media just like Palin was.

Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN

2010 not stacked against dems

I was previously Tlaloc, and I was banned last year. Wednesday, November 5th at 1:11AM EST (link)

in terms of the number of senators up for re-election:

The composition of the Senate going into the 2010 election will depend on the results of the 2008 elections. Of the seats up for election, 19 are held by Republicans and 15 by Democrats.

wiki

Granted that’s a lot better for the GOP than this year (23rep, 12 dem). 2012 is the year that’ll be really hard for dems (23 dem, 9 reps).

Exactly, I like it

Finrod Wednesday, November 5th at 1:12AM EST (link)

It’s time for the GOP minority in the House and Senate to do the vetting that the media refused to do. This is an excellent way to stay on offense against the incoming Obama administration.


Finrod’s First Law of Bandwidth:
A picture may be worth a thousand words, but it takes the bandwidth of ten thousand.

And if he does that we will clean up in 2010

zuiko Wednesday, November 5th at 1:13AM EST (link)

.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

Bingo. On Taxes, Obama ran on a fairly conservative position

JSobieski Wednesday, November 5th at 1:13AM EST (link)

The willingless of people to believe what he says is shame on us, but it is not evidence of running as a leftist.

It was only his off-the-cuff comments about “redistribution” that reveal Obama to not be what he tries to appear to be.


zroxx

JOforLiberty Wednesday, November 5th at 1:16AM EST (link)

couldn’t agree more!!! McCains vote FOR the bill did nothing to pass the bill and was the last opportunity to show he was not Pres Bush and was for smaller gov’t. He also would’ve provided something to separate him from the “one”. Horribly blown opportunity all around.

How can you run on “limited spending” and vote for that monstrosity? Also, he promised as POTUS he’d call them out … well that was the perfect opportunity.

Now … watch the news … this T-giving the economy will set records, ppl will be “better off”, things will be looking up. this is 92 all over again. i think BO will learn from that as well and not make clintons mistakes. i hope he makes others, though.

Agree with that! Without Palin

septembergurl Wednesday, November 5th at 1:16AM EST (link)

this would have been a rout in which McCain would win a handful of states at best. This was respectable given the steep climb McCain had.

Her ability to articulate issues in a conservative frame is just unparallelled. I suspect she is not going to be in Alaska for too long.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Moderates killed us

SeriousLaff Wednesday, November 5th at 1:16AM EST (link)

In the Senate, those acting like moderates and screwing over the base got creamed. Dole, and others (Coleman and Smithare in trouble because of this) would not have lost had they not “reached across the isle” on the bailout bill.

In two years we have some very nice targets. Senators in Washington, Oregon, and California are all up. The reseccion should be deep by then from the tax incrases. The tax cuts (welfare checks) will be too small and the Senate will have just attempted an amnesty bill.

Should be a good year. Too bad we will have had to gone through hell to get there.

Bush never stood up for himself, which ended up crippling the party

JSobieski Wednesday, November 5th at 1:16AM EST (link)

The lesson here is that a desire to get along with the other side through acquiesence to their attacks will not result in anything close to positive.


Like this time, right?

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 1:18AM EST (link)

You know, because people are already sick of how Congress ran the country for the past 2 years.

That 8% approval rating really costs them a lot of seats, didn’t it.

I'll probably get banned for this...

Jeremy_HB Wednesday, November 5th at 1:22AM EST (link)

I wish I could say something good about your party this election. However, the only thing I can say is that your candidate, McCain, delivered an awesome concession speech. Dare I say had he taken this tone throughout the campaign, I might have found it harder to vote for Obama and against him.

However, the boos from his supporters at his rally really showed the lack of class some of you guys can have. I also would love to contrast that with the cheers Obama’s supporters gave him when he mentioned McCain.

Mr. Stevens, the original poster didn’t claim he was Republican. And yes, he is right. The country IS currently center-left. What he didn’t say (and may not agree with) is that eventually, yes, the country WILL move back to center-right. If you guys want to be ready to capitalize on that, then you really need to examine the loss of today rationally and analytically.

I have lurked on this site and Free Republic since 2006, and consider you a flawed but alternate source of information. I also consider your site and Free Republic a good view into the heart of conservative posters. And what I’ve seen can only be described as ugly.

Divisiveness over abortion and gay marriage. No tolerance for dissent and calling those who dissent traitors and un-American. Bandying terms such as Commie/Terrorist lover and Socialist. I think the 2008 election was a referendum on these tactics. At least here in Colorado, we rejected those handily. I, a traditional independent who voted for a Libertarian judge, a Republican secretary of Treasury, a Democratic Secretary of State, and a Democratic Governer, ended up this election voting for a straight Democratic ticket. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I didn’t buy your Socialist tag on Obama. I didn’t buy your claims that he will trash the country. And looking back on the election, I didn’t find anything about McCain/Palin that I liked.

How you guys react to this will go a long way to revealing what kind of lesson you’ll take away from this. The Democrats need a loyal opposition party who respects them while disagreeing with them on policy and standing up for their ideals. It’s a fine line between disagreeing with the opponents stance and disrespecting the opponent. Calls to ‘take your money out of the system if Obama is elected’, to say nothing of hanging an effigy of him from your tree with a Star of David painted on his head and screaming ‘Kill him’ and ‘terrorist’ at political events cross that line and then some.

In 2010 and 2012, you’ll have a chance to come back and present your case to me. If I see more of the same, then this independent will vote Democratic and Green and Libertarian again, but Republicans will be untouchables as long as they continue to try to forcefeed me morality legislation and divisive politics. However, if I see Republicans moving back into government advocating small government and treating even those who disagree with them with respect, then just maybe I will give your guys a chance.

Now, to see how you guys react to this.
*

Right

OccamsRazor Wednesday, November 5th at 1:25AM EST (link)

‘IMPEACH NOW! IMPEACH NOW!’

Get people used to hearing the chant.

:)

Okay, but I think if you believe he won

septembergurl Wednesday, November 5th at 1:26AM EST (link)

as some kind of stealth candidate, I don’t agree. I think he won because he said he would give people health care, housing, tuition, etc. and pay for it by taxing business. Yes, he convinced people someone else was going to pay for it, but I don’t see anything conservatie about playing the class warfare card.

h yes, taxing business and getting out of Iraq and cutting the military. That’s not conservative either is it?

Congress is not the same as POTUS

zuiko Wednesday, November 5th at 1:30AM EST (link)

It isn’t even in the ballpark. This is still under Bush’s watch. Bush is getting blame for anything that happens, not Congress.

People do not decide who they are going to vote for as President based on how good of a job they think Pelosi is doing. Most Americans couldn’t even tell you who she is and what she does, much less how good of a job she is doing.

Congress is an entity that people love to hate in general but they always seem to like their own guy (assuming they even know who their own guy is). Congressional approval ratings are about as meaningless as you can get.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

Palin hurts

vagabondvet Wednesday, November 5th at 1:30AM EST (link)

Her inability to articulate even the periodicals she reads to be informed is hardly an asset to any party.

Yea thanks

zuiko Wednesday, November 5th at 1:36AM EST (link)

Maybe you can update your Democrat talking points, because it looks like you are still using last month’s copy.

Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

Get lost.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 1:36AM EST (link)

I will not stand for people continuing to attack our brightest star.

NOT TODAY.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I beg to differ

jagrmeister Wednesday, November 5th at 1:40AM EST (link)

This is Exactly the time for finger-pointing, brass knuckles, and purging the hell out of people. It is a cop-out to say Obama won on “style”; every election has its element of intangibles, but we can’t lose sight of the fact that this election, our message was rejected by voters. The GOP means what these days? A humble but forceful world presence or clumsy foreign policy adventurism combined with nation building? Do we stand for holding the line on spending and letting people keep their hard earned income, or raising the size of government and handing our future generations trillions in debt?

I believe we must start with foreign policy. If we continue down the path Bush has started us on: a war with the wider Middle East, an Israel-first policy, and the unwillingness to use other statecraft to achieve our objectives in the region - we will be in the wildnerness for a while to come, and will deserve to be, in my view.

Ctrl-C?

vagabondvet Wednesday, November 5th at 1:48AM EST (link)

Did you just copy-paste that from the last time you knee-jerk responded to something you didn’t agree with, or is that legitimately how you feel? Gov. Palin is great for the state of Alaska, but she’s not ready for primetime if she can’t engage the press.

I'm not sure who you are udtiger, but

c17wife Wednesday, November 5th at 1:49AM EST (link)

I’d say you hit all the ppoints just about right.

My children will not live in a great America. They will only have the shell of a once great nation.

Duty is ours, outcomes belong to God.~Mike Pence

What I've wanted to say, but couldn't put to words.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 1:55AM EST (link)

She did great with the press.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 1:56AM EST (link)

When the handlers let her.

Lay off. This isn’t the day to do this.

Agreed

finaljeopardy Wednesday, November 5th at 2:09AM EST (link)

Another term in office. She can take on a leadership role in the National Governor’s Association. She has name recognition now , proven fundraising ability and wide appeal. I think she would be a great candidate in four years.

Thank you

finaljeopardy Wednesday, November 5th at 2:14AM EST (link)

For expressing everything I felt inside as I watched the crowd in Chicago and the election being called for Obama. None of these fools even looked so excited. It was Mile High Stadium all over again. And I’m afraid of what Dems can do over four years with no one to check them.

Class?

finaljeopardy Wednesday, November 5th at 2:22AM EST (link)

I thought it was really classy of Obama to flip off both Hillary and McCain. As a woman, I am glad the sexism of Obama’s campaign and the Democratic party and the media will now be cemented in our culture for likely a decade. Stealing yard signs, misrepresenting campaign funds, ACORN, accusations of racism and the promise that the next campaign will see multi-billion dollar candidates, so any reform and real change are unlikely.

That’s why I was booing in my heart a little.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

What Are We Going To About The Black Problem

walter_hanson Wednesday, November 5th at 2:22AM EST (link)

Folks:

Please read this whole post before you think I’m trying to be racist. I’m just trying to make a point about something that I heard on Fox tonight and a major problem we have to solve especially to try to win the presidency in 2012.

In 2004 John Kerry got 88% of the black vote when it was 11% of the voting group.

In 2008 Obama got 95% of the black vote when it was 13% of the voting group.

Do the math.

Kerry’s black vote was 9.68% of the vote. Bush with eleven got 1.21% or a net loss of 8.47% percent of the vote.

In 2008 Obama got 12.35% of the vote. Mccain got .52% or a net loss of 11.83% of the vote.

that is a net change of 3.36% of the vote. Doesn’t that sound like the difference in the national vote for Mccain and Obama.

Furthermore in Virginia, in North Carolina, in Florida, in Indiana, in Ohio, a 3.36% swing in the vote was huge!

So I know we have been trying to address how to get blacks to vote Republican for years, but know it’s a crisis point.

So does anybody have any good thoughts.

Walter Hanson

I love Sarah Palin

finaljeopardy Wednesday, November 5th at 2:26AM EST (link)

All the haters can go join the Dems.

You don't like morality legislated?

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 2:28AM EST (link)

So you’re ok with theft & murder, right?

You’re a joke. You only want YOUR morality legislated, not someone else’s.

Begone, troll.

Center left?

finaljeopardy Wednesday, November 5th at 2:29AM EST (link)

Three days ago, your candidate was telling voters he would put taxes back to Reagan levels. He lied. He has lied repeatedly about his plans, and if he implements what we conservatives see as his real agenda, he will likely be a one-term President.

Here is a suggestion...

drohan00 Wednesday, November 5th at 2:36AM EST (link)

Why don’t we sit back and give them just enough rope to hang themselves? Republicans got beat because the Democrats used the whole anti-Bush drumbeat long enough to make it stick. Basically, we need to have Republican senators and congressmen restating on national media that the Democrats run the government. I think the national economic problem will be great enough that 2010 will proffer possibilities for the GOP, so we just need to point out all their problems.

Remember this: There were a lot of people in 1976 who voted for Jimmy Carter. My dad was one of those people. After living through the height of the last real weak American presidency, and 14% inflation, 21% interest rates, and 10+% unemployment, my dad then has never voted for another Democrat in his life. We just need to keep that in mind. If Obama does implement his tax policy to its fullest, then we as a nation will be ready for Reagan. America was not ready for Reagan in 1976, but if Obama is mediocre, and his policies are truly bad, the country will react with scorn and anger. Bernanke can be our savior here as well. These young new voters in this country are in for a nasty surprise: they will have to live with the old maxim ‘Be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it!’

I think we need to regroup and rebuild as a party. However, we need to understand that we need leaders. I personally believe that Bobby Jindal needs a bit more seasoning before we put him in the spotlight. He needs two successful terms as Governor of LA before we crown him. I think he is the savior of the party, and of modern forward thinking conservatism, but we need to understand that Reagan was through with two successful terms as governor and a complete private citizen when he ran for president. The drive-bys could not attack his administrative credentials because he had done it. LA Republicans need to help Jindal govern effectively, and then he will have true accomplishments to run on.

Republicans should take heart that the loss was not worse than it was. We need to contact our voters and include them in our plans for 2010. There is no reason why the GOP cannot make a comeback in response to the Democratic nightmare that has just been unleashed. We further need to counteract that nightmare by offering actual policy alternatives. Reagan won by offering a positive. McCain offered only negative reasons to oppose Obama. We need to regroup, but we are in striking distance, and I can believe that after two years of Obama, America will once again turn to the Grand Old Party for leadership.

The middle class theme

finaljeopardy Wednesday, November 5th at 2:37AM EST (link)

Was in his first picture book as a toddler with pages thick enough to chew on and fuzzy, raised farm animals.

“And the cow said moo!”

“And the lib said TAX IT!”

And then it got all Orwellian from there, and the animals started begrudging one another’s success.

Bailout was awful

finaljeopardy Wednesday, November 5th at 2:42AM EST (link)

I wish McCain had stood with the House Republicans, because I thought they were magnificent.

I agree.

Rod_Patrick Wednesday, November 5th at 2:44AM EST (link)

It’s really a coward thing to allow the libs and the MSM attack him (and his republican brand) without fighting back. That’s how got his very low popularity rating.

How could ACORN, CODEPINK MoveON, AFL-CIO, etc. have spread all over the red states under the President’s watch?

It’s really unbelievable. I think now that the libs and dems are correct in branding him as “lame” just for that matter.

But I have truly supported Pres. Bush in his Iraq War and his fight against terrorism. My regret is that he could have done more in his 8 years in the WH.

And Dodd would be an easy takedown as well

jonreagan Wednesday, November 5th at 2:44AM EST (link)

When the Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee accepts “goodies” from Countrywide Bank, it’s the biggest conflict of interest since….well, probably since Dodd’s father was censured by the Senate back in the 60’s. That’s quite a coincidence, given that only 9 Senators have been censured in U.S. Senate History…guess an apple doesn’t fall very far from the tree.

Senate Rules prohibit the acceptance of gifts over $100, but the most eggregious offense here is conflict of interest. And most of the other targets in the Countrywide mess are Dems as well, like Kent Conrad. Given people’s anger against the “big shots” in the subprime mess, it’s time to make an example of someone. And what could be more fun than destroying a blowhard like Chris Dodd.

I hope Obama does just as well

finaljeopardy Wednesday, November 5th at 2:45AM EST (link)

Seriously

finaljeopardy Wednesday, November 5th at 2:50AM EST (link)

“Knee jerk response” is straight out of your Democratic manual. You always accuse people of hyper-sensitivity, when your party makes Madame Bovary look like George Patton. Of course, you always accuse your opposition of doing what you’re doing more of. Probably that Saul Alinsky mumbo jumbo. Crazy fascists.

True enough, but a middle class tax cut is the most popular conservative position that there is

JSobieski Wednesday, November 5th at 2:58AM EST (link)

and Obama had the sense to wrap himself in that blanket as tight as he could.

Would that Republicans did similarly.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Welcome to the era of "Redistributive Justice"

JLenardDetroit Wednesday, November 5th at 2:58AM EST (link)

Let us Pray our Nation survives it.

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+ 0bama Lies & your Bank acct will Die! (4/15 Truthers)
+ Heil “O” Hell No Obamao is NOT MY PRESIDENT! “No U won’t”
+ I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
The first Liberal was Satan” - a Rush caller (other Quotes)

Yeah, the Obama middle-class tax cut.

NightTwister Wednesday, November 5th at 3:05AM EST (link)

For those making between $30K and $50K per year.

THAT middle class.

Funny!

JHancock Friday, January 23rd at 10:33PM EST (link)

What Obama calls middle class I call the working poor. Those poor enough to be hurting, but not so poor that they can’t take care of themselves. If 30K is middle class then what is lower class??!!

Obama definition of poor=People who are helpless to do anything for themselves and don’t work at all!

My definition of poor=people who work hard to get by. AKA-30-50K

My definition of socially pathalogic=those who don’t work at all, but do breed, use public resources, medical care, and government handouts-essentially the Obama poor

 
 
 

We will be hearing from Gov. Palin again, trust me.

jonreagan Wednesday, November 5th at 3:17AM EST (link)

Funny, when a campaign is ahead in the polls, all of the other perceived “sins” go away. When Sept.15th hit–and everything Republican became radioactive–we suddenly heard that the woman who energized our convention and base was now suddenly a “drag” on the ticket. I believe the word for this phenomenon is scapegoating.

1)Gov.Palin represented an outreach to Reagan Democrats and working class folks. She engaged and excited these voters, articulating the issues of regular middle class Americans. We captured a good many tonight, against incredibly stiff headwinds. Given the current economic landscape, let’s be careful not to label a 52-47% loss as some kind of catastrophic, realigning election. Obama should have won this thing by +15 points.

2) This freshman governor’s resume is as full as freshman Senator Obama’s is empty. In the year of the crude oil shock, she was a great choice for VP given her expertise in energy exploration and production. Obama isn’t even mildly conversant in these kinds of topics, given the Democrats’ fear of producing our own energy.

3) Finally, Sarah Palin has served notice on the Democrats that women voters are not some monolith. Liberals reagard conservative women as traitors, conservative blacks as Uncle Toms, and conservative gays as “pathetic” and “self-loathing.” Liberals treat women like some large herd of sheep, guided by sheepherder Nancy Pelosi. Facts are, there are security Moms, hockey Moms, single working mothers, and so on….many are conservative Republicans and/or Independents. And many are pro-life folks, so get over it, Pelosi. Gov. Palin made this case very effectively, driving a wedge between the Democrat party and a group they presume to “own”.

And beyond all of this, Sarah Palin endured the creepiest attacks from the left (feminists aren’t for women; they’re for LIBERAL women!) with grace, humor, and sheer guts. She served our party–and this campaign–like a true champ, and I hope we will see her again.

The point remains---Obama hid who he was

JSobieski Wednesday, November 5th at 3:24AM EST (link)

The importance of that fact cannot be overemphasized.

Obama had to hide who he was to get elected.

If anyone in the debates had ever asked Obama why he never proposed a tax cut in all of his years in government, the balloon would have popped.

But nobody asked.


Switch it around

tcgeol Wednesday, November 5th at 3:30AM EST (link)

and you’ll have my enthusiastic support

Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger

So let me get this straight ...

tcgeol Wednesday, November 5th at 4:48AM EST (link)

we need to get back to true conservative values by adopting popular left-wing views and running moderate candidates. Am I following correctly?

Those true conservative values of environmental fanaticism, socialistic health care, and government-run business will save the day for the Right.

That makes perfect sense. Thank you so much, now I understand!

Just your typical bitter gun- and God-clinger

People are trying to blame Palin for the loss

JSobieski Wednesday, November 5th at 5:26AM EST (link)

which is precisely why a little bit of intramural butt-kicking is ok for a couple of weeks.

We need to get our team in shape ready to play.

As we found out today—we are the political version of the Detroit Lions. Sometimes close sometimes not, but not a lot of positives today.


My family loves Sarah Palin. WAPO and the rest of MSM will continue their lies agaisnt her to further destroy her.

Rod_Patrick Wednesday, November 5th at 6:08AM EST (link)

If no one will protect her now, she will be the regular object of derision of the MSM.

Also, expect something will crop up from MSM against Jindall and Cantor. They are the ones that the MSM will be targeting in the next 4 years.

 
 
 
 
 
 

As much as I would like it for you to be right Neil...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 7:37AM EST (link)

It won’t happen…I don’t have any inside info but it’s pretty obvious to me that a deal was made at CPAC that Romney would be the establishment candidate this year if he’d step aside. The Establishment and Romney’s Surrogates have already started the sniping war a couple weeks ago by trashing Palin.

It’s obvious they will need to destry her to make way for Romney 2012….and I for one am not laying down for it!

Oh…and lest we forget…the Maverick is back in the Senate ready to work his “Bipartisan” magic and “Reaching across the isle” voodoo!

It’s time to decide what we stand for if anything and stick to it. The days of putting partisanship aside to appeal to moderates and independents must end. It’s time for the time honored and tested Conservative principles that we’ve abandoned since 2004 to take center stage and those that want to expand the tent at the expense of those principles need to step aside. They’ve driven the bus since 2004 and they put us in the ditch…we’ll take it from here thank you very much!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
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SarahPAC

Nice try nyscene...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 7:45AM EST (link)

Reagan one by standing for something…Bushes 1 # two won by standing for something…Ford LOST by appealing to the middle. Dole lost by appealing to the middle. Bush #1 lost reelection by appealing to the middle. Bush two is as Responsible as McCain in this election by abandoning the conservatism that won him two terms…and McCain? Obama won with 349 electoral college votes and counting….expand the base by appealing to moderates and independents may rosy red ass!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
Toomey US Senate

SarahPAC

Romney is a non-starter

kyle8 Wednesday, November 5th at 7:49AM EST (link)

anyone who did as poorly as he did no the primaries is not going to suddenly catch fire. And I pretty much will not support ANYONE the beltway Republicans support, just out of spite.

“Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty”
Kyle

Lay off Palin...you can blame he because she bought a ticket on the Titanic

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 7:54AM EST (link)

She is our future…and the establishment must not be alowed to tear her down…the press had their shot at her and I can guarantee you the Ivy League Blue Bloods in the Republican Party are about to focus all their guns at her!

I for one will not stand for it!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
Senate Conservatives Fund
House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
Toomey US Senate

SarahPAC

5*5*5*5*5*5

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 7:59AM EST (link)

NT

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
Senate Conservatives Fund
House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
Toomey US Senate

SarahPAC

She was a breath of fresh air and a joy to behold.

QueenOfCups Wednesday, November 5th at 8:01AM EST (link)

I don’t want to read criticism of her. I am grateful McCain introduced her to the nation.

Are you out of your mind?

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 8:17AM EST (link)

What did die-hard evangelicals and far-right conservatives control the reigns of the Republican party have to do with this election?

We were ignored and ridiculed by people like you…we didn’t have a dog in this fight truth be told but I can guarantee you this…we turned out like we always do…We were out there knocking on doors and doing voter registration drives…You didn’t see our leaders bolting to the Obama camp like Hagel, Powell, Weld, and the rest of them did…

What a steaming load of crap!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
Senate Conservatives Fund
House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
Toomey US Senate

SarahPAC

Yeah...she did nothing...McCain drew all those crowds in the tens of thousands...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 8:20AM EST (link)

he was winning all by himself before she joined the ticket…

Palin did nothing but bring a reluctant base into the fold…but who needs them anyway…right?

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
Senate Conservatives Fund
House Conservatives Fund
Michael Williams for Senate
Marco 2010
Toomey US Senate

SarahPAC

When has it been tried for crying out loud...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 8:26AM EST (link)

Politicians win elections running as conservatives…and govern as liberals once in office…proof? check out the articles about Ram Emanuel right after the 2004 election about his new strategy to run socially conservative Dems in Red States…then look at the results in 2006 and 2008!

But you’re right…Conservatism is a losing strategy…we’re all children of the one now!

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Neil...we're agry at Republicans because of the campaign they ran

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 8:31AM EST (link)

They started out ignoring us and went down to defeat ignoring us…The decided to be Obama light and now we’ve got the real thing. I despise Democrats because of what they stand for…but I despise those who want to compromise with them even more.

This election was called in march when “The Maverick” was nominated over the objection of 2/3s od this Party…the rest has just been going through the motions leading up to the inevitable.

BTW…A challenge to all here…can anyone here name the central theme of the McCain Campaign beyond, “I supported the surge”?

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That's a Joke...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 8:33AM EST (link)

nt

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Look to the first Contract

SteveLA Wednesday, November 5th at 8:36AM EST (link)

The first contract with America, circa 1995 is my default version of what conservatism stands for. All good ideas, and a pretty good starting point for rebuilding this party.

Not “New Tone” aka Bush, or “Smash Mouth” aka Tom Delay, nope just real sensible middle class values and ideas.

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Competency over ideological purity

Well at least the truth is out from the Romneybots...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 8:37AM EST (link)

According to your reasonong McCain Romney would be more acceptable than the Conservative Palin because he’s “Moderate”…

Thank you for your honesty at last!

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Well...now here come the excuses and the theorising why the appeal to Moderates and Indies didn't work...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 8:41AM EST (link)

Never mind the FACT that it’s failed every single time it’s bee tried since 1978.

Well…it was Palin…or Bush…or the economic situation…or those damned Christians that refuse to sit down and shut up…

HMM

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That arguement won't work regretably...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 8:48AM EST (link)

I’m no McCain fan…everyone knows that…and even if I were…attacking Obama for his support had no chance of going anywhere because McCain is squarely on record supporting the same legislation…he just wasn’t dumb enough to state the true goals of Cap & Trade in public!

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bs...THEY STARTED OUT THIS ELECTION TELLING US HOW IMPOSSIBLE IT WOULD BE FOR US TO WIN

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 8:57AM EST (link)

Tom Cole, and John Ensign should be hung from the nearest tree by their thumbs…Ditto Mike Murphy and all the limp noodle McCain people that went on the sunday programs week after week talking about how Republicans were destined to lose this election from the beginning!

They sat on their collective asses and used the conventional wisdom that this was a losing year for Republicans as a crutch and an excuse for their utter lack of competence and fire in the belly.

My message to the leadership of this party is this…we put you where you are to lead…not tell us what losers we all are…if you can’t lead…then get the hell out of the way and make room for someone who will…or we will remove you!

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Right, wrong and common sense aren't dead

seattle_ite Wednesday, November 5th at 8:58AM EST (link)

but the choices made since ‘88 have them in a coma. Conservatism is not a religion; I’ll spot you that point. But the ideals of conservatism aren’t just based on faith, but proven principles. Decadence and indolence has caused many great societies to collapse in upon themselves. That, my friend, is historical fact, as far back as you want to go.

Raising taxes in a struggling economy? Check; Carter did that, and threw away his second term.

Appeasing agressors? Check; too many examples to cite.

Relaxing common sense moral standards? Been done before, and caused problems throughout the eons.

Don’t blame conservatism for the failings of the party. Moral relativism is why we are in this mess.

the only way to appeal to moderates and win

kyle8 Wednesday, November 5th at 9:02AM EST (link)

is the way I said in a previous post. We have to settle on a few, just a handful of important issues and then support anyone who will agree to either support those issues or at least not work to defeat them.

I have no problem with niche republicans, whether they be moderate-right, libertarian-right, or foreign policy wonks.

But I have a big problem with people like Lindsy Graham and other working actively AGAINST the basic core interests of the party. That kind of moderate will no longer fly.

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Things will change much fast Knoight...The Dems will over reach...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 9:03AM EST (link)

Look at 1992 to 1994 as examples…Clinton won by about the same margins in 1992 and expanded Democrat’s control of both houses…1994 was a landslide referendum on his first two years.

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The look on Sarah & Todds face said it all..

izoneguy Wednesday, November 5th at 9:08AM EST (link)

..last night when McCain was bowing before the one. I am sure that Palin & McCain had a few words before they came on stage. I am sure Todd had to hold Sarah back from kicking McCain in his ACORN’s. I am pretty sure Todd Palin will run for Congress and Sarah will try for the Senate. This is a family to watch. I at least take the comfort that Obama lost Texas by almost one million votes.

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That's why we need a purge of leadership....

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 9:09AM EST (link)

Did you see one Republican ad making hay out of a Democrat Senate and House with historically low approval ratings???

McCain made a half hearted stab at it for two days last week trying to convince everyone we needed divided government…but that’s all I saw

This is why we need a purge of the leadership at the RNC, NRCC, and NRSC…we need new blood and people with the fire in the belly to take the fight to the enemy!

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Won't be much forcing.

seattle_ite Wednesday, November 5th at 9:15AM EST (link)

I’m hoping Reid and Pelosi will panic, and try to rein in Obama.

Amen brother...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 9:15AM EST (link)

nt

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CPAC knew on February 8-9 that it would come down to McCain/Romney like that?

Neil Stevens Wednesday, November 5th at 9:17AM EST (link)

Wow, who are their soothsayers?

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this 60 votes crap is annoying...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 9:20AM EST (link)

Republicans won’t even try to filibuster most of their agenda…and if they do…we’ve got the original gang of 16 back in place minus Warner to be replaced by some other squish.

All I can say is…keep the fax lines humming and the emails flying bacause we will need to whip these guys mercilessly to get a fight out of them!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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Of Course

vagabondvet Wednesday, November 5th at 9:20AM EST (link)

Name calling and assigning possession to me makes me a Democrat, right? Two party politics is killing this country by making everyone think they have to be a red person or a blue person, somehow neglecting the fact that in a country of 300,000,000 people there could somehow be more than two opinions on any given subject. My original response to this topic, on how I felt that Gov. Palin’s inarticulate speaking during media events, has turned into me being some type of pinko commie, rather than actually trying to discuss the issue. You completely ignored the original argument by name dropping all sorts of vague references to dead people and literary characters. Good work.

And how did the puppetmasters stop Huck?

Neil Stevens Wednesday, November 5th at 9:24AM EST (link)

Heh.

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I don't want to believe this and will fight like hell to prove it wrong...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 9:27AM EST (link)

but I fear you are correct

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I agree ACEINTX. ATTACK ON PALIN WILL BE NONSTOP as long as she is alive.

Rod_Patrick Wednesday, November 5th at 9:28AM EST (link)

In fact, that commentary in WAPO about the future of Palin is a “silent code” to the MSM that the “Attack On Palin” and “Blaming McCain’s loss to Palin” IS STILL IN THE GO.

That’s what the MSM and the Democrats did to Reagan after his loss in a primaries more than 2 decades ago.

I agree Ace, there will be no fillibusters

kyle8 Wednesday, November 5th at 9:34AM EST (link)

there are at least five Republicans who are really democrats so they already have 60+

There is NOTHING to slow them down, (certainly not the fourth estate, HAH!) and Obama promised to hit the ground running. Let there be no mistake, we will have pure, pure, pure leftism. None of this Clinton-lite stuff. The 200 proof real thing.

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One problem on the "Conservative Voice" front...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 9:42AM EST (link)

We have no credibility any more as a result of the crowd that drove this bus into the ditch…We haven’t governed as Fiscal Conservatives…We haven’t governed as limited government conservatives…we haven’t fought for socially conservative justices to the federal bench…the dems have blocked them all for 4 to eight years…just watch Spectre and the rest gab their ankles to help the Dems rush his socialist justices through to show how bipartisan they can be…

Is it time to be understanding…and avoid the butt kicking our leadership deserves?

I say not just NO but HELL NO!

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5*5*5*5*5

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 9:54AM EST (link)

nt

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Better yet...what message was rejected? I wasn't aware we had won beyond, "I supported the surge"...and "I'm a maverick"!

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 10:02AM EST (link)

nt

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I said it was emperical and had no inside knowledge...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 10:12AM EST (link)

he backed out so suddenly that it just seemed to me that a deal was made…I’ll be the first to say I could be wrong as a result because I’m basing the idea on observation and not inside information.

That being said…Romney will be the establishment pick…I’m convinced of it…and what I said about Romney Surrogates throwing bombs at Palin last week is backed up with reporting form McCaslin and others.

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
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Seriously though, Ace, I'll give you a hint

Neil Stevens Wednesday, November 5th at 10:14AM EST (link)

If CPAC were to have annointed anyone who was there this year, it would have been Fred Thompson, not Mitt Romney.

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Huck stopped himself...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 10:17AM EST (link)

and as for Puppet Masters…I said establishment…tea and crumpet crowd…Campaign and caviar crowd…whatever you want to call them.

You know, George Will, Peggy Noonan, Cathlene Parker, David Brooks and the rest of the clowns that somehow slipped off and simultaneously published hit pieces on Palin without communicating with each other.

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I didn't say CPAC cut the deal...I said it was cut AT CPAC

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 10:18AM EST (link)

Big difference…

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This is they way I figure it went down...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 10:33AM EST (link)

The McCain people and the Party apparatus they represent told Romney to bow out now so we can get an early start on the general election campaign, (As I remember it they wasted that extra time but that was the talk back then from RS and I’m sure the rest of the party leadership). They promise was made that they would throw their support behind him in 2012 just like they told McCain in 2000 he’d be the guy…It’s no secret that the Republican Party is a top down system of appointing nominees…Reagan was a loan exception.

BTW…I don’t remember if it was you…or someone else that scoffed at me during the primaries when I suggested the Party controls the primary process scheduling blue states first during the primaries…well…the nominating process for 2012 was set by a committee at the nominating committee and they virtually guaranteed another primary schedule like this last one with all the big blue states front loaded into a compressed primary schedule. so the drama continues in 2012.

so…the plotting and scheming continues

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Imagine that Steve...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 10:57AM EST (link)

We’ve agreed twice now in less than two weeks…is that some kind of record?

:>)

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I agree wholeheartedly about the Contract being the defining document and it should be looked to going forward...

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 10:58AM EST (link)

nt

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Dead on and Amen....Enough of the Radical Moderates

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 11:20AM EST (link)

who actively undermine the party!

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What...and be disrespectful???

AceInTX Wednesday, November 5th at 11:30AM EST (link)

Your dead on right Jsob…It’s time to smack the next jerk that says “respectful Campaign”, “New tone”, “Kinder, Gentler” or Compassionate Conservative or anything else like these phrases the second they leave their lips!

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McCain may not be popular...

SpL Wednesday, November 5th at 3:54PM EST (link)

But I think he was the right person for this campaign cycle. He came out with his dignity as far as I’m concerned. For him this was a one-time shot so now we move on. I am glad he didn’t do something like give up his Senate seat.

We all know what the term “bipartisan” means in the hallowed halls of our democrat friends. It may likely sound eerily like Abu Graib as Republicans from all over Washington become “educated” in what all they will do, say, testify to, and vote for.

It’s not going to be a fun two years and I’m sure we’ll see resignations from those who would more likely prefer to show up to work at a luxury suite rather than submit to the stocks and public humiliation. On the other hand this will be an enjoyable time as Dems and their friends in the media push lots of good stuff onto our country and enjoy the torture sessions.

So, here we are. Where we go is determined only partially of the “who” of the Republican party. Circumstances and likely the discomfort of Republicans, moderates, and other hard-working Americans will have more impact on giving the Republicans another chance.

At least here in Colorado

JHancock Friday, November 7th at 12:42AM EST (link)

don’t bring Colorado into this. I’m from Colorado an I’m ashamed of more than 1/2 of my state! As far as divisiveness on abortion-it’s a polarizing topic. Either a fetus is a valuable human life and abortion is wrong, or it is tissue, and in that case it’s the surgical equivalent of blowing your nose. Except for the rare instances of abortion to save the life of the mother–analogous to separating conjoined twins to save one rather than let both die-I don’t see much room for middle ground on this topic or on marriage for that matter. There is right and wrong, and kinda sorta maybe gray area wrong still ain’t right!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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